[Veritas-bu] Unable to find image in Restore/Catalog

[NBU]

All the suggested checks was already done. In case if i am making a mistake in 
putting the right details in Restore window how about Catalog.
I am not getting the image there also.

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[Veritas-bu] SuSE 10sp2

[nitabillls]

>From this I gather that no one on this forum has been able to make SuSE 10 sp2 
>clients work with NetBackup.  I will have to pursue other options...

Thank you all for the discussion.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] DOWN drives during NDMP backups.

[Conner, Neil]

It could be that the connections to the devices got broken somehow.  On
NetApp filers, you can offline the related storage adapter and online it
again and that refreshes the connection.

Neil


On 3/23/09 9:39 AM, "A Darren Dunham"  wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:18:39AM +0100, Stefaan Margot wrote:
>> Darren,
>> 
>> We had the same issue a couple of weeks ago...
>> It was caused by an orphaned ndmp process on our filer.
>> Restarting the ndmp daemon solved the problem.
> 
> Don't see any stuck sessions.  I've cycled the main ndmp item anyway.
> 
> Thanks,

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[Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5.1 - all services were up - No backups fired this W/E :(

[Licata, Lawrence]

Anyone ever run by this one before?

NB - 6.5.1 Master running one Windows 2003 
Library - HP ESL 1918 w/ 8 LTO2 drives
12 TB Disk store 

All services were up
The robot was fine
The drives were online. 

No backups queued or started .. At all... Not a one. 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] DOWN drives during NDMP backups.

[A Darren Dunham]

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:18:39AM +0100, Stefaan Margot wrote:
> Darren,
> 
> We had the same issue a couple of weeks ago...
> It was caused by an orphaned ndmp process on our filer.
> Restarting the ndmp daemon solved the problem.

Don't see any stuck sessions.  I've cycled the main ndmp item anyway.  

Thanks,
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some

[Rusty . Major]

I understood your original question, I was just strongly suggesting, since 
you mentioned it, that you need to wrangle in those admins and bring them 
over to your side.
If they own the SQL databases, then why are they not involved with the 
process of recovering a database?
Sounds like things have worked before and you have it down, but with them 
out of the loop, the potential for problems is huge.

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Rusty
I dont think the integrity of the SQL Backups are in question. We do ALOT 
of restores, not just real life but in practice as well.
 
But the SQL Admin's have no experience of NetBackup, but they are aware of 
how the backups work and what is involved.
 
The process is also entirely documented for backups and restore purposes. 
 
All I wanted was some advice or options on improving the performance which 
may be outside the scope of the SQLAdmin book and real world experiences 
of anyone doing an online backup :)
 
But as it turns out, I rescheduled some jobs, and they actually completed 
alot quicker. So although I will try this in a test environment, it is 
something I am going to look into.
 
Apprecaite the options
Simon

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Simon, the first thing you should do is get your SQL group on board with 
backups. You're not a SQL guy, and they aren't a backup person, but 
together you both need to work together to understand the process. 
Otherwise, the validity of the backups are in question. 

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Bob
Hang on your causing some confusion now...

Just what do you mean by this:

>> You do realize, right, that the full/incr schedule doesn't actually
back anything up--it just tells the client to run the client >> script
specified in the selection list?

I do full SQL Online backups, and we have restored from these too. And
yes, the command is "pushed" to the client, as I can see that from the
event logs. The "Master" is simply the running machine, and as stated,
its like the "Main Client" Job kicks in and then the smaller "Scheduled
jobs" for each DB thereafter :-)

If its a case of tweaking the .bch file, then thats ok. Sadly, the SQL
people DONT know NetBackup and wont touch it, hence why I have been
configuring SQL all the time. Its not been a problem, but recently one
client has got bigger and bigger, and I was only seeking a possible way
forward to improving this.

The SQL Admin answer. backup to disk offline. But thats not possible
when they have no more storage available.

Will try to go back to the book .. cheers anyhow..

