Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ESX3

2008-03-24 Thread Curtis Preston
I actually think it was the filelist entry and not the shutting down
that made it work.  Did you try the changed filelist with the systems
up?  (You do need to snapshot them, though.)

 

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From: Anas Kayal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:50 AM
To: Curtis Preston; Martin, Jonathan; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ESX3

 

Curtis you were right. I had to shut down the VM's first before doing
the backup. I put a direct link to the /volumes directory in the file
list but I think it should also work with a full / backup if all the
VM's are down. Now does anyone have a script that I can run directly on
ESX host that automatically shuts down the VM's prior to backup and
brings them back up after? 

 

 

From: Curtis Preston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 6:45 AM
To: Martin, Jonathan; Anas Kayal; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ESX3

 

You do not have to use VCB to back up VMware.  The way Anas is trying to
do it is supported.  Each method has advantages and disadvantages.  This
method will have all full backups and you have to figure out how to
snapshot the vmdk files.

 

I believe the only problem is that the VMFS filesystem isn't being
auto-discovered.  

 

Anas, have you put the /volumes mount point in the file list?

 

Also, make sure that you snapshot the vmdk files first.  I found this
preso that speaks to it:

 

http://download3.vmware.com/vmworld/2006/tac9912.pdf

 

 

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Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 1:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up ESX3

 

The Virtual Machines are stored on a VMFS (Virtual Machine File System)
which Netbackup doesn't understand.  Its a proprietary format developed
by VMWare for use in ESX Server (its got advanced capabilities like
journaling.)  To backup Virtual Machines via the .vmdk you need to use
their consolidated backup piece and be running 6.5 on a server which can
mount the storage. (SAN only I think, I don't think Consolidated Backup
supports iSCSI.)  Alternately (if you are not using shared storage) you
can use the built in tools on the ESX server to export the virtual
machines to an ext3 partition that the client can read.

 

-Jonathan

 



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I have a growing VMware ESX farm and have deployed NBU 6 agent on the
COS of ESX. When I do a full backup I don't seem to get the VMDK files
of the Virtual Machines. What am I doing wrong?



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[Veritas-bu] Job per day per master server?

2008-03-24 Thread Bancal

Well, we've got a single SF V490 master server and 4 media servers. We 
extensively use multistreaming and multiplexing and have got about 200 Oracle 
instances to back up. 
As a result we have 
1) 8000 to 1 jobs a day 
2) 30Tb of backup traffic on workday and up to 70-80 Tb on weekend

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[Veritas-bu] VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

2008-03-24 Thread Keating, John
Does anyone know how to quickly specify a certain tape for my catalog
backups?

 

We use Veritas 6.5 on windows 2003 server w/ a Quantum M1500 LTO1 tape
library.

 

Thanks for your help.

 

John Keating

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

2008-03-24 Thread rascal
Are you talking about assigning it to the catalog backup pool?

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  Does anyone know how to quickly specify a certain tape for my catalog
 backups?



 We use Veritas 6.5 on windows 2003 server w/ a Quantum M1500 LTO1 tape
 library.



 Thanks for your help.



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Re: [Veritas-bu] folders files not backing up

2008-03-24 Thread Bobby R Windle
I'm running Netbackup Enterprise 6.5.1 under Solaris 10.  Recently I found 
a folder and every folder  file under it, is not backing up.
I using ALL_LOCAL_ DRIVES for the selection lists. Also I just found a 
windows server that also is missing folders  files from backups.

On the Solaris server, if I do a selective directory backup of the missing 
folder(s), it works. Any ideas. This has me worried...

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Re: [Veritas-bu] folders files not backing up

2008-03-24 Thread Mark.Donaldson
There's two obvious things to check.
 
Local drives means local - it's not crossing network mounts  - check
for that.
 
exclusion lists in /usr/openv/netbackup, exclude_list*
 
how are you doing a selective backup?
 



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I'm running Netbackup Enterprise 6.5.1 under Solaris 10.  Recently I
found a folder and every folder  file under it, is not backing up. 
I using ALL_LOCAL_ DRIVES for the selection lists. Also I just found a
windows server that also is missing folders  files from backups. 

