[Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 - solaris 10

2008-04-14 Thread Clooney, David
Hi all
 
I have just been delivered a new Solaris 10 media server.
 
As this is the first Solaris 10 media server in our environment, can
anyone point out any pitfalls that differ from solaris 8 regarding the
installation.
 
Regards
 
Dave



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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 - solaris 10

2008-04-14 Thread Justin Piszcz


On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Clooney, David wrote:

 Hi all

 I have just been delivered a new Solaris 10 media server.

 As this is the first Solaris 10 media server in our environment, can
 anyone point out any pitfalls that differ from solaris 8 regarding the
 installation.

None that I can think of, I remember upgrading from Solaris to 10 and some 
of my older 1gbps fiber cards no longer worked, but the good thing with 
Solaris 10 is many of tunables in /etc/system (for solaris 8) are not 
needed with Solaris 10, what type of HW is it running on?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 - solaris 10

2008-04-14 Thread Clooney, David
 Thanks Justin

V440 server (4 CPU, 8GB, 2 x Gb network)

Regards

Dave

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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Clooney, David wrote:

 Hi all

 I have just been delivered a new Solaris 10 media server.

 As this is the first Solaris 10 media server in our environment, can 
 anyone point out any pitfalls that differ from solaris 8 regarding the

 installation.

None that I can think of, I remember upgrading from Solaris to 10 and
some of my older 1gbps fiber cards no longer worked, but the good thing
with Solaris 10 is many of tunables in /etc/system (for solaris 8) are
not needed with Solaris 10, what type of HW is it running on?




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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 - solaris 10

2008-04-14 Thread Justin Piszcz
Get out :)

That is the same type of host I used to use except it had 14GiB of RAM, 
used it as a master+media server combo, it worked well.

Justin.

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Clooney, David wrote:

 Thanks Justin

 V440 server (4 CPU, 8GB, 2 x Gb network)

 Regards

 Dave

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 On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Clooney, David wrote:

 Hi all

 I have just been delivered a new Solaris 10 media server.

 As this is the first Solaris 10 media server in our environment, can
 anyone point out any pitfalls that differ from solaris 8 regarding the

 installation.

 None that I can think of, I remember upgrading from Solaris to 10 and
 some of my older 1gbps fiber cards no longer worked, but the good thing
 with Solaris 10 is many of tunables in /etc/system (for solaris 8) are
 not needed with Solaris 10, what type of HW is it running on?




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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5 - solaris 10

2008-04-14 Thread Paul Keating
Research tcp fusion

http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/285057.htm
http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/284421.htm

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 On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Clooney, David wrote:
 
  Hi all
 
  I have just been delivered a new Solaris 10 media server.
 
  As this is the first Solaris 10 media server in our environment, can
  anyone point out any pitfalls that differ from solaris 8 
 regarding the
  installation.
 
 None that I can think of, I remember upgrading from Solaris 
 to 10 and some 
 of my older 1gbps fiber cards no longer worked, but the good 
 thing with 
 Solaris 10 is many of tunables in /etc/system (for solaris 8) are not 
 needed with Solaris 10, what type of HW is it running on?
 
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[Veritas-bu] Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs setting (runs one job at a time)

2008-04-14 Thread Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
Dear All,

For my Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs setting is set to 3.

I have 3 classes with Class Storage Unit property pointing to the
Disk Storage Unit. Jobs are being queued, but only one job runs at a
time.

Running NetBackup 3.4 Solaris 8.

Thank you,
Aleksandr
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs setting (runs one job at a time)

2008-04-14 Thread Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
Steve,
Thank you for your answer.
I do have Allow multiple data streams set to Yes for every class.
As far as I understand - this setting affects NetBackup's ability to
slice the backup for a single client into several jobs. I was looking
for a way to backup several clients simultaneously.

In the past I was able to run backups for 2 clients to the same tape
(even with Allow multiple data streams set to No).

Aleksandr


On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Steve Fogarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do you have Multi Data Streams in your Policies set to yes?

 Steve





 On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
  Dear All,
 
  For my Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs setting is set to 3.
 
  I have 3 classes with Class Storage Unit property pointing to the
  Disk Storage Unit. Jobs are being queued, but only one job runs at a
  time.
 
  Running NetBackup 3.4 Solaris 8.
 
  Thank you,
  Aleksandr
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Master Server on a SUN Thumper?

