Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support - UPDATED

2007-05-16 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Guys
I am going to receive 100% clarification on this matter!
 
What is absolutely certain is the link / pdf may NOT be a true
representation of the current life cycle of 5.1 - remember, this PDF refers
to 6.0 only.
 
No mention of 6.5!
 
Also, PDF was created 15th Sep 05!
 
Will provide the list with more details later today.
 
 

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
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-Original Message-
From: Steven L. Sesar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 May 2007 22:09
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: smpt; Scott Jacobson; WEAVER, Simon (external); Paul Keating;
VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support


There's no way that 10/2007 makes sense for EOL of 5.1. Assuming, and this
is a big assumption, given Veritas'/Symantec's history regarding making
their release dates with NBU, that 6.5 is released by then, given the
initial problems with upgrading from 5.x -> 6.x, they're not going to pull
the rug out of 5.1 just yet. If I'm wrong, that's going to be pretty sad.


Jeff Lightner wrote: 

And you know this through divination maybe?



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Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:17 PM

To: Scott Jacobson; Simon (external) WEAVER; 'Paul Keating'; 

Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support





the end of support for 5.x will not be sooner than 12/2008





  

 ---Original Message---

 From: Scott Jacobson   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 Subject: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

 Sent: 14 May '07 21:02

 

 I also believe 5.1 MP4+ is the most rock solid product I've run (less DSSU

 issues) and would prefer to stay on that version and not be forced between

 choosing either 6.0 MP4+ or 6.5 GA

 

 

 I would suggest for those in the group who are also wanting to wait for

 6.5 MP1+ to contact their Veritas/Symantec SE/Account Mgr's and let them

 know as a customer you're being placed between a rock and a hard place in

 terms of migration choices.

 

 

 In talking with my former RTAM and current local Symantec SE, I'm starting

 to hear they maybe considering the Oct 2007 date as a "soft" and not a hard

 date.

 

 

 Now maybe the time to put our voices behind this and tell them Oct 2007

 end of support for 5.1 is unacceptable.

 

 

 Scott

 

 

 >>> "WEAVER, Simon (external)"  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/14/2007

 8:47 AM >>>

 

 

 Bit gutted really as I have personally found 5.1 to be rock solid here at

 both my sites!

 

 

 Guess 6.5 is coming sooner than expected now then !?

 

 

 Regards

 

 Simon Weaver

 3rd Line Technical Support

 Windows Domain Administrator

 

 _EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)_

 Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

 

 Email: [LINK: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

 

 

 -Original Message-

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 ] ON BEHALF OF Paul

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 SENT: 14 May 2007 15:42

 TO: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 

 SUBJECT: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4to6.0

 MP4

 

 

 [LINK:

 
http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_DataCenter/279
039.pdf
 ]

 
http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_DataCenter/279
039.pdf
 

 

 

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 SENT: May 14, 2007 9:59 AM

 TO: 'Forester, Jack L'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 

 SUBJECT: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4to6.0

 MP4

 

 

 can I have confirmation of this please or a web site or link ??

 

 

 Regards

 

 Simon Weaver

 3rd Line Technical Support

 Windows Domain Administrator

 

 _EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)_

 Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

2007-05-16 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

All
This link here
 
http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/279039.htm
 
 
Was last updated on 21st Sep 2005.
 
Either they are sticking to their guns, or no formal update has been
announced ?
 
 

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

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-Original Message-
From: Steven L. Sesar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 May 2007 22:09
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: smpt; Scott Jacobson; WEAVER, Simon (external); Paul Keating;
VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support


There's no way that 10/2007 makes sense for EOL of 5.1. Assuming, and this
is a big assumption, given Veritas'/Symantec's history regarding making
their release dates with NBU, that 6.5 is released by then, given the
initial problems with upgrading from 5.x -> 6.x, they're not going to pull
the rug out of 5.1 just yet. If I'm wrong, that's going to be pretty sad.


Jeff Lightner wrote: 

And you know this through divination maybe?



-Original Message-

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] On Behalf Of smpt

Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:17 PM

To: Scott Jacobson; Simon (external) WEAVER; 'Paul Keating'; 

Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support





the end of support for 5.x will not be sooner than 12/2008





  

 ---Original Message---

 From: Scott Jacobson   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 Subject: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

 Sent: 14 May '07 21:02

 

 I also believe 5.1 MP4+ is the most rock solid product I've run (less DSSU

 issues) and would prefer to stay on that version and not be forced between

 choosing either 6.0 MP4+ or 6.5 GA

 

 

 I would suggest for those in the group who are also wanting to wait for

 6.5 MP1+ to contact their Veritas/Symantec SE/Account Mgr's and let them

 know as a customer you're being placed between a rock and a hard place in

 terms of migration choices.

 

 

 In talking with my former RTAM and current local Symantec SE, I'm starting

 to hear they maybe considering the Oct 2007 date as a "soft" and not a hard

 date.

 

 

 Now maybe the time to put our voices behind this and tell them Oct 2007

 end of support for 5.1 is unacceptable.

 

 

 Scott

 

 

 >>> "WEAVER, Simon (external)"  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/14/2007

 8:47 AM >>>

 

 

 Bit gutted really as I have personally found 5.1 to be rock solid here at

 both my sites!

 

 

 Guess 6.5 is coming sooner than expected now then !?

 

 

 Regards

 

 Simon Weaver

 3rd Line Technical Support

 Windows Domain Administrator

 

 _EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)_

 Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

 

 Email: [LINK: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

 

 

 -Original Message-

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] ON BEHALF OF Paul

 Keating

 SENT: 14 May 2007 15:42

 TO: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 

 SUBJECT: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4to6.0

 MP4

 

 

 [LINK:

 
http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_DataCenter/279
039.pdf
 ]

 
http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_DataCenter/279
039.pdf
 

 

 

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 ] ON BEHALF OF WEAVER,

 Simon (external)

 SENT: May 14, 2007 9:59 AM

 TO: 'Forester, Jack L'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 

 SUBJECT: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4to6.0

 MP4

 

 

 can I have confirmation of this please or a web site or link ??

 

 

 Regards

 

 Simon Weaver

 3rd Line Technical Support

 Windows Domain Administrator

 

 _EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)_

 Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

2007-05-16 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Jeff
Well think about it . Most companies announce end of life for a product
and normally give 12 - 18 months!