-Original Message-
From: bob944 [mailto:bob...@attglobal.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 4:11 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Cc: WEAVER, Simon (external)
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some

> Situation: Win2k3 SP2 Master and Mutliple SAN Media Servers.
> I have many VM Machines that are doing backups via the lan at this 
> stage. VMCB will be looked into later this year.
> 
> Problem I am seeing: In particular, 2 clients have 500 SQL DB's on 
> them and the behaviour of NetBackup seems to be:
> 
> 1) A Schedule kicks off for SQL
> 2) Another job kicks in for the Default Application Backup and it 
> backs up 

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some

[WEAVER, Simon (external)]

Rusty
I dont think the integrity of the SQL Backups are in question. We do ALOT of 
restores, not just real life but in practice as well.
 
But the SQL Admin's have no experience of NetBackup, but they are aware of how 
the backups work and what is involved.
 
The process is also entirely documented for backups and restore purposes. 
 
All I wanted was some advice or options on improving the performance which may 
be outside the scope of the SQLAdmin book and real world experiences of anyone 
doing an online backup :)
 
But as it turns out, I rescheduled some jobs, and they actually completed alot 
quicker. So although I will try this in a test environment, it is something I 
am going to look into.
 
Apprecaite the options
Simon



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veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some



Simon, the first thing you should do is get your SQL group on board with 
backups. You're not a SQL guy, and they aren't a backup person, but together 
you both need to work together to understand the process. Otherwise, the 
validity of the backups are in question. 

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Services ▪ 757 N. Eldridge Suite 200, Houston TX 77079 ▪ 281-584-4693 
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Bob
Hang on your causing some confusion now...

Just what do you mean by this:

>> You do realize, right, that the full/incr schedule doesn't actually
back anything up--it just tells the client to run the client >> script
specified in the selection list?

I do full SQL Online backups, and we have restored from these too. And
yes, the command is "pushed" to the client, as I can see that from the
event logs. The "Master" is simply the running machine, and as stated,
its like the "Main Client" Job kicks in and then the smaller "Scheduled
jobs" for each DB thereafter :-)

If its a case of tweaking the .bch file, then thats ok. Sadly, the SQL
people DONT know NetBackup and wont touch it, hence why I have been
configuring SQL all the time. Its not been a problem, but recently one
client has got bigger and bigger, and I was only seeking a possible way
forward to improving this.

The SQL Admin answer. backup to disk offline. But thats not possible
when they have no more storage available.

Will try to go back to the book .. cheers anyhow..

-Original Message-
From: bob944 [mailto:bob...@attglobal.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 4:11 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Cc: WEAVER, Simon (external)
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some

> Situation: Win2k3 SP2 Master and Mutliple SAN Media Servers.
> I have many VM Machines that are doing backups via the lan at this 
> stage. VMCB will be looked into later this year.
> 
> Problem I am seeing: In particular, 2 clients have 500 SQL DB's on 
> them and the behaviour of NetBackup seems to be:
> 
> 1) A Schedule kicks off for SQL
> 2) Another job kicks in for the Default Application Backup and it 
> backs up each single DB

You do realize, right, that the full/incr schedule doesn't actually back
anything up--it just tells the client to run the client script specified
in the selection list?

And that the file should be SQL Server backup commands that are executed
on the client (and can be initiated just as easily from the client by
any other means that suit your needs)?

And that the client initiates a user backup request to the master which
validates the client against allowed/applicable user backup
schedules--_that_ is what initiates the D_A_B job(s)?

So the fix you seek is at the client end.  Break out a Microsoft SQL
Server book and an editor, the Veritas NetBackup for Microsoft SQL
Server Administraotr's Guide (or use the too-simple-to-screw-up
NetBackup client GUI) and change or add a script that does what you
want:  stripes, multi-streaming, blocksize, shared buffers, ...  

Assuming you set the client and policy job limits per the
Administrator's Guide, of course.

> Or is this behaviour I am seeing normal.

It's normal if the script uses the default installation values.  A
backup or SQLServer admin who knows his stuff can make 

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008 SP1 x86

[WEAVER, Simon (external)]

Exactly. Thought I would post for the originator :)



From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] 
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 3:40 PM
To: WEAVER, Simon (external)
Cc: Sekhon Simrat S.; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008 SP1 x86


On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:30 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external)
 wrote:


Found this...
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/301777.htm


Which clearly states that a 6.5.3 master is NOT supported on Windows
2008.

"NetBackup 6.5.x Master Server support is not currently planned for
WS2008.  The next major version release of NetBackup is currently
planned to support 2008 on Master Servers."