2008-04-14 Thread Jim Horalek


Just as an asside, how many people are building Master servers on SATA?
Thumper is a big box of SATA. Whats the performance of NBU 6.5 on SATA
anyway?


Jim


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After doing a bit more digging, I have learned that a SUN Thumper works well
as a media server.  Our local SUN office was able to provide some
documentation outlining the process.  They said the PDFs are distributable
so if you can't find them via SUN, I've made them available for anyone to
get from:
  http://www.sfu.ca/~bryer/x4500/

I don't see anything in the documents to explain the rationale behind
requiring a separate master server.  Of course two issues have been brought
up here (BMR and the database performance).

The documents show a stock Thumper (with RaidZ) being able to push 350MB/s.
With mirrored pairs and additional network (or 10GbE) up to 550MB/s can be
achieved.  This is with Update 4 (8/07) of Solaris 10.

I still would like to see a Thumper used as a master server assuming of
course that BMR isn't needed.



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[Veritas-bu] ACSLS 7.1 to 7.2

2008-04-14 Thread Scott Jacobson
Has anyone upgraded their ACSLS 7.1 to 7.2?
 
Just curious if there were any issues with database migration from Informix to 
Postgres?
 
I didn't see anything on the topic at Backup Central.
 
The instructions from the StorageTek 7.2 ICAG look straight forward, but looks 
can be deceiving.
 
Any experiences, suggestions or guidelines would be appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Scott
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Master Server on a SUN Thumper?

2008-04-14 Thread Ed Wilts
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Jim Horalek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just as an aside, how many people are building Master servers on SATA?


The master server is one big flat-file database.  Why would you want it on
SATA?  I don't imagine that many database operations are going to any fun at
all...

You could, on the other hand, put a DSSU or DSU on your master on SATA but
that would be providing media server functionality, not master server
functionality.  I'd be okay with doing that (and am doing it here).


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs setting (runs one job at a time)

2008-04-14 Thread Steve Fogarty
Sorry about that...misread the question.

Here is something_that_might_help.  3.4 is along time ago, and I have not
worked with Class Storage Unit, but you could try this.

http://www.pcs-computing.com/support/nb_bpclinfo.html

bpclinfo has a max jobs per class setting.  Not sure if bpclinfo is on 3.4
or not?  It doesn't appear to be in 6.5 (which is what I am running), so
maybe it is an old command going back to 3.4?

Steve




On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Steve,
 Thank you for your answer.
 I do have Allow multiple data streams set to Yes for every class.
 As far as I understand - this setting affects NetBackup's ability to
 slice the backup for a single client into several jobs. I was looking
 for a way to backup several clients simultaneously.

 In the past I was able to run backups for 2 clients to the same tape
 (even with Allow multiple data streams set to No).

 Aleksandr


 On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Steve Fogarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Do you have Multi Data Streams in your Policies set to yes?
 
  Steve
 
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  
  
   Dear All,
  
   For my Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs setting is set to
 3.
  
   I have 3 classes with Class Storage Unit property pointing to the
   Disk Storage Unit. Jobs are being queued, but only one job runs at a
   time.
  
   Running NetBackup 3.4 Solaris 8.
  
   Thank you,
   Aleksandr
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs setting (runs one job at a time)

2008-04-14 Thread Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
Steve,
Thank you for your answer.
bpclinfo exists on NetBackup 3.4. I have backup jobs for several
classes, which (to my mind :) should be able to run at the same time).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /netbackup/openv/netbackup/logs/bpsched #
/netbackup/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpclinfo FxAll -L
Class Type: Standard (0)
Active: yes
Follow NFS Mounts:  no
Cross Mount Points: yes
Client Compress:yes
Collect TIR Info:   no
Class Priority: 2
Ext Security Info:  no
File Restore Raw:   no
Client Encrypt: no
Max Jobs/Class: 99
Multiple Streams:   1
Disaster Recovery:  0
Max Frag Size:  0 MB  (unlimited)
Residence:  b2d  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
Volume Pool:NetBackup  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /netbackup/openv/netbackup/logs/bpsched #
/netbackup/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpclinfo FTS -L
Class Type: Standard (0)
Active: yes
Follow NFS Mounts:  no
Cross Mount Points: yes
Client Compress:yes
Collect TIR Info:   no
Class Priority: 10
Ext Security Info:  no
File Restore Raw:   no
Client Encrypt: no
Max Jobs/Class: 99
Multiple Streams:   1
Disaster Recovery:  0
Max Frag Size:  0 MB  (unlimited)
Residence:  b2d  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
Volume Pool:NetBackup  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /netbackup/openv/netbackup/logs/bpsched #
/netbackup/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpclinfo Unix-servers -L
Class Type: Standard (0)
Active: yes
Follow NFS Mounts:  no
Cross Mount Points: yes
Client Compress:yes
Collect TIR Info:   no
Class Priority: 1
Ext Security Info:  no
File Restore Raw:   no
Client Encrypt: no
Max Jobs/Class: 99
Multiple Streams:   1
Disaster Recovery:  0
Max Frag Size:  0 MB  (unlimited)
Residence:  b2d  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
Volume Pool:NetBackup  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /netbackup/openv/netbackup/logs/bpsched #


