[Veritas-bu] Vault and duplication related problem.

2007-07-16 Thread prabhakar singh

Hi

We have 1 master/media server and 3 mediaservers in our setup. One physical
library with 10 drives configured on master server. 80 drives of virtual
tape library distributed between master and mediaservers.
26 drives to master/media, another 26 drives to 1 media server and last 28
to 2 media server.

My problem is we are getting slow speed in duplication which causes delay in
vault schedules. Backups are going on virtual library using all the 3
servers.
My catalog is only on master server.


My concern is whether at the time of duplication the images which are to be
written from virtual library to physical library is flowing thru SAN
i.efiber channel or it is flowing thru network.

Kindly help me out with this.
Thanks in advance..
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[Veritas-bu] RES: RES: BACKUP EXIT STATUS = 59

2007-07-16 Thread Daniel Sigrist
 

Thank you Caleb,  you gave me the solution. I did:

 

svcs -a |grep -i bpcd

maintenance14:43:46 svc:/network/bpcd/tcp:default

 

then 

svcadm restart svc:/network/bpcd/tcp:default

 

svcs -a |grep -i bpcd

maintenance14:43:46 svc:/network/bpcd/tcp:default

 

so I tried:

 

svcadm clear svc:/network/bpcd/tcp:default

 

and then 

 

svcs -a |grep -i bpcd

online 15:56:54 svc:/network/bpcd/tcp:default

 

netstat -a |grep bpcd

  *.bpcd   *.*0  0 49152  0 LISTEN

 

Now I’m able to backup my machine again.

 

Thank you all guys for your imputs.

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De: Caleb Guinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 16 de julho de 2007 15:52
Para: Daniel Sigrist
Assunto: RE: [Veritas-bu] RES: BACKUP EXIT STATUS = 59

 

Bpcd should be a service on its own.   Try svcs –a |grep –i bpcd and see if
you get any output.  If so then just run svcadm restart
svc:/network/bpcd/tcp:default

 

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To: 'Marianne Van Den Berg'
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] RES: BACKUP EXIT STATUS = 59

 

I finally  found what is my problem:

 

netstat -a |grep bpcd

netstat -a |grep vnetd

  *.vnetd  *.*0  0 49152  0 LISTEN

 

So bpcd is not listening.

 

I checked the inetd.conf and found:

 

bpcdstream  tcp nowait  root/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpcd bpcd

vnetd   stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/openv/bin/vnetd vnetd

vopied  stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/openv/bin/vopied vopied

bpjava-msvc stream  tcp nowait  root
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpjava-msvc bpjava-msvc –transient

 

then restarted inetd:

 

svcadm restart network/inetd

 

and

 

netstat -a |grep bpcd

 

???

 

Nothing happened.

 

Any thoughts ?

 

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ocp2

 

De: Marianne Van Den Berg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 16 de julho de 2007 15:25
Para: Daniel Sigrist
Assunto: RE: [Veritas-bu] BACKUP EXIT STATUS = 59

 

What's in bpcd log on the client?

 

 

Marianne 

 

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Sent: 16 July 2007 18:28
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] BACKUP EXIT STATUS = 59

Hello gurus,

 

This last weekend some of my scheduled backups failed with  BACKUP EXIT
STATUS = 59. Teoricaly the Server and the clients are resolving the names
ok. I can do ssh from Server to client and from client to Server using the
names defined in /etc/hosts. But can’t do backups. Can you help me?

 

Solaris 10. 

Netbackup 4.5_SP6

 

Thank you,

 

Best regards.

 

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DBA Oracle Projeto SIGRES

Tel: (11) 3824-2074

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[Veritas-bu] RES: BACKUP EXIT STATUS = 59

2007-07-16 Thread Daniel Sigrist
I finally  found what is my problem:

 

netstat -a |grep bpcd

netstat -a |grep vnetd

  *.vnetd  *.*0  0 49152  0 LISTEN

 

So bpcd is not listening.

 

I checked the inetd.conf and found:

 

bpcdstream  tcp nowait  root/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpcd bpcd

vnetd   stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/openv/bin/vnetd vnetd

vopied  stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/openv/bin/vopied vopied

bpjava-msvc stream  tcp nowait  root
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpjava-msvc bpjava-msvc –transient

 

then restarted inetd:

 

svcadm restart network/inetd

 

and

 

netstat -a |grep bpcd

 

???

