[Veritas-bu] PureDisk vs. DataDomain
PureDisk is def cheaper up front. However, dedupe rates and ingest performance are no where near what a DD box can do. Factor in also, if you did you "Older," servers, what is the 3,4, and 5 yr maintenance costs on that, for those servers? Not to mention the storage. IMO, while a higher up front cost with DD, the long term TCO would be lower. Sometimes cheaper and "good enough," are not enough. +-- |This was sent by mnab...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] PureDisk vs. DataDomain
And some just go to third party support companies and don't spend capital on backup solutions until they absolutely have to do so. For many organizations backups are deemed "unimportant" by the powers that be until the day they need to restore something. Having worked for various organizations I can say that some are very proactive in this area and others won't contemplate buying new backup technology until the old stuff dies completely or at least appears ready for imminent collapse. I doubt you know who "most" firms do it personally. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Sesar, Steven L. Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 12:13 PM To: Marelas, Peter; Ed Wilts; Fred M Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] PureDisk vs. DataDomain Most firms I'm aware of re-capitalize gear every 3-5 years, in order to avoid paying out-of-warrantee maintenance. === Steven L. Sesar Data Storage Architect UNIX Application Services R101 The MITRE Corporation 202 Burlington Road - MS K101 Bedford, MA 01730 tel: (781) 271-7702 fax: (781) 271-2600 mobile: (617) 519-8933 email: sse...@mitre.org === From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Marelas, Peter Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 5:40 PM To: Ed Wilts; Fred M Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] PureDisk vs. DataDomain I don't buy that rational. How often do you think you are going to turn over an appliance? It is more likely you will add to the pool of appliances. I know we have never turned over a VTL and only now we are replacing them with DD's. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2011 3:46 AM To: Fred M Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] PureDisk vs. DataDomain On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Fred M <77fre...@gmail.com> wrote: My employer is requesting I evaluate PureDisk and DataDomain for de-duplication. One of the selling advantages of the PureDisk appliances is that you only buy the de-dupe licenses once. All hardware eventually gets old. When that happens, you can buy another PureDisk appliance and re-use your existing de-dupe licenses. You could build your own appliance with off-the-shelf hardware and re-use the licenses. With a DD, when you upgrade the hardware, you're re-buying the software again since the prices are not separate. When you're doing the cost comparisons, factor in not only the initial purchase but also subsequent purchases. I despise per-TB licenses too (as somebody else pointed out), If I had a choice, I wouldn't buy them and would tend to avoid the PureDisk licensing model specifically for this reason. .../Ed Proud partner. Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Celerra backups
we have about 8 data movers with about 100TB of data. we're presently using netbackup and ndmp to back these up over fibre to LTO4 tape drives. i would like to back this up to a data domain box (10Gb nics) but am looking for ideas for the fastest and/or best way to get this data to data domain. i would appreciate any help. thanks. +-- |This was sent by xsp...@yahoo.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] PureDisk vs. DataDomain
Most firms I'm aware of re-capitalize gear every 3-5 years, in order to avoid paying out-of-warrantee maintenance. === Steven L. Sesar Data Storage Architect UNIX Application Services R101 The MITRE Corporation 202 Burlington Road - MS K101 Bedford, MA 01730 tel: (781) 271-7702 fax: (781) 271-2600 mobile: (617) 519-8933 email: sse...@mitre.org === From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Marelas, Peter Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 5:40 PM To: Ed Wilts; Fred M Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] PureDisk vs. DataDomain I don't buy that rational. How often do you think you are going to turn over an appliance? It is more likely you will add to the pool of appliances. I know we have never turned over a VTL and only now we are replacing them with DD's. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2011 3:46 AM To: Fred M Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] PureDisk vs. DataDomain On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Fred M <77fre...@gmail.com> wrote: My employer is requesting I evaluate PureDisk and DataDomain for de-duplication. One of the selling advantages of the PureDisk appliances is that you only buy the de-dupe licenses once. All hardware eventually gets old. When that happens, you can buy another PureDisk appliance and re-use your existing de-dupe licenses. You could build your own appliance with off-the-shelf hardware and re-use the licenses. With a DD, when you upgrade the hardware, you're re-buying the software again since the prices are not separate. When you're doing the cost comparisons, factor in not only the initial purchase but also subsequent purchases. I despise per-TB licenses too (as somebody else pointed out), If I had a choice, I wouldn't buy them and would tend to avoid the PureDisk licensing model specifically for this reason. .../Ed smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Client install download of 5.1 MP6 or 7
MP6 patch can be downloaded here: http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH49986 Base NBU Client software must be downloaded from FileConnect: https://fileconnect.symantec.com/ If you have a Unix master, you should be able to install the patch on the master (provided you have loaded the Linux client software) and then push to the client. Regards M. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of fredsharky Sent: 15 February 2011 09:50 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Client install download of 5.1 MP6 or 7 I need to find a place to download a copy of Netbackup Client 5.1MP6 or 7 We are in need of one ASAP. We having o load on a RH 5 box. Any help would greatly be appreciated and keep the snickering to a minimum please :D +-- |This was sent by fwa...@acxiom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