Thank you,
Aleksandr

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Steve Fogarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry about that...misread the question.

 Here is something_that_might_help.  3.4 is along time ago, and I have not
 worked with Class Storage Unit, but you could try this.

 http://www.pcs-computing.com/support/nb_bpclinfo.html

 bpclinfo has a max jobs per class setting.  Not sure if bpclinfo is on 3.4
 or not?  It doesn't appear to be in 6.5 (which is what I am running), so
 maybe it is an old command going back to 3.4?

 Steve






 On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Steve,
  Thank you for your answer.
  I do have Allow multiple data streams set to Yes for every class.
  As far as I understand - this setting affects NetBackup's ability to
  slice the backup for a single client into several jobs. I was looking
  for a way to backup several clients simultaneously.
 
  In the past I was able to run backups for 2 clients to the same tape
  (even with Allow multiple data streams set to No).
 
  Aleksandr
 
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Steve Fogarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Do you have Multi Data Streams in your Policies set to yes?
  
   Steve
  
  
  
  
  
   On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
   
   
Dear All,
   
For my Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs setting is set to
 3.
   
I have 3 classes with Class Storage Unit property pointing to the
Disk Storage Unit. Jobs are being queued, but only one job runs at a
time.
   
Running NetBackup 3.4 Solaris 8.
   
Thank you,
Aleksandr
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Re: [Veritas-bu] ACSLS 7.1 to 7.2

2008-04-14 Thread Hudson, Steve
I will be doing this soon as well so I am also interested in real world
experiences.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Jacobson
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:41 AM
To: nbu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] ACSLS 7.1 to 7.2

 

Has anyone upgraded their ACSLS 7.1 to 7.2?

 

Just curious if there were any issues with database migration from
Informix to Postgres?

 

I didn't see anything on the topic at Backup Central.

 

The instructions from the StorageTek 7.2 ICAG look straight forward, but
looks can be deceiving.

 

Any experiences, suggestions or guidelines would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Scott



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Master Server on a SUN Thumper?

2008-04-14 Thread Jeff Lightner
Actually we have some quite large (2TB+) Oracle Test/Trng databases
using ATA drives in a Clariion CX700 arrays and get decent performance
out of those.   Of course that is hardware RAID.   Not sure what the SUN
Thumper uses.

 

The database on NBU is relatively small by comparison though at the
moment we do still have ours on EMC Symmetrix (DMX3) but that is more
for the warm fuzzy we get from Symmetrix reliability.

 



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Master Server on a SUN Thumper?

 

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Jim Horalek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Just as an aside, how many people are building Master servers on
SATA?


The master server is one big flat-file database.  Why would you want it
on SATA?  I don't imagine that many database operations are going to any
fun at all...

You could, on the other hand, put a DSSU or DSU on your master on SATA
but that would be providing media server functionality, not master
server functionality.  I'd be okay with doing that (and am doing it
here).



