Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

[Dean]

Simon

The SAN Media Server is now called Enterprise Client. Just like the
old SAN Media Server, it can back itself up to the SAN, but no other
clients. The tier is based on CPU type/number, as Johathon and Ed
mentioned.

And yes, SSO is still seperate - licensed per shared tape drive.

(I have been working with NBU for 10 years now, and have *always* had
to advise Veritas/Symantec sales people on how their own licensing
scheme works. I guess some things never change)

Cheers
Dean


On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Martin, Jonathan  wrote:
> Directly off a recent Symantec quote:
>
> "SYMC NETBACKUP OPTION SHARED STORAGE OPTION 7.0 XPLAT 1 DRIVE STD LIC"
>
> This is a separate line item. Can't help you with the SAN Media server,
> we don't use them here. Tier 1 is single CPU / Socket, Tier 2 is dual
> CPU / Socket.
>
> -Jonathan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
> Simon (external)
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:42 AM
> To: Ed Wilts; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product
>
> All
> trying to purchase a 6.5 SAN Media License and SSO!
>
> Company have come back with this description, which I cannot tie in with
> what I need.
>
> symc netbackup enterprise server 7.0 TIER 1 is the description given.
>
> Any ideas if this is the new description for 6.5 San Media Server with
> SSO installed.
>
> I always thought SSO was seperate
> Thanks, S.
>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

[judy_hinchcliffe]

I use both. 
I have line items for :  NetBackup Windows Open Shared Storage
And items for:  NetBackup Windows Server SAN Media Server

They are both things I had to order and get a license key to put into the 
console.

(Now my SAN media server is just a media server that backs itself up - which is 
why I wanted the SSO , I do not use Fiber Transport - that is yet another 
license)

As for my keys - I have SSO key
And Remote Media server support keys

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:58 AM
To: WEAVER, Simon (external); VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

Directly off a recent Symantec quote:

"SYMC NETBACKUP OPTION SHARED STORAGE OPTION 7.0 XPLAT 1 DRIVE STD LIC"

This is a separate line item. Can't help you with the SAN Media server,
we don't use them here. Tier 1 is single CPU / Socket, Tier 2 is dual
CPU / Socket.

-Jonathan

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
Simon (external)
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:42 AM
To: Ed Wilts; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

All
trying to purchase a 6.5 SAN Media License and SSO!

Company have come back with this description, which I cannot tie in with
what I need.

symc netbackup enterprise server 7.0 TIER 1 is the description given.

Any ideas if this is the new description for 6.5 San Media Server with
SSO installed.

I always thought SSO was seperate
Thanks, S.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup training

[Nate Sanders]

Our previous NBU admin left in March and we were still on NBU 5.1MP6 at
the time. In July I was given the chance to attend class for NBU 7.0 and
apply this to the 6.5 migration I was working on. By Aug I had
successfully completed a 5.1->6.5.6 upgrade. I highly recommend the
classes, especially in-person. The 7.0 class will still translate very
well to 6.5, as I use my 7.0 books weekly in our existing 6.5.6 environment.

On 11/15/2010 09:03 AM, McDonald II, James F. wrote:
>
> We are currently using NBU 6.5 for Windows and I am trying to pass my
> admin duties on to a new hire.  I have not seen any training dates for
> NBU 6.5 for Windows for the Baltimore/D.C. area.  Has anyone had NBU
> 7.0 for Windows training?  Is it similar enough to the 6.5 training
> that we could send the new guy to 7.0 and he still get the training he
> needs to run 6.5?  I have emailed Symantec about upgrading to 7.0, but
> have not heard back and I just wanted to follow through on this
> possible option.
>
>  
>
> **Thanks,**
>
> **James McDonald**
>
> **System Administrator**
>
> **SAIC - IISBU**
>
> **410-312-2232**
>
> **mcdonal...@saic.com** 
>
>  
>

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

[Ed Wilts]

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:57 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) <
simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net> wrote:

>  What is the difference between tier1 license and tier2?
>

For Windows/Linux/SolarisX64 servers, Tier 1 is for 1 processor socket, Tier
2 is 2-3 sockets, Tier 3 is 4-7, and Tier 4 is 8 or more.


