[Veritas-bu] Where is the 6.5.3 Oracle Agent?

2009-01-07 Thread Justin Piszcz
lftp 
ftp.nbu.support.veritas.com:/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server 
ls -1 | grep 6.5|grep ORA
NB_ORA_51_2_M_274695.linux64.tar
NB_ORA_51_7_M.hpia64_302615.tar
NB_ORA_6.5.1_294667.tar
NB_ORA_6.5.2_304438.tar
lftp 
ftp.nbu.support.veritas.com:/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server

While all of the other 6.5.3 packages are there?
lftp 
ftp.nbu.support.veritas.com:/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server 
ls -1 | grep 6.5.3
NBLU_6.5.3.UNIX_1of3_314651.zip
NBLU_6.5.3.UNIX_2of3_314652.zip
NBLU_6.5.3.UNIX_3of3_314653.zip
NBLU_6.5.3.WINia64_314616.zip
NBLU_6.5.3.WINx64_314617.zip
NBLU_6.5.3.WINx86_314618.zip
NB_6.5.3.ONLINE_README_JA_316556.zip
NB_6.5.3.ONLINE_README_ZH_316558.zip
NB_6.5.3.alpha_5_314578.tar
NB_6.5.3.hp_ux_314579.tar
NB_6.5.3.hpia64_314580.tar
NB_6.5.3.linuxR_ia64_314582.tar
NB_6.5.3.linuxR_x86_314583.tar
NB_6.5.3.linuxS_ia64_314584.tar
NB_6.5.3.linuxS_x86_314585.tar
NB_6.5.3.linux_314581.tar
NB_6.5.3.rs6000_314586.tar
NB_6.5.3.solaris_314587.tar
NB_6.5.3.solaris_x86_314588.tar
NB_6.5.3.winnt.IA64_314589.exe
NB_6.5.3.winnt.x64_314590.exe
NB_6.5.3.winnt.x86_314591.exe
NB_6.5.3_DebugSymbols.winnt.x64_314663.exe
NB_6.5.3_JA_316437.tgz
NB_6.5.3_ZH_316454.tgz
NB_BBS_6.5.3_314593.tar
NB_BMR_6.5.3_314594.tar
NB_CLT_6.5.3_314595.tar
NB_DB2_6.5.3_314597.tar
NB_DMP_6.5.3_314598.tar
NB_INX_6.5.3_314599.tar
NB_JAV_6.5.3.winnt.IA64_314601.exe
NB_JAV_6.5.3.winnt.x86_314602.exe
NB_JAV_6.5.3_314600.tar
NB_LOT_6.5.3_314603.tar
NB_LUA_6.5.3_314604.tar
NB_NOM_6.5.3.winnt.x86_314606.exe
NB_NOM_6.5.3_314605.tar
NB_SAP_6.5.3_314607.tar
NB_SNC_6.5.3_314609.tar
NB_VLT_6.5.3_314610.tar
NB_VMS_6.5.3_314611.zip
NB_VxAT_6.5.3_314659.zip
NB_VxAZ_6.5.3_314660.zip

Justin.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Where is the 6.5.3 Oracle Agent?

2009-01-07 Thread Larry Fahnoe
Justin,

If the Oracle agent did not change from the prior release, Symantec
does not re-kit and re-release a new version.  As far as I know, there
is not a 6.5.3 Oracle agent; we're using the 6.5.2 agents in our
environment.