 

Nothing happened.

 

Any thoughts ?

 

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DBA Oracle Projeto SIGRES

Tel: (11) 3824-2074

Telefonica Pesquisa e Desenvolvimento

Rua Brigadeiro Galvao, 291 - 7º Andar

Barra Funda - Sao Paulo, SP

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

ocp2

 

De: Marianne Van Den Berg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 16 de julho de 2007 15:25
Para: Daniel Sigrist
Assunto: RE: [Veritas-bu] BACKUP EXIT STATUS = 59

 

What's in bpcd log on the client?

 

 

Marianne 

 

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Sent: 16 July 2007 18:28
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] BACKUP EXIT STATUS = 59

Hello gurus,

 

This last weekend some of my scheduled backups failed with  BACKUP EXIT
STATUS = 59. Teoricaly the Server and the clients are resolving the names
ok. I can do ssh from Server to client and from client to Server using the
names defined in /etc/hosts. But can’t do backups. Can you help me?

 

Solaris 10. 

Netbackup 4.5_SP6

 

Thank you,

 

Best regards.

 

__

Daniel Abramides Sigrist

DBA Oracle Projeto SIGRES

Tel: (11) 3824-2074

Telefonica Pesquisa e Desenvolvimento

Rua Brigadeiro Galvao, 291 - 7º Andar

Barra Funda - Sao Paulo, SP

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] RES: BACKUP EXIT STATUS = 59

2007-07-16 Thread Paul Keating
Hmmmis 4.5 supported on Solaris 10?
I thought it wasn't untill 5.0, as MP3 or 4.
 
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] RES: BACKUP EXIT STATUS = 59



I finally  found what is my problem:

 

netstat -a |grep bpcd

netstat -a |grep vnetd

  *.vnetd  *.*0  0 49152  0 
LISTEN

 

So bpcd is not listening.

 

I checked the inetd.conf and found:

 

bpcdstream  tcp nowait  root/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpcd 
bpcd

vnetd   stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/openv/bin/vnetd vnetd

vopied  stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/openv/bin/vopied vopied

bpjava-msvc stream  tcp nowait  root
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpjava-msvc bpjava-msvc -transient

 

then restarted inetd:

 

svcadm restart network/inetd

 

and

 

netstat -a |grep bpcd

 

???

 

Nothing happened.

 

Any thoughts ?

 

__

Daniel Abramides Sigrist

DBA Oracle Projeto SIGRES

Tel: (11) 3824-2074

Telefonica Pesquisa e Desenvolvimento

Rua Brigadeiro Galvao, 291 - 7º Andar

Barra Funda - Sao Paulo, SP

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 

De: Marianne Van Den Berg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 16 de julho de 2007 15:25
Para: Daniel Sigrist
Assunto: RE: [Veritas-bu] BACKUP EXIT STATUS = 59

 

What's in bpcd log on the client?

 

 

Marianne 

 





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel 
Sigrist
Sent: 16 July 2007 18:28
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] BACKUP EXIT STATUS = 59

Hello gurus,

 

This last weekend some of my scheduled backups failed with  BACKUP EXIT 
STATUS = 59. Teoricaly the Server and the clients are resolving the names ok. I 
can do ssh from Server to client and from client to Server using the names 
defined in /etc/hosts. But can't do backups. Can you help me?

 

Solaris 10. 

Netbackup 4.5_SP6

 

Thank you,

 

Best regards.

 

__

Daniel Abramides Sigrist

DBA Oracle Projeto SIGRES

Tel: (11) 3824-2074

Telefonica Pesquisa e Desenvolvimento

Rua Brigadeiro Galvao, 291 - 7º Andar

Barra Funda - Sao Paulo, SP

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Converting catalog form Solaris to Windows 2003

2007-07-16 Thread Curtis Preston
Someone else shared with me offline a tested method for converting the
server from unix to windows or windows to unix.  I'd like to drop my
idea (the unix2dos version) and start discussing this idea.  This one
has actually been used successfully, but the person in question request
anonymity.

So, ASSUMING THE MASTER SERVER NAME DOESN'T CHANGE...