 
 
Simon



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Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 11:32 AM
To: Sekhon Simrat S.
Cc: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008
SP1 x86


On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Sekhon Simrat S.
 wrote:



Has anyone run into any issues with NB 6.5.3
Master/Media server on Windows 2008 SP1x86 ? Any unpleasant surprises? I
would appreciate if you could share your experience.


I'd have to check the compatibility list to be sure but I don't
believe that a master server is supported on Windows 2008 yet.
 



.../Ed 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008 SP1 x86

[WEAVER, Simon (external)]

Hi
As the technote states :
 
>> NetBackup 6.5.x Master Server support is not currently planned for
WS2008.  The next major version release of NetBackup is currently
planned to support 2008 on Master Servers
 
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/301777.htm

Regards, Si



From: Sekhon Simrat S. [mailto:sssek...@vasc.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 3:14 PM
To: WEAVER, Simon (external)
Cc: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; Ed Wilts
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008 SP1 x86



I did some testing with Master/Media 6.5.3 on Windows 2008 x86 and
things seem to be running fairly well except when I try to backup
windows 2008 master server itself. I am seeing performance hit when I
backup win 2008 master. I heard that this can be resolved by using
certain exclusions for windows 2008 clients. I was able to find
something for Backup Exec 12 but haven't found anything for NB 6.5.3.  I
have tested exchange 2007 mailbox backups and they seem to be running
fine. Hot catalog backups seem to be running fine. I will test Exchange
2007 information store and SQL 2005 database backup later today.

 

From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net] 
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:30 AM
To: Ed Wilts; Sekhon Simrat S.
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008 SP1 x86

 

Found this...

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/301777.htm

 

Simon

 



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Cc: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008 SP1 x86

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Sekhon Simrat S. 
wrote:

Has anyone run into any issues with NB 6.5.3 Master/Media server on
Windows 2008 SP1x86 ? Any unpleasant surprises? I would appreciate if
you could share your experience.


I'd have to check the compatibility list to be sure but I don't believe
that a master server is supported on Windows 2008 yet.
 

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008 SP1 x86

[Ed Wilts]

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:30 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) <
simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net> wrote:

>  Found this...
> http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/301777.htm
>

Which clearly states that a 6.5.3 master is NOT supported on Windows 2008.

"NetBackup 6.5.x Master Server support is not currently planned for WS2008.
 The next m*ajor *version release of NetBackup is currently planned to
support 2008 on Master Servers."


>
> Simon
>
>  --
> *From:* veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:
> veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *Ed Wilts
> *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2009 11:32 AM
> *To:* Sekhon Simrat S.
> *Cc:* Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008 SP1 x86
>
>  On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Sekhon Simrat S. wrote:
>
>>  Has anyone run into any issues with NB 6.5.3 Master/Media server on
>> Windows 2008 SP1x86 ? Any unpleasant surprises? I would appreciate if you
>> could share your experience.
>>
>
> I'd have to check the compatibility list to be sure but I don't believe
> that a master server is supported on Windows 2008 yet.
>
>
> .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some

[Rusty . Major]

Simon, the first thing you should do is get your SQL group on board with 
backups. You're not a SQL guy, and they aren't a backup person, but 
together you both need to work together to understand the process. 
Otherwise, the validity of the backups are in question.

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Availability Services ▪ 757 N. Eldridge Suite 200, Houston TX 77079 ▪ 
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Bob
Hang on your causing some confusion now...

Just what do you mean by this:

>> You do realize, right, that the full/incr schedule doesn't actually
back anything up--it just tells the client to run the client >> script
specified in the selection list?

I do full SQL Online backups, and we have restored from these too. And
yes, the command is "pushed" to the client, as I can see that from the
event logs. The "Master" is simply the running machine, and as stated,
its like the "Main Client" Job kicks in and then the smaller "Scheduled
jobs" for each DB thereafter :-)

If its a case of tweaking the .bch file, then thats ok. Sadly, the SQL
people DONT know NetBackup and wont touch it, hence why I have been
configuring SQL all the time. Its not been a problem, but recently one
client has got bigger and bigger, and I was only seeking a possible way
forward to improving this.

The SQL Admin answer. backup to disk offline. But thats not possible
when they have no more storage available.