--Larry

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:02 AM, Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.com wrote:
 lftp 
 ftp.nbu.support.veritas.com:/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server
  ls -1 | grep 6.5|grep ORA
 NB_ORA_51_2_M_274695.linux64.tar
 NB_ORA_51_7_M.hpia64_302615.tar
 NB_ORA_6.5.1_294667.tar
 NB_ORA_6.5.2_304438.tar
 lftp 
 ftp.nbu.support.veritas.com:/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server

 While all of the other 6.5.3 packages are there?
 lftp 
 ftp.nbu.support.veritas.com:/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server
  ls -1 | grep 6.5.3
 NBLU_6.5.3.UNIX_1of3_314651.zip
 NBLU_6.5.3.UNIX_2of3_314652.zip
 NBLU_6.5.3.UNIX_3of3_314653.zip
 NBLU_6.5.3.WINia64_314616.zip
 NBLU_6.5.3.WINx64_314617.zip
 NBLU_6.5.3.WINx86_314618.zip
 NB_6.5.3.ONLINE_README_JA_316556.zip
 NB_6.5.3.ONLINE_README_ZH_316558.zip
 NB_6.5.3.alpha_5_314578.tar
 NB_6.5.3.hp_ux_314579.tar
 NB_6.5.3.hpia64_314580.tar
 NB_6.5.3.linuxR_ia64_314582.tar
 NB_6.5.3.linuxR_x86_314583.tar
 NB_6.5.3.linuxS_ia64_314584.tar
 NB_6.5.3.linuxS_x86_314585.tar
 NB_6.5.3.linux_314581.tar
 NB_6.5.3.rs6000_314586.tar
 NB_6.5.3.solaris_314587.tar
 NB_6.5.3.solaris_x86_314588.tar
 NB_6.5.3.winnt.IA64_314589.exe
 NB_6.5.3.winnt.x64_314590.exe
 NB_6.5.3.winnt.x86_314591.exe
 NB_6.5.3_DebugSymbols.winnt.x64_314663.exe
 NB_6.5.3_JA_316437.tgz
 NB_6.5.3_ZH_316454.tgz
 NB_BBS_6.5.3_314593.tar
 NB_BMR_6.5.3_314594.tar
 NB_CLT_6.5.3_314595.tar
 NB_DB2_6.5.3_314597.tar
 NB_DMP_6.5.3_314598.tar
 NB_INX_6.5.3_314599.tar
 NB_JAV_6.5.3.winnt.IA64_314601.exe
 NB_JAV_6.5.3.winnt.x86_314602.exe
 NB_JAV_6.5.3_314600.tar
 NB_LOT_6.5.3_314603.tar
 NB_LUA_6.5.3_314604.tar
 NB_NOM_6.5.3.winnt.x86_314606.exe
 NB_NOM_6.5.3_314605.tar
 NB_SAP_6.5.3_314607.tar
 NB_SNC_6.5.3_314609.tar
 NB_VLT_6.5.3_314610.tar
 NB_VMS_6.5.3_314611.zip
 NB_VxAT_6.5.3_314659.zip
 NB_VxAZ_6.5.3_314660.zip

 Justin.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Where is the 6.5.3 Oracle Agent?

2009-01-07 Thread Justin Piszcz
Thanks Larry.

Justin.

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Larry Fahnoe wrote:

 Justin,

 If the Oracle agent did not change from the prior release, Symantec
 does not re-kit and re-release a new version.  As far as I know, there
 is not a 6.5.3 Oracle agent; we're using the 6.5.2 agents in our
 environment.

 --Larry

 On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:02 AM, Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.com wrote:
 lftp 
 ftp.nbu.support.veritas.com:/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server
  ls -1 | grep 6.5|grep ORA
 NB_ORA_51_2_M_274695.linux64.tar
 NB_ORA_51_7_M.hpia64_302615.tar
 NB_ORA_6.5.1_294667.tar
 NB_ORA_6.5.2_304438.tar
 lftp 
 ftp.nbu.support.veritas.com:/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server

