Re: [Veritas-bu] Flash backup for mount-points Windows 2003
Hello Tom Very intested in what version of Netbackup you're running & how you have set up you VSS & flashbackup Regards Michael 2007/10/22, Hall, Christian N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Excellent. TY > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tburrell > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:04 PM > To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Flash backup for mount-points Windows 2003 > > > Chris, > We set up one mount point as a dedicated caching area, and then let > Window manage it (using VSS). Since we are in a cluster the cache has > to be in the same resource group, but it can be shared by all the other > mount points in that group. Works very well. > > Tom > > > Hall, Christian N. wrote: > > Tom, > > > > Thanks for the information provided, but I have one more question. I > > have 10 - 30 LUNS 272GB in size housing millions of small files (77KB > > size) across 16 windows 2003 media servers. > > > > Did you have a customized dedicated disk caching area or did you have > > Netbackup manage the cache file sizing for you? > > > > Thanks, > > Chris Hall > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > tburrell > > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 3:25 PM > > To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Flash backup for mount-points Windows 2003 > > > > > > Chris, > > we did experience one issue with timeouts for large volumes with > massive > > numbers of small files (ie: 500GB file system at 90% full, average > file > > size 11k), which was resolved back at MP4 for 5.1. Otherwise our > speeds > > have always been significantly better than standard file backups > without > > any special tweaking. We also found that using DSSU's in combination > > with Flashbackup gave the best performance- not really a surprise > there. > > > > > > Of course, if you have mostly empty volumes you pay a huge price in > > terms of size and overall time, but I'm sure you knew that. In > general > > we have found that we get excellent results using the same settings > that > > work best in the rest of the environment. > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > Hall, Christian N. wrote: > > > > > Tom, > > > > > > I had the syntax resolved thanks to all that have responded. > However, > > > > > I > > > > > noticed that my flash-backups speeds are less then traditional > > > > > backups. > > > > > Are you aware of tuning suggestions other then buffer_size and # of > > > buffers available that you have used? Have you experimented with > > > fragment sizes? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Chris Hall > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > > > tburrell > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 2:41 PM > > > To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > > > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Flash backup for mount-points Windows 2003 > > > > > > > > > Chris, > > > To be a little more definitive- 5.1 does support Windows > Flashbackup- > > > it's kind of hidden on the top of page 105 of the "Advanced Client > 5.1 > > > System Administrator's Guide"- they slipped it in as an example in > > > > > step > > > > > 10. > > > > > > We used it extensively (have now upgraded to 6) but it worked very > > > > > well. > > > > > > > > Tom Burrell > > > > > > > > > Hall, Christian N. wrote: > > > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > Veritas Netbackup 5.1MP6 > > > > Master server Solaris 8 > > > > T9940B tape drives X 26 > > > > ACSLS 7.1 > > > > SSO > > > > Windows 2003 media servers X 20 > > > > Emc Symetric storage > > > > EMC Clarrion Storage > > > > EMC 9820-E HBA > > > > Cisco 9513 SAN > > > > Quantum DX-100 VTL > > > > DECRU 1020 > > > > > > > > According to VERITAS published documentation I am reading. > > > > > > > > > > > Fash-backups does not support mount-points on version 5.0. Does this > > > also apply for 5.1? I have not found documentation for 5.1 that says > > > > > the > > > > > contrary. Is there anyone out there that's using flash-backup with > > > mount-points with 5.1? Any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chris Hall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-- > > > > > |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. > > > |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > +-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > > > http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu > > > > > > > > > > +-- > > |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. > > |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +-- > > > >
Re: [Veritas-bu] (no subject)
I believe IBM make some of the following: 3583 - which is a horrible little unit, I've had it drop and mash tapes !!! 3494 and 3584 (TS3500 , there's a new updated model of both of these I believe but I can never keep up with the model numbers, ) These can scale quite a bit but they do get quite long and it's hard to align the rails I believe. Similar issue to the SL8500 when it's fully extended. But appear to be quite robust and popular in the mainframe and sometimes the midrange space. _ From: Sent: None Subject: Since Brocade merged with McData, the only real contenders for the Enterprise space are Brocade and Cisco. I believe QLogic has a "director" class unit, but I don't know how it stacks upfor market share, I would say it's negligable. For the Libraries, I'd think Quantum would likely be in the top 3 with STK, and one of IBM or HP. I haven't looked at IBM or HP's offerings for a while. Is IBM not reselling other manufacturer's libraries? Paul -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peacock Dennis - dpeaco Sent: February 27, 2008 12:35 PM To: Shai Harmelin; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] market coverage of tape libraries and SAN switches I can't speak to the SAN Switch vendorsbut I do know that familiar vendors for tape libraries are Sun/STK, HP, and IBM. Thank You, Dennis Peacock EBCA Acxiom Corporation 501-342-6232 (office) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shai Harmelin Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:50 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] market coverage of tape libraries and SAN switches Hi Everyone, I'm curious if you or anyone on the list can provide some guidance into who are the 3 main SAN switch vendors and who are the 3 main tape library vendors in the enterprise market and how big is their cumulative market share respectively. Thanks for any input. Shai Harmelin | Technical Marketing Engineer Isilon SystemsP +1-206-315-7500 F +1-206-315-7501 www.isilon.com D +1-206-315-7536 How breakthroughs begin. (tm) * The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank you. * La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. <>___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] LTO3 and LTO4 drives in the same tape library - beginners question
