Re: [Veritas-bu] 2 master servers with netbackup 6.0 MP4

2010-03-24 Thread Grigore Petrisor
Hi 
to all and thanks for the answers.
 
First 
thing, we tried to partition the library and it didn’t work. I mean the second 
server was always “seeing” the robotics as controlled by the first server. 
Whatever we tried, we didn’t succeed to set it as locally controlled. Should we 
try and reinstall the second server? I think this is the best solution... As 
for 
the library partitions, we didn’t manage to assign one partition to a server 
particularly, you just create two partitions and the two servers are “seeing” 
all the drives. Is it because switch zoning or you could divide the drives 
between the two servers as long as you keep the same drive assignment as the 
partition’s?
 
With 
the SSO licensing is even worse… JBoth servers can see the robotics and the 
drives, so zoning isn’t an issue. The 
problem is that on both servers the license appears as inactive and when you 
add 
on the second servers the drives they appear as limited because there is no SSO 
installed….
 
Anyways, 
the first topology with two master servers and two partitons is the one we 
would 
like to use so we will try to reinstall the second 
server….
 
Thanks 
again




From: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
To: edy2...@yahoo.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 9:21:04 PM
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] 2 master servers with netbackup 6.0 MP4

  
You have to logical libraries…..
 
Means you have two libraries … one
master controls one and its drives and its tapes, the other master controls the
other library and its drives and its tapes.  The NB masters know nothing about
each other, and the virtual libraries know nothing about each other.
 
If you want two MEDIA servers to
share ONE library, then create one library.
Add it to your master for control,
if your master is also a media server add the drives to the server then to
NetBackup.
If you want both media servers to
share the drives, then on the SAN you Zone the drives to both media servers,
put in the SSO license.
Once zoned the second media server
should also be able to see the drives, add them to the OS, then add the second
media server to share the same drives you added with the first master/media
server.
 
I am on aix 5.3 and have a TS3310
library that I have done this with.
 
From:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
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Petrisor
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 4:35 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] 2 master servers with netbackup 6.0 MP4
 
Hi ALL
 
I have a problem to configure
two master servers with netbackup 6.0 MP4
 
We
have two AIX 5.3 master servers installed with netbackup 6.0 MP4. The library
is IBM TS3500 with 4 drives, partitioned into 2 logical libraries. The first
server, server1, works ok, but the second one doesn’t. We can install on the
second one the robot as a controlled robot by the first server (the inventory
works fine), but when we get to drives it doesn’t install anything and the
message is “no shared storage option installed”. We have the shared storage
option installed, but on both servers appears as “Feature: share storage option
(inactive)” and “valid: no”. The questions are: 1. did anybody experience
similar problem with the license or maybe it is a configuration issue? 2. is
there any other way to use the two servers independently of one another? 
 
Many
thanks!


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Resetting the archive bit on windows backups

2010-03-24 Thread Marianne Van Den Berg
Hi Mark

Extract from NBU Admin Guide I for Windows:

Wait time before clearing archive bit
The Wait time before clearing archive bit property specifies how long
the client waits before the archive bits for a differential incremental
backup are cleared. The minimum allowable value is 300 (default). The
client waits for acknowledgment from the server that the backup was
successful. If the server does not reply within this time period, the
archive bits are not cleared.
This option applies only to differential-incremental backups.
Cumulative-incremental backups do not clear the archive bit.



Regards

M.

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Donaldson, Mark
Sent: 23 March 2010 08:52 PM
To: Veritas
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Resetting the archive bit on windows backups

This occurred to me on the way to work.  Does the NB client for windows
reset all the archive bits on files after the backup's completion?
That's the only thing that makes sense as I see it.  If it reset the bit
after each file, then a last-minute failure of the backup would not let
the next incremental backup what failed the previous run.

-M


Mark Donaldson - Systems  Storage Administrator
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[Veritas-bu] Does BMR Backup support for Exchange Files?

2010-03-24 Thread Adrian Soetanto
Dear all,

I want to make sure whether BMR backup will completely backup all the folders  
files that belong to Microsoft Exchange.
Especially for this folder: C:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\MDBDATA\, because when 
I try to browse  restore the BMR backup image (from Backup, Archive, and 
Restore GUI), I didn't see the *.edb files to be restored.
Since the *.edb files are critical, I need to back them up regularly, but it 
seems that the BMR backup doesn't back them up.
Does it need the agent for Microsoft Exchange?