 While all of the other 6.5.3 packages are there?
 lftp 
 ftp.nbu.support.veritas.com:/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server
  ls -1 | grep 6.5.3
 NBLU_6.5.3.UNIX_1of3_314651.zip
 NBLU_6.5.3.UNIX_2of3_314652.zip
 NBLU_6.5.3.UNIX_3of3_314653.zip
 NBLU_6.5.3.WINia64_314616.zip
 NBLU_6.5.3.WINx64_314617.zip
 NBLU_6.5.3.WINx86_314618.zip
 NB_6.5.3.ONLINE_README_JA_316556.zip
 NB_6.5.3.ONLINE_README_ZH_316558.zip
 NB_6.5.3.alpha_5_314578.tar
 NB_6.5.3.hp_ux_314579.tar
 NB_6.5.3.hpia64_314580.tar
 NB_6.5.3.linuxR_ia64_314582.tar
 NB_6.5.3.linuxR_x86_314583.tar
 NB_6.5.3.linuxS_ia64_314584.tar
 NB_6.5.3.linuxS_x86_314585.tar
 NB_6.5.3.linux_314581.tar
 NB_6.5.3.rs6000_314586.tar
 NB_6.5.3.solaris_314587.tar
 NB_6.5.3.solaris_x86_314588.tar
 NB_6.5.3.winnt.IA64_314589.exe
 NB_6.5.3.winnt.x64_314590.exe
 NB_6.5.3.winnt.x86_314591.exe
 NB_6.5.3_DebugSymbols.winnt.x64_314663.exe
 NB_6.5.3_JA_316437.tgz
 NB_6.5.3_ZH_316454.tgz
 NB_BBS_6.5.3_314593.tar
 NB_BMR_6.5.3_314594.tar
 NB_CLT_6.5.3_314595.tar
 NB_DB2_6.5.3_314597.tar
 NB_DMP_6.5.3_314598.tar
 NB_INX_6.5.3_314599.tar
 NB_JAV_6.5.3.winnt.IA64_314601.exe
 NB_JAV_6.5.3.winnt.x86_314602.exe
 NB_JAV_6.5.3_314600.tar
 NB_LOT_6.5.3_314603.tar
 NB_LUA_6.5.3_314604.tar
 NB_NOM_6.5.3.winnt.x86_314606.exe
 NB_NOM_6.5.3_314605.tar
 NB_SAP_6.5.3_314607.tar
 NB_SNC_6.5.3_314609.tar
 NB_VLT_6.5.3_314610.tar
 NB_VMS_6.5.3_314611.zip
 NB_VxAT_6.5.3_314659.zip
 NB_VxAZ_6.5.3_314660.zip

 Justin.

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[Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5.x oddity: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict

2009-01-07 Thread Justin Piszcz
Anyone ever seen this before?

I have 4 servers, 2 old and 2 new, all run 6.5.2a, now 6.5.3 as of this 
morning.  I see this error occur in the logs a few moments after midnight, 
every night.  I did notice mt-st was not installed on the machines that 
were getting this error, so I installed that and we'll see if the issue 
recurs for tomorrow; however, was curious if anyone had seen this?

The first host has two directly-attached fiber drives:
Jan  4 00:02:19 host1 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
Jan  5 00:01:19 host1 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
Jan  5 00:01:47 host1 kernel: st 1:0:0:0: reservation conflict
Jan  6 00:01:18 host1 kernel: st 1:0:0:0: reservation conflict
Jan  6 00:02:18 host1 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
Jan  7 00:01:18 host1 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
Jan  7 00:02:20 host1 kernel: st 1:0:0:0: reservation conflict

The second host has one directly-attached fiber drive:
Jan  1 00:00:45 host2 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
Jan  2 00:02:13 host2 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
Jan  3 00:00:44 host2 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
Jan  4 00:00:45 host2 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
Jan  5 00:00:45 host2 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
Jan  6 00:00:44 host2 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
Jan  7 00:00:44 host2 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict

The two servers are setup identical for the most part as the other two 
with the exception noted above for sotware.  For hardware they are using 
newer HBAs etc.  However, in 6.5.x I also see the SCSI reservation option 
has changed:

In 6.0MP7:
Go to Master Server Properties - Media

[x] Enable SCSI reserve / release

In 6.5.x:
Go to Master Server Properties - Media

[x] Enable SCSI reserve
(o) SPC-2 SCSI reserve
( ) SCSI Persistent reserve

1. Do you think the issue was caused by the absence of the mt-st package 
on the two hosts?
2. Or, are the two newer servers (with newer/different qlogic fiber 
cards), do they need a specific settings, perhaps SCSI Persistent reserve 
and not SPC-2 SCSI reserve?