It goes roughly like this:

A. Copy the binary files that are OS & Endian independent.  Use binary
mode ftp to copy the files from the following directories:

/usr/openv/netbackup/db/images
5.1:/usr/openv/volmgr/database/volDB
6.0:/usr/openv/db/data


B. Copy the text files that are endian independent, but need to have
proper line termination for the OS they'll be on.  Use ascii mode ftp to
copy the files from the following directories:

/usr/openv/netbackup/db/class
5.1:/usr/openv/volmgr/database/poolDB


C. In 5.1, fix a file that can't be copied over.

5:1 Use tpautoconf -a to re-populate globDB


D. Do not transfer /usr/openv/netbackup/db/jobs.  It is binary, but is
endian dependent, and therefore cannot make the journey from unix to
windows.


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From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 6:01 PM
To: Curtis Preston
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Converting catalog form Solaris to Windows
2003

Nice try, but I hope nobody follows the template below.  Having been
heavily
involved in a Windows to Solaris migration back in 3.4, I can tell you
it's
a lot more complicated than this.  If you have to ask for how to do this
migration, honestly, you don't have the skills to complete it.  

The short answer is to get professional help.  If you don't know what
you're
doing, you'll corrupt the works, lose backups as you revert, and
generally
create a huge mess for yourself.  You've got both the image catalog and
the
volume database to deal with.  You can't do one without the other.

Along with the fun stuff that Curtis documented below, you'll run into
files
that are over 2GB that unix2dos won't handle, and internal references to
the
master server name.  It's non-trivial and you'll watch NBU break in
weird
and wonderful ways when you try.  

When we did a *media server* rename with a Level 3 person on site (and
this
was on 6.0MP4), it still took us several hours and a call to engineering
before we gave up and left it the old name.

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:veritas-bu-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Preston
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:47 PM
> To: Akker Henk van den; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Converting catalog form Solaris to Windows
> 2003
> 
> Back to the original question. I think the databases (Sybase/emm, etc)
> would restore just fine, but the text files would have a problem.  So
> what if you just fixed the text files?
> 
> Although it's unsupported, I'm thinking that it's like the scenario
> below.  (Test and try at your own risk.  I'm typing from memory/ideas,
> not testing.)
> 
> 1. Load NBU software on the new master
> 2. Load Unix utilities on the Windows server (you're going to want
them
> anyway)
> 3. Recover the database (don't start the daemons yet)
> 4. Run a script like the following
> 
> cd 
> find . -print |xargs file |grep text |awk -F: '{print $1}'|while read
i
> do
>   unix2dos $i >$$.$i
>   mv $$.$i $i
> done
> 
> Again, try at your own risk.
> 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] bpflist not working in NBU 6.0 MP4?

2007-07-16 Thread Jeff Lightner
My note from the last time I had to use it doesn't show where I had to
do -rl in 5.1 like the link says.  Also my coworker didn't use this flag
either so he doesn't recall needing it in 5.1.   

It IS required in 6.0 as that is what got me working.   -client wasn't
necessary in 5.1 or 6.0 (of course the client and the master were the
same so it might be different if it was a different client.)

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> Did something change in bpflist?
> 
> Last time I used in 5.1 all I had to specify was backupid, start time
> and end time.=20
> 
> Now it keeps telling me "no entity" even though I've given it the
above.
> Adding master, client, policy etc... has not helped.  Always keeps
> saying no entity.

I've needed to specify a date, client, and recursion level to get
answers (even though the backupid should be sufficient).

> Is there an alternate way to get the list of files (into a text file)
so
> I can compare it with the restored files?  The restore burped at the
> very end so I'm trying to verify the files it said it missed are the
> only ones it missed so I can't use the restore log as my source of
what
> was backed up.

bplist should also do it, but it's not as convenient when you already
have the backupid.

See also:
http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/pipermail/veritas-bu/2006-October/038377.h
tml

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Re: [Veritas-bu] BACKUP EXIT STATUS = 59

2007-07-16 Thread Curtis Preston
Try running this from the master:

 

# bpgetconfig -M 

 

It should return a list of bp.conf parameters.  If it doesn't work, then create 
the logs on the client and increase the logging level to see why it's not 
working.

 

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To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] BACKUP EXIT STATUS = 59

 

Hello gurus,

 

This last weekend some of my scheduled backups failed with  BACKUP EXIT STATUS 
= 59. Teoricaly the Server and the clients are resolving the names ok. I can do 
ssh from Server to client and from client to Server using the names defined in 
/etc/hosts. But can't do backups. Can you help me?

 

Solaris 10. 

Netbackup 4.5_SP6

 

Thank you,

 

Best regards.