Will try to go back to the book .. cheers anyhow..

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Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 4:11 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Cc: WEAVER, Simon (external)
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some

> Situation: Win2k3 SP2 Master and Mutliple SAN Media Servers.
> I have many VM Machines that are doing backups via the lan at this 
> stage. VMCB will be looked into later this year.
> 
> Problem I am seeing: In particular, 2 clients have 500 SQL DB's on 
> them and the behaviour of NetBackup seems to be:
> 
> 1) A Schedule kicks off for SQL
> 2) Another job kicks in for the Default Application Backup and it 
> backs up each single DB

You do realize, right, that the full/incr schedule doesn't actually back
anything up--it just tells the client to run the client script specified
in the selection list?

And that the file should be SQL Server backup commands that are executed
on the client (and can be initiated just as easily from the client by
any other means that suit your needs)?

And that the client initiates a user backup request to the master which
validates the client against allowed/applicable user backup
schedules--_that_ is what initiates the D_A_B job(s)?

So the fix you seek is at the client end.  Break out a Microsoft SQL
Server book and an editor, the Veritas NetBackup for Microsoft SQL
Server Administraotr's Guide (or use the too-simple-to-screw-up
NetBackup client GUI) and change or add a script that does what you
want:  stripes, multi-streaming, blocksize, shared buffers, ... 

Assuming you set the client and policy job limits per the
Administrator's Guide, of course.

> Or is this behaviour I am seeing normal.

It's normal if the script uses the default installation values.  A
backup or SQLServer admin who knows his stuff can make SQL Server
backups rock if the box is capable of it.  As I see others have said,
open the admin guide.



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Re: [Veritas-bu] install NOM

[Ed Wilts]

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 8:56 PM, mohamed fathy wrote:

> i have installed a NOM on windows xp and when i logged through the web i
> found that NOM did not reterive any data from the master server ,i dont know
> why as i have aclient on this windows xp and when i tried to add master
> server from the NOM page ,there is no result and i still can not reterive
> data from master server


According to the NOM Operations Guide, which includes the installation
instructions, XP is not a supported platform for the NOM server.  XP is not
a server operating system - it's a desktop operating system.

See page 26 of the Guide at
ftp://exftpp.symantec.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server/290227.pdf

Once you have a valid NOM server installed, you can use a supported browser
on XP to access the NOM server.

.../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Unable to find image in Restore/Catalog

[Rusty . Major]

In the Restore screen, are you sure you have the proper image type 
selected, i.e. Windows vs. Standard? Do you have the exact same name as it 
is listed in the policy backing up the client?
Sounds like it's something simple, just double check all the parameters 
and make sure they are correct.


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Dear Forum,

I am facing a problem for 1 particular policy of Windows.

In activity monitor it shows backup completed with KB and no of files.

But when i am checking the image in Restore or Catalog i am not getting 
it.

Even in Client backup it is not showing.

Can anyone help me out.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Unable to find image in Restore/Catalog

[Ed Wilts]

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 6:43 AM, NBU wrote:

> I am facing a problem for 1 particular policy of Windows.
>
> In activity monitor it shows backup completed with KB and no of files.
>
> But when i am checking the image in Restore or Catalog i am not getting it.
>
> Even in Client backup it is not showing.
>
> Can anyone help me out.


Typical reasons:

The policy type (e.g. FlashBackups vs Windows-NT vs Standard) needs to
match.

Client host names are case sensitive.  If you back it up with a mixed case
name, the restore must be done the same way.

Client file names are case sensitive.

.../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008 SP1 x86

[Sekhon Simrat S .]

I did some testing with Master/Media 6.5.3 on Windows 2008 x86 and things seem 
to be running fairly well except when I try to backup windows 2008 master 
server itself. I am seeing performance hit when I backup win 2008 master. I 
heard that this can be resolved by using certain exclusions for windows 2008 
clients. I was able to find something for Backup Exec 12 but haven’t found 
anything for NB 6.5.3.  I have tested exchange 2007 mailbox backups and they 
seem to be running fine. Hot catalog backups seem to be running fine. I will 
test Exchange 2007 information store and SQL 2005 database backup later today.