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5.x oddity: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict

2009-01-07 Thread Justin Piszcz


On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Justin Piszcz wrote:

 Anyone ever seen this before?

 I have 4 servers, 2 old and 2 new, all run 6.5.2a, now 6.5.3 as of this 
 morning.  I see this error occur in the logs a few moments after midnight, 
 every night.  I did notice mt-st was not installed on the machines that were 
 getting this error, so I installed that and we'll see if the issue recurs for 
 tomorrow; however, was curious if anyone had seen this?

 The first host has two directly-attached fiber drives:
 Jan  4 00:02:19 host1 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
 Jan  5 00:01:19 host1 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
 Jan  5 00:01:47 host1 kernel: st 1:0:0:0: reservation conflict
 Jan  6 00:01:18 host1 kernel: st 1:0:0:0: reservation conflict
 Jan  6 00:02:18 host1 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
 Jan  7 00:01:18 host1 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
 Jan  7 00:02:20 host1 kernel: st 1:0:0:0: reservation conflict

 The second host has one directly-attached fiber drive:
 Jan  1 00:00:45 host2 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
 Jan  2 00:02:13 host2 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
 Jan  3 00:00:44 host2 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
 Jan  4 00:00:45 host2 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
 Jan  5 00:00:45 host2 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
 Jan  6 00:00:44 host2 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict
 Jan  7 00:00:44 host2 kernel: st 0:0:0:0: reservation conflict

 The two servers are setup identical for the most part as the other two with 
 the exception noted above for sotware.  For hardware they are using newer 
 HBAs etc.  However, in 6.5.x I also see the SCSI reservation option has 
 changed:

 In 6.0MP7:
 Go to Master Server Properties - Media

 [x] Enable SCSI reserve / release

 In 6.5.x:
 Go to Master Server Properties - Media

 [x] Enable SCSI reserve
 (o) SPC-2 SCSI reserve
 ( ) SCSI Persistent reserve

 1. Do you think the issue was caused by the absence of the mt-st package on 
 the two hosts?
 2. Or, are the two newer servers (with newer/different qlogic fiber cards), 
 do they need a specific settings, perhaps SCSI Persistent reserve and not 
 SPC-2 SCSI reserve?

 Justin.


Minor addition: It is occuring on all four servers, the kernel ring 
buffer aka (dmesg) was filled up with other miscellaneous items, I will 
change the SCSI reserve to be persistent and see if the errors persist.

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] socket read and write error

2009-01-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
If the clients are UNIX or Linux you can try doing login from the master
to the client then doing a check to see from which IP or hostname the
login appears on the client.  If it shows IP instead of hostname it
might be a sign the IP isn't recognized as the master's hostname.

-Original Message-
From: monalisa.ku...@wipro.com [mailto:monalisa.ku...@wipro.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:11 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] socket read and write error

Hi,

Thanks fr the reply bt we have not made any change in the n/w but all
the bkps except the catalog are failing fr all clients.The customer is
saying tht they have not done any chnge to their n/w bt from last week
the bkp is failing.I can tell you tht it is running with NBU version 5.0
and solaris as the master server Os. 


thanks  regards,
 
Monalisa Kundu | ES-Practice Engineer | Wipro
No.30, Divyasree Mission Road, Ist Main, S.R.Nagar
Bangalore-560026
Mobile No.:09731398129
 

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] socket read and write error

I saw a lot of these recently (and status 25 as well).  It was because
our master had two NICs in our backup LAN IP range and the routing we'd
setup had gotten screwed up.   I was able to solve it temporarily by
adding the master server twice to /etc/hosts on the clients that were
failing using both the IPs from the NICs on the master.  That way
regardless of which IP the traffic came from the client would see it as
the master.