 

__

Daniel Abramides Sigrist

DBA Oracle Projeto SIGRES

Tel: (11) 3824-2074

Telefonica Pesquisa e Desenvolvimento

Rua Brigadeiro Galvao, 291 - 7º Andar

Barra Funda - Sao Paulo, SP

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Re: [Veritas-bu] BACKUP EXIT STATUS = 59

2007-07-16 Thread Paul Keating
It's not a resolution issue.
 
Your client is getting a backup request from an IP address that does not
resolve to the master/media server name as listed in its bp.conf.
 
if it was a resolution issue, you'd more likely get a stat 25.
 
bpclntcmd is your friend.
 
Well, that, or crank up the bpcd logs on your client. Shouldnt' take
more than 10 minutes to find out what's going on.
 
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Hello gurus,

 

This last weekend some of my scheduled backups failed with
BACKUP EXIT STATUS = 59. Teoricaly the Server and the clients are
resolving the names ok. I can do ssh from Server to client and from
client to Server using the names defined in /etc/hosts. But can't do
backups. Can you help me?

 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] bpflist not working in NBU 6.0 MP4?

2007-07-16 Thread Darren Dunham
> Did something change in bpflist?
> 
> Last time I used in 5.1 all I had to specify was backupid, start time
> and end time.=20
> 
> Now it keeps telling me "no entity" even though I've given it the above.
> Adding master, client, policy etc... has not helped.  Always keeps
> saying no entity.

I've needed to specify a date, client, and recursion level to get
answers (even though the backupid should be sufficient).

> Is there an alternate way to get the list of files (into a text file) so
> I can compare it with the restored files?  The restore burped at the
> very end so I'm trying to verify the files it said it missed are the
> only ones it missed so I can't use the restore log as my source of what
> was backed up.

bplist should also do it, but it's not as convenient when you already
have the backupid.

See also:
http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/pipermail/veritas-bu/2006-October/038377.html

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Converting catalog form Solaris to Windows 2003

2007-07-16 Thread Ed Wilts
> 1. If there is no unsupported way to do what we're talking about, then
> how have hundreds of customers done it?  Trust me; there is a way.  The
> only argument is what that way is and whether or not it's consumable by
> mere mortals.

There is no *supported* way to do it.  There are certainly many unsupported
methods to do it.

Every posted method that I've seen (and even done myself) has been
unsupported.  That doesn't mean they won't work - it means that if you break
it, Veritas will likely hand you both pieces and says "good luck".

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[Veritas-bu] BACKUP EXIT STATUS = 59

2007-07-16 Thread Daniel Sigrist
Hello gurus,

 

This last weekend some of my scheduled backups failed with  BACKUP EXIT
STATUS = 59. Teoricaly the Server and the clients are resolving the names
ok. I can do ssh from Server to client and from client to Server using the
names defined in /etc/hosts. But can’t do backups. Can you help me?

 

Solaris 10. 

Netbackup 4.5_SP6

 

Thank you,

 

Best regards.

 

__

Daniel Abramides Sigrist

DBA Oracle Projeto SIGRES

Tel: (11) 3824-2074

Telefonica Pesquisa e Desenvolvimento

Rua Brigadeiro Galvao, 291 - 7º Andar

Barra Funda - Sao Paulo, SP

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Converting catalog form Solaris to Windows 2003

2007-07-16 Thread Curtis Preston
Several points:

1. If there is no unsupported way to do what we're talking about, then
how have hundreds of customers done it?  Trust me; there is a way.  The
only argument is what that way is and whether or not it's consumable by
mere mortals.

2. I'm actually getting some interesting "you didn't get/hear it from
me" posts from people confirming that it's possible and they've done it,
but they don't want to publicly post so for various reasons.

3. If you take a look at the rest of the thread, we've already excluded
unix2dos as it doesn't support files greater than 2 GB.

4. I wasn't using unix2dos on binary files anyway.  That was the point
of the loop.  It ran the "file" command on each file and only ran
unix2dos on files that reported to be text type.

I'm going to post a better idea in a minute.  Read my next post.

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Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:19 AM
To: Curtis Preston; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Converting catalog form Solaris to Windows
2003

All

Reading the synopsis of the unix2dos utility this is for text files
*ONLY* 

Since NBU 4.5 the Netbackup DB's file files have been created in a
binary format. This is what the command cat_convert was created for. To
convert 3.4 ascii NBU database files to binary. And visa-versa until 5.1
when the utility would only allow the conversation of the images files,
file from ascii to binary.