On the Solaris server, if I do a selective directory backup of the
missing folder(s), it works. Any ideas. This has me worried... 

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
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Re: [Veritas-bu] folders files not backing up

2008-03-24 Thread Bobby R Windle
Thanks for the response.. 

On the Solaris server it is skipping a folder under the /opt directory. 
There are 15 - 20 other folders under /opt that are backing
up just fine. I changed permission on the folder that is getting skipped 
to 777 and it still ignores it.

On one of the windows server I found ( but not fully researched) it skips 
everything under the root folders of local E:\ drive. It creates
the folders but skips every thing under. this could be something 
else.. The Solaris server makes no sense as I can do a 
selective backup of just that directory and it backs everything up. When I 
do ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES it has the problem.

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Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
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There's two obvious things to check.
 
Local drives means local - it's not crossing network mounts  - check for 
that.
 
exclusion lists in /usr/openv/netbackup, exclude_list*
 
how are you doing a selective backup?
 

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Windle
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] folders  files not backing up


I'm running Netbackup Enterprise 6.5.1 under Solaris 10.  Recently I found 
a folder and every folder  file under it, is not backing up. 
I using ALL_LOCAL_ DRIVES for the selection lists. Also I just found a 
windows server that also is missing folders  files from backups. 

On the Solaris server, if I do a selective directory backup of the missing 
folder(s), it works. Any ideas. This has me worried... 

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
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Re: [Veritas-bu] folders files not backing up

2008-03-24 Thread Ed Wilts
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Bobby R Windle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On the Solaris server it is skipping a folder under the /opt directory.
 There are 15 - 20 other folders under /opt that are backing
 up just fine. I changed permission on the folder that is getting skipped
 to 777 and it still ignores it.


Check to see if it's on the same file system or not.  On Unix systems, you
want to be really careful if you enable Cross mount points since links
across file systems are very common.


 On one of the windows server I found ( but not fully researched) it skips
 everything under the root folders of local E:\ drive. It creates
 the folders but skips every thing under. this could be something
 else.. The Solaris server makes no sense as I can do a
 selective backup of just that directory and it backs everything up. When I
 do ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES it has the problem.


This may be a cross mount points problem.  We have a standard practice of
mounting up a sliver and then mounting file systems under it.  A backup of
the sliver gets just the empty directory unless we enable Cross mount
points.

Whenever I've seen NetBackup skip a file system, it's invariably my fault,
not NetBackup's.

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] folders files not backing up

2008-03-24 Thread Mark.Donaldson
Permissions on the folder shouldn't be it - it should run as root on
solaris (and the administrator account on NT) so that's not usually a
problem.  Besides, you'll get a status code 1 on folders skipped for
permission issues.
 
What's your df -k output look like from your Solaris box?  Do you have
exclusions files? ls /usr/openv/netbackup/exclude*



From: Bobby R Windle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] folders  files not backing up



Thanks for the response..   

On the Solaris server it is skipping a folder under the /opt directory.
There are 15 - 20 other folders under /opt that are backing 
up just fine. I changed permission on the folder that is getting skipped
to 777 and it still ignores it. 

On one of the windows server I found ( but not fully researched) it
skips everything under the root folders of local E:\ drive. It creates 
the folders but skips every thing under. this could be something
else.. The Solaris server makes no sense as I can do a 
selective backup of just that directory and it backs everything up. When
I do ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES it has the problem. 

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
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03/24/2008 11:25 AM 

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There's two obvious things to check. 
  
Local drives means local - it's not crossing network mounts  - check
for that. 
  
exclusion lists in /usr/openv/netbackup, exclude_list* 
  
how are you doing a selective backup? 
  




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Windle
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 9:14 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] folders  files not backing up


I'm running Netbackup Enterprise 6.5.1 under Solaris 10.  Recently I
found a folder and every folder  file under it, is not backing up. 
I using ALL_LOCAL_ DRIVES for the selection lists. Also I just found a
windows server that also is missing folders  files from backups. 

On the Solaris server, if I do a selective directory backup of the
missing folder(s), it works. Any ideas. This has me worried... 

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
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Re: [Veritas-bu] folders files not backing up

2008-03-24 Thread Mark.Donaldson
Oh - another idea?  Is the directory under /opt a link?
 
ls -ld /opt/skippped name
 
Netbackup does not follow links.
 