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] socket read and write error


can anyone tell me what can be the reason of socket read and write error
with error code 23 and 24 in NBU.

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[Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

2009-01-07 Thread Justin Piszcz
Had a few questions.

1. How do you handle it?
2. You can send tapes off-site to Iron Mountain, degauss them before you 
send them off-site, that is one option.
3. How much are the machines that securely and physically destroy the 
tape media?
4. If they're physically destroyed, how do you deal with the tape shards, 
how do you dispose of the material?

How do others on this list deal with bad tapes (with thousands of errors 
etc) how do you properly dispose of them?

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

2009-01-07 Thread James Osbourn
I the past when I have had to get rid of a bunch of old media.  I did 
some net searching and found a company that specifically dealt with this 
as well as equipment recycling.

They agreed a price for the amount of tapes that I had; collected them 
and then they were confidentially destroyed.  I believe they were put in 
a furnace.  We were then issued with a certificate of destruction as proof.

This avoided any messing around with degaussing, erasing etc.

James

Justin Piszcz wrote:
 Had a few questions.
 
 1. How do you handle it?
 2. You can send tapes off-site to Iron Mountain, degauss them before you 
 send them off-site, that is one option.
 3. How much are the machines that securely and physically destroy the 
 tape media?
 4. If they're physically destroyed, how do you deal with the tape shards, 
 how do you dispose of the material?
 
 How do others on this list deal with bad tapes (with thousands of errors 
 etc) how do you properly dispose of them?
 
 Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

2009-01-07 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.comwrote:


 1. How do you handle it?
 2. You can send tapes off-site to Iron Mountain, degauss them before you
 send them off-site, that is one option.


Iron Mountain also offers a tape destruction service.  For a fee, of
course.


 3. How much are the machines that securely and physically destroy the
 tape media?
 4. If they're physically destroyed, how do you deal with the tape shards,
 how do you dispose of the material?


That's why we pay a fee to have it done.  So we don't have to deal with the
garbage.

We have never to worry about degausing tapes because for starters, we
encrypt all of them.  Even if they sit on a pallet here waiting for enough
tapes to be sent out for destruction, we're still okay.  That's one of the
many advantages with an encrypt ALL of the tapes policy.

.../Ed

Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE
ewi...@ewilts.org
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

2009-01-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
You might want to degauss even before sending out to such a company.

At least one poster on this list noted how he had gotten used tapes
that were supposedly wiped but on checking he found other people's data.

As for us we degauss any bad tapes after images have expired in NBU.  We
don't destroy until then on the off chance we'll need to send to someone
like Pivar to try to extract what can be extracted.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:55 AM
To: Justin Piszcz
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

I the past when I have had to get rid of a bunch of old media.  I did 
some net searching and found a company that specifically dealt with this

as well as equipment recycling.

They agreed a price for the amount of tapes that I had; collected them 
and then they were confidentially destroyed.  I believe they were put in

a furnace.  We were then issued with a certificate of destruction as
proof.

This avoided any messing around with degaussing, erasing etc.

James

Justin Piszcz wrote:
 Had a few questions.
 
 1. How do you handle it?
 2. You can send tapes off-site to Iron Mountain, degauss them before
you 
 send them off-site, that is one option.
 3. How much are the machines that securely and physically destroy
the 
 tape media?
 4. If they're physically destroyed, how do you deal with the tape
shards, 
 how do you dispose of the material?
 
 How do others on this list deal with bad tapes (with thousands of
errors 
 etc) how do you properly dispose of them?
 
 Justin.
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[Veritas-bu] nbu 6.5.1 lifecycle policy issue

2009-01-07 Thread David McMullin


Regarding the error you are getting - you might want to open a trouble ticket 
with Symantec.



