[Veritas-bu] NBAC vs hot catalog
We are setting up NBAC in our NetBackup environments but came to the conclusion that hot catalog backups are not longer working / supported when you run vxss in restricted mode. Does anyone of you could think of a workaround ? The 2 possible workarounds I see are: - cold catalog backup every month and daily backup of the images and class folder - realtime for the catalog Best Regards, Bart WALLEBROEK ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.6 client on FreeBSD 7.2 host
We are seeing the exact same slow speeds when pulling from local disk as well. It appears to be not the NetApp backend but something client specific. That's why I was trying to inquire if FBSD or its client had known issues or not. On 09/10/2010 03:51 PM, Cornely, David wrote: Not necessarily. Have you checked any of the performance stats on the filer? Do you know if you're overrunning NVRAM or experiencing back-to-backup checkpoints? I've seen this happen with NetApp before, where performance starts out fine but if the workload is such that you start to overrun cache you're done for. Another place to look is the NFS mount options on the client. Have you tried testing backups with different mount options - How about modifying the rsize or setting the noacl option (probably a bunch of overhead here with this many files)? Have you tried jumbo frames (making sure every hop in the network is also using jumbo frames)? Obviously you'd need to then do some test restores to make sure the files are restored in the state needed/expected. You've introduced a new layer of access to this data, so you'll likely have to test multiple configurations for this access before you find the best combo. Identify all the different configuration points in this new path and then breakdown the options you have for each. You may have to draw up a small matrix to map out all the different combinations to test. But even so, 1 billion small files is by far the largest amount I've ever heard of, and I agree with Bryan's assessment. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Nate Sanders Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 13:21 To: Bryan Bahnmiller Cc: Sanders, Nate; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.6 client on FreeBSD 7.2 host Sure but 3-4MB/s?! NDMP to tape is 40-50MB/s. Regular jobs to tape are 160MB/s. There is no excuse why the speed should be THIS slow. So I went back and double checked a different job for the same host, which was an OS backup. That job was also 6MB/s. So obviously it's something with the client and not the data/directory being backed up. All of our other OS backups are 10x-20x faster. This must be a host problem or a FBSD client problem. On 09/10/2010 02:54 PM, Bryan Bahnmiller wrote: Nate, Any filesystem you have will start out quickly but then drop in speed as it starts drilling down into the directory structure. The more directory levels you have, the slower it is. Which makes sense, since you are sort of following a tree structure down to the lower directory levels. Every time you drop down in a tree structure, you are branching to how ever many directories you have in that particular branch... And when you finish one branch, you pop back up a level and branch down to the next one. So you are following index links to index links to until you hit the actual file being backed up. Simple testing showed me long ago that the fewer levels you have in the directory tree, the quicker the backups. And depending on the filesystem, it can be orders of magnitude difference in speed. Bryan Nate Sanders sande...@dmotorworks.com Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 09/10/2010 02:02 PM To cc veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5.6 client on FreeBSD 7.2 host Okay so that multiplex test was user error. Didn't have max streams per drive setup right. At 4 streams we saw 40MB/s, at 8 streams we see 50MB/s. But... we have a new problem. Within 1-2 minutes the I/O starts dropping. At 3:00 minutes into an 8 stream job, we're down to 38MB/s. Earlier when testing at 4 streams, we were 10 minutes in and I/O had slowly dropped from 40MB/s down to 12MB/s. What in the world is going on? On 09/10/2010 01:41 PM, Nate Sanders wrote: Yes we are well aware of the limitations of NDMP and small files, thus the reason we're looking at trying NFS w/ snapshots. Our NetApp 6040 is peaking around 40-50MB/s but what the issue is right now is that we're getting such low performance from this FBSD box via NFS. I turned on multiplexing to 4, and we're still seeing only 3-4MB/s. On 09/10/2010 01:03 PM, Martin, Jonathan wrote: I've tested NDMP on 6 differetnt arrays and it has never moved millions of small files well. We maxed out backup performance on our NetApp FAS 2xxx with 2 streams at approx 20MB/sec total. We're hoping to test SMTape, which purportedly does a bit level dump of the entire array. I haven't had a chance to test this yet, but according to NetApp it will get us our weekly full and drive LTO3. We'll then need to put some sort of forever incremental or snapshot backup in-between the SMTape dumps. -Jonathan -Original Message- From:
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBAC vs hot catalog