My thinking this is an error in perception, rather than a technical
problem.  Your use of the word folder rather than directory for
solaris makes me think you are perhaps a Windows person with Unix as
your second language?



From: Bobby R Windle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] folders  files not backing up



Thanks for the response..   

On the Solaris server it is skipping a folder under the /opt directory.
There are 15 - 20 other folders under /opt that are backing 
up just fine. I changed permission on the folder that is getting skipped
to 777 and it still ignores it. 

On one of the windows server I found ( but not fully researched) it
skips everything under the root folders of local E:\ drive. It creates 
the folders but skips every thing under. this could be something
else.. The Solaris server makes no sense as I can do a 
selective backup of just that directory and it backs everything up. When
I do ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES it has the problem. 

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.gore.com




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03/24/2008 11:25 AM 

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There's two obvious things to check. 
  
Local drives means local - it's not crossing network mounts  - check
for that. 
  
exclusion lists in /usr/openv/netbackup, exclude_list* 
  
how are you doing a selective backup? 
  




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Windle
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 9:14 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] folders  files not backing up


I'm running Netbackup Enterprise 6.5.1 under Solaris 10.  Recently I
found a folder and every folder  file under it, is not backing up. 
I using ALL_LOCAL_ DRIVES for the selection lists. Also I just found a
windows server that also is missing folders  files from backups. 

On the Solaris server, if I do a selective directory backup of the
missing folder(s), it works. Any ideas. This has me worried... 

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.gore.com 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups

2008-03-24 Thread Mark.Donaldson
While this is true - it's a statement of fact, almost half an
advertisement, and not really a response to the OP.  Is this some sort
of Bot? 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] folders files not backing up

2008-03-24 Thread Ed Wilts
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Permissions on the folder shouldn't be it - it should run as root on
 solaris (and the administrator account on NT)


Small nitpick here - it runs as local user SYSTEM, not Administrator.  You
can restrict folder access to this user, but that would be extremely rare.

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] folders files not backing up

2008-03-24 Thread Mark.Donaldson
Ah!
 
Well, I've just demonstrated that Windows is my second-language
 
;)



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] folders  files not backing up


On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Permissions on the folder shouldn't be it - it should run as
root on solaris (and the administrator account on NT) 


Small nitpick here - it runs as local user SYSTEM, not Administrator.
You can restrict folder access to this user, but that would be extremely
rare.

   .../Ed
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] folders files not backing up

2008-03-24 Thread Bobby R Windle
sorry..
Yes directory. All operating systems but some more than others.. 

No it is not a link. That was the first thing I checked. Non of the 
directories under /opt are links...
Just makes no sense why a slective backup of just the missing directory 
works. Even using same policy just modifying the file selection from 
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES to /opt./(directory name) works..


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Oh - another idea?  Is the directory under /opt a link?
 
ls -ld /opt/skippped name
 
Netbackup does not follow links.
 
My thinking this is an error in perception, rather than a technical 
problem.  Your use of the word folder rather than directory for 
solaris makes me think you are perhaps a Windows person with Unix as your 
second language?

From: Bobby R Windle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] folders  files not backing up


Thanks for the response..   

On the Solaris server it is skipping a folder under the /opt directory. 
There are 15 - 20 other folders under /opt that are backing 
up just fine. I changed permission on the folder that is getting skipped 
to 777 and it still ignores it. 

On one of the windows server I found ( but not fully researched) it skips 
everything under the root folders of local E:\ drive. It creates 
the folders but skips every thing under. this could be something 
else.. The Solaris server makes no sense as I can do a 
selective backup of just that directory and it backs everything up. When I 
do ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES it has the problem. 

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.gore.com



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There's two obvious things to check. 
  
Local drives means local - it's not crossing network mounts  - check for 
that. 
  
exclusion lists in /usr/openv/netbackup, exclude_list* 
  
how are you doing a selective backup? 
 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby R 
Windle
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 9:14 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] folders  files not backing up


I'm running Netbackup Enterprise 6.5.1 under Solaris 10.  Recently I found 
a folder and every folder  file under it, is not backing up. 
I using ALL_LOCAL_ DRIVES for the selection lists. Also I just found a 
windows server that also is missing folders  files from backups. 