For the error:

Caught CORBA SystemException from SSmgrOperations: system exception, ID 
'IDL:omg.org/CORBA/NO_PERMISSION:1.0'

OMG minor code (0), described as '*unknown description*', completed = NO



1.  There are several binary updates available ( I have rev 6 of nbpem )

2.  Check your daemons (on unix) nbstserv has a tendency to core dump/stop and 
cause these errors.

3.  Be aware you can overload the database!



I had set up a script that would deactivate all my SLP:

for i in `/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/nbstl -L | grep -i name | cut -c38-`

 do

   echo Now deactivating $i

   /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/nbstlutil inactive -lifecycle $i

 done



and I found that you can overload the database with too many changes, and cause 
this type issue as well.



Hope one of these helps you!



BTW - symantec has recommended to me that I should go to 6.5.3!


I put the nbpem rev 6 (ETRACK 1448343)on our ftp site for you. 
The significant changes in here for your environment are timer conflict 
corrections that can impact correct rescheduling of due dates and recognition 
of schedule changes.  We still urge you to upgrade to 6.5.3 as soon as 
possible, for several other SLP issues are resolved in that release. 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

2009-01-07 Thread judy_hinchcliffe
I use a company to do it.
Was Media Recovery - Now known as dataSPAN.

1) They will degauss onsite before the tapes leave your building
2) They may buy the tapes from you after that (they clean and sell them
as used - because they are degaussed before they leave your site they
are good to go)
3) They will also physically destroy them and take care of the disposal
of the leftovers in proper environmentally fashion.
4) You can get a certificate that says you had so many tapes or cd's
destroyed for audit compliance.

I have used them for years.




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From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Justin
Piszcz
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:43 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

Had a few questions.

1. How do you handle it?
2. You can send tapes off-site to Iron Mountain, degauss them before you

send them off-site, that is one option.
3. How much are the machines that securely and physically destroy the 
tape media?
4. If they're physically destroyed, how do you deal with the tape
shards, 
how do you dispose of the material?

How do others on this list deal with bad tapes (with thousands of errors

etc) how do you properly dispose of them?

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

2009-01-07 Thread Stump, Bob A
The government requires that tapes be smelt

but I don't know what they are supposed to smell like :-)




Bob Stump
Fidelity National Information Services


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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:50 AM
To: jpis...@lucidpixels.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

I use a company to do it.
Was Media Recovery - Now known as dataSPAN.

1) They will degauss onsite before the tapes leave your building
2) They may buy the tapes from you after that (they clean and sell them
as used - because they are degaussed before they leave your site they
are good to go)
3) They will also physically destroy them and take care of the disposal
of the leftovers in proper environmentally fashion.
4) You can get a certificate that says you had so many tapes or cd's
destroyed for audit compliance.

I have used them for years.




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From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Justin
Piszcz
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:43 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

Had a few questions.

1. How do you handle it?
2. You can send tapes off-site to Iron Mountain, degauss them before you

send them off-site, that is one option.
3. How much are the machines that securely and physically destroy the 
tape media?
4. If they're physically destroyed, how do you deal with the tape
shards, 
how do you dispose of the material?

How do others on this list deal with bad tapes (with thousands of errors

etc) how do you properly dispose of them?

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

2009-01-07 Thread judy_hinchcliffe
I wondered what they did with the leftovers.  I just never got into the
details.  Was told they were deposed of in the proper way.  I have seen
the claw thing that breaks/shreds/crushes the tapes into small bits.


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Bob A
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:49 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

The government requires that tapes be smelt

but I don't know what they are supposed to smell like :-)




Bob Stump
Fidelity National Information Services


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judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:50 AM
To: jpis...@lucidpixels.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

I use a company to do it.
Was Media Recovery - Now known as dataSPAN.

1) They will degauss onsite before the tapes leave your building
2) They may buy the tapes from you after that (they clean and sell them
as used - because they are degaussed before they leave your site they
are good to go)
3) They will also physically destroy them and take care of the disposal
of the leftovers in proper environmentally fashion.
4) You can get a certificate that says you had so many tapes or cd's
destroyed for audit compliance.

I have used them for years.




-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Justin
Piszcz
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:43 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

Had a few questions.