If what you are saying is right, then Symantec are giving us 5 MONTHS to
change ???

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

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-Original Message-
From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 May 2007 21:20
To: smpt; Scott Jacobson; WEAVER, Simon (external); Paul Keating;
VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support


And you know this through divination maybe?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of smpt
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:17 PM
To: Scott Jacobson; Simon (external) WEAVER; 'Paul Keating'; 
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support


the end of support for 5.x will not be sooner than 12/2008


>  ---Original Message---
>  From: Scott Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Subject: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support
>  Sent: 14 May '07 21:02
>  
>  I also believe 5.1 MP4+ is the most rock solid product I've run (less 
> DSSU
>  issues) and would prefer to stay on that version and not be forced
between
>  choosing either 6.0 MP4+ or 6.5 GA
>  
>  
>  I would suggest for those in the group who are also wanting to wait 
> for  6.5 MP1+ to contact their Veritas/Symantec SE/Account Mgr's and 
> let them  know as a customer you're being placed between a rock and a 
> hard place in  terms of migration choices.
>  
>  
>  In talking with my former RTAM and current local Symantec SE, I'm 
> starting  to hear they maybe considering the Oct 2007 date as a "soft" 
> and not a hard  date.
>  
>  
>  Now maybe the time to put our voices behind this and tell them Oct 
> 2007  end of support for 5.1 is unacceptable.
>  
>  
>  Scott
>  
>  
>  >>> "WEAVER, Simon (external)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 5/14/2007  8:47 AM >>>
>  
>  
>  Bit gutted really as I have personally found 5.1 to be rock solid 
> here at  both my sites!
>  
>  
>  Guess 6.5 is coming sooner than expected now then !?
>  
>  
>  Regards
>  
>  Simon Weaver
>  3rd Line Technical Support
>  Windows Domain Administrator
>  
>  _EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)_
>  Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
>  
>  Email: [LINK: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  
>  
>  -Original Message-
>  FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ON BEHALF OF Paul  
> Keating
>  SENT: 14 May 2007 15:42
>  TO: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>  SUBJECT: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 
> MP4to6.0  MP4
>  
>  
>  [LINK:  
> http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_DataCent
> er/279039.pdf]
>
http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_DataCenter/279
039.pdf
>  
>  
>  --
>  
>  
>  -Original Message-
>  FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ON BEHALF OF 
> WEAVER,  Simon (external)
>  SENT: May 14, 2007 9:59 AM
>  TO: 'Forester, Jack L'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>  SUBJECT: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 
> MP4to6.0  MP4
>  
>  
>  can I have confirmation of this please or a web site or link ??
>  
>  
>  Regards
>  
>  Simon Weaver
>  3rd Line Technical Support
>  Windows Domain Administrator
>  
>  _EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)_
>  Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
>  
>  Email: [LINK: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  
>  
>


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[Veritas-bu] Client install in MSCS

2007-05-16 Thread solaris
how does one install just plain client in MSCS cluster. 
manual only decribes server in detail.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape drive contention

2007-05-16 Thread Darren Dunham
> I'd like to dedicate a tape drive for this restore job so I decremented =
> the number of tape drives in my storage unit by one and then created a =
> new storage unit with one drive in it.

You don't need to create the one-drive STU.

> But I'm not sure that I've solved my problem since I can't direct the =
> restore to a particular storage unit...

Right.  Restores don't use a storage unit the way that backups do.  You
just need to make sure that at least one drive is unused.  If you only
have one STU used by backups, then you did that when you decremented the
drive count.

(If you have multiple STUs on the robot with SSO, then this is harder).

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.x catalog format compatible between Linux and Solaris?

2007-05-16 Thread Ed Wilts
> I've done AIX to Linux  and  HPUX to linux.
> I don't see why you can't do a solaris to linux, as netbackup databases
> (for netbackup up to 5.x) is flat files.

> 
> The only think you cant done is windows to linux (maybe with unix2dos)

We've done Windows to Solaris but that was back on 3.4.  It was a major
undertaking...

.../Ed

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[Veritas-bu] Tape drive contention

2007-05-16 Thread Conner, Neil
I have a restore request that requires a dozen tapes to satisfy and the job 
failed with a media mount timeout and while nightly backups were running.

 

I'd like to dedicate a tape drive for this restore job so I decremented the 
number of tape drives in my storage unit by one and then created a new storage 
unit with one drive in it.

 

But I'm not sure that I've solved my problem since I can't direct the restore 
to a particular storage unit...

 

Neil

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[Veritas-bu] Re: LotusNotes backup strategy

2007-05-16 Thread tsufan

Steve:

Just to let you know how I handle things with our Notes Servers. The shop I 
work in has 10 Mail servers & 4 Apps servers.  I do fulls monthly, weekly 
cumulative & daily diffs w/trans logs being backed up as well.  We do the 
backup as a MS-Windows-MT.  

We have not had a problem with speed since the files are backed up this way.  
The Notes Agent killed the backup time in the test environment that is why we 
use MS-Windows-MT.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

2007-05-16 Thread Steven L. Sesar
There's no way that 10/2007 makes sense for EOL of 5.1. Assuming, and 
this is a big assumption, given Veritas'/Symantec's history regarding 
making their release dates with NBU, that 6.5 is released by then, given 
the initial problems with upgrading from 5.x -> 6.x, they're not going 
to pull the rug out of 5.1 just yet. If I'm wrong, that's going to be 
pretty sad.



Jeff Lightner wrote:

And you know this through divination maybe?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of smpt
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:17 PM
To: Scott Jacobson; Simon (external) WEAVER; 'Paul Keating'; 
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support



the end of support for 5.x will not be sooner than 12/2008


  

 ---Original Message---
 From: Scott Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support
 Sent: 14 May '07 21:02
 
 I also believe 5.1 MP4+ is the most rock solid product I've run (less DSSU

 issues) and would prefer to stay on that version and not be forced between
 choosing either 6.0 MP4+ or 6.5 GA
 
 
 I would suggest for those in the group who are also wanting to wait for

 6.5 MP1+ to contact their Veritas/Symantec SE/Account Mgr's and let them
 know as a customer you're being placed between a rock and a hard place in
 terms of migration choices.
 