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs setting (runs one job at a time)

2008-04-14 Thread ckstehman
 Check the Maximum Jobs Per Client  setting under Global Settings on 
your master server

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Steve,
Thank you for your answer.
bpclinfo exists on NetBackup 3.4. I have backup jobs for several
classes, which (to my mind :) should be able to run at the same time).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /netbackup/openv/netbackup/logs/bpsched #
/netbackup/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpclinfo FxAll -L
Class Type: Standard (0)
Active: yes
Follow NFS Mounts:  no
Cross Mount Points: yes
Client Compress:yes
Collect TIR Info:   no
Class Priority: 2
Ext Security Info:  no
File Restore Raw:   no
Client Encrypt: no
Max Jobs/Class: 99
Multiple Streams:   1
Disaster Recovery:  0
Max Frag Size:  0 MB  (unlimited)
Residence:  b2d  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
Volume Pool:NetBackup  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /netbackup/openv/netbackup/logs/bpsched #
/netbackup/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpclinfo FTS -L
Class Type: Standard (0)
Active: yes
Follow NFS Mounts:  no
Cross Mount Points: yes
Client Compress:yes
Collect TIR Info:   no
Class Priority: 10
Ext Security Info:  no
File Restore Raw:   no
Client Encrypt: no
Max Jobs/Class: 99
Multiple Streams:   1
Disaster Recovery:  0
Max Frag Size:  0 MB  (unlimited)
Residence:  b2d  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
Volume Pool:NetBackup  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /netbackup/openv/netbackup/logs/bpsched #
/netbackup/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpclinfo Unix-servers -L
Class Type: Standard (0)
Active: yes
Follow NFS Mounts:  no
Cross Mount Points: yes
Client Compress:yes
Collect TIR Info:   no
Class Priority: 1
Ext Security Info:  no
File Restore Raw:   no
Client Encrypt: no
Max Jobs/Class: 99
Multiple Streams:   1
Disaster Recovery:  0
Max Frag Size:  0 MB  (unlimited)
Residence:  b2d  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
Volume Pool:NetBackup  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /netbackup/openv/netbackup/logs/bpsched #


Thank you,
Aleksandr

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Steve Fogarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Sorry about that...misread the question.

 Here is something_that_might_help.  3.4 is along time ago, and I have 
not
 worked with Class Storage Unit, but you could try this.

 http://www.pcs-computing.com/support/nb_bpclinfo.html

 bpclinfo has a max jobs per class setting.  Not sure if bpclinfo is on 
3.4
 or not?  It doesn't appear to be in 6.5 (which is what I am running), so
 maybe it is an old command going back to 3.4?

 Steve






 On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Steve,
  Thank you for your answer.
  I do have Allow multiple data streams set to Yes for every class.
  As far as I understand - this setting affects NetBackup's ability to
  slice the backup for a single client into several jobs. I was looking
  for a way to backup several clients simultaneously.
 
  In the past I was able to run backups for 2 clients to the same tape
  (even with Allow multiple data streams set to No).
 
  Aleksandr
 
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Steve Fogarty 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Do you have Multi Data Streams in your Policies set to yes?
  
   Steve
  
  
  
  
  
   On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
   
   
Dear All,
   
For my Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs setting is 
set to
 3.
   
I have 3 classes with Class Storage Unit property pointing to 
the
Disk Storage Unit. Jobs are being queued, but only one job runs at 
a
time.
   
Running NetBackup 3.4 Solaris 8.
   
Thank you,
Aleksandr
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs setting (runs one job at a time)

2008-04-14 Thread Mark.Donaldson
Nah - won't be that - he said it was multiple clients.
 
You've verified you've set the max-jobs for the storage unit to greater
than one?
 
Did you bounce the daemons afterward?  NB3.4 didn't like changes to the
storage units are required that almost every change or addition was
followed by a restart of the daemons.
 
-M



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To: Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs
setting (runs one job at a time)



 Check the Maximum Jobs Per Client  setting under Global Settings on
your master server 

=
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IT Distributed Services Team
Pepco Holdings, Inc.
202-331-6619
Pager 301-765-2703
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Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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04/14/2008 01:08 PM 