1. How do you handle it?
2. You can send tapes off-site to Iron Mountain, degauss them before you

send them off-site, that is one option.
3. How much are the machines that securely and physically destroy the 
tape media?
4. If they're physically destroyed, how do you deal with the tape
shards, 
how do you dispose of the material?

How do others on this list deal with bad tapes (with thousands of errors

etc) how do you properly dispose of them?

Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.

2009-01-07 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Stump, Bob A bob.a.st...@fnis.com wrote:

 The government requires that tapes be smelt


Sounds fishy to me :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smelt


.../Ed

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[Veritas-bu] nbu 6.5.1 lifecycle policy issue

2009-01-07 Thread smehta


David McMullin wrote:
 Regarding the error you are getting – you might want to open a trouble ticket 
 with Symantec. 
 
 For the error: 
 “Caught CORBA SystemException from SSmgrOperations: system exception, ID 
 'IDL:omg.org/CORBA/NO_PERMISSION:1.0' 
 OMG minor code (0), described as '*unknown description*', completed = NO” 
 
 ![if !supportLists]1. ![endif]There are several binary updates available 
 ( I have rev 6 of nbpem ) 
 ![if !supportLists]2. ![endif]Check your daemons (on unix) nbstserv has a 
 tendency to core dump/stop and cause these errors. 
 ![if !supportLists]3. ![endif]Be aware you can overload the database! 
 
 I had set up a script that would deactivate all my SLP: 
 for i in `/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/nbstl -L | grep -i name | cut 
 -c38-` 
 do 
 echo Now deactivating $i 
 /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/nbstlutil inactive -lifecycle $i 
 done 
 
 and I found that you can overload the database with too many changes, and 
 cause this type issue as well. 
 
 Hope one of these helps you! 
 
 BTW – symantec has recommended to me that I should go to 6.5.3! 
 
 “I put the nbpem rev 6 (ETRACK 1448343)on our ftp site for you. “ 
 “The significant changes in here for your environment are timer conflict 
 corrections that can impact correct rescheduling of due dates and recognition 
 of schedule changes. We still urge you to upgrade to 6.5.3 as soon as 
 possible, for several other SLP issues are resolved in that release. “


Thanks for the update. I did open a call with Symantec and they came back with 
the same solution. Upgrade to 6.5.3.  However, we just completed the upgrade to 
6.5.1. from 5.1 and have all the clients at 6.5.1. Upgrade was painful and so 
don't want to change to 6.5.3..

Might end up sticking with old vault.

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[Veritas-bu] Duplication job

2009-01-07 Thread Asiye Yigit
 

Hello,

We have duplicated some tapes using catalog backup. After duplication,
when we search the images from the original copy,

It says  skipping media id xx it has already two copies.

What is the reason? Duplication process can expire the images on the
primary copy?

Regards,

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] nbu 6.5.1 lifecycle policy issue

2009-01-07 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:09 AM, smehta
netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.comwrote:

 Thanks for the update. I did open a call with Symantec and they came back
 with the same solution. Upgrade to 6.5.3.  However, we just completed the
 upgrade to 6.5.1. from 5.1 and have all the clients at 6.5.1. Upgrade was
 painful and so don't want to change to 6.5.3..


Not and day difference between the upgrade from 5.1 to 6.x and 6.5.1 to
6.5.3.  You can leave your clients at 6.5.1 and upgrade the master to 6.5.3
and this will help with your master server issues with minimum pain.  The
vast majority of my clients are still 6.5.1.  Some are even 6.0.

To upgrade to 6.5.3,. you only need to do your master and your NOM server.
Media servers can be done, but don't need to be.  Clients only need to be
done if you have a specific requirement for an individual client (e.g.
Exchange Granular Restore).If you chose to upgrade a client, however,
its media server also needs to be upgraded.

.../Ed

Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE
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Re: [Veritas-bu] nbu 6.5.1 lifecycle policy issue

2009-01-07 Thread Jeff Lightner
We're running 6.5.1 and not having this issue.