Why do think that hot catalog backup does not work or is not supported with NBAC? /Girish --- On Mon, 9/13/10, WALLEBROEK Bart bart.wallebr...@swift.com wrote: From: WALLEBROEK Bart bart.wallebr...@swift.com Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBAC vs hot catalog To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 4:50 PM We are setting up NBAC in our NetBackup environments but came to the conclusion that hot catalog backups are not longer working / supported when you run vxss in restricted mode. Does anyone of you could think of a workaround ? The 2 possible workarounds I see are: - cold catalog backup every month and daily backup of the images and class folder - realtime for the catalog Best Regards, Bart WALLEBROEK ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Error code 240
I am facing problem with error code 240 Policy is Default... Could u please some told me abt how Default policy works? Default policy failed with consecutive ec-240 Thanks, Shekhar. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 tape eject from CLI
Running the command sudo vmchange -w -res -ml 300111 -rt TLD -rn 0 -rh backup1 -verbose the process ends with return 0 yet nothing is printed on my console and no tape is ejected into the mailslot. Am I missing something here? Single master/media server on NBU 6.5.6 -- Nate SandersDigital Motorworks System Administrator (512) 692 - 1038 This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Error code 240
From the Help menu: The appropriate schedule was not found in the specified policy. For example, a user backup specified a policy name but no user backup schedule exists in that policy. Try the following: Specify a different policy or create a schedule of the needed type in the policy. After you make the correction, retry the operation. So check the policy to see if you have made a schedule that you need. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of shekhar deshingkar Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 10:27 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Error code 240 I am facing problem with error code 240 Policy is Default... Could u please some told me abt how Default policy works? Default policy failed with consecutive ec-240 Thanks, Shekhar. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 tape eject from CLI
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:05:53AM -0500, Nate Sanders wrote: Running the command sudo vmchange -w -res -ml 300111 -rt TLD -rn 0 -rh backup1 -verbose the process ends with return 0 yet nothing is printed on my console and no tape is ejected into the mailslot. Am I missing something here? Single master/media server on NBU 6.5.6 I add '-single_cycle' and '-multi_eject' to my setups. I'm not sure if either or both is necessary. vmchange -multi_eject -w -res -ml 300111 -rt TLD -rn 0 -rh backup1 -single_cycle -- Darren ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] old policies
I zip the Policy in /usr/openv/netbackup/db/class to an archive directory, then delete the Policy. If the specifics of the Policy ever needs to be referred to, or if it needs to be reinstated, it is easily done. Thanks -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of veritas-bu-requ...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 1:21 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 53, Issue 6 Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to veritas-bu-requ...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu You can reach the person managing the list at veritas-bu-ow...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Veritas-bu digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: old policies (David McMullin) 2. Re: old policies (Ed Wilts) 3. Re: Email Notifications - Changed after 6.5.6 (William Brown) 4. Windows 2008 R2 NBU 7.0 Master, attempting CIFS Basic Disk S (spaldam) 5. emmlib_UpdateDriveRuntime failed, status=258 status=304 (Michael Graff Andersen) 6. NBU 6.5.6 client on FreeBSD 7.2 host (Nate Sanders) 7. Re: NBU 6.5.6 client on FreeBSD 7.2 host (Martin, Jonathan) 8. Re: NBU 6.5.6 client on FreeBSD 7.2 host (Nate Sanders) 9. Re: NBU 6.5.6 client on FreeBSD 7.2 host (Nate Sanders) 10. Re: NBU 6.5.6 client on FreeBSD 7.2 host (Bryan Bahnmiller) 11. Re: NBU 6.5.6 client on FreeBSD 7.2 host (Nate Sanders) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:14:53 -0400 From: David McMullin david.mcmul...@cbc-companies.com Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] old policies To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: c83d277d82594a4c8a269b151c83b89a013a1c839...@cbcmail07.cbc.local Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My standard is to make a policy that never runs named ARCHIVED and put the clients there. If clients are not in a policy they do not show up in various lists, NB should scan the images directory for them but does not... It is also easier when installing to put them in a policy that does not run on a schedule so adding and testing is simplified. -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 07:49:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Alberto Lima dos Santos carlos_lis...@yahoo.com.br Subject: [Veritas-bu] Res: Deleting policies To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Message-ID: 669254.40566...@web52403.mail.re2.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Delete policies do not affect the images backups, but?you need remember the client name when?you need a restore to find the images. T+ ? Carlos Alberto L. dos Santos (TOCA) Eng. de Computa??o - Jundia? - SP Brasil http://www.linkedin.com/in/carlostoca http://netbackupblog.blogspot.com/ carlos_lis...