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Subject
Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs
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Steve,
Thank you for your answer.
bpclinfo exists on NetBackup 3.4. I have backup jobs for several
classes, which (to my mind :) should be able to run at the same time).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /netbackup/openv/netbackup/logs/bpsched #
/netbackup/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpclinfo FxAll -L
Class Type: Standard (0)
Active: yes
Follow NFS Mounts:  no
Cross Mount Points: yes
Client Compress:yes
Collect TIR Info:   no
Class Priority: 2
Ext Security Info:  no
File Restore Raw:   no
Client Encrypt: no
Max Jobs/Class: 99
Multiple Streams:   1
Disaster Recovery:  0
Max Frag Size:  0 MB  (unlimited)
Residence:  b2d  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
Volume Pool:NetBackup  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /netbackup/openv/netbackup/logs/bpsched #
/netbackup/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpclinfo FTS -L
Class Type: Standard (0)
Active: yes
Follow NFS Mounts:  no
Cross Mount Points: yes
Client Compress:yes
Collect TIR Info:   no
Class Priority: 10
Ext Security Info:  no
File Restore Raw:   no
Client Encrypt: no
Max Jobs/Class: 99
Multiple Streams:   1
Disaster Recovery:  0
Max Frag Size:  0 MB  (unlimited)
Residence:  b2d  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
Volume Pool:NetBackup  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /netbackup/openv/netbackup/logs/bpsched #
/netbackup/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpclinfo Unix-servers -L
Class Type: Standard (0)
Active: yes
Follow NFS Mounts:  no
Cross Mount Points: yes
Client Compress:yes
Collect TIR Info:   no
Class Priority: 1
Ext Security Info:  no
File Restore Raw:   no
Client Encrypt: no
Max Jobs/Class: 99
Multiple Streams:   1
Disaster Recovery:  0
Max Frag Size:  0 MB  (unlimited)
Residence:  b2d  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
Volume Pool:NetBackup  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /netbackup/openv/netbackup/logs/bpsched #


Thank you,
Aleksandr

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Steve Fogarty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry about that...misread the question.

 Here is something_that_might_help.  3.4 is along time ago, and I have
not
 worked with Class Storage Unit, but you could try this.

 http://www.pcs-computing.com/support/nb_bpclinfo.html

 bpclinfo has a max jobs per class setting.  Not sure if bpclinfo is on
3.4
 or not?  It doesn't appear to be in 6.5 (which is what I am running),
so
 maybe it is an old command going back to 3.4?

 Steve






 On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Steve,
  Thank you for your answer.
  I do have Allow multiple data streams set to Yes for every
class.
  As far as I understand - this setting affects NetBackup's ability to
  slice the backup for a single client into several jobs. I was
looking
  for a way to backup several clients simultaneously.
 
  In the past I was able to run backups for 2 clients to the same tape
  (even with Allow multiple data streams set to No).
 
  Aleksandr
 
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Steve Fogarty
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Do you have Multi Data Streams in your Policies set to yes?
  
   Steve
  
  
  
  
  
   On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
   
   
Dear All,
   
For my Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs setting is
set to
 3.
   
I have 3 classes with Class Storage Unit property pointing to
the
Disk Storage Unit. Jobs are being queued, but only one job runs
at a
time.
   
Running NetBackup 3.4 Solaris 8.
   
Thank you,
Aleksandr
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs setting (runs one job at a time)

2008-04-14 Thread Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
Mark,Carl,
Thanks a lot.

I didn't bounce the daemons (the backups were running and still
running now) after bumping up the Maximum concurrent jobs as I hoped
that change would take immediately. I will restart and let you know. I
hope that this is the fix.

I am trying to backup several clients simultaneously, so Maximum Jobs
per client should not be critical for me.

Aleks



On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:04 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Nah - won't be that - he said it was multiple clients.

 You've verified you've set the max-jobs for the storage unit to greater than
 one?

 Did you bounce the daemons afterward?  NB3.4 didn't like changes to the
 storage units are required that almost every change or addition was followed
 by a restart of the daemons.

 -M

  
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 Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:54 AM
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 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs
 setting (runs one job at a time)




  Check the Maximum Jobs Per Client  setting under Global Settings on your
 master server

 =
 Carl Stehman
 IT Distributed Services Team
 Pepco Holdings, Inc.
 202-331-6619
 Pager 301-765-2703
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  Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 04/14/2008 01:08 PM

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 Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs
 setting (runs one job at a time)





 Steve,
 Thank you for your answer.
 bpclinfo exists on NetBackup 3.4. I have backup jobs for several
 classes, which (to my mind :) should be able to run at the same time).

