Re: [Veritas-bu] understanding Storage Lifecycle Policies

2012-01-03 Thread William Brown
The SLP is where the retention period is set in this case, not the schedule.  
It can be a bit misleading because you still see the retention information in 
the schedule.

If you think of the SLP as a series of destinations each with it's own 
retention, that may help.

In your case if your retentions are tied to schedules, then you will need  a 
set of SLPs with those various retentions, and each schedule will use a 
different SLP.  The actual storage used in those SLPs might all be the same, 
e.g.:

SLP1: Monthly - Backup to Disk (retain xx days), duplicate to tape (retain 7 
years)
SLP2: Weekly - Backup to Disk (retain xx days), duplicate to tape (retain 1 
year)
SLP3: Daily Inc - Backup to Disk (retain xx days), duplicate to offsite disk 
(retain xx days)

These are not supposed to be useful SLPs, just an example.

William D L Brown

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] understanding Storage Lifecycle Policies

Thanks for the clarification. One question I still haven't found an answer to 
is that the SLP is applied at the policy level, yet there are multiple 
schedules within the existing policies. How does this work out? If I have 
dailies, weeklies and monthlies, all with different frequencies and retention 
periods, what happens when I apply an SLP to the policy?


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> From: "Sanders, Nate" 
>
> I'm reading through the SLP documentation but coming up a little
> short on understanding exactly how to accomplish a task. We have
> both LTO4 tape and a Data Domain 670. I would like to set a bunch of
> my data to go to the DD670 for 1 month, and then move to tape for an
> additional 2 months. This would give the data a full retention
> period of 3 months. But from what I am reading in the documentation,
> it sounds like it duplicate to tape as soon as it possible can, and
> then retain two copies at the same time. I do not wish this. I want
> only for the  data to exist on one device for 1 month, than the
> second device for an additional 2 months. How exactly does one
> achieve this with the SLP options in 7.0.1?

Your philosophy is not that of SLP designers.  Understandable, but
different.

You:  backup to disk, make a last-minute copy to tape.

NetBackup:  backup to disk, copy to tape as soon as backup is
complete, don't let original expire before copy is successful, thus
guaranteeing you'll have you image until every copy has been made and
has then expired according to your specifications.

If you truly want it to work your way--only one copy exists at a
time--the easiest way to automate that would be to use Vault,
selecting disk images that are one month old and making a tape copy
with a two-month retention.  Along, of course, with whatever
procedures you were already planning for making sure that the original
image's expiration is extended in case of tape issues.




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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Backups on DataDomain.

2012-01-03 Thread David Stanaway
You can do NDMP backups to OST via LAN transport to the media server. 
All you need to do is setup your ndmp credentials in NBU and on your NAS 
device. At least this worked for me with a VNX-File NDMP backup.


If you want to transport NDMP backups via SAN to the DATADOMAIN, then 
you would need the VTL license/HBA on the datadomain.



On 1/3/2012 2:28 PM, Anurag Sharma wrote:

Hi Team,

I have been given this task to move the NDMP backups from one master 
server to another.


The current master server backups up NDMP to CDL (Clariion Disk 
Libraries) typical environment via SAN.


 Now the new master server has no TL/VTL/CDL its just has Datadomain 
used as netbackup openstorage device.



Now my question is this .

Do I have to procure VTL license from DATADOMAIN in order to do NDMP 
backups ?


If I do NDMP backups to Datadomain open storage device will it have 
any performance implications ?


Another point that crossed my mind is this : openstorage backups would 
be via LAN not via SAN would that reduce the speed of ndmp backups to 
great levels ?



Anyone who has implement Netbackup NDMP backups on Datadomain please 
provide me with their valueable inputs.


Regards
Anurag


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[Veritas-bu] NDMP Backups on DataDomain.

2012-01-03 Thread Anurag Sharma

Hi Team,

I have been given this task to move the NDMP backups from one master server to 
another.

The current master server backups up NDMP to CDL (Clariion Disk Libraries) 
typical environment via SAN.

 Now the new master server has no TL/VTL/CDL its just has Datadomain used as 
netbackup openstorage device.


Now my question is this .

Do I have to procure VTL license from DATADOMAIN in order to do NDMP backups ?

If I do NDMP backups to Datadomain open storage device will it have any 
performance implications ?

Another point that crossed my mind is this : openstorage backups would be via 
LAN not via SAN would that reduce the speed of ndmp backups to great levels ?


Anyone who has implement Netbackup NDMP backups on Datadomain please provide me 
with their valueable inputs.

Regards
Anurag 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] understanding Storage Lifecycle Policies

2012-01-03 Thread Sanders, Nate
Thanks for the clarification. One question I still haven't found an answer to 
is that the SLP is applied at the policy level, yet there are multiple 
schedules within the existing policies. How does this work out? If I have 
dailies, weeklies and monthlies, all with different frequencies and retention 
periods, what happens when I apply an SLP to the policy?
 

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To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Cc: Sanders, Nate (DS)
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] understanding Storage Lifecycle Policies

> From: "Sanders, Nate" 
> 
> I'm reading through the SLP documentation but coming up a little
> short on understanding exactly how to accomplish a task. We have
> both LTO4 tape and a Data Domain 670. I would like to set a bunch of
> my data to go to the DD670 for 1 month, and then move to tape for an
> additional 2 months. This would give the data a full retention
> period of 3 months. But from what I am reading in the documentation,
> it sounds like it duplicate to tape as soon as it possible can, and
> then retain two copies at the same time. I do not wish this. I want
> only for the  data to exist on one device for 1 month, than the
> second device for an additional 2 months. How exactly does one
> achieve this with the SLP options in 7.0.1?

Your philosophy is not that of SLP designers.  Understandable, but
different.

You:  backup to disk, make a last-minute copy to tape.

NetBackup:  backup to disk, copy to tape as soon as backup is
complete, don't let original expire before copy is successful, thus
guaranteeing you'll have you image until every copy has been made and
has then expired according to your specifications.

If you truly want it to work your way--only one copy exists at a
time--the easiest way to automate that would be to use Vault,
selecting disk images that are one month old and making a tape copy
with a two-month retention.  Along, of course, with whatever
procedures you were already planning for making sure that the original
image's expiration is extended in case of tape issues.




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[Veritas-bu] understanding Storage Lifecycle Policies

2012-01-03 Thread rsavage
We use SLP for our backups and copies. We create our original backups to a 
dd670 (2 weeks) and then spin off a copy to our remote dd670 with a different 
retention period (5 weeks). 

The SLP policy allows you to create a second copy to a different destintation 
right after your backups has completed. That way you have two copies of your 
data incase your primary site becomes disabled. If you are wanting to only have 
it on one device at a time, then the VAULT portion of Symantec will allow you 
to go back a certain amount of time and create a copy on the other destination.

You could look into a ddArchiver from data domain. this will move data from an 
active tier to an archive tier within the same dedupe appliance and your data 
is on a less expensive tier of disk for the longer term.

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[Veritas-bu] VBR and OpsCenter

2012-01-03 Thread Zaka777
Hi we have successfully migrated our VBR database over to Opscenter, saying 
that we did loose some reports.

its pretty simple actually , when you do a new Opscenter install you can do a 
custom install, it will then ask you for a VBR database. in our case we pointed 
it to a backup we had made. 

from there on the install should be pretty straight forward. you will not see 
your data appear straight away as it will be importing them after the install. 
this can take days. 


Regs

Zaka

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