Thank you for helping.

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  Adrian Soetanto
  PT. Bentoel Prima - Infrastructure Staff 
  Jl. Raya Karanglo - Singosari, Malang 
  Tel. (+62-341) 298 774 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Does BMR Backup support for Exchange Files?

2010-03-24 Thread Justin Piszcz

Hi,

For any DB that has data changing under you, you will typically need an 
agent.


Justin.


On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Adrian Soetanto wrote:


Dear all,

I want to make sure whether BMR backup will completely backup all the folders  
files that belong to Microsoft Exchange.
Especially for this folder: C:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\MDBDATA\, because when I 
try to browse  restore the BMR backup image (from Backup, Archive, and Restore GUI), I 
didn't see the *.edb files to be restored.
Since the *.edb files are critical, I need to back them up regularly, but it 
seems that the BMR backup doesn't back them up.
Does it need the agent for Microsoft Exchange?

Thank you for helping.

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  Adrian Soetanto
  PT. Bentoel Prima - Infrastructure Staff 
  Jl. Raya Karanglo - Singosari, Malang 
  Tel. (+62-341) 298 774 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] 32 KB for BCV Based Tape backup

2010-03-24 Thread Marianne Van Den Berg
Please share the File List in your policy as well as where the BCV's are
actually mounted.

If mount points look something like this:

/bcv/bcv1
/bcv/bcv2
...

And your policy specifies /bcv, you need to select 'Cross mount points'
in policy attributes. Not selecting this option will backup the mount
points and not its contents.

Regards

M.


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Subject: [Veritas-bu] 32 KB for BCV Based Tape backup


Hi Forum,

My setup has Solaris 10 MASTER/Media on 6.5.5.

When an auto schedule of BC Tape backup runs few/all streams of the
backup complete by giving 32 KB. BCV devices are made visible to Media
server and backup is taken.

If we refire the same then it goes well. any clue as to why this
happens.

I have around 26 BC's but for majority this is the problem.

Thanks In Advance.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Does BMR Backup support for Exchange Files?

2010-03-24 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Hi adrian
I use BMR to protect the System itself (ie: The Exchange Cluster).

However, I have a seperate policy that uses the Exchange Directive backups, in 
the form of making use of the NetBackup Exchange Agent, which is a seperate 
product.

Therefore, BMR will not protect the Exchange Database files, as they are in use.

But combining an Exchange Aware Backup Policy and a BMR Backup Policy, puts you 
on the right track to protect and recover the system!

HTH
Simon 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Adrian Soetanto
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:11 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Does BMR Backup support for Exchange Files?

Dear all,

I want to make sure whether BMR backup will completely backup all the folders  
files that belong to Microsoft Exchange.
Especially for this folder: C:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\MDBDATA\, because when 
I try to browse  restore the BMR backup image (from Backup, Archive, and 
Restore GUI), I didn't see the *.edb files to be restored.
Since the *.edb files are critical, I need to back them up regularly, but it 
seems that the BMR backup doesn't back them up.
Does it need the agent for Microsoft Exchange?

Thank you for helping.

--
Best Regards,
  Adrian Soetanto
  PT. Bentoel Prima - Infrastructure Staff
  Jl. Raya Karanglo - Singosari, Malang
  Tel. (+62-341) 298 774 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 / Upgrade with fresh O/S NBU install steps

2010-03-24 Thread Marianne Van Den Berg
I do not believe it will work.

Use this TechNote as guideline:
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/337969.htm

Regards

M.

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Glen
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Sent: 24 March 2010 04:51 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 /
Upgrade with fresh O/S  NBU install steps

Hi Experts

We are looking at options to upgrade existing NBU 6.5.3 environment with

Win 2003 Master to NBU 7.
The easiest would obviously be  straight upgrade. But we'd also like to 
upgrade Win 2003 to 2008 (by doing fresh install) at the same time. NBU 
6.5 is currently installed onto a separate drive.