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /netbackup/openv/netbackup/logs/bpsched #
 /netbackup/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpclinfo FxAll -L
 Class Type: Standard (0)
 Active: yes
 Follow NFS Mounts:  no
 Cross Mount Points: yes
 Client Compress:yes
 Collect TIR Info:   no
 Class Priority: 2
 Ext Security Info:  no
 File Restore Raw:   no
 Client Encrypt: no
 Max Jobs/Class: 99
 Multiple Streams:   1
 Disaster Recovery:  0
 Max Frag Size:  0 MB  (unlimited)
 Residence:  b2d  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
 Volume Pool:NetBackup  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /netbackup/openv/netbackup/logs/bpsched #
 /netbackup/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpclinfo FTS -L
 Class Type: Standard (0)
 Active: yes
 Follow NFS Mounts:  no
 Cross Mount Points: yes
 Client Compress:yes
 Collect TIR Info:   no
 Class Priority: 10
 Ext Security Info:  no
 File Restore Raw:   no
 Client Encrypt: no
 Max Jobs/Class: 99
 Multiple Streams:   1
 Disaster Recovery:  0
 Max Frag Size:  0 MB  (unlimited)
 Residence:  b2d  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
 Volume Pool:NetBackup  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /netbackup/openv/netbackup/logs/bpsched #
 /netbackup/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpclinfo Unix-servers -L
 Class Type: Standard (0)
 Active: yes
 Follow NFS Mounts:  no
 Cross Mount Points: yes
 Client Compress:yes
 Collect TIR Info:   no
 Class Priority: 1
 Ext Security Info:  no
 File Restore Raw:   no
 Client Encrypt: no
 Max Jobs/Class: 99
 Multiple Streams:   1
 Disaster Recovery:  0
 Max Frag Size:  0 MB  (unlimited)
 Residence:  b2d  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
 Volume Pool:NetBackup  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /netbackup/openv/netbackup/logs/bpsched #


 Thank you,
 Aleksandr

 On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Steve Fogarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Sorry about that...misread the question.
 
  Here is something_that_might_help.  3.4 is along time ago, and I have not
  worked with Class Storage Unit, but you could try this.
 
  http://www.pcs-computing.com/support/nb_bpclinfo.html
 
  bpclinfo has a max jobs per class setting.  Not sure if bpclinfo is on 3.4
  or not?  It doesn't appear to be in 6.5 (which is what I am running), so
  maybe it is an old command going back to 3.4?
 
  Steve
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Steve,
   Thank you for your answer.
   I do have Allow multiple data streams set to Yes for every class.
   As far as I understand - this setting affects NetBackup's ability to
   slice the backup for a single client into several jobs. I was looking
   for a way to backup several clients simultaneously.
  
   In the past I was able to run backups for 2 clients to the same tape
   (even with Allow multiple data streams set to No).
  
   Aleksandr
  
  
  
  
  
   On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Steve Fogarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
Do you have Multi Data Streams in your Policies set to yes?
   
Steve
   
   
   
   
   
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:31 

Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs setting (runs one job at a time)

2008-04-14 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 01:44:20PM -0300, Steve Fogarty wrote:

 http://www.pcs-computing.com/support/nb_bpclinfo.html
 
 bpclinfo has a max jobs per class setting.  Not sure if bpclinfo is on 3.4
 or not?  It doesn't appear to be in 6.5 (which is what I am running), so
 maybe it is an old command going back to 3.4?

Most 'bpcl*' commands dealt with classes and were renamed 'bppl*' to
represent the renamed policies.  The 'bpcl*' names disappeared in 6.

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[Veritas-bu] Netbackup 8X errors

2008-04-14 Thread Floyd Endsley
Question regarding Netbackup 8X errors.

Is it acceptable to get 8X errors?

Is there an  acceptable number before we should start to get concerned?

We had a high number of 8X errors and resolved most of them. (the bulk 
was from a bad tape drive).
Now when we come across any 8X errors we would do a long erase on the 
media and put it back into the scratch pool.
This has corrected some of the 8X errors as well but not all of them.

Anyone have any other Ideas or suggestions on this issue?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Master Server on a SUN Thumper?

2008-04-14 Thread Ed Wilts
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Jeff Lightner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Actually we have some quite large (2TB+) Oracle Test/Trng databases
 using ATA drives in a Clariion CX700 arrays and get decent performance out
 of those.


There's performance and then there's reliability.  SATA drives do fail more
often and the likelihood of unrecoverable errors on SATA drives is higher
than on FC drives.  You get what you pay for.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobs setting (runs one job at a time)

2008-04-14 Thread Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
Darren,
Thank you, will remember this when I upgrade.