Using the unix2dos utility will ONLY corrupt the files and make them
unusable.

Taking this into account there is NO UN/SUPPORTED WAY to migrate the NBU
DB files from a unix to windows master server. Especially if you are
going to change the master servers hostname in the process.

The best/safest method is to create a new master server from scratch,
with a different hostname. And migrate the clients to it slowly and
import essential images.

This is supported and you will get help from Symantec when you call. 

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Sent: 13 July 2007 17:41
To: Ed Wilts
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Converting catalog form Solaris to Windows
2003

I said it was a try. ;)  My idea was to start a discussion, not solve
the problem in one email. 

I think your comment is confusing two issues:
* Moving from Unix -> Windows
* Changing the name of the master server

They are two very different problems.  Try to do them both at once, and
you'll have a mess.  In my message, I was only trying to do the former,
not the latter.  The latter is also an oft-discussed issue, but there's
an unsupported doc from Symantec about how to do it.  I think there
should be an unsupported doc on how to deal with this issue.  It's been
done.  It's been done hundreds of times.  Let's document it already and
get it out there.

As to "if you have to ask, then you don't have the skill," I understand
what you're saying, but I don't agree with it.  I'd say "if you don't
understand the process, then don't try it."  Or "If you haven't tested
the process every way back and forth, then don't do it."  Or "Don't you
dare use the new server until you've verified that everything made it
over."

As I said in another post, it's all about those line feeds, and in some
cases the endian issue.  If you know what to do when, you could do it.
All I'm trying to see is if we can get someone to talk about what they
did when to see if we can get this sucker documented.


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VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

-Original Message-
From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 6:01 PM
To: Curtis Preston
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Converting catalog form Solaris to Windows
2003

Nice try, but I hope nobody follows the template below.  Having been
heavily involved in a Windows to Solaris migration back in 3.4, I can
tell you it's a lot more complicated than this.  If you have to ask for
how to do this migration, honestly, you don't have the skills to
complete it.  

The short answer is to get professional help.  If you don't know what
you're doing, you'll corrupt the works, lose backups as you revert, and
generally create a huge mess for yourself.  You've got both the image
catalog and the volume database to deal with.  You can't do one without
the other.

Along with the fun stuff that Curtis documented below, you'll run into
files that are over 2GB that unix2dos won't handle, and internal
references to the master server name.  It's non-trivial and you'll watch
NBU break in weird and wonderful ways when you try.  

When we did a *media server* rename with a Level 3 person on site (and
this was on 6.0MP4), it still took us several hours and a call to
e

Re: [Veritas-bu] bpflist not working in NBU 6.0 MP4?

2007-07-16 Thread Jeff Lightner
This is on UNIX.

 

I'm not sure what you would get without flags - perhaps the Windows
version defaults to current host?   On UNIX typing "bpflist" all by
itself returns "no entity".

 

The backup is run on our master server and backups filesystems mounted
on the master server (that is to say it is the client as well as the
master).

 

In the past (5.1) I found I could specify the backupid (which IMO should
have been enough since it is unique) but also had to specify -d (start
date/time) and -e (end date/time) even with the backupid.

 

I should mention I've tried it without the backupid as well - specifying
policy, date range, client etc... - no combination I've done has
resulted in output other than "no entity".

 

I got the backup IDs by using the bpimmedia and bpimagelist commands
(and verified they both gave the same IDs.).

 

This is a multi-stream (but NOT multiplex) backup so there are 3 backup
IDs.  None of the 3 backup IDs returned by bpimmedia and bpimagelist
work.

 



From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 10:53 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] bpflist not working in NBU 6.0 MP4?

 

Running it without command flags returns output for me.  What does
BackupID normally expect?  JobID?  Something else?

 

With JobID, I get a no entity as well.

 

All on Win2K3 NBU 6.0MP4.

 

Jason

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jeff
Lightner
Sent: Mon 7/16/2007 10:26 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] bpflist not working in NBU 6.0 MP4?

Did something change in bpflist?

Last time I used in 5.1 all I had to specify was backupid, start time
and end time. 

Now it keeps telling me "no entity" even though I've given it the above.
Adding master, client, policy etc... has not helped.  Always keeps
saying no entity.