If we are to re-install everything from scratch ...
1. Is it possible to import 6.5.3 database straight into NBU 7?
2. Do we need to restore registry entries?
3. Will installing NBU 7 binaries on top of 6.5 do the trick (as the 
exisiting version is on a separate disk and will not be touched by Win 
2008 upgrade) ? I wonder if NBU install program will realise this is 
actually an upgrade (though registry entries are not present).

Regards

Glen


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 / Upgrade with fresh O/S NBU install steps

2010-03-24 Thread Sekhon Simrat S .
We are in the same situation. Restoring 6.5.3 catalog in NB 7.0 did not work 
for me. I haven't found any documents with the steps to restore 6.5.3 catalog 
to NB 7.0.
Our NB 6.5.3 server is actually on Windows 2003 R2 x86. 
I have tested the following in the test lab. Keeping the same name for NB 
server is important.

1. We were able to install 6.5.3 on a fresh install of Windows 2008 x 86 (same 
name as production) and then install NB 6.5.3 on the 2008 server. (Yes you can 
install 6.5.3 master/media on win 2008 x86 even though it is not support by 
Symantec) 2. Import 6.5.3 catalog from the production server into the test 
6.5.3 installed on Windows 2008 x 86.
3. After the catalog import is successful, you will need to upgrade NB 6.5.3 on 
Windows 2008 x 86 to NB 7.0 using 7.0 media. Yes NB 7.0 will detect this as an 
upgrade and will upgrade 6.5.3 to 7.0.
4. Now you are left with NB 7.0 installed on Windows 2008 x86. You will need to 
backup this catalog.
5. Intall Windows 2008 R2 x64 for production. Install a fresh copy of NB 7.0 
and restore the catalog you created in the test lab install of Windows 2008 x86.

This has worked for us in test.


Thanks
Simrat

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Marianne Van 
Den Berg
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:02 AM
To: Glen Vassileff; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 / Upgrade 
with fresh O/S  NBU install steps

I do not believe it will work.

Use this TechNote as guideline:
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/337969.htm

Regards

M.

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Glen
Vassileff
Sent: 24 March 2010 04:51 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 /
Upgrade with fresh O/S  NBU install steps

Hi Experts

We are looking at options to upgrade existing NBU 6.5.3 environment with

Win 2003 Master to NBU 7.
The easiest would obviously be  straight upgrade. But we'd also like to 
upgrade Win 2003 to 2008 (by doing fresh install) at the same time. NBU 
6.5 is currently installed onto a separate drive.

If we are to re-install everything from scratch ...
1. Is it possible to import 6.5.3 database straight into NBU 7?
2. Do we need to restore registry entries?
3. Will installing NBU 7 binaries on top of 6.5 do the trick (as the 
exisiting version is on a separate disk and will not be touched by Win 
2008 upgrade) ? I wonder if NBU install program will realise this is 
actually an upgrade (though registry entries are not present).

Regards

Glen


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 / Upgrade with fresh O/S NBU install steps

2010-03-24 Thread Nicholas
I guess this is the best way for doing this (maybe the only way)
I had problems in the past while trying to recover a 6.5.3 catalog into 
a 6.5.4 master server. There were some schema changes in the nbu 
database in 6.5.4 and I had to rollback to 6.5.3.1, do the catalog 
recover and then upgrade to 6.5.4


Em 24/3/2010 09:25, Sekhon Simrat S. escreveu:
 We are in the same situation. Restoring 6.5.3 catalog in NB 7.0 did not work 
 for me. I haven't found any documents with the steps to restore 6.5.3 catalog 
 to NB 7.0.
 Our NB 6.5.3 server is actually on Windows 2003 R2 x86.
 I have tested the following in the test lab. Keeping the same name for NB 
 server is important.