On the Solaris server, if I do a selective directory backup of the missing 
folder(s), it works. Any ideas. This has me worried... 

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.gore.com 
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[Veritas-bu] Assign catalog tape

2008-03-24 Thread A Darren Dunham
(changing subject line)

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 10:19:45AM -0400, Keating, John wrote:
 Does anyone know how to quickly specify a certain tape for my catalog
 backups?

Cold or hot?

Cold you'd use 'bpsyncinfo' or configure catalog backups from the GUI.

Hot you'd need to assign a tape into the pool used by the catalog backup
(and make sure no other tapes were in the pool).

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Re: [Veritas-bu] folders files not backing up

2008-03-24 Thread Mark.Donaldson
Is it a mountpoint or just a simple directory under /opt?
 
Can you post the output of df -k?



From: Bobby R Windle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO
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sorry.. 
Yes directory. All operating systems but some more than others..   

No it is not a link. That was the first thing I checked. Non of the
directories under /opt are links... 
Just makes no sense why a slective backup of just the missing directory
works. Even using same policy just modifying the file selection from 
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES to /opt./(directory name) works.. 


Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
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Oh - another idea?  Is the directory under /opt a link? 
  
ls -ld /opt/skippped name 
  
Netbackup does not follow links. 
  
My thinking this is an error in perception, rather than a technical
problem.  Your use of the word folder rather than directory for
solaris makes me think you are perhaps a Windows person with Unix as
your second language? 




From: Bobby R Windle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 10:27 AM
To: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] folders  files not backing up


Thanks for the response..   

On the Solaris server it is skipping a folder under the /opt directory.
There are 15 - 20 other folders under /opt that are backing 
up just fine. I changed permission on the folder that is getting skipped
to 777 and it still ignores it. 

On one of the windows server I found ( but not fully researched) it
skips everything under the root folders of local E:\ drive. It creates 
the folders but skips every thing under. this could be something
else.. The Solaris server makes no sense as I can do a 
selective backup of just that directory and it backs everything up. When
I do ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES it has the problem. 

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
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There's two obvious things to check. 
 
Local drives means local - it's not crossing network mounts  - check
for that. 
 
exclusion lists in /usr/openv/netbackup, exclude_list* 
 
how are you doing a selective backup? 
 




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Windle
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 9:14 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] folders  files not backing up


I'm running Netbackup Enterprise 6.5.1 under Solaris 10.  Recently I
found a folder and every folder  file under it, is not backing up. 
I using ALL_LOCAL_ DRIVES for the selection lists. Also I just found a
windows server that also is missing folders  files from backups. 

On the Solaris server, if I do a selective directory backup of the
missing folder(s), it works. Any ideas. This has me worried... 

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.gore.com 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] folders files not backing up

2008-03-24 Thread Jeff Lightner
I guess you've ruled out an exclude list in your installpath/netbackup
directory for this specific policy? 

 

Here we have some default exclude lists we push out and I'm wondering if
maybe you have one that is excluding this because it is an NFS mount
somewhere else?

 



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Is it a mountpoint or just a simple directory under /opt?

 

Can you post the output of df -k?

 



From: Bobby R Windle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 11:13 AM
To: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] folders  files not backing up


sorry.. 
Yes directory. All operating systems but some more than others..   

No it is not a link. That was the first thing I checked. Non of the
directories under /opt are links... 
Just makes no sense why a slective backup of just the missing directory
works. Even using same policy just modifying the file selection from 
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES to /opt./(directory name) works.. 


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Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
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Oh - another idea?  Is the directory under /opt a link? 
  
ls -ld /opt/skippped name 
  
Netbackup does not follow links. 
  
My thinking this is an error in perception, rather than a technical
problem.  Your use of the word folder rather than directory for
solaris makes me think you are perhaps a Windows person with Unix as
your second language? 



From: Bobby R Windle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 10:27 AM
To: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] folders  files not backing up


Thanks for the response..   

On the Solaris server it is skipping a folder under the /opt directory.
There are 15 - 20 other folders under /opt that are backing 
up just fine. I changed permission on the folder that is getting skipped
to 777 and it still ignores it. 