The images are not expired (I just used them for a tape restore) and
bpimmedia shows the backup IDs.   It is only bpflist that doesn't seem
to recognize that the backups exist.

Is there an alternate way to get the list of files (into a text file) so
I can compare it with the restored files?  The restore burped at the
very end so I'm trying to verify the files it said it missed are the
only ones it missed so I can't use the restore log as my source of what
was backed up.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] bpflist not working in NBU 6.0 MP4?

2007-07-16 Thread Brooks, Jason
Running it without command flags returns output for me.  What does BackupID 
normally expect?  JobID?  Something else?
 
With JobID, I get a no entity as well.
 
All on Win2K3 NBU 6.0MP4.
 
Jason



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jeff Lightner
Sent: Mon 7/16/2007 10:26 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] bpflist not working in NBU 6.0 MP4?



Did something change in bpflist?

Last time I used in 5.1 all I had to specify was backupid, start time and end 
time. 

Now it keeps telling me "no entity" even though I've given it the above.   
Adding master, client, policy etc... has not helped.  Always keeps saying no 
entity.

The images are not expired (I just used them for a tape restore) and bpimmedia 
shows the backup IDs.   It is only bpflist that doesn't seem to recognize that 
the backups exist.

Is there an alternate way to get the list of files (into a text file) so I can 
compare it with the restored files?  The restore burped at the very end so I'm 
trying to verify the files it said it missed are the only ones it missed so I 
can't use the restore log as my source of what was backed up.

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[Veritas-bu] bpflist not working in NBU 6.0 MP4?

2007-07-16 Thread Jeff Lightner
Did something change in bpflist?

Last time I used in 5.1 all I had to specify was backupid, start time
and end time. 

Now it keeps telling me "no entity" even though I've given it the above.
Adding master, client, policy etc... has not helped.  Always keeps
saying no entity.

The images are not expired (I just used them for a tape restore) and
bpimmedia shows the backup IDs.   It is only bpflist that doesn't seem
to recognize that the backups exist.

Is there an alternate way to get the list of files (into a text file) so
I can compare it with the restored files?  The restore burped at the
very end so I'm trying to verify the files it said it missed are the
only ones it missed so I can't use the restore log as my source of what
was backed up.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade from 4.5 to 6.1

2007-07-16 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Is it possible? Did not think it was 

5.x to 6.0 and possible 5.x to 6.5 :-)

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

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Hi

Yes it is possible.
Ensure the globdb is full consistent on each media server

And

Read this from cover to cover and understand it

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/285590.htm

Cheers  

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade from 4.5 to 6.1


Hi to all, I have NB 4.5, I was just wandering if it is possible to upgrade
from 4.5 to 6.1 NB. If it is possible, please point me to some docs, because
it seems I can not find any.

Thanks Nemanja


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade from 4.5 to 6.1

2007-07-16 Thread Ed Wilts
For starters, there is no 6.1.  You'll need to upgrade from 4.5 to 5.x (I
think you can go to 5.1 directly but you'll need to verify this) and then go
to 6.0MP4.  Start your planning at the 6.0 upgrade portal on the Symantec
NetBackup support site.

.../Ed

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:veritas-bu-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nemanja Stosic
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:55 AM
> To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade from 4.5 to 6.1
> 
> 
> Hi to all, I have NB 4.5, I was just wandering if it is possible to
> upgrade
> from 4.5 to 6.1 NB. If it is possible, please point me to some docs,
> because
> it seems I can not find any.
> 
> Thanks Nemanja

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Converting catalog form Solaris to Windows 2003

2007-07-16 Thread mark.a.goodchild
All

Reading the synopsis of the unix2dos utility this is for text files
*ONLY* 

Since NBU 4.5 the Netbackup DB's file files have been created in a
binary format. This is what the command cat_convert was created for. To
convert 3.4 ascii NBU database files to binary. And visa-versa until 5.1
when the utility would only allow the conversation of the images files,
file from ascii to binary.

Using the unix2dos utility will ONLY corrupt the files and make them
unusable.

Taking this into account there is NO UN/SUPPORTED WAY to migrate the NBU
DB files from a unix to windows master server. Especially if you are
going to change the master servers hostname in the process.

The best/safest method is to create a new master server from scratch,
with a different hostname. And migrate the clients to it slowly and
import essential images.