> Is there somewhere I can look, because the sales people seem to be more
> confused than I am !
>

The document is named "Licensing and Support Services" and your sales people
should be able to get their hands on it.  It's for Symantec employees and
partners only (and I'm neither :)).

   .../Ed
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup training

[WEAVER, Simon (external)]

Im struggling really. I passed my NetBackup 6.5 Exam, but that was based
purely on working experience.
 
I could not do any training or work away from the job, due to
commitments.
 
Books I used was the manuals as well. No real choice like the Microsoft
type of exams.
 
Would be nice if I could have web training well in fact ANY training
I could do at home would be good. I am used to training manuals and
hands on, but dont have the time to go on a course.
Simon



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 3:49 PM
To: McDonald II, James F.
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup training


I've been working through the web-based NBU 7.0 training (to fill in the
blanks before my cert exam).  There's not much in there that doesn't
also apply to 6.5.  By the time a new admin will get to the advanced
features of 7.0, you'll be there anyway.


BTW, unless you really don't like your new hire, don't subject him to
the web-based self-study Symantec course.  That course needs to be
yanked from the curriculum - it's absolutely horrible.  It consists of
an "English as a second language" speaker reading into a teleprompter
with slides you can't read unless you've got a >22' monitor at 1024x768
resolution.

   .../Ed

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:03 AM, McDonald II, James F.
 wrote:


We are currently using NBU 6.5 for Windows and I am trying to
pass my admin duties on to a new hire.  I have not seen any training
dates for NBU 6.5 for Windows for the Baltimore/D.C. area.  Has anyone
had NBU 7.0 for Windows training?  Is it similar enough to the 6.5
training that we could send the new guy to 7.0 and he still get the
training he needs to run 6.5?  I have emailed Symantec about upgrading
to 7.0, but have not heard back and I just wanted to follow through on
this possible option.

 

Thanks,

James McDonald

System Administrator

SAIC - IISBU

410-312-2232

mcdonal...@saic.com  

 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

[Martin, Jonathan]

Directly off a recent Symantec quote:

"SYMC NETBACKUP OPTION SHARED STORAGE OPTION 7.0 XPLAT 1 DRIVE STD LIC"

This is a separate line item. Can't help you with the SAN Media server,
we don't use them here. Tier 1 is single CPU / Socket, Tier 2 is dual
CPU / Socket.

-Jonathan

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
Simon (external)
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:42 AM
To: Ed Wilts; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

All
trying to purchase a 6.5 SAN Media License and SSO!

Company have come back with this description, which I cannot tie in with
what I need.

symc netbackup enterprise server 7.0 TIER 1 is the description given.

Any ideas if this is the new description for 6.5 San Media Server with
SSO installed.

I always thought SSO was seperate
Thanks, S.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

[WEAVER, Simon (external)]

Cheers Ed.
 
What is the difference between tier1 license and tier2?
 
Is there somewhere I can look, because the sales people seem to be more
confused than I am ! 



From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 3:54 PM
To: WEAVER, Simon (external)
Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: Right product



On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:42 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external)
 wrote:


trying to purchase a 6.5 SAN Media License and SSO!

Company have come back with this description, which I cannot tie
in with
what I need.

symc netbackup enterprise server 7.0 TIER 1 is the description
given.

Any ideas if this is the new description for 6.5 San Media
Server with
SSO installed.

I always thought SSO was seperate



SSO is still separate.From the "Licensing and Support Services"
guide:

NetBackup Shared Storage Option

NetBackup Shared Storage Option dynamically shares individual tape
drives, standalone or in a robotic tape library,
among multiple NetBackup Enterprise Servers and NDMP NAS systems. These
servers can be a NetBackup Master
Server, NetBackup Media Server, or NetBackup SAN Media Server.