On one of the windows server I found ( but not fully researched) it
skips everything under the root folders of local E:\ drive. It creates 
the folders but skips every thing under. this could be something
else.. The Solaris server makes no sense as I can do a 
selective backup of just that directory and it backs everything up. When
I do ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES it has the problem. 

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.gore.com



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RE: [Veritas-bu] folders  files not backing up

 

 

 





There's two obvious things to check. 
 
Local drives means local - it's not crossing network mounts  - check
for that. 
 
exclusion lists in /usr/openv/netbackup, exclude_list* 
 
how are you doing a selective backup? 
 



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Windle
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 9:14 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] folders  files not backing up


I'm running Netbackup Enterprise 6.5.1 under Solaris 10.  Recently I
found a folder and every folder  file under it, is not backing up. 
I using ALL_LOCAL_ DRIVES for the selection lists. Also I just found a
windows server that also is missing folders  files from backups. 

On the Solaris server, if I do a selective directory backup of the
missing folder(s), it works. Any ideas. This has me worried... 

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore  associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
work: 302 292 4026
cell  : 302 588 7374
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.gore.com
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[Veritas-bu] Disk and Media Manager Storage Units and error 84 (media write error) - beginners question (NetBackup 3.4 on Solaris 8)

2008-03-24 Thread Andrey Halezov
Dear NetBackup Gurus!

I have setup several 34G disks mounted as
/backupdisk_1, /backupdisk_2, /backupdisk_3 and etc... Each mount point
becomes a separate Disk Storage Unit. I also have a Media Manager Storage
Unit - DLT tape library with 20 tapes.

All my backup classes are setup with property Storage_Unit set to any
available.


  Expectation
===
To continue backup on the next Storage Unit (Disk or Media Manager,
whichever has space available) after one of the Storage Units fills up.


  Actually happens
===
The backup doesn't switch to the next Storage Unit.
I get error 84 (media write error) when the hard drive mounted under
/backupdisk_n fills up. The backup keeps trying to use the same Storage Unit
each time getting error 84 (while there is space available on the other Disk
Storage Units and Media Manager Storage Unit)


Looks like NetBackup chooses Storage Unit for the job and doesn't change to
different one after the chosen Storage Unit fills up.
Is there a way to fix my setup?


Thank you,
Andrey
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk and Media Manager Storage Units and error 84(media write error) - beginners question (NetBackup 3.4 onSolaris 8)

2008-03-24 Thread Cornely, David
I don't know of any way to do what you want to do with Netbackup, and
you have more limitations in NBU3.4 compared to the current version.
Then again, you could do a search on Symantec's support site:
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index.jsp

 

I recommend creating a striped volume using a volume management tool
(Symantec Volume Manager or Solaris Disk Suite) to group all your 34GB
drives together into one large volume/storage unit.  If you want
protection for this storage unit against a disk failure then go with
RAID1+0 or RAID5 (although RAID5 could slow down your backups due to
parity calculations).  You could also create smaller stripe sets/storage
units if needed; it really depends upon your needs.

 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrey
Halezov
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 16:43
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Disk and Media Manager Storage Units and error
84(media write error) - beginners question (NetBackup 3.4 onSolaris 8)

 

Dear NetBackup Gurus!

 

I have setup several 34G disks mounted as /backupdisk_1, /backupdisk_2,
/backupdisk_3 and etc... Each mount point becomes a separate Disk
Storage Unit. I also have a Media Manager Storage Unit - DLT tape
library with 20 tapes.

 

All my backup classes are setup with property Storage_Unit set to any
available. 

 

 

  Expectation

===

To continue backup on the next Storage Unit (Disk or Media Manager,
whichever has space available) after one of the Storage Units fills up.

 

 

 Actually happens

===

The backup doesn't switch to the next Storage Unit. 

I get error 84 (media write error) when the hard drive mounted under
/backupdisk_n fills up. The backup keeps trying to use the same Storage
Unit each time getting error 84 (while there is space available on the
other Disk Storage Units and Media Manager Storage Unit)

 

 

Looks like NetBackup chooses Storage Unit for the job and doesn't change
to different one after the chosen Storage Unit fills up.