Dear NetBackup Gurus, Is it a bad practice to mix LTO3 and LTO4 drives in the same tape library? How I would be able to accommodate such a setup? Page 217 in the NBU Administration Guide http://support.veritas.com/docs/290203 sounds discouraging: = quote == Drives with different densities must be in separate storage units. Consider an STK SL500 library that is configured as a Tape Library DLT (TLD). It can have both half-inch cartridge and DLT drives. Here, you must define a separate storage unit for each density. ===end of quote Thank you, Aleksandr ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO3 and LTO4 drives in the same tape library -beginners question
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy > Is it a bad practice to mix LTO3 and LTO4 drives in the same > tape library? Not at all. > > > How I would be able to accommodate such a setup? As per the technote you posted below. Separate storage Units configured with appropriate unique densities. > > Page 217 in the NBU Administration Guide > http://support.veritas.com/docs/290203 sounds discouraging: > > = quote == > Drives with different densities must be in separate storage units. > Consider an STK SL500 library that is configured as a Tape Library DLT > (TLD). It can have both half-inch cartridge and DLT drives. Here, you > must define a separate storage unit for each density. > ===end of quote > Library != Storage Unit. Do a little more reading to understand the definition of a Storage Unit and how they are used. Paul La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] include_list question
With / as backup selection and follow nfs enabled, using an exclude list on each server you don't want to back it up on will work, thats what we did before using ndmp. Jared M. Seaton Recovery Administrator Mylan Inc. 304-554-5926 304-685-1389 (Cell) "Nathan Kippen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/27/2008 01:37 PM To "Paul Keating" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] include_list question The share is actually on an EMC Celerra device. I suppose I could do a NDMP backup but I was looking for other options. Thanks for your response. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Paul Keating < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You need the path (or a path above it) in your backup selections. the exclude_list will prevent it from being backed up, and the include_list will override a subset of what is excluded in the exclude_list. if it's not in the "backup selections" it won't get backed up, period. However.why back up an NFS share like that anyway? Do you not backup the server that is hosting the share Paul -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nathan Kippen Sent: February 27, 2008 12:22 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] include_list question I have my media & master servers in a single policy. This policy is setup to follow nfs mount points, and each server in the policy has the same nfs mount point mounted. I'm trying to have the backup that runs on my master server to be the only backup for the nfs share. I've built an include_list file on my master server with the nfs mount point listed in it; however, I don't have the nfs mount point listed in my backup selections on my policy. The result is that it's not backing up the nfs share. Do I have to have the nfs share listed in my backup selections in conjunction with the include_list file? The other way I've though about doing this is puting the nfs share in an exclude_list on each of the servers that I don't want the share backed up on. Any thoughts? Thanks La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged, proprietary and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution, duplication or other use of this message and/or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message and its attachments. Thank you. == ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] include_list question
The share is actually on an EMC Celerra device. I suppose I could do a NDMP backup but I was looking for other options. Thanks for your response. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Paul Keating < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You need the path (or a path above it) in your backup selections. > > the exclude_list will prevent it from being backed up, and the > include_list will override a subset of what is excluded in the exclude_list. > > if it's not in the "backup selections" it won't get backed up, period. > > However.why back up an NFS share like that anyway? > Do you not backup the server that is hosting the share > > Paul > > -- > > -Original Message- > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Nathan Kippen > *Sent:* February 27, 2008 12:22 PM > *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] include_list question > > I have my media & master servers in a single policy. This policy is setup > to follow nfs mount points, and each server in the policy has the same nfs > mount point mounted. > > I'm trying to have the backup that runs on my master server to be the only > backup for the nfs share. I've built an include_list file on my master > server with the nfs mount point listed in it; however, I don't have the nfs > mount point listed in my backup selections on my policy. > > The result is that it's not backing up the nfs share. Do I have to have > the nfs share listed in my backup selections in conjunction with the > include_list file? > > The other way I've though about doing this is puting the nfs share in an > exclude_list on each of the servers that I don't want the share backed up > on. > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks > > > > > > La version française suit le texte anglais. > > > > This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the > Bank of > Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying > of this > email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is > unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it > immediately from > your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. > > > > Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou > confidentielle. > La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute > diffusion, > utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par > une > personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous > recevez > ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans > délai à > l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de > votre > ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. > > ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] market coverage of tape libraries and SAN switches