 1. We were able to install 6.5.3 on a fresh install of Windows 2008 x 86 
 (same name as production) and then install NB 6.5.3 on the 2008 server. (Yes 
 you can install 6.5.3 master/media on win 2008 x86 even though it is not 
 support by Symantec) 2. Import 6.5.3 catalog from the production server into 
 the test 6.5.3 installed on Windows 2008 x 86.
 3. After the catalog import is successful, you will need to upgrade NB 6.5.3 
 on Windows 2008 x 86 to NB 7.0 using 7.0 media. Yes NB 7.0 will detect this 
 as an upgrade and will upgrade 6.5.3 to 7.0.
 4. Now you are left with NB 7.0 installed on Windows 2008 x86. You will need 
 to backup this catalog.
 5. Intall Windows 2008 R2 x64 for production. Install a fresh copy of NB 7.0 
 and restore the catalog you created in the test lab install of Windows 2008 
 x86.

 This has worked for us in test.


 Thanks
 Simrat

 -Original Message-
 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Marianne Van 
 Den Berg
 Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:02 AM
 To: Glen Vassileff; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 / 
 Upgrade with fresh O/S  NBU install steps

 I do not believe it will work.

 Use this TechNote as guideline:
 http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/337969.htm

 Regards

 M.

 -Original Message-
 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Glen
 Vassileff
 Sent: 24 March 2010 04:51 AM
 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 /
 Upgrade with fresh O/S  NBU install steps

 Hi Experts

 We are looking at options to upgrade existing NBU 6.5.3 environment with

 Win 2003 Master to NBU 7.
 The easiest would obviously be  straight upgrade. But we'd also like to
 upgrade Win 2003 to 2008 (by doing fresh install) at the same time. NBU
 6.5 is currently installed onto a separate drive.

 If we are to re-install everything from scratch ...
 1. Is it possible to import 6.5.3 database straight into NBU 7?
 2. Do we need to restore registry entries?
 3. Will installing NBU 7 binaries on top of 6.5 do the trick (as the
 exisiting version is on a separate disk and will not be touched by Win
 2008 upgrade) ? I wonder if NBU install program will realise this is
 actually an upgrade (though registry entries are not present).

 Regards

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 / Upgrade with fresh O/S NBU install steps

2010-03-24 Thread Martin, Jonathan
Are you going to Windows 2008 R2 or Windows 2008? If you are going to
Windows 2008 R2 you need to upgrade to 6.5.5 (for compatibility
reasons).

My upgrade path would look something like:

1. Run consistency check per NBU 7.0 Upgrade instructions.
http://support.veritas.com/docs/340464
2. Create hot catalog backup of original master.
3. Install NetBackup 6.5.5 on new master (NetBackup 6.5.3 for non-R2).
4. Restore hot catalog backup to new master. (Might want to run another
consistency check here.)
5. Upgrade new master to 7.0

That could take a while depending on your catalog size, but if anything
goes wrong along the way you can always go back to your original master.

-Jonathan


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Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:51 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 /
Upgrade with fresh O/S  NBU install steps

Hi Experts

We are looking at options to upgrade existing NBU 6.5.3 environment with

Win 2003 Master to NBU 7.
The easiest would obviously be  straight upgrade. But we'd also like to 
upgrade Win 2003 to 2008 (by doing fresh install) at the same time. NBU 
6.5 is currently installed onto a separate drive.

If we are to re-install everything from scratch ...
1. Is it possible to import 6.5.3 database straight into NBU 7?
2. Do we need to restore registry entries?
3. Will installing NBU 7 binaries on top of 6.5 do the trick (as the 
exisiting version is on a separate disk and will not be touched by Win 
2008 upgrade) ? I wonder if NBU install program will realise this is 
actually an upgrade (though registry entries are not present).

Regards

Glen


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Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL Question - Distribution of Backups

2010-03-24 Thread Jonathan Dyck
Correctly configuring a VTL setup to be optimized, there's more than a
complicated answer out there... If I were you, I'd do something along
the lines of the following:

Assumptions,  in this example you'd have 3 VTLs, 6 media servers...
- each individual VTL has roughly the same throughput capability (ie:
they can all sustain 400 MB/s simultaneously).
- you have an evenly distributed number of media servers you can assign
per VTL (ie: you have 3 VTLs and 6 generic media servers, whatever
type, you assign 2 media servers drives from 1 VTL).  Each of these
media servers can pump through the same amount of data (ie: 200 MB/s
sustained)
- you don't need maximum drive availability, you need maximum drive
efficiency 
- you're able to divvy up you data types in roughly equal amounts (ie:
In this example, you'd have x3 data types,  like Exchange data, Unix
data, Windows data, structured data, unstructured, etc. Etc.,  however
you define it)

