Re: [Veritas-bu] Deduping with Tape as a final destination

2008-04-26 Thread Jon Bousselot
As I understand the PureDisk product, yes.  The copy that goes to tape 
will be the full data set.  I believe the product is positioned save 
space and time from the client and on the equivalent of a DSU.  You can 
run PureDisk along with NBU, so the stream of data that comes from the 
client is inspected for duplicate data (on the media server), and then 
space is saved.  As a PD client, it inspects data at even smaller 
chunks, but does the work at the client and sends the changes to the PD 
repository. 

I looked at the Commvault 7 documentation, and it was not obvious to me 
what the contents of the final tape copy would be. 

If I were going to use tape as a final resting place, and use slow cheap 
disk as a de-dup location, I would like the tape copy to be the simplest 
format possible for reading in the future.  And it would be nice if 
those archive tapes did not need a complex road map of re-dup chunks to 
assemble the data.  On a PureDisk server, you can eliminate duplicate 
data from all your client images, because at any time you can get that 
data back from the single instance which lives on your random access media.

I'm having a hard time conceptualizing the process by which a 100G 
client de-duped down to a 20G backup tape would be processed for a 
restore.  The bits have to come from somewhere, which is why I'm a bit 
confused on how Commvault is doing it.  I need to read their docs again.

-Jon



> So, ultimately, the data copied to the tape will be the full amount of the 
> data and not the deduped data?  For example, the original 100GB deduped down 
> to 20GB will be the full 100GB and not the 20GB? Or will it be the 20GB, with 
> Netbackup referring back to the index and/or base data?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Health Check Script

2008-04-26 Thread Len Boyle
Hello Larry,

An interesting list.



if you have clients/servers behind firewalls you may not be able to use the 
ping command as the firewall may block. This is for questions 1 and 13.

If you are at level 6 you can use the 
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bptestbpcd command to check that the clients 
can talk to netbackup.



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Health Check Script

Hello,

I'm writing a Netbackup Health Check Script to "proactively" check the
status of my infrastructure. This will help me to be aware of potential
issues & then correct / fix them so that less time is spent
troubleshooting the problems after a failed backup. To that end, here's
my list of items I'm checking for (in no particular order). Please
provide comments / suggestions / additions regarding this list and what
you think of this idea.

1. Ping the client (IP/Media Server).
2. Media Server status (via vmoprcmd - Tells you if offline).
3. Verify if NBU processes are running.
4. All Tape Drives are UP.
5. Long running backups.
6. Pending Tape Requests.
7. Enough tapes in the Scratch Pool (quantity).
8. Robots are accessible.
9. Any policy was changed and what was changed.
10. New policy added & details.
11. Verify the installation directory and files have not been changed.
12. Verify connectivity via Netbackup (eg from Master Server run
bpcoverage -c .
13. I'm tempted to rsh to client and then run bpclntcmd -sv.
14. Verify the performance files are in place (eg NET_BUFFER_SZ).

Thanks.

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[Veritas-bu] Top 20 (or so) misunderstood things about NBU

2008-04-26 Thread Dennis Peacock

People need to stop looking at backups as "backups".

People and management need to view data backup as "data protection" and 
recovery.

If you really think about itit's reall DATA PROTECTION and the true test of 
your Data Protection process is called "Data Recovery". If you can't recover? 
Then your Data Protection Process is badly broken.

nuff said.  :D

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Health Check Script

2008-04-26 Thread fred fred
Filesystem size/capacity - check that it hasn't been filled up by logs
and other junk
Time successful catalogue backup and tape used,   same for vaulting