 
 In talking with my former RTAM and current local Symantec SE, I'm starting

 to hear they maybe considering the Oct 2007 date as a "soft" and not a hard
 date.
 
 
 Now maybe the time to put our voices behind this and tell them Oct 2007

 end of support for 5.1 is unacceptable.
 
 
 Scott
 
 
 >>> "WEAVER, Simon (external)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/14/2007

 8:47 AM >>>
 
 
 Bit gutted really as I have personally found 5.1 to be rock solid here at

 both my sites!
 
 
 Guess 6.5 is coming sooner than expected now then !?
 
 
 Regards
 
 Simon Weaver

 3rd Line Technical Support
 Windows Domain Administrator
 
 _EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)_

 Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
 
 Email: [LINK: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 -Original Message-

 FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ON BEHALF OF Paul
 Keating
 SENT: 14 May 2007 15:42
 TO: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 SUBJECT: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4to6.0
 MP4
 
 
 [LINK:

 
http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_DataCenter/279039.pdf]
 
http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_DataCenter/279039.pdf
 
 
 --
 
 
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 FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ON BEHALF OF WEAVER,
 Simon (external)
 SENT: May 14, 2007 9:59 AM
 TO: 'Forester, Jack L'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 SUBJECT: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4to6.0
 MP4
 
 
 can I have confirmation of this please or a web site or link ??
 
 
 Regards
 
 Simon Weaver

 3rd Line Technical Support
 Windows Domain Administrator
 
 _EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)_

 Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
 
 Email: [LINK: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.x catalog format compatible between Linux and Solaris?

2007-05-16 Thread Rongsheng Fang
Great! I will be migrating from Linux to Solaris.

Those .f files under /usr/openv/netbackup/db/images and 
/usr/openv/volmgr/database are binary files. Are they compatible between 
Linux and Solaris? When you do the migratoin, did you just copy them 
over from AIX (or HPUX) to Linux and NetBackup can use them without any 
tweaks?

Thanks,

Rongsheng

smpt wrote:
> I've done AIX to Linux  and  HPUX to linux.
> I don't see why you can't do a solaris to linux, as netbackup databases (for 
> netbackup up to 5.x) is flat files.
> 
> The only think you cant done is windows to linux (maybe with unix2dos)
> 
> stefanos
> 
>>  ---Original Message---
>>  From: Rongsheng Fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.x catalog format compatible between Linux and   
>> Solaris?
>>  Sent: 16 May '07 16:03
>>  
>>  Hi,
>>  
>>  Is the catalog format compatible between Linux and Solaris if both are
>>  running the same version of NetBackup Enterprise Server 5.x? I asked
>>  this question on this list before and got a couple of positive replies
>>  that said it was. Then I logged a case with Symantec support last week
>>  and asked about the Linux to Solaris migration. Here is what I got back
>>  from them:
>>  
>>  "NetBackup catalog and database format is not compatible between Linux
>>  and Solaris even if both are running the same version of NetBackup 5.x."
>>  
>>  Would somebody from Symantec or anybody who has done the migration from
>>  Linux to Solaris (or any other Unix platforms) kindly chime in and share
>>  your experience on this?
>>  
>>  Thanks,
>>  
>>  Rongsheng
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Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

2007-05-16 Thread Jeff Lightner
And you know this through divination maybe?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of smpt
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:17 PM
To: Scott Jacobson; Simon (external) WEAVER; 'Paul Keating'; 
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support


the end of support for 5.x will not be sooner than 12/2008


>  ---Original Message---
>  From: Scott Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Subject: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support
>  Sent: 14 May '07 21:02
>  
>  I also believe 5.1 MP4+ is the most rock solid product I've run (less DSSU
>  issues) and would prefer to stay on that version and not be forced between
>  choosing either 6.0 MP4+ or 6.5 GA
>  
>  
>  I would suggest for those in the group who are also wanting to wait for
>  6.5 MP1+ to contact their Veritas/Symantec SE/Account Mgr's and let them
>  know as a customer you're being placed between a rock and a hard place in
>  terms of migration choices.
>  
>  
>  In talking with my former RTAM and current local Symantec SE, I'm starting
>  to hear they maybe considering the Oct 2007 date as a "soft" and not a hard
>  date.
>  
>  
>  Now maybe the time to put our voices behind this and tell them Oct 2007
>  end of support for 5.1 is unacceptable.
>  
>  
>  Scott
>  
>  
>  >>> "WEAVER, Simon (external)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/14/2007
>  8:47 AM >>>
>  
>  
>  Bit gutted really as I have personally found 5.1 to be rock solid here at
>  both my sites!
>  
>  
>  Guess 6.5 is coming sooner than expected now then !?
>  
>  
>  Regards
>  
>  Simon Weaver
>  3rd Line Technical Support
>  Windows Domain Administrator
>  
>  _EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)_
>  Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
>  
>  Email: [LINK: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  
>  
>  -Original Message-
>  FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ON BEHALF OF Paul
>  Keating
>  SENT: 14 May 2007 15:42
>  TO: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>  SUBJECT: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4to6.0
>  MP4
>  
>  
>  [LINK:
>  
> http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_DataCenter/279039.pdf]
>  
> http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_DataCenter/279039.pdf
>  
>  
>  --
>  
>  
>  -Original Message-
>  FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ON BEHALF OF WEAVER,
>  Simon (external)
>  SENT: May 14, 2007 9:59 AM
>  TO: 'Forester, Jack L'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>  SUBJECT: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4to6.0
>  MP4
>  
>  
>  can I have confirmation of this please or a web site or link ??
>  
>  
>  Regards
>  
>  Simon Weaver
>  3rd Line Technical Support
>  Windows Domain Administrator
>  
>  _EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)_
>  Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
>  
>  Email: [LINK: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Veritas-bu] 6.5 Notes

2007-05-16 Thread Martin, Jonathan
Did anyone keep a copy of the 6.5 Beta Release Notes that were posted
here a month or more ago?  I have the original email but the link
doesn't work any more.  I thought I made a local copy but can't seem to
find it.

TIA,

-Jonathan

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas Technote ID:284706

2007-05-16 Thread smpt
Hi I can't find it now.
What you want to know from this thechnote?