Also FYI - Upgrade from 6.5.1 to 6.5.3 would not be as painful as the
one you just went through.   From 5.1 to 6.0 there was a major change in
the way things were done.   We upgraded from 6.0 to 6.5 with no real
issues.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:09 PM
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] nbu 6.5.1 lifecycle policy issue



David McMullin wrote:
 Regarding the error you are getting - you might want to open a trouble
ticket with Symantec. 
 
 For the error: 
 Caught CORBA SystemException from SSmgrOperations: system exception,
ID 'IDL:omg.org/CORBA/NO_PERMISSION:1.0' 
 OMG minor code (0), described as '*unknown description*', completed =
NO 
 
 ![if !supportLists]1. ![endif]There are several binary updates
available ( I have rev 6 of nbpem ) 
 ![if !supportLists]2. ![endif]Check your daemons (on unix)
nbstserv has a tendency to core dump/stop and cause these errors. 
 ![if !supportLists]3. ![endif]Be aware you can overload the
database! 
 
 I had set up a script that would deactivate all my SLP: 
 for i in `/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/nbstl -L | grep -i name |
cut -c38-` 
 do 
 echo Now deactivating $i 
 /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/nbstlutil inactive -lifecycle $i 
 done 
 
 and I found that you can overload the database with too many changes,
and cause this type issue as well. 
 
 Hope one of these helps you! 
 
 BTW - symantec has recommended to me that I should go to 6.5.3! 
 
 I put the nbpem rev 6 (ETRACK 1448343)on our ftp site for you.  
 The significant changes in here for your environment are timer
conflict corrections that can impact correct rescheduling of due dates
and recognition of schedule changes. We still urge you to upgrade to
6.5.3 as soon as possible, for several other SLP issues are resolved in
that release. 


Thanks for the update. I did open a call with Symantec and they came
back with the same solution. Upgrade to 6.5.3.  However, we just
completed the upgrade to 6.5.1. from 5.1 and have all the clients at
6.5.1. Upgrade was painful and so don't want to change to 6.5.3..

Might end up sticking with old vault.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Duplication job

2009-01-07 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 07:16:26PM +0200, Asiye Yigit wrote:
 We have duplicated some tapes using catalog backup. After duplication,
 when we search the images from the original copy,
 
 It says  skipping media id xx it has already two copies.

What do you mean by search the images?  What commands are you running
that generate that output?

-- 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 on Windows and VMWARE Backups

2009-01-07 Thread Mike Kiles
Thanks.

When I do my restore test, I will let you know. 
For now it is going to be 3 - FullVM and File for Incrementals

Cheers

MK


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 From: bob944 bob...@attglobal.net
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 on Windows and VMWARE Backups
 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Cc: mikeki...@yahoo.com
 Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 8:56 AM
  I am configuring VCB backups for NBU 6.5.3, for 
  FlashBackup-Windows policy, there are 4 options for
 backup 
  types under Snapshot Client Options. These are 
  
  0 - File 
  1 - FullVM
  2 - Mapped FullVM
  3 - FullVM and File for Incrementals
  
  From reading the docs, Option 3 - FullVM and
 File for 
  Incrementals, looks like best of both world, 
  it will let me restore single files and restore full
 guest 
  VM. It also allows incremental level backups.
  Is there any disadvantage when using it compraed to
 other types. 
  I am trying to avoid running 2 or more backups to
 completely 
  protect a VM.
 
 3 is the correct choice; it does exactly what
 the manual says it does:
 a snapshot backup of the vmdk for a full (and from which
 you can restore
 individual files or the whole VM), and a
 normal, file-based backup for
 incrementals.  Set up the schedules in the same policy,
 throw windows
 and clients at it and it will work like you expect
 NetBackup to work.
 It worked as advertised in my test environment, though my
 restore
 testing was minimal.
 
 An aside:  Restoring files to VMs is, to somebody not used
 to VMware,
 kludgy, so do read up on how to restore and test that part
 before you
 need it.
 
 
 
 
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