@yahoo.com.br - Mensagem original De: Nate Sanders sande...@dmotorworks.com Para: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Enviadas: Ter?a-feira, 31 de Agosto de 2010 15:33:54 Assunto: [Veritas-bu] Deleting policies In NBU 6.5.6, is there any danger in deleting policies via the GUI? Does this effect the ability to restore, reference, scan, search, or dig up information about old images on tape that used these now removed policies? -- Nate Sanders? ? ? ? ? ? Digital Motorworks System Administrator? ? ? (512) 692 - 1038 This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. ___ Veritas-bu maillist? -? Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:10:02 -0500 From: Ed Wilts ewi...@ewilts.org Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] old policies To: David McMullin david.mcmul...@cbc-companies.com Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: aanlktimgkqnjgma_urvdt-k+n+kcp2+kgx_ss6whu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:14
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 tape eject from CLI
That did it. What is -single_cycle? It's not even in the vmchange man page!! *facepalm* On 09/13/2010 11:57 AM, A Darren Dunham wrote: vmchange -multi_eject -w -res -ml 300111 -rt TLD -rn 0 -rh backup1 -single_cycle -- Nate SandersDigital Motorworks System Administrator (512) 692 - 1038 This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 tape eject from CLI
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 01:43:40PM -0500, Nate Sanders wrote: That did it. What is -single_cycle? It's not even in the vmchange man page!! *facepalm* No, it doesn't seem to be documented. I came across it in a discussion on the Symantec forum. There used to be some other ways of doing it in the pre-6.0 universe (also un- or under-documented), but they don't work in modern versions. -single_cycle doesn't do exactly the same thing but it works for me. -- Darren ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 tape eject from CLI
Yeah I have the command for 5.1MP6 single tape eject, that worked fine. But once I upgraded even building a proper command using the man page for vmchange still resulted in nothing. I even had -multi_eject in there. What ever -single_cycle is it fixed it. On 09/13/2010 01:51 PM, A Darren Dunham wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 01:43:40PM -0500, Nate Sanders wrote: That did it. What is -single_cycle? It's not even in the vmchange man page!! *facepalm* No, it doesn't seem to be documented. I came across it in a discussion on the Symantec forum. There used to be some other ways of doing it in the pre-6.0 universe (also un- or under-documented), but they don't work in modern versions. -single_cycle doesn't do exactly the same thing but it works for me. -- Nate SandersDigital Motorworks System Administrator (512) 692 - 1038 This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Error code 240
I assume you are referring to Application Backup schedule? When you select a database policy type, like Oracle, NetBackup automatically creates a Default-Application-Backup schedule with a 24 x 7 window. This schedule type is explained in detail in the agent guide for your database. You did not say which database or which NBU version - All NBU 6.5 manuals can be found here: http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/290282.htm (look under the heading called 'Database Extentions') All NBU 7 manuals: http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/341274.htm In short: Database policies normally have 2 schedules: One Automatic Backup schedule that controls when the policy should start. This schedule will initiate a connection to the client to start the script name that is specified in the Backup Selection. The client starts the database backup which starts a child job in Activity Monitor. This child job is a User type backup called Default-Application-Backup schedule. This schedule also determines the retention period for the backup, Hope this helps Regards M. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu on behalf of shekhar deshingkar Sent: Mon 9/13/2010 5:27 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Error code 240 I am facing problem with error code 240 Policy is Default... Could u please some told me abt how Default policy works? Default policy failed with consecutive ec-240 Thanks, Shekhar. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Netbackup NDMP Configuration
I am working at a site that has 4 LTO tape drives shared between a Netbackup Master server and 1 media server (SSO option). They also have a Netapp Filer. It appears the vendors have made an attempt to share 2 of the 4 LTO drives with the filer as well over NDMP. Can anyone shed some light on whether or not this configuration works? Currently all jobs are still queuing even when a drive is available. The Netbackup speeds are as slow as 2mb/sec all backups (NDMP and non-NDMP Jobs). In the past, NDMP drives were dedicated to the SAN can only be used to backup the SAN. I have research this and cannot find any documentation supporting this information. Yet some consultants and sales says it should work. Environment: Veritas Netbackup 6.5 Windows 2008 64 bit Master Server and Media Netapp Filer Ontap 7.3.2 IBM System Storage TS3500 Tape Library All devices are connect via cisco fiber switch Thanks David Turner ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