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>  Sent: 11 May '07 13:47
>  
>  Does anyone have a copy of Veritas Technote ID:284706?
>  
>  Upgrading NetBackup from 4.5 to 6.0.
>  
>  Cheers
>  
>  Michael
>  
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Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

2007-05-16 Thread smpt

the end of support for 5.x will not be sooner than 12/2008


>  ---Original Message---
>  From: Scott Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Subject: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support
>  Sent: 14 May '07 21:02
>  
>  I also believe 5.1 MP4+ is the most rock solid product I've run (less DSSU
>  issues) and would prefer to stay on that version and not be forced between
>  choosing either 6.0 MP4+ or 6.5 GA
>  
>  
>  I would suggest for those in the group who are also wanting to wait for
>  6.5 MP1+ to contact their Veritas/Symantec SE/Account Mgr's and let them
>  know as a customer you're being placed between a rock and a hard place in
>  terms of migration choices.
>  
>  
>  In talking with my former RTAM and current local Symantec SE, I'm starting
>  to hear they maybe considering the Oct 2007 date as a "soft" and not a hard
>  date.
>  
>  
>  Now maybe the time to put our voices behind this and tell them Oct 2007
>  end of support for 5.1 is unacceptable.
>  
>  
>  Scott
>  
>  
>  >>> "WEAVER, Simon (external)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/14/2007
>  8:47 AM >>>
>  
>  
>  Bit gutted really as I have personally found 5.1 to be rock solid here at
>  both my sites!
>  
>  
>  Guess 6.5 is coming sooner than expected now then !?
>  
>  
>  Regards
>  
>  Simon Weaver
>  3rd Line Technical Support
>  Windows Domain Administrator
>  
>  _EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)_
>  Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
>  
>  Email: [LINK: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  
>  
>  -Original Message-
>  FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ON BEHALF OF Paul
>  Keating
>  SENT: 14 May 2007 15:42
>  TO: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>  SUBJECT: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4to6.0
>  MP4
>  
>  
>  [LINK:
>  
> http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_DataCenter/279039.pdf]
>  
> http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_DataCenter/279039.pdf
>  
>  
>  --
>  
>  
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>  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ON BEHALF OF WEAVER,
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>  SUBJECT: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4to6.0
>  MP4
>  
>  
>  can I have confirmation of this please or a web site or link ??
>  
>  
>  Regards
>  
>  Simon Weaver
>  3rd Line Technical Support
>  Windows Domain Administrator
>  
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.x catalog format compatible between Linux and Solaris?

2007-05-16 Thread smpt
I've done AIX to Linux  and  HPUX to linux.
I don't see why you can't do a solaris to linux, as netbackup databases (for 
netbackup up to 5.x) is flat files.

The only think you cant done is windows to linux (maybe with unix2dos)

stefanos

>  ---Original Message---
>  From: Rongsheng Fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.x catalog format compatible between Linux and
> Solaris?
>  Sent: 16 May '07 16:03
>  
>  Hi,
>  
>  Is the catalog format compatible between Linux and Solaris if both are
>  running the same version of NetBackup Enterprise Server 5.x? I asked
>  this question on this list before and got a couple of positive replies
>  that said it was. Then I logged a case with Symantec support last week
>  and asked about the Linux to Solaris migration. Here is what I got back
>  from them:
>  
>  "NetBackup catalog and database format is not compatible between Linux
>  and Solaris even if both are running the same version of NetBackup 5.x."
>  
>  Would somebody from Symantec or anybody who has done the migration from
>  Linux to Solaris (or any other Unix platforms) kindly chime in and share
>  your experience on this?
>  
>  Thanks,
>  
>  Rongsheng
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[Veritas-bu] locked/busy file action for windows clients

2007-05-16 Thread Adeday
How can I set the locked/file action for windows clients? I can set that for 
unix clients from the master server but I don't see the same option for the 
windows clients.

I am using NBU 5.1 Master/media.

Thanks




   
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Starting an Archive backup from a policy [NC]

2007-05-16 Thread misha . pavlov
Maybe I am missing something, but I do not see the reason to use User 
Archive in this case ( files copy to central archive succeded or failed ). 

User Backups are always level 0 anyway and the jobs are logged in / 
tracked in Admin Console GUI as well, so they can be even restarted in 
case any problems with tape drives or such.

If the script to copy the files is running on the same server, where the 
files to be archived are, then I'd say the best way would be to have the 
same script to initiate the "User Backup" ( 
${NBUHOME}/netbackup/bin/bpbackup ).

, so ... 
1. copy files
2. backup up
3. clean up / delete
4. send customized mail notification / alarms

Seems pretty straight forward to me.

I do User Backups to backup databases dumps for Autosys initiated jobs as 
well as for SAs to do an offsite backup of the server we are about to 
decommission.
I wrote a quick shell wrapper to manage master server, log files location, 
files / dirs selection and it works like a charm.

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Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To
"'David Rock'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
"veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu" 
cc

Subject
Re: [Veritas-bu] Starting an Archive backup from a policy






This is just one folder I'm talking about here.  This folder simply has 
files that are recordings of every single phone call and cust service 
rep's computer screen while that phone call was happening.  Were talking 
about 100gigs per day and these people want to be able to go back a year!

So what we are doing is setting up a script to copy certain files (the 
ones that are over 24 hours old) and move them into this folder which will 
then be archived by netbackup.  Problem we have is if the folder is NOT 
archived (i.e. the script fails or doesn't run for whatever reason and we 
are not notified about it) and we don't catch it right away that drive 
will fill up quickly.  This is really my only option as no one wants to 
throw any more money into this project.  Luckily I have a ton of tapes.

My main question was that I wasn't sure if there was an alternative to 
USER Archive Backups.  It seems like a logical option to be able to have 
server directed archived backups in NB, I just figured I couldn't find 
where to do it.
Our big concern is that if the scheduled task doesn't run (which has 
happened and a server went without backups for 2 months) we would never 
know about it unless everyday we checked for a successful backup of the 
client initiated backups.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Rock
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:49 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Starting an Archive backup from a policy

* Schneider, Matthew J. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-16 
09:19]:
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to setup a policy to start an Archived backup from the
> media server instead of from the client.  In other words I would
> rather not use a script to start an archived backup from the client in
> the case the scheduled task or script fails, I would not find out
> about in the Activity Monitor.

no, no, NO.  User Archive backups can be run only from the client system
for a reason.  You want the USER to be the one to shoot themselves in
the foot, not you.  User Archives are bad news, ESPECIALLY scripted
ones.  All it takes is one filelist entry to be wrong and your whole
client system is GONE (backed up, but gone regardless).