What I'd do,
- for each VTL, assign an equal amount of drives to the two media
servers that will be using it
- create one storage unit group per VTL, round-robin which storage unit
within the group gets assigned (so you'll flip-flop between media
servers)
- repeat for all your VTLs/media servers
- assign 1 data type per storage unit group.  So if your Exchange is
1/3 of your total full backup, assign your all NBU policies that backup
Exchange to the same storage unit group.
- make sure all media servers are busy an equal amount of time / are
pumping through roughly the same amount during a full backup window (I
like to assume incremental aren't my biggest problem, which is usually
the case)

Hopefully in this scenario, you'd have your best dedupe ratio per VTL
(so least amount of storage used), you'd have your best throughput per
VTL (because you've optimized your dedupe VTL for reading, not writing,
because most of your blocks are deduped and not actually written right?
;-) and your media servers should be roughly busy for an equivalent
amount of time, so you're not idling on any VTL throughout the
weekend.

Nice problem to have there,  with the multiple VTLs.

Cheers.



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Sent: March 23, 2010 9:22 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] VTL Question - Distribution of Backups

We have multiple VTL's and chose to use them as a Storage Unit Group.
They are capable of deduplication.  The vendor states that the amount of
data/VTL increases the dedupe time and we are struggling to complete
this process.  Supposedly the time to dedupe has nothing to do with the
dedupe ratio - it is simply how much data that resides in a VTL (post
Dedupe + new data).  I see 2 VTL management philosophies and would like
your ideas for a 3rd or a hybrid idea.


The easiest to manage is to spread the data across all VTL's using NBU's
balancing algorythms.  However, even after dedupe processing, I expect
that over time the full backup will exist in every VTL.  Since total
storage consumed has an impact on the dedupe process, I want to find an
alternative.  That's where I need your help.

I've been thinking of the old college question of what is the best way
to fill a jar with rocks, pebbles,  sand.  Spread out your 1 TB Rocks
equally, Fill with 500 GB pebbles, and then define where the remaining
sand goes?

Storage Unit Groups don't appear to be the best fit for VTL's if you
want efficiency.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 / Upgrade with fresh O/S NBU install steps

2010-03-24 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Martin, Jonathan jmart...@intersil.comwrote:

 Are you going to Windows 2008 R2 or Windows 2008? If you are going to
 Windows 2008 R2 you need to upgrade to 6.5.5 (for compatibility
 reasons).


Almost but not quite.  6.5.5 does NOT support Windows 2008 R2 as a SERVER -
only as a CLIENT.  If you want to run a Windows 2008 R2 master server or
media server, you need to be running NetBackup 7.0.  Furthermore, the
Windows 2008 servers must be running on x64, not x86 or ia64.

The OS compatibility lists are your friends.
http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/NBUESVR_digest.htm

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Resetting the archive bit on windows backups

2010-03-24 Thread bob944
 This occurred to me on the way to work.  Does the NB
 client for windows reset all the archive bits on files
 after the backup's completion?
 
 That's the only thing that makes sense as I see it. 
 If it reset the bit after each file, then a last-minute
 failure of the backup would not let the next incremental
 backup what failed the previous run.

This has always been documented--but never well--in the Admin Guide.
See the NetBackup Administrator's Guide, Volume 1.(I looked in the
7.0 manual in case it's more clear than earlier versions--but it's
still ambiguous on the obvious questions)

  Configuring hosts
Configuring host properties
  Client settings (Windows) properties
Wait time before clearing archive bit
Incrementals based on timestamp
Incrementals based on archive bit
  (fulls clear it, diffs clear if successful)

There's a new (to me) technote on this that fills in a few blanks:

  http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/239393.htm



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[Veritas-bu] OpsCenter Reprots, or Blat Reports

2010-03-24 Thread Lawler, Michael C.
Good Afternoon all, I'm hopeing a scripting expert is lurking out there 
someplace for me...or maybe not even an expert, but someone know understands it 
better than I at least...