From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net]
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:30 AM
To: Ed Wilts; Sekhon Simrat S.
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008 SP1 x86

Found this...
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/301777.htm

Simon


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Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 11:32 AM
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Cc: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008 SP1 x86
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Sekhon Simrat S. 
mailto:sssek...@vasc.com>> wrote:
Has anyone run into any issues with NB 6.5.3 Master/Media server on Windows 
2008 SP1x86 ? Any unpleasant surprises? I would appreciate if you could share 
your experience.

I'd have to check the compatibility list to be sure but I don't believe that a 
master server is supported on Windows 2008 yet.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008 SP1 x86

[judy_hinchcliffe]

Not as a master/media - but have had issues with it just as a client.

 

Any new install of a 2008 box I get 49 errors ( Symantec does not know
what causes it).

I can put them back to 6.5.2a and they work fine, but at 6.5.3(1) they
fail with 49's.

 

The thing is that working with them to troubleshoot, I would upgrade
them again and they would work.

 

I cannot figure out why.

 

I just installed 5 new 2008 clients.  All failed first time.

Next night 3 worked but 2 of them are still failing with 49's.

 

 

 

 

 



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Simrat S.
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To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008 SP1 x86

 

Has anyone run into any issues with NB 6.5.3 Master/Media server on
Windows 2008 SP1x86 ? Any unpleasant surprises? I would appreciate if
you could share your experience.

 

Thanks

Simrat

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Not all drives appear to be used

[judy_hinchcliffe]

When they say queued what does the 'State Details' column say as to why?

(cannot find your original email to see what version you are on)

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Not all drives appear to be used


I verified that the Max concurrent drives is correct.  I appreciate the
input.  This seems to be a new symptom, and I have not made changes to
the storage unit settings.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] install NOM

[judy_hinchcliffe]

Did you add the NOM server name to the properties of the master server
in the "other servers" list?

 



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fathy
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] install NOM

 

Dear All
i have installed a NOM on windows xp and when i logged through the web i
found that NOM did not reterive any data from the master server ,i dont
know why as i have aclient on this windows xp and when i tried to add
master server from the NOM page ,there is no result and i still can not
reterive data from master server
  regards

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008 SP1 x86

[WEAVER, Simon (external)]

Found this...
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/301777.htm
 
Simon



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008 SP1 x86


On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Sekhon Simrat S. 
wrote:



Has anyone run into any issues with NB 6.5.3 Master/Media server
on Windows 2008 SP1x86 ? Any unpleasant surprises? I would appreciate if
you could share your experience.


I'd have to check the compatibility list to be sure but I don't believe
that a master server is supported on Windows 2008 yet.
 

   .../Ed


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[Veritas-bu] Unable to find image in Restore/Catalog

[NBU]

Dear Forum,

I am facing a problem for 1 particular policy of Windows.

In activity monitor it shows backup completed with KB and no of files.

But when i am checking the image in Restore or Catalog i am not getting it.

Even in Client backup it is not showing.

Can anyone help me out.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008 SP1 x86

[Ed Wilts]

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Sekhon Simrat S.  wrote:

>  Has anyone run into any issues with NB 6.5.3 Master/Media server on
> Windows 2008 SP1x86 ? Any unpleasant surprises? I would appreciate if you
> could share your experience.
>

I'd have to check the compatibility list to be sure but I don't believe that
a master server is supported on Windows 2008 yet.


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[Veritas-bu] Not all drives appear to be used

[mcw012765]

I verified that the Max concurrent drives is correct.  I appreciate the input.  
This seems to be a new symptom, and I have not made changes to the storage unit 
settings.

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[Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.3 Master Media on Windows 2008 SP1 x86

[Sekhon Simrat S .]

Has anyone run into any issues with NB 6.5.3 Master/Media server on Windows 
2008 SP1x86 ? Any unpleasant surprises? I would appreciate if you could share 
your experience.

Thanks
Simrat


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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some Advice and Assistance please?

[WEAVER, Simon (external)]

Cheers David
Had a feeling this was the "default" behaviour, as I did set them up
using the Guide (SQL Admins dont care for NetBackup ya see).

Will have another look, but just wondered if there was any optional tips
or help outside the scope of the manual.

I did reschedule the backups to take part during a quieter moment and
that has saved some time, which is good.

But will re-look again in the manual and do some testing.