NetBackup Shared Storage Option is licensed per shared tape drive,
regardless of the manufacturer, type of device, or
number of NetBackup Servers attached to the SAN. The NetBackup Shared
Storage Option license is in addition to any
required NetBackup Library Based Tape Drive licenses. If the shared tape
drive is not included in a tape library, then only
a Share Storage Option license is required. The Shared Storage Option is
not needed when used with the NetBackup
Virtual Tape Option. 

   .../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

[Ed Wilts]

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:42 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) <
simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net> wrote:

> trying to purchase a 6.5 SAN Media License and SSO!
>
> Company have come back with this description, which I cannot tie in with
> what I need.
>
> symc netbackup enterprise server 7.0 TIER 1 is the description given.
>
> Any ideas if this is the new description for 6.5 San Media Server with
> SSO installed.
>
> I always thought SSO was seperate
>

SSO is still separate.From the "Licensing and Support Services" guide:

*NetBackup Shared Storage Option*

NetBackup Shared Storage Option dynamically shares individual tape drives,
standalone or in a robotic tape library,
among multiple NetBackup Enterprise Servers and NDMP NAS systems. These
servers can be a NetBackup Master
Server, NetBackup Media Server, or NetBackup SAN Media Server.

NetBackup Shared Storage Option is licensed per shared tape drive,
regardless of the manufacturer, type of device, or
number of NetBackup Servers attached to the SAN. The NetBackup Shared
Storage Option license is in addition to any
required NetBackup Library Based Tape Drive licenses. If the shared tape
drive is not included in a tape library, then only
a Share Storage Option license is required. The Shared Storage Option is not
needed when used with the NetBackup
Virtual Tape Option.

   .../Ed
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup training

[Ed Wilts]

I've been working through the web-based NBU 7.0 training (to fill in the
blanks before my cert exam).  There's not much in there that doesn't also
apply to 6.5.  By the time a new admin will get to the advanced features of
7.0, you'll be there anyway.

BTW, unless you really don't like your new hire, don't subject him to the
web-based self-study Symantec course.  That course needs to be yanked from
the curriculum - it's absolutely horrible.  It consists of an "English as a
second language" speaker reading into a teleprompter with slides you can't
read unless you've got a >22' monitor at 1024x768 resolution.

   .../Ed

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:03 AM, McDonald II, James F. <
james.f.mcdonald...@saic.com> wrote:

>  We are currently using NBU 6.5 for Windows and I am trying to pass my
> admin duties on to a new hire.  I have not seen any training dates for NBU
> 6.5 for Windows for the Baltimore/D.C. area.  Has anyone had NBU 7.0 for
> Windows training?  Is it similar enough to the 6.5 training that we could
> send the new guy to 7.0 and he still get the training he needs to run 6.5?
> I have emailed Symantec about upgrading to 7.0, but have not heard back and
> I just wanted to follow through on this possible option.
>
>
>
> *Thanks,*
>
> *James McDonald*
>
> *System Administrator*
>
> *SAIC - IISBU*
>
> *410-312-2232*
>
> *mcdonal...@saic.com* 
>
>
>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Right product

[WEAVER, Simon (external)]

All
trying to purchase a 6.5 SAN Media License and SSO!

Company have come back with this description, which I cannot tie in with
what I need.

symc netbackup enterprise server 7.0 TIER 1 is the description given.

Any ideas if this is the new description for 6.5 San Media Server with
SSO installed.

I always thought SSO was seperate
Thanks, S.

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[Veritas-bu] NetBackup training

[McDonald II, James F.]

We are currently using NBU 6.5 for Windows and I am trying to pass my
admin duties on to a new hire.  I have not seen any training dates for
NBU 6.5 for Windows for the Baltimore/D.C. area.  Has anyone had NBU 7.0
for Windows training?  Is it similar enough to the 6.5 training that we
could send the new guy to 7.0 and he still get the training he needs to
run 6.5?  I have emailed Symantec about upgrading to 7.0, but have not
heard back and I just wanted to follow through on this possible option.

 

Thanks,

James McDonald

System Administrator

SAIC - IISBU

410-312-2232

mcdonal...@saic.com  

 

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