[Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup
Hello, I have a standard backup policy configured to stream five mount points to one tape drive. This is working fine. When I do the restore, I only see one stream restoring at a time. Is it possible to restore the five streams of data from the multiplexed tape at the same time? Other backup softwarescan do this so I assume Netbackup can as well... if some could please point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. My environment looks like this: Master: Solaris 10 on SPARC Media Server: HP-UX on PA-RISC Source Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Target Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Multistream = 5 Multiplex = 5 One LTO-1 tape drive Thank you in advance for any insights. Jeremy ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] 6.x / 5.x Catalog Recovery
I am in the middle of upgrading from 5.1MP4 to 6.5MP1. They have a master and 10 media servers, all HP-UX. Each media server has an Oracle db, so we are forced to do one at a time and in the off hours. This upgrade process will take several weeks because of their change control process. The question is this. During the time we are in a hybrid state, 6.5 master with some media servers 5.1 and some 6.5, what is the DR procedure for recovering all of the media databases using a hot catalog backup? Does the hot catalog backup grab the 5.1 media databases, or does it need to? What is the recovery procedure for these media databases? What exactly does the nbpushdata -modify_5x_hosts command accomplish? The Hot Catalog recovery wizard walks through the catalog and EMM recovery but does not run the 5.x recovery. I am having trouble finding this procedure. Thanks for any help. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error; please notify Cranel Incorporated immediately by telephone at 614-431-8000 or 800-288-3475 and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] ZFS Filesystem Backups - Tips and tricks
Incase anyone is considering implementing any ZFS in their environment which they want to back up using NetBackup we found out yesterday that ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES as the backup selection does NOT cover ZFS filesystems. We have a number of Sun boxes which have various test and development oracle instances which are housed inside ZFS file systems. We blew away one of these test instances the other day (after doing a full OS backup and the required RMAN backups) but when we went to restore the data from the ZFS filesystems, NBU didn't have anything under the uppermost directory. A quick check of other systems with ZFS showed the same issue.We spent the better part of 2 days playing around with the include_list's and exclude_list's but nothing worked. In order to backup ZFS file systems you must explicitly add the ZFS directories into the backup selections of the backup policy. This fix was also confirmed by Symantec support who were also happy to tell me that ZFS isn't officially supported by NBU yet. This on its own should work great if you have a single policy backing up a single server with all it's ZFS under the same parent directory. However, if like us, you have a backup policy which backs up multiple servers, each with their own uniquely named ZFS file systems, you need to get a bit creative. The policy in question backs up 15 Sun boxes with a total of 6 differently named ZFS file systems spread amongst them. If you just list the file systems in the backup selections, NBU looks for each of those different filesystems on each server and spits out an error code 71 (None of the files in the file list exist) for every directory it can't find. The only way we could work out to avoid these errors (and there were a lot of them) was to create every missing directory on every server and then touch a tiny file inside each of these directories. Now when the policy runs, it sees each directory (as listed in the backup selection) on each server and doesn't moan about anything. Perhaps not the neatest of fixes but it works. Apologies for the wordy post, just thought I'd put this info out there in case anyone else is moving towards ZFS. Mark Glazerman Enterprise Storage Administrator Spartech Corporation Desk: 314-889-8282 Fax: 314-854-8282 Cell: 618-520-3401 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.spartech.com http://www.spartech.com/ P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential, are intended solely for the use of the addressee, and may be legally privileged. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately, and do not copy or forward it. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Jeremy Finn wrote: Hello, I have a standard backup policy configured to stream five mount points to one tape drive. This is working fine. When I do the restore, I only see one stream restoring at a time. Is it possible to restore the five streams of data from the multiplexed tape at the same time? This is how it works by default, I backup 3 directories and I see files in all 3 of them being restored at the same time. When you backup to you see 5 simultaneous jobs writing to tape at the same time from the same client? Other backup softwarescan do this so I assume Netbackup can as well... if some could please point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. What does your policy look like? What version of NetBackup? Only an LTO-1 tape how fast are you feeding the drive? What are you expecting? The way it works by default if you backup 5 directories with 5 mpx when you restore it will happen the same way AS LONG AS when it backs up you see all 5 backing up at the same time. (Also, I do not use any policies with the NEW_STREAM directive) so I do not know if that could be affecting it, what does your file list look like? My environment looks like this: Master: Solaris 10 on SPARC Media Server: HP-UX on PA-RISC Source Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Target Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Multistream = 5 Multiplex = 5 One LTO-1 tape drive Thank you in advance for any insights. Jeremy ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup
Do you select all mount points at the same restore? If yes, then you will see only one job, but netbackup will restore all files in one tape pass. If you start 5 restores the you have to be fast (every restore must start within 30 sec, by default). This can be changed from master server properties. stefanos From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Finn Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:26 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup Hello, I have a standard backup policy configured to stream five mount points to one tape drive. This is working fine. When I do the restore, I only see one stream restoring at a time. Is it possible to restore the five streams of data from the multiplexed tape at the same time? Other backup softwarescan do this so I assume Netbackup can as well... if some could please point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. My environment looks like this: Master: Solaris 10 on SPARC Media Server: HP-UX on PA-RISC Source Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Target Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Multistream = 5 Multiplex = 5 One LTO-1 tape drive Thank you in advance for any insights. Jeremy ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.x / 5.x Catalog Recovery
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Fluharty, John wrote: I am in the middle of upgrading from 5.1MP4 to 6.5MP1. They have a master and 10 media servers, all HP-UX. Each media server has an Oracle db, so we are forced to do one at a time and in the off hours. This upgrade process will take several weeks because of their change control process. Ouch. The question is this. During the time we are in a hybrid state, 6.5 master with some media servers 5.1 and some 6.5 You should open a case with Symantec, the master could be 6.5 (are you sure you want to go to 6.5 or something more stable, 6.0MPX?) and the media servers could be 6.0, but I am not sure you would want to run a 6.5 master with 5.1 media servers. what is the DR procedure for recovering all of the media databases using a hot catalog backup? Why would would you do this and not just upgrade the software? Does the hot catalog backup grab the 5.1 media databases, or does it need to? This is a good question, I do not know. What is the recovery procedure for these media databases? What exactly does the nbpushdata -modify_5x_hosts command accomplish? The Hot Catalog recovery wizard walks through the catalog and EMM recovery but does not run the 5.x recovery. I am having trouble finding this procedure. Good questions.. but back to my original question, why not upgrade the software in-place? What you are describing sounds like a complete re-installation of the operating system / etc - then you would/may need to perform this sort of recovery, is that what you are doing or are you just upgrading the software? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] ZFS Filesystem Backups - Tips and tricks