Simon 

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Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 6:49 PM
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Subject: NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some Advice and Assistance
please?

The behavior you describe is what you will see with the SQL and oracle
agents - A parent jobs starts and spawns child jobs. The number of these
child jobs and how many run at once - you can run them serially or
parallel - is controlled by variables in the script NetBackup calls.
I agree with Rusty - check the manual. We have the DBA administer these
scripts. All we do is call them.

One thing we HAVE found in 6.5.X is there is a bug in the windows client
that allows the parent to lock up sometimes.
We see this when running incremental backups - if you add a new database
it will lock up the parent job since there is no full backup to compare
to ...

BUG REPORT: MS SQL Backup Parent job has an Active Status but hangs
until it times out or is canceled. The dbbackex.exe process on the MS
SQL Client does not exit. 
Document ID: 315659
http://support.veritas.com/docs/315659


Summary of previous emails:

From: rusty.ma...@sungard.com
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some
Advice and Assistance please ?
To: "WEAVER, Simon \(external\)" 

I think you'll find the answer to your question in the SQL admin guide.

>From my recollection, you can tune how many streams you want to run at
a time, and which DB's will be backed up by the job in your script file.

I think someone else may have a more specific answer, but I think you'll
find the guide has your answer.

"WEAVER, Simon \(external\)"  
Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
03/20/2009 05:13 AM

To
Subject[Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some Advice and
Assistance please ?

Good Morning 
I wonder if I can get some advice from some NBU SQL Experts here. 
Situation: Win2k3 SP2 Master and Mutliple SAN Media Servers. 
I have many VM Machines that are doing backups via the lan at this
stage. 
VMCB will be looked into later this year. 
Problem I am seeing: In particular, 2 clients have 500 SQL DB's on them
and the behaviour of NetBackup seems to be: 
1) A Schedule kicks off for SQL 
2) Another job kicks in for the Default Application Backup and it backs
up each single DB 
Is there a way I can group ALL the DB's or maybe 5, 10 or so in one hit?

Or is this behaviour I am seeing normal. It takes approx 5 hours for the
backups of SQL to complete, and throughput is around 22 - 28mb/second. 
Some of the DB's are very small (several hundred MB and a couple are of
several hundreg GB - Not good for LAN based I know, hence why I am
looking 
into a Consolidated Backup solution later).
Any advice is greatly appreciated. 
Regards 
Simon 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some Advice andAssistance please ?

[WEAVER, Simon (external)]

Rusty
Yeah I see that, but was seeking advice outside of this in case someone on here 
had a much better way of getting the batch file to help improve the throughput 
in terms of the number of jobs.
 
Back to the drawing board then.



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some Advice 
andAssistance please ?



I think you'll find the answer to your question in the SQL admin guide. 

From my recollection, you can tune how many streams you want to run at a time, 
and which DB's will be backed up by the job in your script file. 

I think someone else may have a more specific answer, but I think you'll find 
the guide has your answer. 

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03/20/2009 05:13 AM 

To
 
cc
Subject
[Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some Advice and
Assistance please ?






Good Morning 
I wonder if I can get some advice from some NBU SQL Experts here. 

Situation: Win2k3 SP2 Master and Mutliple SAN Media Servers. 
I have many VM Machines that are doing backups via the lan at this stage. VMCB 
will be looked into later this year. 

Problem I am seeing: In particular, 2 clients have 500 SQL DB's on them and the 
behaviour of NetBackup seems to be: 

1) A Schedule kicks off for SQL 
2) Another job kicks in for the Default Application Backup and it backs up each 
single DB 

Is there a way I can group ALL the DB's or maybe 5, 10 or so in one hit? Or is 
this behaviour I am seeing normal. It takes approx 5 hours for the backups of 
SQL to complete, and throughput is around 22 - 28mb/second. Some of the DB's 
are very small (several hundred MB and a couple are of several hundreg GB - Not 
good for LAN based I know, hence why I am looking into a Consolidated Backup 
solution later). 

Any advice is greatly appreciated. 

Regards 

Simon 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some Advice and Assistance please ?

[WEAVER, Simon (external)]

Thanks Bill. May just take you up on that to be sure what I am doing is correct.
 
Warm Regards
Simon



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To: rusty.ma...@sungard.com
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some Advice and 
Assistance please ?