So, unless you are the admin of that client system, do not go near it.
A better option is to understand what you are trying to accomplish and
see if there is a better (safer) way to do it.  Archive jobs are not
really intended to be used as a space-saving technique, they should be
used to Archive data (Take static data that is logically related and
store it off the system).  That is not the same thing.

Having said all that, of course there are ways to do it (bpstart_notify
on the client for one) but you should really re-evaluate your needs.

--
David Rock
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Starting an Archive backup from a policy

2007-05-16 Thread Schneider, Matthew J.
This is just one folder I'm talking about here.  This folder simply has files 
that are recordings of every single phone call and cust service rep's computer 
screen while that phone call was happening.  Were talking about 100gigs per day 
and these people want to be able to go back a year!

So what we are doing is setting up a script to copy certain files (the ones 
that are over 24 hours old) and move them into this folder which will then be 
archived by netbackup.  Problem we have is if the folder is NOT archived (i.e. 
the script fails or doesn't run for whatever reason and we are not notified 
about it) and we don't catch it right away that drive will fill up quickly.  
This is really my only option as no one wants to throw any more money into this 
project.  Luckily I have a ton of tapes.

My main question was that I wasn't sure if there was an alternative to USER 
Archive Backups.  It seems like a logical option to be able to have server 
directed archived backups in NB, I just figured I couldn't find where to do it.
Our big concern is that if the scheduled task doesn't run (which has happened 
and a server went without backups for 2 months) we would never know about it 
unless everyday we checked for a successful backup of the client initiated 
backups.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Rock
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:49 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Starting an Archive backup from a policy

* Schneider, Matthew J. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-16 09:19]:
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to setup a policy to start an Archived backup from the
> media server instead of from the client.  In other words I would
> rather not use a script to start an archived backup from the client in
> the case the scheduled task or script fails, I would not find out
> about in the Activity Monitor.

no, no, NO.  User Archive backups can be run only from the client system
for a reason.  You want the USER to be the one to shoot themselves in
the foot, not you.  User Archives are bad news, ESPECIALLY scripted
ones.  All it takes is one filelist entry to be wrong and your whole
client system is GONE (backed up, but gone regardless).

So, unless you are the admin of that client system, do not go near it.
A better option is to understand what you are trying to accomplish and
see if there is a better (safer) way to do it.  Archive jobs are not
really intended to be used as a space-saving technique, they should be
used to Archive data (Take static data that is logically related and
store it off the system).  That is not the same thing.

Having said all that, of course there are ways to do it (bpstart_notify
on the client for one) but you should really re-evaluate your needs.

--
David Rock
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Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

2007-05-16 Thread Jones, Courtenay
6.0 still continues to support NT.
 
Regards,

 
-cj
Courtenay Jones
UNIX Systems Engineer, Raleigh Technology Centre


 



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Simon (external)
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:08 AM
To: 'Weber, Philip'; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support


Am I right in thinking 6.0 or higher does no longer support NT 4 ?
 
 

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Weber,
Philip
Sent: 16 May 2007 11:52
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support


We still have a fairly busy 4.5 environment due to older OS
versions so I can't see us moving off our 5.1 environment for a while
... this for us is the "show-stopper" for not upgrading.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: 15 May 2007 12:46
To: 'Scott Jacobson'; 'Simon (external) WEAVER'; 'Paul
Keating'; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support



I don't believe that customers are being placed between
a rock and a hard place - 6.0 MP4 is a stable release that works today.
I have not heard of any show-stopper bugs in 6.0 that would prevent
anybody from upgrading.  You may need an engineering fix or two, and
perhaps MP5 will include those, but in general, the current release
works for just about everybody.

If you really feel that 5.1MP4 is rock solid, and there
are no issues, why are you concerned with Symantec continuing to support
it?  You don't *have* to upgrade - just don't log a call and expect it
to get fixed.  If you have no issues, you'll have no calls to log and it
won't matter if it's supported or not.  I've got a non-Symantec product
running that we last logged a call on in 2000 (and our license agreement
says that we have to keep it under support as long as we're running it).

  .../Ed

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Jacobson
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:03 PM
To: Simon (external) WEAVER; 'Paul Keating';
VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

 

I also believe 5.1 MP4+ is the most rock solid product
I've run (less DSSU issues) and would prefer to stay on that version and
not be forced between choosing either 6.0 MP4+ or 6.5 GA

I would suggest for those in the group who are also
wanting to wait for 6.5 MP1+ to contact their Veritas/Symantec
SE/Account Mgr's and let them know as a customer you're being placed
between a rock and a hard place in terms of migration choices.

 

In talking with my former RTAM and current local
Symantec SE, I'm starting to hear they maybe considering the Oct 2007
date as a "soft" and not a hard date.

 

Now maybe the time to put our voices behind this and
tell them Oct 2007 end of support for 5.1 is unacceptable.

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

2007-05-16 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Ok its just that the Nt clients run 3.4 still - they cannot be upgraded to
the latest IE version as some applications don't function with the latest
IE!

So effectively, until Nt has gone... We will remain on 5.1 - Because im sure
that (as you said) 6.0 will not work on clients under 5.1 or lower (3.4, 4.5
ect)

Regards

Simon Weaver
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support


Simon,
 
Your answer is Yes and No.  
Yes: 6.0 can backup up NT4 if it has a 5.1 client on it.  
No: 6.0 has no NT4 client

 
I still have 3 NT4.0 machines I backup every night with NBU 6.0 MP4. The
client on them is 5.1.


Doug Preston
Systems Engineer
Land America Tax and Flood Services
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Am I right in thinking 6.0 or higher does no longer support NT 4 ?
 
 

Regards

Simon Weaver
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We still have a fairly busy 4.5 environment due to older OS versions
so I can't see us moving off our 5.1 environment for a while ... this for us
is the "show-stopper" for not upgrading.