This is fixed in 6.5.2, but the other known problems in that release may prevent you from wanting to upgrade. I've tested it and it works. From the release notes: Etrack Incident = ET1167175 Associated Primary Etrack = ET1165582 Titan cases: 240-665-067 281-261-075 290-875-726 Description: A Zeta file system (ZFS) filesystem is not backed up when the ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES directive is used. Bryan Mark Glazerman wrote: Incase anyone is considering implementing any ZFS in their environment which they want to back up using NetBackup we found out yesterday that ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES as the backup selection does NOT cover ZFS filesystems. We have a number of Sun boxes which have various test and development oracle instances which are housed inside ZFS file systems. We blew away one of these test instances the other day (after doing a full OS backup and the required RMAN backups) but when we went to restore the data from the ZFS filesystems, NBU didn’t have anything under the uppermost directory. A quick check of other systems with ZFS showed the same issue.We spent the better part of 2 days playing around with the include_list’s and exclude_list’s but nothing worked. In order to backup ZFS file systems you must explicitly add the ZFS directories into the backup selections of the backup policy. This “fix” was also confirmed by Symantec support who were also happy to tell me that ZFS isn’t officially supported by NBU yet. This on its own should work great if you have a single policy backing up a single server with all it’s ZFS under the same parent directory. However, if like us, you have a backup policy which backs up multiple servers, each with their own uniquely named ZFS file systems, you need to get a bit creative. The policy in question backs up 15 Sun boxes with a total of 6 differently named ZFS file systems spread amongst them. If you just list the file systems in the backup selections, NBU looks for each of those different filesystems on each server and spits out an error code 71 (None of the files in the file list exist) for every directory it can’t find. The only way we could work out to avoid these errors (and there were a lot of them) was to create every missing directory on every server and then touch a tiny file inside each of these directories. Now when the policy runs, it sees each directory (as listed in the backup selection) on each server and doesn’t moan about anything. Perhaps not the neatest of fixes but it works. Apologies for the wordy post, just thought I’d put this info out there in case anyone else is moving towards ZFS. *Mark Glazerman* *Enterprise Storage Administrator* *Spartech Corporation* Desk: 314-889-8282 Fax: 314-854-8282 Cell: 618-520-3401 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *http://www.spartech.com* http://www.spartech.com/ P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential, are intended solely for the use of the addressee, and may be legally privileged. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately, and do not copy or forward it. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.x / 5.x Catalog Recovery
You can always do a backup of /usr/openv/ of your 5.x media server and forget the catalog backup (for them). The only file you really need for 5.x media servers is the /usr/openv/netbackup/db/media/mediaDB. If you have it you can recreate (reinstall) the media server. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fluharty, John Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:41 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] 6.x / 5.x Catalog Recovery I am in the middle of upgrading from 5.1MP4 to 6.5MP1. They have a master and 10 media servers, all HP-UX. Each media server has an Oracle db, so we are forced to do one at a time and in the off hours. This upgrade process will take several weeks because of their change control process. The question is this. During the time we are in a hybrid state, 6.5 master with some media servers 5.1 and some 6.5, what is the DR procedure for recovering all of the media databases using a hot catalog backup? Does the hot catalog backup grab the 5.1 media databases, or does it need to? What is the recovery procedure for these media databases? What exactly does the nbpushdata -modify_5x_hosts command accomplish? The Hot Catalog recovery wizard walks through the catalog and EMM recovery but does not run the 5.x recovery. I am having trouble finding this procedure. Thanks for any help. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error; please notify Cranel Incorporated immediately by telephone at 614-431-8000 or 800-288-3475 and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, smpt wrote: Do you select all mount points at the same restore? If yes, then you will see only one job, but netbackup will restore all files in one tape pass. Good questions, forgot to ask them :) If you start 5 restores the you have to be fast (every restore must start within 30 sec, by default). This can be changed from master server properties. MPX_RESTORE_DELAY = 30 Yup, change it in bp.conf. stefanos From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Finn Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:26 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup Hello, I have a standard backup policy configured to stream five mount points to one tape drive. This is working fine. When I do the restore, I only see one stream restoring at a time. Is it possible to restore the five streams of data from the multiplexed tape at the same time? Other backup softwarescan do this so I assume Netbackup can as well... if some could please point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. My environment looks like this: Master: Solaris 10 on SPARC Media Server: HP-UX on PA-RISC Source Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Target Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Multistream = 5 Multiplex = 5 One LTO-1 tape drive Thank you in advance for any insights. Jeremy ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] ZFS Filesystem Backups - Tips and tricks
Very good information and posts like these should be added to an FAQ if one exists somewhere. On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Mark Glazerman wrote: Incase anyone is considering implementing any ZFS in their environment which they want to back up using NetBackup we found out yesterday that ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES as the backup selection does NOT cover ZFS filesystems. We have a number of Sun boxes which have various test and development oracle instances which are housed inside ZFS file systems. We blew away one of these test instances the other day (after doing a full OS backup and the required RMAN backups) but when we went to restore the data from the ZFS filesystems, NBU didn't have anything under the uppermost directory. A quick check of other systems with ZFS showed the same issue.We spent the better part of 2 days playing around with the include_list's and exclude_list's but nothing worked. In order to backup ZFS file systems you must explicitly add the ZFS directories into the backup selections of the backup policy. This fix was also confirmed by Symantec support who were also happy to tell me that ZFS isn't officially supported by NBU yet. This on its own should work great if you have a single policy backing up a single server with all it's ZFS under the same parent directory. However, if like us, you have a backup policy which backs up