Simon,
 
You can build a batch file that will group multiple databases into one 
collection jobs.
Feel free to contact me off-list if you require detailed information.
 
Thanks, Bill


On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:01 AM,  wrote:



I think you'll find the answer to your question in the SQL admin guide. 

From my recollection, you can tune how many streams you want to run at 
a time, and which DB's will be backed up by the job in your script file. 

I think someone else may have a more specific answer, but I think 
you'll find the guide has your answer. 

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Availability Services ▪ 757 N. Eldridge Suite 200, Houston TX 77079 ▪ 
281-584-4693 
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To
 
cc
Subject
[Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some Advice and
Assistance please ?







Good Morning 
I wonder if I can get some advice from some NBU SQL Experts here. 

Situation: Win2k3 SP2 Master and Mutliple SAN Media Servers. 
I have many VM Machines that are doing backups via the lan at this 
stage. VMCB will be looked into later this year. 

Problem I am seeing: In particular, 2 clients have 500 SQL DB's on them 
and the behaviour of NetBackup seems to be: 

1) A Schedule kicks off for SQL 
2) Another job kicks in for the Default Application Backup and it backs 
up each single DB 

Is there a way I can group ALL the DB's or maybe 5, 10 or so in one 
hit? Or is this behaviour I am seeing normal. It takes approx 5 hours for the 
backups of SQL to complete, and throughput is around 22 - 28mb/second. Some of 
the DB's are very small (several hundred MB and a couple are of several hundreg 
GB - Not good for LAN based I know, hence why I am looking into a Consolidated 
Backup solution later). 

Any advice is greatly appreciated. 

Regards 

Simon 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some

[WEAVER, Simon (external)]

Bob
Hang on your causing some confusion now...

Just what do you mean by this:

>> You do realize, right, that the full/incr schedule doesn't actually
back anything up--it just tells the client to run the client >> script
specified in the selection list?

I do full SQL Online backups, and we have restored from these too. And
yes, the command is "pushed" to the client, as I can see that from the
event logs. The "Master" is simply the running machine, and as stated,
its like the "Main Client" Job kicks in and then the smaller "Scheduled
jobs" for each DB thereafter :-)

If its a case of tweaking the .bch file, then thats ok. Sadly, the SQL
people DONT know NetBackup and wont touch it, hence why I have been
configuring SQL all the time. Its not been a problem, but recently one
client has got bigger and bigger, and I was only seeking a possible way
forward to improving this.

The SQL Admin answer. backup to disk offline. But thats not possible
when they have no more storage available.

Will try to go back to the book .. cheers anyhow..

-Original Message-
From: bob944 [mailto:bob...@attglobal.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 4:11 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Cc: WEAVER, Simon (external)
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 5.1 and SQL Online Agent - Some

> Situation: Win2k3 SP2 Master and Mutliple SAN Media Servers.
> I have many VM Machines that are doing backups via the lan at this 
> stage. VMCB will be looked into later this year.
> 
> Problem I am seeing: In particular, 2 clients have 500 SQL DB's on 
> them and the behaviour of NetBackup seems to be:
> 
> 1) A Schedule kicks off for SQL
> 2) Another job kicks in for the Default Application Backup and it 
> backs up each single DB

You do realize, right, that the full/incr schedule doesn't actually back
anything up--it just tells the client to run the client script specified
in the selection list?

And that the file should be SQL Server backup commands that are executed
on the client (and can be initiated just as easily from the client by
any other means that suit your needs)?

And that the client initiates a user backup request to the master which
validates the client against allowed/applicable user backup
schedules--_that_ is what initiates the D_A_B job(s)?

So the fix you seek is at the client end.  Break out a Microsoft SQL
Server book and an editor, the Veritas NetBackup for Microsoft SQL
Server Administraotr's Guide (or use the too-simple-to-screw-up
NetBackup client GUI) and change or add a script that does what you
want:  stripes, multi-streaming, blocksize, shared buffers, ...  

Assuming you set the client and policy job limits per the
Administrator's Guide, of course.

> Or is this behaviour I am seeing normal.

It's normal if the script uses the default installation values.  A
backup or SQLServer admin who knows his stuff can make SQL Server
backups rock if the box is capable of it.  As I see others have said,
open the admin guide.



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