-Original Message-
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Sent: 15 May 2007 12:46
To: 'Scott Jacobson'; 'Simon (external) WEAVER'; 'Paul
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support



I don't believe that customers are being placed between
a rock and a hard place - 6.0 MP4 is a stable release that works today. I
have not heard of any show-stopper bugs in 6.0 that would prevent anybody
from upgrading.  You may need an engineering fix or two, and perhaps MP5
will include those, but in general, the current release works for just about
everybody.

If you really feel that 5.1MP4 is rock solid, and there
are no issues, why are you concerned with Symantec continuing to support it?
You don't *have* to upgrade - just don't log a call and expect it to get
fixed.  If you have no issues, you'll have no calls to log and it won't
matter if it's supported or not.  I've got a non-Symantec product running
that we last logged a call on in 2000 (and our license agreement says that
we have to keep it under support as long as we're running it).

  .../Ed

--

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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jacobson
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:03 PM
To: Simon (external) WEAVER; 'Paul Keating';
VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

 

I also believe 5.1 MP4+ is the most rock solid product
I've run (less DSSU issues) and would prefer to stay on that version and not
be forced between choosing either 6.0 MP4+ or 6.5 GA

I would suggest for those in the group who are also
wanting to wait for 6.5 MP1+ to contact their Veritas/Symantec SE/Account
Mgr's and let them know as a customer you're being placed between a rock and
a hard place in terms of migration

Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

2007-05-16 Thread Preston, Douglas L
Simon,
 
Your answer is Yes and No.  
Yes: 6.0 can backup up NT4 if it has a 5.1 client on it.  
No: 6.0 has no NT4 client

 
I still have 3 NT4.0 machines I backup every night with NBU 6.0 MP4.
The client on them is 5.1.


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Am I right in thinking 6.0 or higher does no longer support NT 4 ?
 
 

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

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Sent: 16 May 2007 11:52
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support


We still have a fairly busy 4.5 environment due to older OS
versions so I can't see us moving off our 5.1 environment for a while
... this for us is the "show-stopper" for not upgrading.

-Original Message-
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Sent: 15 May 2007 12:46
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support



I don't believe that customers are being placed between
a rock and a hard place - 6.0 MP4 is a stable release that works today.
I have not heard of any show-stopper bugs in 6.0 that would prevent
anybody from upgrading.  You may need an engineering fix or two, and
perhaps MP5 will include those, but in general, the current release
works for just about everybody.

If you really feel that 5.1MP4 is rock solid, and there
are no issues, why are you concerned with Symantec continuing to support
it?  You don't *have* to upgrade - just don't log a call and expect it
to get fixed.  If you have no issues, you'll have no calls to log and it
won't matter if it's supported or not.  I've got a non-Symantec product
running that we last logged a call on in 2000 (and our license agreement
says that we have to keep it under support as long as we're running it).

  .../Ed

--

Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=821118 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Jacobson
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:03 PM
To: Simon (external) WEAVER; 'Paul Keating';
VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

 

I also believe 5.1 MP4+ is the most rock solid product
I've run (less DSSU issues) and would prefer to stay on that version and
not be forced between choosing either 6.0 MP4+ or 6.5 GA

I would suggest for those in the group who are also
wanting to wait for 6.5 MP1+ to contact their Veritas/Symantec
SE/Account Mgr's and let them know as a customer you're being placed
between a rock and a hard place in terms of migration choices.

 

In talking with my former RTAM and current local
Symantec SE, I'm starting to hear they maybe considering the Oct 2007
date as a "soft" and not a hard date.

 

Now maybe the time to put our voices behind this and
tell them Oct 2007 end of support for 5.1 is unacceptable.

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

2007-05-16 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Am I right in thinking 6.0 or higher does no longer support NT 4 ?
 
 

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

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Philip
Sent: 16 May 2007 11:52
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support


We still have a fairly busy 4.5 environment due to older OS versions so I
can't see us moving off our 5.1 environment for a while ... this for us is
the "show-stopper" for not upgrading.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: 15 May 2007 12:46
To: 'Scott Jacobson'; 'Simon (external) WEAVER'; 'Paul Keating';
VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support



I don't believe that customers are being placed between a rock and a hard
place - 6.0 MP4 is a stable release that works today.  I have not heard of
any show-stopper bugs in 6.0 that would prevent anybody from upgrading.  You
may need an engineering fix or two, and perhaps MP5 will include those, but
in general, the current release works for just about everybody.

If you really feel that 5.1MP4 is rock solid, and there are no issues, why
are you concerned with Symantec continuing to support it?  You don't *have*
to upgrade - just don't log a call and expect it to get fixed.  If you have
no issues, you'll have no calls to log and it won't matter if it's supported
or not.  I've got a non-Symantec product running that we last logged a call
on in 2000 (and our license agreement says that we have to keep it under
support as long as we're running it).

  .../Ed

--

Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

I GoodSearch for Bundles Of Love

http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=821118 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Jacobson
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:03 PM
To: Simon (external) WEAVER; 'Paul Keating';
VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

 

I also believe 5.1 MP4+ is the most rock solid product I've run (less DSSU
issues) and would prefer to stay on that version and not be forced between
choosing either 6.0 MP4+ or 6.5 GA

I would suggest for those in the group who are also wanting to wait for 6.5
MP1+ to contact their Veritas/Symantec SE/Account Mgr's and let them know as
a customer you're being placed between a rock and a hard place in terms of
migration choices.

 

In talking with my former RTAM and current local Symantec SE, I'm starting
to hear they maybe considering the Oct 2007 date as a "soft" and not a hard
date.

 

Now maybe the time to put our voices behind this and tell them Oct 2007 end
of support for 5.1 is unacceptable.

 

Scott



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Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

2007-05-16 Thread Weber, Philip
We still have a fairly busy 4.5 environment due to older OS versions so
I can't see us moving off our 5.1 environment for a while ... this for
us is the "show-stopper" for not upgrading.

-Original Message-
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Sent: 15 May 2007 12:46
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support



I don't believe that customers are being placed between a rock and a
hard place - 6.0 MP4 is a stable release that works today.  I have not
heard of any show-stopper bugs in 6.0 that would prevent anybody from
upgrading.  You may need an engineering fix or two, and perhaps MP5 will
include those, but in general, the current release works for just about
everybody.