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Shai Harmelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm curious if you or anyone on the list can provide some guidance into > who are the 3 main SAN switch vendors and who are the 3 main tape library > vendors in the enterprise market and how big is their cumulative market > share respectively. > I'll talk to the switch side of things - as a customer, not a vendor. Brocade has traditionally been (by far) the largest edge switch vendor. McData is/was 2nd, and then Qlogic. Brocade has since bought out McData. Qlogic edge switches go into sites where the customers want to do things very cheaply. It's not that the switches are all that bad because I haven't heard that if they are - it's that Qlogic has to compete on price because of the Brocade dominance. On the director side, McData had the numbers for the longest time but Brocade was catching up fast. Before the merger, it was roughly a 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 split between Brocade, McData, and Cisco. Brocade now has 2/3 of the market. >From what I hear, Cisco directors go into sites that are already Cisco shops (or educational institutions that pay a fraction of what commercial customers pay) and at which the network groups manage the SAN. Brocade goes into just about everywhere else. If you're an HP shop, you're adding Brocade gear by default. They sold the McData switches as an afterthought and now sell Cisco gear, but they'll always push Brocade first. For EMC, it was traditionally McData all the way - after all, McData was spun off of EMC in the first place. I don't know what they're doing now - their spec sheets on the "Connectrix" line lists the Brocade equivalents first and then Cisco. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] market coverage of tape libraries and SAN switches
Since Brocade merged with McData, the only real contenders for the Enterprise space are Brocade and Cisco. I believe QLogic has a "director" class unit, but I don't know how it stacks upfor market share, I would say it's negligable. For the Libraries, I'd think Quantum would likely be in the top 3 with STK, and one of IBM or HP. I haven't looked at IBM or HP's offerings for a while. Is IBM not reselling other manufacturer's libraries? Paul -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peacock Dennis - dpeaco Sent: February 27, 2008 12:35 PM To: Shai Harmelin; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] market coverage of tape libraries and SAN switches I can't speak to the SAN Switch vendorsbut I do know that familiar vendors for tape libraries are Sun/STK, HP, and IBM. Thank You, Dennis Peacock EBCA Acxiom Corporation 501-342-6232 (office) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shai Harmelin Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:50 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] market coverage of tape libraries and SAN switches Hi Everyone, I'm curious if you or anyone on the list can provide some guidance into who are the 3 main SAN switch vendors and who are the 3 main tape library vendors in the enterprise market and how big is their cumulative market share respectively. Thanks for any input. Shai Harmelin | Technical Marketing Engineer Isilon SystemsP +1-206-315-7500 F +1-206-315-7501 www.isilon.com D +1-206-315-7536 How breakthroughs begin. (tm) * The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank you. * La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. <>___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] include_list question
I have my media & master servers in a single policy. This policy is setup to follow nfs mount points, and each server in the policy has the same nfs mount point mounted. I'm trying to have the backup that runs on my master server to be the only backup for the nfs share. I've built an include_list file on my master server with the nfs mount point listed in it; however, I don't have the nfs mount point listed in my backup selections on my policy. The result is that it's not backing up the nfs share. Do I have to have the nfs share listed in my backup selections in conjunction with the include_list file? The other way I've though about doing this is puting the nfs share in an exclude_list on each of the servers that I don't want the share backed up on. Any thoughts? Thanks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] include_list question
You need the path (or a path above it) in your backup selections. the exclude_list will prevent it from being backed up, and the include_list will override a subset of what is excluded in the exclude_list. if it's not in the "backup selections" it won't get backed up, period. However.why back up an NFS share like that anyway? Do you not backup the server that is hosting the share Paul -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nathan Kippen Sent: February 27, 2008 12:22 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] include_list question I have my media & master servers in a single policy. This policy is setup to follow nfs mount points, and each server in the policy has the same nfs mount point mounted. I'm trying to have the backup that runs on my master server to be the only backup for the nfs share. I've built an include_list file on my master server with the nfs mount point listed in it; however, I don't have the nfs mount point listed in my backup selections on my policy. The result is that it's not backing up the nfs share. Do I have to have the nfs share listed in my backup selections in conjunction with the include_list file? The other way I've though about doing this is puting the nfs share in an exclude_list on each of the servers that I don't want the share backed up on. Any thoughts? Thanks La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Overland Neo tape libraries -- Any good?