Currently I run a couple of reports manually and I'd like to automate them thru 
OpsCenter if possible (we don't have Analytics licensed, so it's just the base 
NOM upgrade) or through a Blat script if it's not possible to get it from 
OpsCenter...

Here's what I'm in need of:

A report showing the backup status of a specific client (easy enough) and if 
it's a status 1 a list of the skipped files that were missed (havn't gotten his 
part figured out yet).

A report showing the media ID for the tapes that were used for all of the daily 
backups for the last week, and another for the full backups used over the 
weekend (to be run on Monday's and Friday's).

Like I said, I get these easy enough by going into NBU and running the reports 
there, but I don't have it automated yet.  For the skipped files I'm currently 
going into the job details and doing a copy/paste to get the info we need...not 
a huge hassle, but if it can be automated why do it by hand, right?

Thanks for your help everyone.

- Mike


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 / Upgrade with fresh O/S NBU install steps

2010-03-24 Thread Martin, Jonathan
Good point, however I suspect it would work. My testing with 2008 and
2008 R2 shows the OS are similar, with the exception of system state
backups (new API by Microsoft required in R2).  If he was going to R2 I
suppose you could build a 3rd 2008 server, restore to that and then
repeat to get to R2. I guess it depends on how much testing you are
willing to commit to make the solution happen.

 

Good luck!

 

-Jonathan

 

From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:28 AM
To: Martin, Jonathan
Cc: Glen Vassileff; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 /
Upgrade with fresh O/S  NBU install steps

 

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Martin, Jonathan 
jmart...@intersil.com wrote:

Are you going to Windows 2008 R2 or Windows 2008? If you are going to
Windows 2008 R2 you need to upgrade to 6.5.5 (for compatibility
reasons).


Almost but not quite.  6.5.5 does NOT support Windows 2008 R2 as a
SERVER - only as a CLIENT.  If you want to run a Windows 2008 R2 master
server or media server, you need to be running NetBackup 7.0.
Furthermore, the Windows 2008 servers must be running on x64, not x86 or
ia64.

The OS compatibility lists are your friends.  
http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/NBUESVR_digest.htm

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 / Upgrade with fresh O/S NBU install steps

2010-03-24 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Martin, Jonathan jmart...@intersil.comwrote:

  Good point, however I suspect it would work. My testing with 2008 and
 2008 R2 shows the OS are similar, with the exception of system state backups
 (new API by Microsoft required in R2).  If he was going to R2 I suppose you
 could build a 3rd 2008 server, restore to that and then repeat to get to
 R2. I guess it depends on how much testing you are willing to commit to make
 the solution happen.


There's a big difference between I suspect it would work and it's
supported by the vendor.  Do you KNOW what will happen if you log a call on
your Windows 2008 R2 6.5.x master server?  Are you going to be satisfied
with them telling you to downgrade away from R2 or upgrading to NUB 7.0
before they help you?  Is your management happy with suspect and guess?
I know mine wouldn't be.

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] OpsCenter Reprots, or Blat Reports

2010-03-24 Thread Ron Jack (Systems Network)
Lawler, Michael C. wrote:
 Good Afternoon all, I'm hopeing a scripting expert is lurking out there 
 someplace for me...or maybe not even an expert, but someone know understands 
 it better than I at least...
 
 Currently I run a couple of reports manually and I'd like to automate them 
 thru OpsCenter if possible (we don't have Analytics licensed, so it's just 
 the base NOM upgrade) or through a Blat script if it's not possible to get it 
 from OpsCenter...
 
 Here's what I'm in need of:
 
 A report showing the backup status of a specific client (easy enough) and if 
 it's a status 1 a list of the skipped files that were missed (havn't gotten 
 his part figured out yet).
 

bperror -U -problems -t BACKUP -hoursago 24 -columns 250 -client
client_name | egrep file:

 A report showing the media ID for the tapes that were used for all of the 
 daily backups for the last week, and another for the full backups used over 
 the weekend (to be run on Monday's and Friday's).
 

bpimagelist -d 03/22/2010 -e 03/23/2010 -U -media

 Like I said, I get these easy enough by going into NBU and running the 
 reports there, but I don't have it automated yet.  For the skipped files I'm 
 currently going into the job details and doing a copy/paste to get the info 
 we need...not a huge hassle, but if it can be automated why do it by hand, 
 right?
 