If you really feel that 5.1MP4 is rock solid, and there are no issues,
why are you concerned with Symantec continuing to support it?  You don't
*have* to upgrade - just don't log a call and expect it to get fixed.
If you have no issues, you'll have no calls to log and it won't matter
if it's supported or not.  I've got a non-Symantec product running that
we last logged a call on in 2000 (and our license agreement says that we
have to keep it under support as long as we're running it).

  .../Ed

--

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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

I GoodSearch for Bundles Of Love

http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=821118 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Jacobson
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:03 PM
To: Simon (external) WEAVER; 'Paul Keating';
VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support

 

I also believe 5.1 MP4+ is the most rock solid product I've run (less
DSSU issues) and would prefer to stay on that version and not be forced
between choosing either 6.0 MP4+ or 6.5 GA

I would suggest for those in the group who are also wanting to wait for
6.5 MP1+ to contact their Veritas/Symantec SE/Account Mgr's and let them
know as a customer you're being placed between a rock and a hard place
in terms of migration choices.

 

In talking with my former RTAM and current local Symantec SE, I'm
starting to hear they maybe considering the Oct 2007 date as a "soft"
and not a hard date.

 

Now maybe the time to put our voices behind this and tell them Oct 2007
end of support for 5.1 is unacceptable.

 

Scott




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[Veritas-bu] Re: RMAN - Duplicate Database with Veritas to new server

2007-05-16 Thread ryeddu

ok found the document -

Page 118 on Netbackup 6.0 documentation.

Manual is called - Netbackup for Oracle Systems Administrators guide for Linux 
& Linux.

Netbackup server configuration should be-

to restict clients for alternate restore to specific clients -
/usr/openv/netbackup/db/altnames/client_name
where clinet_name is the name of client allowed to redirect restore ( the 
destination client). Then, add the name of the Netbackup for Oracle client to 
the file.

Read the manual from pg 118-121 to fully go through the checklist.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Starting an Archive backup from a policy

2007-05-16 Thread David Rock
* Schneider, Matthew J. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-16 09:19]:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm trying to setup a policy to start an Archived backup from the
> media server instead of from the client.  In other words I would
> rather not use a script to start an archived backup from the client in
> the case the scheduled task or script fails, I would not find out
> about in the Activity Monitor.

no, no, NO.  User Archive backups can be run only from the client system
for a reason.  You want the USER to be the one to shoot themselves in
the foot, not you.  User Archives are bad news, ESPECIALLY scripted
ones.  All it takes is one filelist entry to be wrong and your whole
client system is GONE (backed up, but gone regardless).

So, unless you are the admin of that client system, do not go near it.
A better option is to understand what you are trying to accomplish and
see if there is a better (safer) way to do it.  Archive jobs are not
really intended to be used as a space-saving technique, they should be
used to Archive data (Take static data that is logically related and
store it off the system).  That is not the same thing.

Having said all that, of course there are ways to do it (bpstart_notify
on the client for one) but you should really re-evaluate your needs.

-- 
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[Veritas-bu] Re: RMAN - Duplicate Database with Veritas to new server

2007-05-16 Thread ryeddu

Did you make the modification son the Netbackup Master server, for an alternate 
(destsination) client to see the Source client. There is and altnames directory 
created on the master server.

Name of file being the destination machine name
Contents of the file: hostname of the source machine

There's also a keyword which you can touch in the /usr/openv/netbackup/?
directory to remove any restore restrictions.

All this is documented in Netbackup documentation.

Hope this helps.

Rajiv.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] blib and exclude lists

2007-05-16 Thread Weber, Philip
It's not really an answer to your question :-O but Advanced Client
backups for Oracle RMAN (Proxy Copy) *DO* read exclude lists, which is
the opposite of normal operation with NetBackup Agent for Oracle RMAN
backups.
 
I think Symantec have addressed this as a potential data loss issue in
the latest MP for NBU 5.1.

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] blib and exclude lists



Does anyone have a definitive answer as to whether blib backups will
read or not exclude lists? I have looked through the admin, advanced
client and oracle agent manuals with not success.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Start NBU non-root

2007-05-16 Thread David Rock
* Ed Wilts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-15 21:01]:
> One word of caution - if your script isn't absolutely rock solid, you could
> potentially set yourself up for a world of hurt.  For example, if you allow
> apache to run bprestore via sudo and don't properly restrict the source and
> target destinations, you could find yourself allowing a user to restore
> ~/myownpasswd.file to an arbitrary Unix host and now you have one or more
> compromised system.  If the user can restore the passwd file on your
> NetBackup master, you now have a totally compromised environment since he
> can now restore anything to anywhere as well as having full read access to
> everything.

I couldn't agree with this more.  We had a couple commands that we
allowed certain users to sudo to that were READ ONLY tools, like
bppllist.  I don't even like our operators having access to the Activity
Monitor through the java GUI because it's not just viewing.  NBU has a
wretched excuse for a security model.

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[Veritas-bu] NBU 5.x catalog format compatible between Linux and Solaris?

2007-05-16 Thread Rongsheng Fang
Hi,

Is the catalog format compatible between Linux and Solaris if both are 
running the same version of NetBackup Enterprise Server 5.x? I asked 
this question on this list before and got a couple of positive replies 
that said it was. Then I logged a case with Symantec support last week 
and asked about the Linux to Solaris migration. Here is what I got back 
from them:

"NetBackup catalog and database format is not compatible between Linux 
and Solaris even if both are running the same version of NetBackup 5.x."

Would somebody from Symantec or anybody who has done the migration from 
Linux to Solaris (or any other Unix platforms) kindly chime in and share 
your experience on this?

Thanks,

Rongsheng
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[Veritas-bu] blib and exclude lists

2007-05-16 Thread Whelan, Patrick
Does anyone have a definitive answer as to whether blib backups will
read or not exclude lists? I have looked through the admin, advanced
client and oracle agent manuals with not success.