I have a Neo 8000, and aside from a minor installation glitz where one of the ribbon cables on the handler was positioned incorrectly, it's been running flawlessly for 9 months. Overland's service has been great. The Neo replaced an older Qualstar TLS model library. We've been a Qualstar customer for years and we still own 2 other smaller TLS libraries. When we purchased the Neo, it was a toss up between that and the XLS from Qualstar. The Neo won out mostly because it fit better into our Comm room. HTH, Neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jond Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 6:41 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Overland Neo tape libraries -- Any good? I'm researching tape libraries, and I'm looking at the Overland Neo 2000 tape library and the SUN STK SL48. Any words of wisdom? Any personal experience? I'm also curious to hear from people who have different Overland Neo models. Are they well build? Is their tech support decent? Any driver or compatibility issues(specifically with Netbackup)? Thanks in advance, Jon ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] market coverage of tape libraries and SAN switches
I can't speak to the SAN Switch vendorsbut I do know that familiar vendors for tape libraries are Sun/STK, HP, and IBM. Thank You, Dennis Peacock EBCA Acxiom Corporation 501-342-6232 (office) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shai Harmelin Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:50 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] market coverage of tape libraries and SAN switches Hi Everyone, I'm curious if you or anyone on the list can provide some guidance into who are the 3 main SAN switch vendors and who are the 3 main tape library vendors in the enterprise market and how big is their cumulative market share respectively. Thanks for any input. Shai Harmelin | Technical Marketing Engineer Isilon SystemsP +1-206-315-7500 F +1-206-315-7501 www.isilon.com D +1-206-315-7536 How breakthroughs begin. (tm) * The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. Thank you. * <>___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Device Configuration in a Cluster
I believe that you DO still need to configure the devices on both nodes, even if the device configuration is identical. I think NetBackup uses the drive serial number to determine which drive is which. We're doing a new library/drive implementation, and I had to fail Netbackup between the servers to delete the old drives even though the device config was the same (simplifies admin to keep them that way). I believe that the EMM database keeps separate device configs for each node in the cluster, even if they are the same. Back in the pre 5.x days when the whole enchilada (application and catalogs) failed over, you HAD to have indentical drive configs of all cluster nodes. Jack L. Forester, Jr. UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf Lockheed Martin Information Technology (304) 625-3946 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Keating Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:59 AM To: Esson, Paul; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Device Configuration in a Cluster Discalimer: I haven't implemented the exact scenario you are describing (SF-HA on Sol-10), but have kludged something similar. you need to configure your drives to the OS so that the drive config is common on each node. NBU doesn't care too much about the actual PCI device path, but rather just the drive index (it's location in the library) and the device file name. Normally when you "discover" your tape devices, the OS numbers them, as /dev/rmt/0cbn, 1cbn, 2cbn, etcso when you configure the second box, it will reorder the numbers. you can "hardcode" the correlation between the device and the /dev/rmt entry in your /etc/devlink.tab so that /dev/rmt/0cbn on node A is the same drive as on node B. Once this is done, there isn't even any need to failover to the second node and reconfig, as the config from node A will be applicable to node B as well. Paul -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Esson, Paul Sent: February 27, 2008 9:32 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Device Configuration in a Cluster Folks, I am looking for advice/understanding of device configuration in a cluster scenario. My specifics are Solaris 10 Master/Media with NetBackup 6.5 atop Storage Foundation HA in a two node topology. The robot is a Quantum Scalar i2000 with FC drives. The only reference I can find suggests configuring the devices through the wizard on the active node then failing the service over to the other node and repeating the exercise. However I am struggling to understand how both sets of information are maintained in the EMM? Regards, Paul Esson Redstor Limited Direct: +44 (0) 1224 595381 Mobile: +44 (0) 7766 906514 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:www.redstor.com REDSTOR LIMITED Torridon House 73-75 Regent Quay Aberdeen UK AB11 5AR Disclaimer: The information included in this e-mail is of a confidential nature and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, any disclosure, copying or distribution by you is prohibited and may be unlawful. Disclosure to any party other than the addressee, whether inadvertent or otherwise is not intended to waive privilege or confidentiality. La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.au
Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Device Configuration in a Cluster
Thanks Jack. good to know EMM may handle it better than pre 6.x, however, the drive serial numbers should not change, unless we're talking about a separate node accessing a different library, which would create a whole 'nuther set of challenges for a simple "failover". -- -Original Message- From: Forester, Jack L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 27, 2008 12:21 PM To: Paul Keating; Esson, Paul; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Device Configuration in a Cluster I believe that you DO still need to configure the devices on both nodes, even if the device configuration is identical. I think NetBackup uses the drive serial number to determine which drive is which. We're doing a new library/drive implementation, and I had to fail Netbackup between the servers to delete the old drives even though the device config was the same (simplifies admin to keep them that way). I believe that the EMM database keeps separate device configs for each node in the cluster, even if they are the same. Back in the pre 5.x days when the whole enchilada (application and catalogs) failed over, you HAD to have indentical drive configs of all cluster nodes. La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] market coverage of tape libraries and SAN switches
Hi Everyone, I'm curious if you or anyone on the list can provide some guidance into who are the 3 main SAN switch vendors and who are the 3 main tape library vendors in the enterprise market and how big is their cumulative market share respectively. Thanks for any input. Shai Harmelin | Technical Marketing Engineer Isilon SystemsP +1-206-315-7500 F +1-206-315-7501 www.isilon.com D +1-206-315-7536 How breakthroughs begin. (tm) <>___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Device Configuration in a Cluster
Discalimer: I haven't implemented the exact scenario you are describing (SF-HA on Sol-10), but have kludged something similar. you need to configure your drives to the OS so that the drive config is common on each node. NBU doesn't care too much about the actual PCI device path, but rather just the drive index (it's location in the library) and the device file name. Normally when you "discover" your tape devices, the OS numbers them, as /dev/rmt/0cbn, 1cbn, 2cbn, etcso when you configure the second box, it will reorder the numbers. you can "hardcode" the correlation between the device and the /dev/rmt entry in your /etc/devlink.tab so that /dev/rmt/0cbn on node A is the same drive as on node B. Once this is done, there isn't even any need to failover to the second node and reconfig, as the config from node A will be applicable to node B as well. Paul -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Esson, Paul Sent: February 27, 2008 9:32 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Device Configuration in a Cluster Folks, I am looking for advice/understanding of device configuration in a cluster scenario. My specifics are Solaris 10 Master/Media with NetBackup 6.5 atop Storage Foundation HA in a two node topology. The robot is a Quantum Scalar i2000 with FC drives. The only reference I can find suggests configuring the devices through the wizard on the active node then failing the service over to the other node and repeating the exercise. However I am struggling to understand how both sets of information are maintained in the EMM? Regards, Paul Esson Redstor Limited Direct: +44 (0) 1224 595381 Mobile: +44 (0) 7766 906514 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:www.redstor.com REDSTOR LIMITED Torridon House 73-75 Regent Quay Aberdeen UK AB11 5AR Disclaimer: The information included in this e-mail is of a confidential nature and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, any disclosure, copying or distribution by you is prohibited and may be unlawful. Disclosure to any party other than the addressee, whether inadvertent or otherwise is not intended to waive privilege or confidentiality. La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NetBackup Device Configuration in a Cluster
Folks, I am looking for advice/understanding of device configuration in a cluster scenario. My specifics are Solaris 10 Master/Media with NetBackup 6.5 atop Storage Foundation HA in a two node topology. The robot is a Quantum Scalar i2000 with FC drives. The only reference I can find suggests configuring the devices through the wizard on the active node then failing the service over to the other node and repeating the exercise. However I am struggling to understand how both sets of information are maintained in the EMM? Regards, Paul Esson Redstor Limited Direct: +44 (0) 1224 595381 Mobile: +44 (0) 7766 906514 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:www.redstor.com REDSTOR LIMITED Torridon House 73-75 Regent Quay Aberdeen UK AB11 5AR Disclaimer: The information included in this e-mail is of a confidential nature and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, any disclosure, copying or distribution by you is prohibited and may be unlawful. Disclosure to any party other than the addressee, whether inadvertent or otherwise is not intended to waive privilege or confidentiality. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