 Thanks for your help everyone.
 
 - Mike
 

command line equivalents to GUI reports, here:
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/247902.htm


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[Veritas-bu] VCDB backups of 2008 server failng :(

2010-03-24 Thread pranav batra


Hello Geeks,

We take VCB backups of 2003 machines via a proxy server( Also a media server) .
We are using Virtual center server 2.5 and ESX server 3.5 update 4.

Recently we have migrated one of our wins 2003 server to 2008 .
Bu its backups are faing with VCB though when  i take its normal backup it 
successed.

Is this any kind of limitaon of VMWare with netbackup for 2008 backups or i am 
lacking something ?

Please advise.




Thanks and Regards

Pranav Batra



 


  
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[Veritas-bu] Tape drive constantly going PEND-TLD

2010-03-24 Thread Preston, Douglas
NBU 6.5.3 Using SSO
ADIC I2000
14 LTO2 drives

Master server and 4 Media servers are Windows 2003 all running NBU 6.5.3
Using Veritas drivers on Master and all Media servers.

I have one of my drives in a state of PEND-DLT
With no jobs running on any server.

I have tried removing all drives from NBU, 
removing the Library from NBU, 
stopping all services, 
removing PEMPERSIST2.
Removing all files from \program files\veritas\netbackup\db\media\drives\
Removing all files from \program files\veritas\netbackup\db\media\tpreq\
Removing all files from \program files\veritas\volmgr\misc\



Restarting services,
Recreating the library 
Recreating the drives
Inventorying the library


Wait 5 minutes and the drive goes back to PEND-TLD

Anyone have any ideas oh now to fix this issue?


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Systems Engineer
LERETA, LLC
Client Server team
1123 Park View DR
Covina CA 91724
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 / Upgrade with fresh O/S NBU install steps

2010-03-24 Thread Martin, Jonathan
Yes Ed, from your many posts we all understand that your situation
allows you infinite time for testing, retesting, and more testing.
Kudos. I suspect you work for the government, probably never cross the
street, except at a crosswalk. However I work in a situation where this
is an acceptable shortcut, especially given that you have a untouched
rock solid back out plan (put the original master back into place.) I'll
try and remember to disclaimer my comments in the future This won't
appease Ed Wilts' management, but for the rest of you it's ok. in the
future.

 

-Jonathan

 

From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:47 PM
To: Martin, Jonathan
Cc: Glen Vassileff; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 /
Upgrade with fresh O/S  NBU install steps

 

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Martin, Jonathan
jmart...@intersil.com wrote:

Good point, however I suspect it would work. My testing with 2008 and
2008 R2 shows the OS are similar, with the exception of system state
backups (new API by Microsoft required in R2).  If he was going to R2 I
suppose you could build a 3rd 2008 server, restore to that and then
repeat to get to R2. I guess it depends on how much testing you are
willing to commit to make the solution happen.

 

There's a big difference between I suspect it would work and it's
supported by the vendor.  Do you KNOW what will happen if you log a
call on your Windows 2008 R2 6.5.x master server?  Are you going to be
satisfied with them telling you to downgrade away from R2 or upgrading
to NUB 7.0 before they help you?  Is your management happy with
suspect and guess?  I know mine wouldn't be.

   .../Ed

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ewi...@ewilts.org

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Re: [Veritas-bu] 2 master servers with netbackup 6.0 MP4

2010-03-24 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 01:22:24AM -0700, Grigore Petrisor wrote:

 First thing, we tried to partition the library and it didn?t work. I
 mean the second server was always ?seeing? the robotics as controlled
 by the first server.

That sounds like either a problem with the library or the
configuration.  The partitions should be independent just so you can do
this sort of thing.

 Whatever we tried, we didn?t succeed to set it as locally controlled. Should 
 we 
 try and reinstall the second server? I think this is the best solution... As 
 for 
 the library partitions, we didn?t manage to assign one partition to a server 
 particularly, you just create two partitions and the two servers are ?seeing? 
 all the drives. Is it because switch zoning or you could divide the drives 
 between the two servers as long as you keep the same drive assignment as the 
 partition?s?