Is there a way to fix my setup?

 

 

Thank you,

Andrey

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Re: [Veritas-bu] full DSUs in old NBU revs (was: something longer)

2008-03-24 Thread bob944
 I have setup several 34G disks mounted as /backupdisk_1,
 /backupdisk_2, /backupdisk_3 and etc... Each mount point
 becomes a separate Disk Storage Unit. I also have a Media 
 Manager Storage Unit - DLT tape library with 20 tapes.
 
 All my backup classes are setup with property Storage_Unit 
 set to any available.
 
   Expectation
 ===
 To continue backup on the next Storage Unit (Disk or Media Manager,
 whichever has space available) after one of the Storage Units 
 fills up.

Many users (myself included) somehow assumed that DSUs would work that
way when they were introduced.  They don't.  DSUs and STUG[roup]s get
smarter every release, though; this is the default setting for 6.5
STUGs:

Prioritized
NetBackup chooses the first storage unit in the list that is not busy,
down, or out of media. Also, the storage unit must not have reached the
maximum concurrent jobs setting. When one of the specified conditions
occurs, the next storage unit in the list is examined until NetBackup
finds an available storage unit. If one is not available or if one does
not have enough available space, the job fails and is not queued.
(Default.)

 Looks like NetBackup chooses Storage Unit for the job and 
 doesn't change to different one after the chosen Storage
 Unit fills up.
 Is there a way to fix my setup?

If you're expecting a job, a stream, to start on one STU, then continue
on another, that's not going to happen (unless it's a new 6.5 thing and
someone will correct me if that's the case)--you aren't going to write a
40GB backup to 34GB STUs, no matter how many you have.  You may need to
adjust your understanding of what a storage unit is.  As
[EMAIL PROTECTED] points out in his reply, combining your 34GB
disks into larger volumes makes them both more usable and more robust.



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Re: [Veritas-bu] full DSUs in old NBU revs (was: something longer)

2008-03-24 Thread Curtis Preston
I'm almost positive that 6.5 supports DSU cascading in a single job,
just like tape and virtual tape.

---
W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:veritas-bu-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob944
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 8:00 PM
 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] full DSUs in old NBU revs (was: something
 longer)
 
  I have setup several 34G disks mounted as /backupdisk_1,
  /backupdisk_2, /backupdisk_3 and etc... Each mount point
  becomes a separate Disk Storage Unit. I also have a Media
  Manager Storage Unit - DLT tape library with 20 tapes.
 
  All my backup classes are setup with property Storage_Unit
  set to any available.
 
Expectation
  ===
  To continue backup on the next Storage Unit (Disk or Media Manager,
  whichever has space available) after one of the Storage Units
  fills up.
 
 Many users (myself included) somehow assumed that DSUs would work that
 way when they were introduced.  They don't.  DSUs and STUG[roup]s get
 smarter every release, though; this is the default setting for 6.5
 STUGs:
 
 Prioritized
 NetBackup chooses the first storage unit in the list that is not busy,
 down, or out of media. Also, the storage unit must not have reached
the
 maximum concurrent jobs setting. When one of the specified conditions
 occurs, the next storage unit in the list is examined until NetBackup
 finds an available storage unit. If one is not available or if one
does
 not have enough available space, the job fails and is not queued.
 (Default.)
 
  Looks like NetBackup chooses Storage Unit for the job and
  doesn't change to different one after the chosen Storage
  Unit fills up.
  Is there a way to fix my setup?
 
 If you're expecting a job, a stream, to start on one STU, then
continue
 on another, that's not going to happen (unless it's a new 6.5 thing
and
 someone will correct me if that's the case)--you aren't going to write
a
 40GB backup to 34GB STUs, no matter how many you have.  You may need
to
 adjust your understanding of what a storage unit is.  As
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] points out in his reply, combining your 34GB
 disks into larger volumes makes them both more usable and more robust.
 
 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] folders files not backing up

2008-03-24 Thread bob944
 Just makes no sense why a slective backup of just the missing 
 directory works. Even using same policy just modifying the
 file selection from ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES to /opt./(directory name) works..

You've looked at the bpbkar log for the processing of the selection
list, plus excludes and includes that modify it?



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