multiple servers, each with their own uniquely named ZFS file systems, you need to get a bit creative. The policy in question backs up 15 Sun boxes with a total of 6 differently named ZFS file systems spread amongst them. If you just list the file systems in the backup selections, NBU looks for each of those different filesystems on each server and spits out an error code 71 (None of the files in the file list exist) for every directory it can't find. The only way we could work out to avoid these errors (and there were a lot of them) was to create every missing directory on every server and then touch a tiny file inside each of these directories. Now when the policy runs, it sees each directory (as listed in the backup selection) on each server and doesn't moan about anything. Perhaps not the neatest of fixes but it works. Apologies for the wordy post, just thought I'd put this info out there in case anyone else is moving towards ZFS. Mark Glazerman Enterprise Storage Administrator Spartech Corporation Desk: 314-889-8282 Fax: 314-854-8282 Cell: 618-520-3401 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.spartech.com http://www.spartech.com/ P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential, are intended solely for the use of the addressee, and may be legally privileged. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately, and do not copy or forward it. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] ZFS Filesystem Backups - Tips and tricks
Bryan, Thanks for that info. I wonder why the Symantec support rep I talked with yesterday made it sound like there were no plans to support ZFS filesystem backups in future releases unless a lot more people pushed for it ? Could he be referring to officially supporting ZFS rather than fixing the ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES issue ? After hearing the mixed reviews of 6.5.2 I don't think we'll be jumping on that bandwagon for some time. Our work around, although not the prettiest, will work until we move to a newer release that doesn't break more than it fixes !! Mark Glazerman Desk: 314-889-8282 Cell: 618-520-3401 please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to -Original Message- From: Bryan S. Leaman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:51 AM To: Mark Glazerman; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] ZFS Filesystem Backups - Tips and tricks This is fixed in 6.5.2, but the other known problems in that release may prevent you from wanting to upgrade. I've tested it and it works. From the release notes: Etrack Incident = ET1167175 Associated Primary Etrack = ET1165582 Titan cases: 240-665-067 281-261-075 290-875-726 Description: A Zeta file system (ZFS) filesystem is not backed up when the ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES directive is used. Bryan Mark Glazerman wrote: Incase anyone is considering implementing any ZFS in their environment which they want to back up using NetBackup we found out yesterday that ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES as the backup selection does NOT cover ZFS filesystems. We have a number of Sun boxes which have various test and development oracle instances which are housed inside ZFS file systems. We blew away one of these test instances the other day (after doing a full OS backup and the required RMAN backups) but when we went to restore the data from the ZFS filesystems, NBU didn’t have anything under the uppermost directory. A quick check of other systems with ZFS showed the same issue.We spent the better part of 2 days playing around with the include_list’s and exclude_list’s but nothing worked. In order to backup ZFS file systems you must explicitly add the ZFS directories into the backup selections of the backup policy. This “fix” was also confirmed by Symantec support who were also happy to tell me that ZFS isn’t officially supported by NBU yet. This on its own should work great if you have a single policy backing up a single server with all it’s ZFS under the same parent directory. However, if like us, you have a backup policy which backs up multiple servers, each with their own uniquely named ZFS file systems, you need to get a bit creative. The policy in question backs up 15 Sun boxes with a total of 6 differently named ZFS file systems spread amongst them. If you just list the file systems in the backup selections, NBU looks for each of those different filesystems on each server and spits out an error code 71 (None of the files in the file list exist) for every directory it can’t find. The only way we could work out to avoid these errors (and there were a lot of them) was to create every missing directory on every server and then touch a tiny file inside each of these directories. Now when the policy runs, it sees each directory (as listed in the backup selection) on each server and doesn’t moan about anything. Perhaps not the neatest of fixes but it works. Apologies for the wordy post, just thought I’d put this info out there in case anyone else is moving towards ZFS. *Mark Glazerman* *Enterprise Storage Administrator* *Spartech Corporation* Desk: 314-889-8282 Fax: 314-854-8282 Cell: 618-520-3401 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *http://www.spartech.com* http://www.spartech.com/ P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential, are intended solely for the use of the addressee, and may be legally privileged. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately, and do not copy or forward it. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] IBM Pseries backups over IVE
IANA AIX Expert, nor do I play one on TV but I think there is where the P6 series differs from the P5's. In the P5's you had a Hypervisor backplane that required the multiple interfaces. Now in the P6 series I think, and I could be wrong here, they've made improvements to the IVE and now it's seamless (or at least supposed to be seamless). Geoff Stafford Barclaycard US Data Protection Engineering office: mobile: -Original Message- From: Dale King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:00 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] IBM Pseries backups over IVE On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 05:21:55PM -0400, Stafford, Geoff wrote: Anyone ever configured Pseries backups this way? I have searched far and wide and have not been able to find any BDPs for backing up this hardware. Yes, we've done it this way on p5. You will need to tweak host files on your master server as your internal VLAN is not visible to the master, so the metadata needs to go via the external LAN address. The actually backup data is then constrained to the high speed internal VLAN. Don't forget to change the MTU on the interfaces on the internal VLAN NIC - we use 65394 which dramtically reduces hypervisor overhead due to fragmentation. Note that this won't work if you intend to route your internal VLAN externally. HTH, Dale Barclays www.barclaycardus.com This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential and/or proprietary information. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity who is the intended recipient. Unauthorized use of this information is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender by replying to this message and delete this material from any system it may be on. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] (0) TRANSIENT (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/TRANSIENT:1.0)
After waiting 4 hours for Symantec to call back on a sev 1 problem I decided I would ask the real experts. Has anyone seen the above message and do you have a clue as to what it might mean. All I can find is that it might be related to PBX, but bpxcfg returns what it is supposed to and the service shows it's running. This is on a windows 2003 server. vxlogview -o 103 show that is trying to proxy to nbpem, but fails, and there is only one nbproxy running. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Patrick ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] ZFS Filesystem Backups - Tips and tricks