Aleksandr


On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:01 PM, A Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 01:44:20PM -0300, Steve Fogarty wrote:

   http://www.pcs-computing.com/support/nb_bpclinfo.html
  
   bpclinfo has a max jobs per class setting.  Not sure if bpclinfo is on 3.4
   or not?  It doesn't appear to be in 6.5 (which is what I am running), so
   maybe it is an old command going back to 3.4?

  Most 'bpcl*' commands dealt with classes and were renamed 'bppl*' to
  represent the renamed policies.  The 'bpcl*' names disappeared in 6.

  --
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 8X errors

2008-04-14 Thread Ed Wilts
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Floyd Endsley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Is it acceptable to get 8X errors?


No.  This means that your job has failed.


 Is there an  acceptable number before we should start to get concerned?


0 is acceptable.  Anything else suggests that something isn't working.


 We had a high number of 8X errors and resolved most of them. (the bulk
 was from a bad tape drive).
 Now when we come across any 8X errors we would do a long erase on the
 media and put it back into the scratch pool.
 This has corrected some of the 8X errors as well but not all of them.

 Anyone have any other Ideas or suggestions on this issue?


Not all 8x errors are caused by media.  Some are caused by tape drives and
some are caused by communication issues between the host and the tape drive.

If the bulk of your errors were caused by a bad tape drive, why are you
doing a long erase on your media?  How do you really know it corrected
anything at all?  If the tape media wasn't the issue in the first place, it
certainly won't fix anything.  And if it did fix anything, you've got flaky
media and it should be destroyed - doing more I/O on the media won't make
things better.

Media is CHEAP compared to the cost of data it's hosting.

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent jobssetting (runs one job at a time)

2008-04-14 Thread Mark.Donaldson
...and you kids get off my lawn!

;-)

-Original Message-
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Dunham
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 1:01 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Storage Unit - Maximum concurrent
jobssetting (runs one job at a time)

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 01:44:20PM -0300, Steve Fogarty wrote:

 http://www.pcs-computing.com/support/nb_bpclinfo.html
 
 bpclinfo has a max jobs per class setting.  Not sure if bpclinfo is on
3.4
 or not?  It doesn't appear to be in 6.5 (which is what I am running),
so
 maybe it is an old command going back to 3.4?

Most 'bpcl*' commands dealt with classes and were renamed 'bppl*' to
represent the renamed policies.  The 'bpcl*' names disappeared in 6.

-- 
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Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/
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[Veritas-bu] Status 1's and exclude lists (was Top 20 (or so) misunderstood things about NBU)

2008-04-14 Thread Stuart Liddle
 

 

I think that Jeff has the right idea here.  Building an exclude list for
things that cause a status 1 can be very helpful to you if you are in a
S-OX environment.  

 

I guess I'd have to modify my review it once and ignore them after
that... position.  If you review the status 1's on a regular basis and
check with the application owners to ensure that the files are NOT
critical to a restore of the application (like some error log files or
such) and place these files into the exclude list, then you are covered.
This will switch the system getting status 1's to status zero.  That way
IF things change (like someone adding a new application or the
application starts to behave differently, you will notice it because you
start seeing status 1's.

 

Definitely agree with having an exclude list for the database stuff if
you are handling the database backups separately as a special form of
backup.

 

-stuart



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Lightner
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Top 20 (or so) misunderstood things about NBU

 

I'll have to disagree with the idea of not using exclude lists.   A
couple of reasons to use them:

1)   Separate OS and application/database backups.   You do not want
to have a policy that backs up from / on a system that has GBs or TBs of
database on it when you have a separate policy for the database backups.
In multi-tier environments it is even more important that you backup the
DB from one server along with middle tier or other levels from other
servers as part of an environment backup rather than a server
backup.   

2)   Not having excluded the known items that can't be backed up
(e.g. /proc on Linux, door files on Solaris) you have no idea whether
the status 1 you just got was only for those known items or for other
items that WERE critical to you ability to recover.   In at least one
Federally regulated industry I was expected to explain every file that
caused a status 1.  If I did that in the official backup documentation
(required by those same regulations) I could put it in the exclude lists
and NOT have to explain it each day.   For those of us that know and
love S-OX this might be a good pre-emptive measure for overzealous S-OX
audits.

 

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