This is supported and you will get help from Symantec when you call. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis
Preston
Sent: 13 July 2007 17:41
To: Ed Wilts
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Converting catalog form Solaris to Windows
2003

I said it was a try. ;)  My idea was to start a discussion, not solve
the problem in one email. 

I think your comment is confusing two issues:
* Moving from Unix -> Windows
* Changing the name of the master server

They are two very different problems.  Try to do them both at once, and
you'll have a mess.  In my message, I was only trying to do the former,
not the latter.  The latter is also an oft-discussed issue, but there's
an unsupported doc from Symantec about how to do it.  I think there
should be an unsupported doc on how to deal with this issue.  It's been
done.  It's been done hundreds of times.  Let's document it already and
get it out there.

As to "if you have to ask, then you don't have the skill," I understand
what you're saying, but I don't agree with it.  I'd say "if you don't
understand the process, then don't try it."  Or "If you haven't tested
the process every way back and forth, then don't do it."  Or "Don't you
dare use the new server until you've verified that everything made it
over."

As I said in another post, it's all about those line feeds, and in some
cases the endian issue.  If you know what to do when, you could do it.
All I'm trying to see is if we can get someone to talk about what they
did when to see if we can get this sucker documented.


---
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Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

-Original Message-
From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 6:01 PM
To: Curtis Preston
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Converting catalog form Solaris to Windows
2003

Nice try, but I hope nobody follows the template below.  Having been
heavily involved in a Windows to Solaris migration back in 3.4, I can
tell you it's a lot more complicated than this.  If you have to ask for
how to do this migration, honestly, you don't have the skills to
complete it.  

The short answer is to get professional help.  If you don't know what
you're doing, you'll corrupt the works, lose backups as you revert, and
generally create a huge mess for yourself.  You've got both the image
catalog and the volume database to deal with.  You can't do one without
the other.

Along with the fun stuff that Curtis documented below, you'll run into
files that are over 2GB that unix2dos won't handle, and internal
references to the master server name.  It's non-trivial and you'll watch
NBU break in weird and wonderful ways when you try.  

When we did a *media server* rename with a Level 3 person on site (and
this was on 6.0MP4), it still took us several hours and a call to
engineering before we gave up and left it the old name.

.../Ed
--
Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I GoodSearch for Bundles Of Love:
http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=821118 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:veritas-bu- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Preston
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:47 PM
> To: Akker Henk van den; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Converting catalog form Solaris to Windows
> 2003
> 
> Back to the original question. I think the databases (Sybase/emm, etc)

> would restore just fine, but the text files would have a problem.  So 
> what if you just fixed the text files?
> 
> Although it's unsupported, I'm thinking that it's like the scenario 
> below.  (Test and try at your own risk.  I'm typing from memory/ideas,

> not testing.)
> 
> 1. Load NBU software on the new master 2. Load Unix utilities on the 
> Windows server (you're going to want
them
> anyway)
> 3. Recover the database (don't start the daemons yet) 4. Run a script 
> like the following
> 
> cd 
> find . -print |xargs file |grep text |awk -F: '{print $1}'|while read
i
> do
>   unix2dos $i >$$.$

Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade from 4.5 to 6.1

2007-07-16 Thread mark.a.goodchild
Hi

Yes it is possible.
Ensure the globdb is full consistent on each media server

And

Read this from cover to cover and understand it

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/285590.htm

Cheers  

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Stosic
Sent: 16 July 2007 07:55
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade from 4.5 to 6.1


Hi to all, I have NB 4.5, I was just wandering if it is possible to
upgrade from 4.5 to 6.1 NB. If it is possible, please point me to some
docs, because it seems I can not find any.

Thanks Nemanja


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade from 4.5 to 6.1

2007-07-16 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Morning
Here is an upgrade chart that may be of some use...

http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Ser
ver/287674.pdf

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade from 4.5 to 6.1



Hi to all, I have NB 4.5, I was just wandering if it is possible to upgrade
from 4.5 to 6.1 NB. If it is possible, please point me to some docs, because
it seems I can not find any.

Thanks Nemanja


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[Veritas-bu] Upgrade from 4.5 to 6.1

2007-07-16 Thread Nemanja Stosic

Hi to all, I have NB 4.5, I was just wandering if it is possible to upgrade
from 4.5 to 6.1 NB. If it is possible, please point me to some docs, because
it seems I can not find any.

Thanks Nemanja


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