Yes we are using multiple data. I agree that making it one big job would probably put an end to the 71's, we just don't want to have to wait for all the mountpoints to back up sequentially. Mark Glazerman Desk: 314-889-8282 Cell: 618-520-3401 please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:14 AM To: Mark Glazerman Cc: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] ZFS Filesystem Backups - Tips and tricks Am i right in assuming you are using multiple data streams? Only reason i ask if if you are not, as long as one of the directories exist on at least one of the servers then you shouldn't get a status 71 when the file list is done sequentially. e.g box1 has /data1 box2 has /data2 box3 has /data3 If the file list is /data1 /data2 /data3 NBU (afaik) will backup /data1 on box1 and then simple miss out /data2 and /data3 giving a WRN messages somewhere without updating the end job status to be 71. I think its just if none of the files in the file list exist you get the 71. Of course if you are using multiple data streams then each dir will be counted as a job and i would totally expect your results. It may just help others :) Cheers Mark Glazerman wrote: Incase anyone is considering implementing any ZFS in their environment which they want to back up using NetBackup we found out yesterday that ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES as the backup selection does NOT cover ZFS filesystems. We have a number of Sun boxes which have various test and development oracle instances which are housed inside ZFS file systems. We blew away one of these test instances the other day (after doing a full OS backup and the required RMAN backups) but when we went to restore the data from the ZFS filesystems, NBU didn’t have anything under the uppermost directory. A quick check of other systems with ZFS showed the same issue.We spent the better part of 2 days playing around with the include_list’s and exclude_list’s but nothing worked. In order to backup ZFS file systems you must explicitly add the ZFS directories into the backup selections of the backup policy. This “fix” was also confirmed by Symantec support who were also happy to tell me that ZFS isn’t officially supported by NBU yet. This on its own should work great if you have a single policy backing up a single server with all it’s ZFS under the same parent directory. However, if like us, you have a backup policy which backs up multiple servers, each with their own uniquely named ZFS file systems, you need to get a bit creative. The policy in question backs up 15 Sun boxes with a total of 6 differently named ZFS file systems spread amongst them. If you just list the file systems in the backup selections, NBU looks for each of those different filesystems on each server and spits out an error code 71 (None of the files in the file list exist) for every directory it can’t find. The only way we could work out to avoid these errors (and there were a lot of them) was to create every missing directory on every server and then touch a tiny file inside each of these directories. Now when the policy runs, it sees each directory (as listed in the backup selection) on each server and doesn’t moan about anything. Perhaps not the neatest of fixes but it works. Apologies for the wordy post, just thought I’d put this info out there in case anyone else is moving towards ZFS. *Mark Glazerman* *Enterprise Storage Administrator* *Spartech Corporation* Desk: 314-889-8282 Fax: 314-854-8282 Cell: 618-520-3401 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *http://www.spartech.com* http://www.spartech.com/ P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential, are intended solely for the use of the addressee, and may be legally privileged. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately, and do not copy or forward it. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] (0) TRANSIENT (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/TRANSIENT:1.0)
Patrick, Need to tell us something about your environment. -Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 11:05 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] (0) TRANSIENT (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/TRANSIENT:1.0) After waiting 4 hours for Symantec to call back on a sev 1 problem I decided I would ask the real experts. Has anyone seen the above message and do you have a clue as to what it might mean. All I can find is that it might be related to PBX, but bpxcfg returns what it is supposed to and the service shows it's running. This is on a windows 2003 server. vxlogview -o 103 show that is trying to proxy to nbpem, but fails, and there is only one nbproxy running. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Patrick ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] ZFS Filesystem Backups - Tips and tricks
Am i right in assuming you are using multiple data streams? Only reason i ask if if you are not, as long as one of the directories exist on at least one of the servers then you shouldn't get a status 71 when the file list is done sequentially. e.g box1 has /data1 box2 has /data2 box3 has /data3 If the file list is /data1 /data2 /data3 NBU (afaik) will backup /data1 on box1 and then simple miss out /data2 and /data3 giving a WRN messages somewhere without updating the end job status to be 71. I think its just if none of the files in the file list exist you get the 71. Of course if you are using multiple data streams then each dir will be counted as a job and i would totally expect your results. It may just help others :) Cheers Mark Glazerman wrote: Incase anyone is considering implementing any ZFS in their environment which they want to back up using NetBackup we found out yesterday that ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES as the backup selection does NOT cover ZFS filesystems. We have a number of Sun boxes which have various test and development oracle instances which are housed inside ZFS file systems. We blew away one of these test instances the other day (after doing a full OS backup and the required RMAN backups) but when we went to restore the data from the ZFS filesystems, NBU didn’t have anything under the uppermost directory. A quick check of other systems with ZFS showed the same issue.We spent the better part of 2 days playing around with the include_list’s and exclude_list’s but nothing worked. In order to backup ZFS file systems you must explicitly add the ZFS directories into the backup selections of the backup policy. This “fix” was also confirmed by Symantec support who were also happy to tell me that ZFS isn’t officially supported by NBU yet. This on its own should work great if you have a single policy backing up a single server with all it’s ZFS under the same parent directory. However, if like us, you have a backup policy which backs up multiple servers, each with their own uniquely named ZFS file systems, you need to get a bit creative. The policy in question backs up 15 Sun boxes with a total of 6 differently named ZFS file systems spread amongst them. If you just list the file systems in the backup selections, NBU looks for each of those different filesystems on each server and spits out an error code 71 (None of the files in the file list exist) for every directory it can’t find. The only way we could work out to avoid these errors (and there were a lot of them) was to create every missing directory on every server and then touch a tiny file inside each of these directories. Now when the policy runs, it sees each directory (as listed in the backup selection) on each server and doesn’t moan about anything. Perhaps not the neatest of fixes but it works. Apologies for the wordy post, just thought I’d put this info out there in case anyone else is moving towards ZFS. *Mark Glazerman* *Enterprise Storage Administrator* *Spartech Corporation* Desk: 314-889-8282 Fax: 314-854-8282 Cell: 618-520-3401 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *http://www.spartech.com* http://www.spartech.com/ P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential, are intended solely for the use of the addressee, and may be legally privileged. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately, and do not copy or forward it. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] (0) TRANSIENT (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/TRANSIENT:1.0)
