[Veritas-bu] NetBackup NDMP backups need to restore to another Filer non-celera

2013-09-05 Thread Venkatraghavan Marisamy

Hi All,

We had EMC Celera NAS Filers backups taken by NetBackup NDMP Agent.

However these Filers were decommissioned .

I remember a limitation that if NDMP backups, backed through a particular
filer can be restored only to a filer of similar make and model . It cannot
be redirected to another filer (Example Ontap) or any OS filesystem.


Is there any way data from these tapes be restored/redirected to any other
location.

Regards
Venkatraghavan M



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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup NDMP backups need to restore to another Filer non-celera

2013-09-05 Thread Lightner, Jeff
Couldn't you use bpduplicate to duplicate the backup using the original device 
as the source and the new one as the target?

Our vaulting regularly duplicates deduplication (Data Domain/Quantum DXi) 
appliance backups to tape to be sent offsite.  (Yes I know you can have offsite 
dedupe appliance and avoid this but we don't have those.)





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Probably not but you can ask EMC.  We had a similar issue and still have a 
Celerra without support, just to allow restores until the backups expire.

NDMP uses the native 'dump' capability of the appliance, which is proprietary.  
It *is* possible to tell it to use 'tar' but I guess that is too late.

It's possible the Celerra does use some format that can be read, but the 
problem often is that it may be storing both Windows and UNIX style ACLs at the 
same time, which would require it to do something unusual.

William Brown
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non-celera


Hi All,

We had EMC Celera NAS Filers backups taken by NetBackup NDMP Agent.

However these Filers were decommissioned .

I remember a limitation that if NDMP backups, backed through a particular filer 
can be restored only to a filer of similar make and model . It cannot be 
redirected to another filer (Example Ontap) or any OS filesystem.


Is there any way data from these tapes be restored/redirected to any other 
location.

Regards
Venkatraghavan M



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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup NDMP backups need to restore to another Filer non-celera

2013-09-05 Thread William Brown
Probably not but you can ask EMC.  We had a similar issue and still have a 
Celerra without support, just to allow restores until the backups expire.

NDMP uses the native 'dump' capability of the appliance, which is proprietary.  
It *is* possible to tell it to use 'tar' but I guess that is too late.

It's possible the Celerra does use some format that can be read, but the 
problem often is that it may be storing both Windows and UNIX style ACLs at the 
same time, which would require it to do something unusual.

William Brown
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup NDMP backups need to restore to another Filer 
non-celera


Hi All,

We had EMC Celera NAS Filers backups taken by NetBackup NDMP Agent.

However these Filers were decommissioned .

I remember a limitation that if NDMP backups, backed through a particular filer 
can be restored only to a filer of similar make and model . It cannot be 
redirected to another filer (Example Ontap) or any OS filesystem.


Is there any way data from these tapes be restored/redirected to any other 
location.

Regards
Venkatraghavan M



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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup NDMP backups need to restore to another Filer non-celera

2013-09-05 Thread Christopher Costa
No because it gets duplicated in the orginal NDMP format.

On Thursday, September 5, 2013, Lightner, Jeff wrote:

 Couldn't you use bpduplicate to duplicate the backup using the original
 device as the source and the new one as the target?

 Our vaulting regularly duplicates deduplication (Data Domain/Quantum DXi)
 appliance backups to tape to be sent offsite.  (Yes I know you can have
 offsite dedupe appliance and avoid this but we don't have those.)





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 Probably not but you can ask EMC.  We had a similar issue and still have a
 Celerra without support, just to allow restores until the backups expire.

 NDMP uses the native 'dump' capability of the appliance, which is
 proprietary.  It *is* possible to tell it to use 'tar' but I guess that is
 too late.

 It's possible the Celerra does use some format that can be read, but the
 problem often is that it may be storing both Windows and UNIX style ACLs at
 the same time, which would require it to do something unusual.

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 Hi All,

 We had EMC Celera NAS Filers backups taken by NetBackup NDMP Agent.

 However these Filers were decommissioned .

 I remember a limitation that if NDMP backups, backed through a particular
 filer can be restored only to a filer of similar make and model . It cannot
 be redirected to another filer (Example Ontap) or any OS filesystem.


 Is there any way data from these tapes be restored/redirected to any other
 location.

 Regards
 Venkatraghavan M



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