On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Larry Mascarenhas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>  I'm writing a Netbackup Health Check Script to "proactively" check the
>  status of my infrastructure. This will help me to be aware of potential
>  issues & then correct / fix them so that less time is spent
>  troubleshooting the problems after a failed backup. To that end, here's
>  my list of items I'm checking for (in no particular order). Please
>  provide comments / suggestions / additions regarding this list and what
>  you think of this idea.
>
>  1. Ping the client (IP/Media Server).
>  2. Media Server status (via vmoprcmd - Tells you if offline).
>  3. Verify if NBU processes are running.
>  4. All Tape Drives are UP.
>  5. Long running backups.
>  6. Pending Tape Requests.
>  7. Enough tapes in the Scratch Pool (quantity).
>  8. Robots are accessible.
>  9. Any policy was changed and what was changed.
>  10. New policy added & details.
>  11. Verify the installation directory and files have not been changed.
>  12. Verify connectivity via Netbackup (eg from Master Server run
>  bpcoverage -c .
>  13. I'm tempted to rsh to client and then run bpclntcmd -sv.
>  14. Verify the performance files are in place (eg NET_BUFFER_SZ).
>
>  Thanks.
>
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[Veritas-bu] Netbackup Health Check Script

2008-04-26 Thread Larry Mascarenhas
Hello,

I'm writing a Netbackup Health Check Script to "proactively" check the 
status of my infrastructure. This will help me to be aware of potential 
issues & then correct / fix them so that less time is spent 
troubleshooting the problems after a failed backup. To that end, here's 
my list of items I'm checking for (in no particular order). Please 
provide comments / suggestions / additions regarding this list and what 
you think of this idea.

1. Ping the client (IP/Media Server).
2. Media Server status (via vmoprcmd - Tells you if offline).
3. Verify if NBU processes are running.
4. All Tape Drives are UP.
5. Long running backups.
6. Pending Tape Requests.
7. Enough tapes in the Scratch Pool (quantity).
8. Robots are accessible.
9. Any policy was changed and what was changed.
10. New policy added & details.
11. Verify the installation directory and files have not been changed.
12. Verify connectivity via Netbackup (eg from Master Server run 
bpcoverage -c .
13. I'm tempted to rsh to client and then run bpclntcmd -sv.
14. Verify the performance files are in place (eg NET_BUFFER_SZ).

Thanks.

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[Veritas-bu] Terminate backup job after a specified amount of time

2008-04-26 Thread Larry Mascarenhas
Hello,

I have a scenario whereby after a specified amount of time (say 8 
hours), I would like to terminate the backup job. At this point, we're 
entering the market hours and backups need to be stopped. Is there any 
available methodology in Netbackup to interrupt the backups after 
specified amount of time / at a specified time?

If there isn't, I'm looking for pointers as to how to identify the 
parent job (Gui is too easy. I'm looking for command line to script it) 
and from there get the time. Any other way to do this?

I know that the status of the backups that have already taken place 
(especially DBs) is no use. And yes, I'll have to visit it and make it 
faster/change start times etc etc.

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[Veritas-bu] Deduping with Tape as a final destination

2008-04-26 Thread mbpettis

So, ultimately, the data copied to the tape will be the full amount of the data 
and not the deduped data?  For example, the original 100GB deduped down to 20GB 
will be the full 100GB and not the 20GB? Or will it be the 20GB, with Netbackup 
referring back to the index and/or base data?

Thanks,
Michael

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[Veritas-bu] Storage unit groups are not understood - yes I'm puzzeld

2008-04-26 Thread fred fred
In the relms of the Top 20 (or so) misunderstood specifically
#2. Storage unit groups are not understood.  (version = 6.5.1)

I'm still puzzled. If you have policies pointing to the same
storage group with two policies running with the a couple of streams
each.  Then a third starts it ends up by queueing.  The only
difference being its not NT Windows but a Standard Unix policy.
Rentetion time and media pool the same.

Can only a limited number of Policies actually use the storage group
at any one time, even if the retention time and tape pool the same?

Does the same apply  for storage units?

If you have  a stroage unit like below I would expect you could have
two policies writng to it at the same time (with no queueing ) as long
as there less than a total of 10 streams. Policies with media
multiplexing of 10 and same retention and pool.

Storage Unit:
Multiplexing enabled
Maximum concurrent write drives: 1
Maximum streams per drive: 10
I have set it to one as I don't what to multistream to more that two
tapes drives in the storage unit group.

Storage Unit Group (set to "balance load" ) has two storage units of
the above i.e a max of 20 streams i.e it will do twice the work load
of my example  I'm assuming each stream is a "job".   In the manuals
what is a "job" seems to change with context.

Max client streams = 24 (for slow backups of small servers)

Am  I missing anything?

Cheers Fred
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