We've seen it here - just yesterday as a matter of fact. See if nbemm is running. If not restart it. (I'd suggest restarting from the Activity Monitor Daemons tab - when it dies it seems to dump core in root for some reason.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 11:05 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] (0) TRANSIENT (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/TRANSIENT:1.0) After waiting 4 hours for Symantec to call back on a sev 1 problem I decided I would ask the real experts. Has anyone seen the above message and do you have a clue as to what it might mean. All I can find is that it might be related to PBX, but bpxcfg returns what it is supposed to and the service shows it's running. This is on a windows 2003 server. vxlogview -o 103 show that is trying to proxy to nbpem, but fails, and there is only one nbproxy running. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Patrick ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] ZFS Filesystem Backups - Tips and tricks
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Mark Glazerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thanks for that info. I wonder why the Symantec support rep I talked with yesterday made it sound like there were no plans to support ZFS filesystem backups in future releases unless a lot more people pushed for it ? Could he be referring to officially supporting ZFS rather than fixing the ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES issue ? I would challenge that claim - I suspect the support rep you talked to didn't know what he/she was talking about. After all, ZFS ACLs are officially supported as documented in the client compatibility technote at ftp://exftpp.symantec.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server/278064.pdf. There's nothing in the technote that says that ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES will fail to discover ZFS volumes. That said, since Symantec acknowledged the bug with an ETRACK, and fixed it, it is obvious that they're is committed to supporting ZFS. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] ZFS Filesystem Backups - Tips and tricks
Ed, I've actually had a guy at Symantec contact me through the mailing list and say that there are binaries available which should resolve this issue. I'm beginning to think that the support rep didn't know what the deal was with ZFS support because he actually sent me the document you referenced as a way to demonstrate that ZFS is NOT supported. When I looked at the document, it seemed to fly in the face of what he was telling me. Mark Glazerman Desk: 314-889-8282 Cell: 618-520-3401 P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 11:17 AM To: Mark Glazerman Cc: Bryan S. Leaman; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] ZFS Filesystem Backups - Tips and tricks On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Mark Glazerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for that info. I wonder why the Symantec support rep I talked with yesterday made it sound like there were no plans to support ZFS filesystem backups in future releases unless a lot more people pushed for it ? Could he be referring to officially supporting ZFS rather than fixing the ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES issue ? I would challenge that claim - I suspect the support rep you talked to didn't know what he/she was talking about. After all, ZFS ACLs are officially supported as documented in the client compatibility technote at ftp://exftpp.symantec.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Serv er/278064.pdf. There's nothing in the technote that says that ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES will fail to discover ZFS volumes. That said, since Symantec acknowledged the bug with an ETRACK, and fixed it, it is obvious that they're is committed to supporting ZFS. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] (0) TRANSIENT (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/TRANSIENT:1.0)
Call support again and raze the case to severity 1 (server down). You will speak with a tech immediately stefanos -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 6:05 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] (0) TRANSIENT (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/TRANSIENT:1.0) After waiting 4 hours for Symantec to call back on a sev 1 problem I decided I would ask the real experts. Has anyone seen the above message and do you have a clue as to what it might mean. All I can find is that it might be related to PBX, but bpxcfg returns what it is supposed to and the service shows it's running. This is on a windows 2003 server. vxlogview -o 103 show that is trying to proxy to nbpem, but fails, and there is only one nbproxy running. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Patrick ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Fixed (not resolved) RE: (0) TRANSIENT (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/TRANSIENT:1.0)
Well, we did the three finger salute (remember it's a windoze box), and now everyting is working. I did work with Symantec for over an hour and learned many new things, but in the end the reboot fixed it. Thanks for all the replies. Regards, Patrick Call support again and raze the case to severity 1 (server down). You will speak with a tech immediately stefanos -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 6:05 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] (0) TRANSIENT (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/TRANSIENT:1.0) After waiting 4 hours for Symantec to call back on a sev 1 problem I decided I would ask the real experts. Has anyone seen the above message and do you have a clue as to what it might mean. All I can find is that it might be related to PBX, but bpxcfg returns what it is supposed to and the service shows it's running. This is on a windows 2003 server. vxlogview -o 103 show that is trying to proxy to nbpem, but fails, and there is only one nbproxy running. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Patrick ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup
Thank you all for your inputs! I am restoring using the bp restore command. All the mount points are selected for the one restore job. ./bprestore -C client -D source -f /tmp/restorefiles -R /tmp/rename -l -L /var/tmp/restore.out The policy is configured to multiplex five streams to one tape drive. There is only one client in the policy. The file list looks like: /mount/point/1 /mount/point/2 /mount/point/3 /mount/point/4 /mount/point/6 /mount/point/6 and so on NBU version is 6.0 MP4. When I do the restore I am expecting to see all streams as separate jobs in the activity monitor. Sounds like I may need to use separate bprestore commands for each mount point? Hopefully this will not cause additional mounts/unmounts... Thanks again, Jeremy On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, smpt wrote: Do you select all mount points at the same restore? If yes, then you will see only one job, but netbackup will restore all files in one tape pass. Good questions, forgot to ask them :) If you start 5 restores the you have to be fast (every restore must start within 30 sec, by default). This can be changed from master server properties. MPX_RESTORE_DELAY = 30 Yup, change it in bp.conf. stefanos From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Finn Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:26 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup Hello, I have a standard backup policy configured to stream five mount points to one tape drive. This is working fine. When I do the restore, I only see one stream restoring at a time. Is it possible to restore the five streams of data from the multiplexed tape at the same time? Other backup softwarescan do this so I assume Netbackup can as well... if some could please point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. My environment looks like this: Master: Solaris 10 on SPARC Media Server: HP-UX on PA-RISC Source Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Target Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Multistream = 5 Multiplex = 5 One LTO-1 tape drive Thank you in advance for any insights. Jeremy ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup
It's been a while since I tested this, but _I_ remember that if you wanted it to restore the way he wants, you HAD to issue five different restores at the same time and use the restore delay feature to start them at the same time. If you just selected five directories, it did them one at a time. That's why I always did my multi-filesystem restores as a loop for I in /a /b /c /d /e do bprestore $I done Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com http://www.glasshouse.com/ Infrastructure :: Optimized From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of smpt Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 6:30 AM To: 'Jeremy Finn'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup Do you select all mount points at the same restore? If yes, then you will see only one job, but netbackup will restore all files in one tape pass. If you start 5 restores the you have to be fast (every restore must start within 30 sec, by default). This can be changed from master server properties. stefanos From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Finn Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:26 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup Hello, I have a standard backup policy configured to stream five mount points to one tape drive. This is working fine. When I do the restore, I only see one stream restoring at a time. Is it possible to restore the five streams of data from the multiplexed tape at the same time? Other backup softwarescan do this so I assume Netbackup can as well... if some could please point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. My environment looks like this: Master: Solaris 10 on SPARC Media Server: HP-UX on PA-RISC Source Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Target Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Multistream = 5 Multiplex = 5 One LTO-1 tape drive Thank you in advance for any insights. Jeremy This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup
Even if it's restoring all the filesystems simultaneously, you'll only see one job if you only kick off one restore. I suggest you use my for loop example, as it's very easy to type and you don't have to worry about the restore delay, as they'll all be issued within a second of each other. Also, another reason why I always did my multi-filesystem restores in a loop was that when one of them failed, you knew which one and you could just fix and rerun that one. Doing them all in the same job makes reporting a bit muddled. Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com http://www.glasshouse.com/ Infrastructure :: Optimized From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Finn Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:19 AM To: Justin Piszcz Cc: smpt; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup Thank you all for your inputs! I am restoring using the bp restore command. All the mount points are selected for the one restore job. ./bprestore -C client -D source -f /tmp/restorefiles -R /tmp/rename -l -L /var/tmp/restore.out The policy is configured to multiplex five streams to one tape drive. There is only one client in the policy. The file list looks like: /mount/point/1 /mount/point/2 /mount/point/3 /mount/point/4 /mount/point/6 /mount/point/6 and so on NBU version is 6.0 MP4. When I do the restore I am expecting to see all streams as separate jobs in the activity monitor. Sounds like I may need to use separate bprestore commands for each mount point? Hopefully this will not cause additional mounts/unmounts... Thanks again, Jeremy On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, smpt wrote: Do you select all mount points at the same restore? If yes, then you will see only one job, but netbackup will restore all files in one tape pass. Good questions, forgot to ask them :) If you start 5 restores the you have to be fast (every restore must start within 30 sec, by default). This can be changed from master server properties. MPX_RESTORE_DELAY = 30 Yup, change it in bp.conf. stefanos From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Finn Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:26 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup Hello, I have a standard backup policy configured to stream five mount points to one tape drive. This is working fine. When I do the restore, I only see one stream restoring at a time. Is it possible to restore the five streams of data from the multiplexed tape at the same time? Other backup softwarescan do this so I assume Netbackup can as well... if some could please point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. My environment looks like this: Master: Solaris 10 on SPARC Media Server: HP-UX on PA-RISC Source Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Target Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Multistream = 5 Multiplex = 5 One LTO-1 tape drive Thank you in advance for any insights. Jeremy This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup
Curtis, Thank you for your reply. I have tried your suggestion and it is working. I see a slight performance increase when doing the mpx restore now, which should translate to higher gains when restoring more data. One more question for everyone: I need to rename files as well. Is the best option to use bprestore -R renamefile or is there another trick that works better? Can I use the same rename file for each bprestore command or should I make one for each stream? Thanks again, Jeremy On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Curtis Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It's been a while since I tested this, but _*I*_ remember that if you wanted it to restore the way he wants, you HAD to issue five different restores at the same time and use the restore delay feature to start them at the same time. If you just selected five directories, it did them one at a time. That's why I always did my multi-filesystem restores as a loop for I in /a /b /c /d /e do bprestore $I done *Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection** *GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com *Infrastructure :: Optimized * -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *smpt *Sent:* Friday, August 01, 2008 6:30 AM *To:* 'Jeremy Finn'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup Do you select all mount points at the same restore? If yes, then you will see only one job, but netbackup will restore all files in one tape pass. If you start 5 restores the you have to be fast (every restore must start within 30 sec, by default). This can be changed from master server properties. stefanos *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy Finn *Sent:* Friday, August 01, 2008 3:26 PM *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup Hello, I have a standard backup policy configured to stream five mount points to one tape drive. This is working fine. When I do the restore, I only see one stream restoring at a time. Is it possible to restore the five streams of data from the multiplexed tape at the same time? Other backup softwarescan do this so I assume Netbackup can as well... if some could please point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. My environment looks like this: Master: Solaris 10 on SPARC Media Server: HP-UX on PA-RISC Source Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Target Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Multistream = 5 Multiplex = 5 One LTO-1 tape drive Thank you in advance for any insights. Jeremy This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup
Nope, that's the only way. Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com http://www.glasshouse.com/ Infrastructure :: Optimized From: Jeremy Finn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:35 AM To: Curtis Preston Cc: smpt; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup Curtis, Thank you for your reply. I have tried your suggestion and it is working. I see a slight performance increase when doing the mpx restore now, which should translate to higher gains when restoring more data. One more question for everyone: I need to rename files as well. Is the best option to use bprestore -R renamefile or is there another trick that works better? Can I use the same rename file for each bprestore command or should I make one for each stream? Thanks again, Jeremy On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Curtis Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been a while since I tested this, but _I_ remember that if you wanted it to restore the way he wants, you HAD to issue five different restores at the same time and use the restore delay feature to start them at the same time. If you just selected five directories, it did them one at a time. That's why I always did my multi-filesystem restores as a loop for I in /a /b /c /d /e do bprestore $I done Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com http://www.glasshouse.com/ Infrastructure :: Optimized From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of smpt Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 6:30 AM To: 'Jeremy Finn'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup Do you select all mount points at the same restore? If yes, then you will see only one job, but netbackup will restore all files in one tape pass. If you start 5 restores the you have to be fast (every restore must start within 30 sec, by default). This can be changed from master server properties. stefanos From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Finn Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:26 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup Hello, I have a standard backup policy configured to stream five mount points to one tape drive. This is working fine. When I do the restore, I only see one stream restoring at a time. Is it possible to restore the five streams of data from the multiplexed tape at the same time? Other backup softwarescan do this so I assume Netbackup can as well... if some could please point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. My environment looks like this: Master: Solaris 10 on SPARC Media Server: HP-UX on PA-RISC Source Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Target Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Multistream = 5 Multiplex = 5 One LTO-1 tape drive Thank you in advance for any insights. Jeremy This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpschedreq in 6.5
I would love to see that script! Thanks! -Kevin -Original Message- From: schmaustech [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:59 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Bpschedreq in 6.5 I wrote a Perl scriot that allows you to determine which policies and schedules will kick off on a given day. It also can display a histogram of how many jobs per hour are kicked off. Let me know if interested. +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Bpschedreq in 6.5
Please send Doug Preston Systems Engineer LandAmerica Financial Group, Inc. - A Fortune 2008 Most Admired Company #1 in Mortgage Services Two Years in a Row 1123 South Park View DR, Covina CA 91724 Phone 626-339-5221 Ext 1104 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute a communication that is legally privileged. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address record can be corrected. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of schmaustech Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:59 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Bpschedreq in 6.5 I wrote a Perl scriot that allows you to determine which policies and schedules will kick off on a given day. It also can display a histogram of how many jobs per hour are kicked off. Let me know if interested. +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Do we use NetBackup because it's a good product or because it's less awful than its competition
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 12:29 PM, JAJA (Jamie Jamison) [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I also have to wonder, given my experiences and the experiences of others that I have read about, if Symantec does any testing whatsoever before they release new versions of the product. Having been personally involved in some of these tests, and having a good working relationship with some of the engineering staff located a few miles from here, I can tell you without a doubt that massive testing takes place before each and every release. It may feel like they haven't tested the exact combination you're running, and it's probably because they haven't. They test a *LOT*, but there are far more permutations out there than we can even imagine. Multiple each combination of the following: architecture, operating system, version, service packs, drivers, tape drives and their drivers, robots, storage unit types. storage platforms, and then keep multiplying and multiplying. Then multiple by the number of things that a customer could possibly do from installing other software on their master or media servers (throwing off shared files, kernel settings, timing) to weird and wonderful ways customers have manipulated policies and databases and you're just starting to get the hang of it. Just today I was trying to install a NetBackup client on a Pentium II 400Mhz system with 256MB of memory running Windows 2000. And oh, it already has hardware and resource problems. The installer hung. Yes, I could log a call with Symantec and complain, and I could fight with them to get a patch because it's officially a supported configuration, but is that the best use of my time and their time? Of course not. Do I expect that Symantec tested this supported configuration? Of course not - any reasonable organization would have upgraded that old piece of crap many years ago. Some other vendors don't support a configuration that they didn't test. That's a nice approach, but it sure does limit what you can buy. Would you be happy if they threw out much of their supported environment so they can test what they do support? If that's what you want, buy a best of breed product for each of your operating systems and hope for the best. The last I heard, there were over 60 million lines of code in NetBackup. If you think developing and testing a product of the size of NetBackup is easy, you're wrong. Windows Server 2003 has about 50 million lines of code and there were 2,000 developers with 2,400 members in the test team. And I suspect you've heard about a critical bug or two in Windows. I've run into more major show-stopper bugs in 10 months of using NetBackup 6.x than I did in three years of using 5.x. and I'm not the only one. No you're not. 6.x has had some significant bugs - I won't dispute that at all. Even 6.5.2A had at least one show-stopper bug for us but Symantec responded quickly with a patch. You're the expert when it comes to your own environment. If you want a higher likelihood that what you put into production will be bug-free for the way you drive it, you need your own test environment. Yes, that costs money and it takes time to test. Each of us uses the product in a different way - that's the advantage as well as the disadvantage of a product as powerful as NetBackup. There is no right answer here. Symantec wants to have a product that supports everything but they can't test everything and still move forward with timely releases. That's a fact of life. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] nb admin job market
i apologize if there's a thread on this subject already but i wanted to get a sense of the job market for nb admins. is there a demand for nb admins or not, what are average salaries by region, is this something to get in to and stay in, etc. what are your thoughts? thanks +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Problems Uninstalling BMR 6.5.2