If the drives are directly connected to the fabric, you're responsible
for zoning them to the right machines.  

If the drives go through the library for access, then maybe you can set
some access controls there.  

Since library partitioning is a logical construct, either the library
gives you a way to control access (WWN masking or something), or it
gives you independent physical ports that you can use.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape drive constantly going PEND-TLD

2010-03-24 Thread Preston, Douglas
Thanks Jeff,

I checked the library and found this drive did indeed need to be power cycled.  
Once it powered  cycled the drive is no longer going PEND-TLD.


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From: Jeff Cleverley [mailto:jeff.clever...@avagotech.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:32 PM
To: Preston, Douglas
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape drive constantly going PEND-TLD

Doug,

I can't help you from the Windows side but I've seen that type of message on my 
hpux master when there was a problem associated with the drive or possibly the 
library.  I'm guessing the library is OK if this is the only drive that is fail.

You may check for any changes in zoning or drive replacement.  If they are 
fibre drives the WWN will have changed and your server may not be able to talk 
with it anymore.

Jeff
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Preston, Douglas 
dlpres...@lereta.commailto:dlpres...@lereta.com wrote:
NBU 6.5.3 Using SSO
ADIC I2000
14 LTO2 drives

Master server and 4 Media servers are Windows 2003 all running NBU 6.5.3
Using Veritas drivers on Master and all Media servers.

I have one of my drives in a state of PEND-DLT
With no jobs running on any server.

I have tried removing all drives from NBU,
removing the Library from NBU,
stopping all services,
removing PEMPERSIST2.
Removing all files from \program files\veritas\netbackup\db\media\drives\
Removing all files from \program files\veritas\netbackup\db\media\tpreq\
Removing all files from \program files\veritas\volmgr\misc\



Restarting services,
Recreating the library
Recreating the drives
Inventorying the library


Wait 5 minutes and the drive goes back to PEND-TLD

Anyone have any ideas oh now to fix this issue?


Doug Preston
Systems Engineer
LERETA, LLC
Client Server team
1123 Park View DR
Covina CA 91724
Phone 626-339-5221 Ext 1104
Direct Line 626-667-1447
Email  dlpres...@lereta.commailto:dlpres...@lereta.com

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 /Upgrade with fresh O/S NBU install steps

2010-03-24 Thread Martin, Jonathan
I'm sorry Ed, for my testy response. I didn't mean to attack you
personally.

 

I simply meant to express that I, and many other members of this forum
work on quasi-supported or completely unsupported systems every day. We
understand the risks involved, we take necessary precautions, and often
we succeed. So while I can appreciate that calling Symantec with an
unsupported configuration might put your situation in a bind, such a
situation might be completely acceptable to someone else.

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 / Upgrade with fresh O/S NBU install steps

2010-03-24 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Martin, Jonathan jmart...@intersil.comwrote:

  Yes Ed, from your many posts we all understand that your situation allows
 you infinite time for testing, retesting, and more testing.

I have a very, very large department of testers at my disposal.  They just
happen to work for Symantec and they test a LOT more things than I could
ever hope to test.  It's not quite infinite, but hundreds of them outnumber
the 3 of us on our storage team.

 Kudos. I suspect you work for the government,

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ed+wilts+netbackup

The first link returned will show that you're wrong.  Again.

Cheers,

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Can NBU 6.5 database be imported into NBU 7 /Upgrade with fresh O/S NBU install steps

2010-03-24 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Martin, Jonathan jmart...@intersil.comwrote:



  I, and many other members of this forum work on quasi-supported or
 completely unsupported systems every day. We understand the risks involved,
 we take necessary precautions, and often we succeed.


And many other times, people do this and have absolutely no clue what
they're doing, why they did it, how to undo what they did, and are
absolutely shocked to discover that not only are they unsupported, they've
really shot themselves in one foot, reloaded, and fired again.  They may
have corrupted their catalog or had to throw away days of backup information
because of something absolutely stupid that they have done.  They don't read
the manuals and can't find the technotes.  Google is beyond them.  I believe
that you're not normally in that group, but it's a large group and
unfortunately you're probably in the minority.

And that was the kind answer :-)

   .../Ed
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