Patrick Whelan
NetBackup Specialist (Contractor)
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[Veritas-bu] Starting an Archive backup from a policy

2007-05-16 Thread Schneider, Matthew J.
Hello,

I'm trying to setup a policy to start an Archived backup from the media server 
instead of from the client.  In other words I would rather not use a script to 
start an archived backup from the client in the case the scheduled task or 
script fails, I would not find out about in the Activity Monitor.

We are running NB6.0 MP4, Solaris 9 master/media and this particular client is 
a windows 2003 box.  Thanks!

Regards,

Matthew J. Schneider


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[Veritas-bu] Qlogic HBA failover in SUSE

2007-05-16 Thread Hampus Lind
Hi all,

 

I am trying to setup HBA failover on my SELS 9 master and media servers, but
I find little info on this on the web. Anyone on this list doing SAN disk
failover in SLES 9 environments? If so, how have you set this up?

 

I use Qlogic HBA, and run LVM2 on top.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 13, Issue 16 - exchange m ailbox backup perf

2007-05-16 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Mark
I like my solution too (biased maybe!) - but seriously, I am not a fan of
BLB - my first steps, would be to ask why you need them, and for what
reasons the Exchange Admin cannot configure Ex2k3 to do the same job, within
its own application!

:-)

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Hickey
Sent: 16 May 2007 13:26
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 13,Issue 16 - exchange
mailbox backup perf



I'm liking Simon's solution as a first step

200 GB * 1024 = 204800 MB
204800 MB/3600 sec = 5.6 MB/sec

Assuming a 100 Mbit/sec LAN, and giving you the benefit of the doubt on the
bits per byte and protocol efficiency calculations, the best you can hope
for is 10 Mbytes/sec over the LAN, and you are getting 56% of that. Factor
in the inherent slowness of brick-level backup (getting away from this is
another good recommendation), think time on the client, bandwidth contention
(applications if you are using the corporate LAN, and other backup traffic
on a backup LAN), and your rates do not seem unusual.

Back in the day when backup was my life, 200 GB was a fairly common
architectural threshold for SAN attaching a server for backup instead of
going over the net.

Mark

By the way - the comments above are  my own, and do not reflect the
opinions, policies, practices, thoughts, wisps of ideas, etc. of my
employer.  They have no idea I am even responding to this message, so don't
construe the merest thing about them from what I am writing.

  >   Failing this, backups over fiber?
  >   
  >   Regards
  >   
  >   Simon Weaver
  >   3rd Line Technical Support
  >   Windows Domain Administrator
  >   
  >   EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
  >   Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
  >   
  >   Email:  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   eads.net
  >   
  >   -Original Message-
  >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Anas
  >   Kayal
  >   Sent: 10 May 2007 13:17
  >   To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
  >   Subject: [Veritas-bu] Exchange Mailbox Backup
  >   
  >   
  >   
  >   Im backing up Exchange 2003 Mailboxes through my LAN. Backup
process
  >   takes
  >   about 10 hours for about 200GB of data. Does anyone know what I
can do
  >   to
  >   drop it down.
  >   
  >   
  >   
  >   Anas

Mark Hickey
Technical Consultant
Storage Management
HITACHI DATA SYSTEMS
Northeast Region
P 617-395-8568/M 781-254-6441
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 13, Issue 16 - exchange mailbox backup perf

2007-05-16 Thread Mark Hickey

I'm liking Simon's solution as a first step

200 GB * 1024 = 204800 MB
204800 MB/3600 sec = 5.6 MB/sec

Assuming a 100 Mbit/sec LAN, and giving you the benefit of the doubt on
the bits per byte and protocol efficiency calculations, the best you can
hope for is 10 Mbytes/sec over the LAN, and you are getting 56% of that.
Factor in the inherent slowness of brick-level backup (getting away from
this is another good recommendation), think time on the client,
bandwidth contention (applications if you are using the corporate LAN,
and other backup traffic on a backup LAN), and your rates do not seem
unusual.

Back in the day when backup was my life, 200 GB was a fairly common
architectural threshold for SAN attaching a server for backup instead of
going over the net.

Mark

By the way - the comments above are  my own, and do not reflect the
opinions, policies, practices, thoughts, wisps of ideas, etc. of my
employer.  They have no idea I am even responding to this message, so
don't construe the merest thing about them from what I am writing.

  >   Failing this, backups over fiber?
  >   
  >   Regards
  >   
  >   Simon Weaver
  >   3rd Line Technical Support
  >   Windows Domain Administrator
  >   
  >   EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
  >   Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
  >   
  >   Email:  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   eads.net
  >   
  >   -Original Message-
  >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Anas
  >   Kayal
  >   Sent: 10 May 2007 13:17
  >   To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
  >   Subject: [Veritas-bu] Exchange Mailbox Backup
  >   
  >   
  >   
  >   Im backing up Exchange 2003 Mailboxes through my LAN. Backup
process
  >   takes
  >   about 10 hours for about 200GB of data. Does anyone know what I
can do
  >   to
  >   drop it down.
  >   
  >   
  >   
  >   Anas

Mark Hickey
Technical Consultant
Storage Management
HITACHI DATA SYSTEMS
Northeast Region
P 617-395-8568/M 781-254-6441
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[Veritas-bu] unable to configure changer and drive in Netbackup 5.1 in solaris 9

2007-05-16 Thread Ankeyavar, Sunanda
 
Hi all,
   I am unable to configure my library in netbackup5.1 in solaris 9.
I have connected library with 2 drives and a changer.
But NB5.1 is invetried only 1 robot and a drive, still failed to
configure as error message as "serial no of robot and drive does not
match"
 
is there any command to check wether NB5.1 has seen changer and drive ??
or any file where i should do any modification..
 
Thanks
Sunanda
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Exchange agent question

2007-05-16 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Dave
You do not specify the version of NBU or even Exchange you are running. But
there is an Exchange Admin for NetBackup Administrators guide available to
do this task.
 
Although I do not do BLB, providing your backup account has access to
Exchange, it should be a case of launching the Backup archive, restore tool,
selecting the Exchange Backup Policy type and the exchange server where the
mailbox resides.
 
>From there, you will get a tree structure, and should find the mailbox in
question.
 
then I guess you restore. 

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

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NBU 5

I'm trying to restore an individual mailbox back to our Exchange server, but
I can't see how. Does anyone have any ideas

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