I upgraded my Solaris 10 NetBackup master to 6.5.2A by doing a clean install of 6.5 and then upgrading to 6.5.2A and everything went well up until the point where I wanted to start backups. nbemm would not start and nothing I could do would make it start nor would it run in console mode. I tried rolling back to 6.5 and was able to successfully uninstall patches until I got to uninstalling BMR. When I run NB.update.uninstall to uninstall BMR I get an error message that says: Running preuninstall script. See /usr/openv/pack/pack.history for more details. /usr/openv/pack/NB_BMR_6.5.2/save/VrtsNB_BMR_6.5.2.preuninstall: Running. Hardware/OS Type=Solaris/Solaris10 Downgrading NBDB: /usr/openv/db/bin/nbdb_upgrade -dbn BMRDB -downgrade ERROR: /usr/openv/db/bin/nbdb_upgrade -dbn BMRDB -downgrade command failed. Unable to downgrade database to original level. Refer to the log file in /usr/openv/netbackup/logs/nbdb for more information. Rerun Vrts_pack.uninstall once the problem has been resolved. Pack uninstall failure. Exiting NB_update.uninstall Then if I try to manually run the command to downgrade the BMR database I get the following error message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on (pts/6) at 00:10:36, Fri Aug 01 /usr/openv/pack/NB_BMR_6.5.2/save 174 /usr/openv/db/bin/nbdb_upgrade -dbn BMRDB -downgrade Verifying the running version of BMRDB ... Verification Failed. So at this point I'm stuck because I can't finish the rollback to 6.5 from 6.5.2A. Fortunately I was able to fall back to my current 6.0 environment and start backups so I'm not totally screwed but I do need to get 6.5 running. Is there a way I can just do a complete and total uninstall of 6.5 instead of just a rollback from the current, broken 6.5.2A install to see if I can get that running? As always thanks in advance for any help, advice or commiseration you can send my way. Jamie Jamison Network Systems Administrator ZymoGenetics ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] ZFS Filesystem Backups - Tips and tricks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Incase anyone is considering implementing any ZFS in their environment which they want to back up using NetBackup we found out yesterday that ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES as the backup selection does NOT cover ZFS filesystems. Hmm, what version are you running? We're at 6.0MP4, and we have a number of policies backing up systems with ZFS, using ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES, and the ZFS filesystems are indeed being backed up. I just restored a file from such a filesystem on our master/media server, since you got my attention this a.m. (:-). Said master server has /opt/openv/ on ZFS, in fact. Some quick spot-check restores on a couple other clients also worked. Some of these policies have multistreaming enabled, and some do not. Some have exclude files and some do not. Some have True Image Restore enabled and some do not. All are Solaris-10, and all have UFS root filesystems (no ZFS root/boot yet, no OpenSolaris yet). So, whatever the problem is, we don't appear to be experiencing it. Regards, Marion ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] nb admin job market
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:41 PM, X_S [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: i apologize if there's a thread on this subject already but i wanted to get a sense of the job market for nb admins. is there a demand for nb admins or not, what are average salaries by region, is this something to get in to and stay in, etc. Businesses will have backup requirements for many years. Probably until after both of us are retired... A quick search on LinkedIn for netbackup found 25 jobs. Expanding that to a web search within LinkedIn found 2,671 jobs. There's work out there, but some of these jobs are not for people with only NetBackup skills - some/many are combined with system or storage administration work. The average salaries are best found by referring to something like Certification Magazine or one of the many other rags that advertise averages. You'll be paid at what you can negotiate based on what you're worth. Why aim for average pay? :-) There's a career to be had in NetBackup. If you're good at NetBackup but decide to switch to another enterprise backup product later in your career, that should not be too hard - it's not the syntax that counts but the ability to understand the root cause of an issue and resolve it, and to implement the right stuff to address the business needs. Always focus on the business requirements and not the technology. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup
There is another way: When you restore from the GUI it _does_ restore in parallel properly. Justin. On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Curtis Preston wrote: Nope, that's the only way. Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com http://www.glasshouse.com/ Infrastructure :: Optimized From: Jeremy Finn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:35 AM To: Curtis Preston Cc: smpt; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup Curtis, Thank you for your reply. I have tried your suggestion and it is working. I see a slight performance increase when doing the mpx restore now, which should translate to higher gains when restoring more data. One more question for everyone: I need to rename files as well. Is the best option to use bprestore -R renamefile or is there another trick that works better? Can I use the same rename file for each bprestore command or should I make one for each stream? Thanks again, Jeremy On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Curtis Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been a while since I tested this, but _I_ remember that if you wanted it to restore the way he wants, you HAD to issue five different restores at the same time and use the restore delay feature to start them at the same time. If you just selected five directories, it did them one at a time. That's why I always did my multi-filesystem restores as a loop for I in /a /b /c /d /e do bprestore $I done Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies, Inc. T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.glasshouse.com http://www.glasshouse.com/ Infrastructure :: Optimized From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of smpt Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 6:30 AM To: 'Jeremy Finn'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup Do you select all mount points at the same restore? If yes, then you will see only one job, but netbackup will restore all files in one tape pass. If you start 5 restores the you have to be fast (every restore must start within 30 sec, by default). This can be changed from master server properties. stefanos From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Finn Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:26 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup Hello, I have a standard backup policy configured to stream five mount points to one tape drive. This is working fine. When I do the restore, I only see one stream restoring at a time. Is it possible to restore the five streams of data from the multiplexed tape at the same time? Other backup softwarescan do this so I assume Netbackup can as well... if some could please point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. My environment looks like this: Master: Solaris 10 on SPARC Media Server: HP-UX on PA-RISC Source Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Target Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC Multistream = 5 Multiplex = 5 One LTO-1 tape drive Thank you in advance for any insights. Jeremy This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] nb admin job market
In some places the System Admins are the NBU admins. In others the NBU admins are a specialized team. In the 4 places I've worked where NBU was installed only one of them had separate NBU Admins. However, I frequently get inquiries from headhunters so it lets me know there is a market for NBU Admins (or more properly backup specialists - they may use other technologies in addition to NBU). I can't give you an idea on the salary range though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of X_S Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 2:41 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] nb admin job market i apologize if there's a thread on this subject already but i wanted to get a sense of the job market for nb admins. is there a demand for nb admins or not, what are average salaries by region, is this something to get in to and stay in, etc. what are your thoughts? thanks +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Bpschedreq in 6.5
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[Veritas-bu] nb admin job market
In some of the environments I have been in, Netbackup Admins are usually rolled into the storage group. So if someone is already doing Netbackup and has the storage skills with Hitachi, EMC or Netapp, there will most certainly be a job available for them. +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NetBackup Oracle agent versus rman
I agree with Dean. The RMAN binaries for Oracle are not altered when you install the Netbackup Oracle client. The Netbackup Oracle client basically provides a front end for the RMAN interface. +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
