Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP directory exclusions

[Adams, Dwayne]

FYI...

 

You can't use a path.  You can only use a file or directory name for
exclusion.  I have added _NoBackup to end of the folder name.  That way
everyone knows that a file will not be backed up if they put it in the
folder.  This should also keep the name unique. Anything else in the
volume with the exclusion name will not be backed up.

 

SET EXCLUDE = A_NoBAckup

/vol/vol1

 

 

Solution ID: kb6811 

Can files and / or directories be excluded from a backup?

 


Symptoms

Which backup software supports the include or exclude directories
feature while backing up filer?

Can files or directories be excluded from a backup?


Solution

Currently using the filer's dump command files and qtrees may be
excluded but directories cannot be excluded. For 3rd party backup
applications, contact the 3rd party vendor to determine if files and
directories can be excluded during a backup. 

For example, the filer's dump command allows files to be excluded by
using the capital X option. You can not give a full path to a file that
you want to be excluded in the exlucde list. You must give a simple
string. For example, the best you can do is this:

dump 0fX nrst0a messages /vol/vol0/etc

This will exclude any files or directories named "messages" underneath
the /voll/vol0/etc directory. There is no way to exclude a full path.
Refer to the dump man page for additional information.

Last updated: 17 APR 2003


Environment

 





NetApp filer

NearStore appliance

Data ONTAP

 

 

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Adams,
Dwayne
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:40 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP directory exclusions

 

Hello,

 

Has anyone had any success with excluding sub directories of paths with

NetApp NDMP backups?

 

I.E

 

SET EXCLUDE = A/B 

/vol/vol1

 

Thanks

 

Dwayne Adams

 

Document ID: 235246 

http://support.veritas.com/docs/235246 E-Mail this document to a

colleague 

How to exclude files and directories from NDMP backups 





Details:

To exclude files on NetApp when using NetBackup with Network Data

Management Protocol (NDMP), use an entry in the file list that sets the

EXCLUDE NDMP environmental variable. 

 

For example:  To exclude a directory named /vol/vol1/A, but to dump the

rest of the volume, create a NetBackup class file list which would look

like this: 

SET EXCLUDE = A 

/vol/vol1 

 

To exclude multiple files or directories use commas to delimit the

field: 

SET EXCLUDE = A,B,C 

/vol/vol1 

 

The rules are stated as being the same as they are for native dump

commands. 

The exclude list is specified relative to the dump path. If a directory

name or file name contains a space, enclose the string in quotes: 

SET EXCLUDE = 'file with space in name' 

/vol/volx 

 

Wild cards are not supported so excluding specific file extensions is

not supported.  

 

Refer to the Ontap manuals for DUMP for more information. 

 

 

 

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[Veritas-bu] NDMP directory exclusions

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

Has anyone had any success with excluding sub directories of paths with
NetApp NDMP backups?

I.E

SET EXCLUDE = A/B 
/vol/vol1

Thanks

Dwayne Adams

Document ID: 235246 
http://support.veritas.com/docs/235246 E-Mail this document to a
colleague 
How to exclude files and directories from NDMP backups 


Details:
To exclude files on NetApp when using NetBackup with Network Data
Management Protocol (NDMP), use an entry in the file list that sets the
EXCLUDE NDMP environmental variable. 

For example:  To exclude a directory named /vol/vol1/A, but to dump the
rest of the volume, create a NetBackup class file list which would look
like this: 
SET EXCLUDE = A 
/vol/vol1 

To exclude multiple files or directories use commas to delimit the
field: 
SET EXCLUDE = A,B,C 
/vol/vol1 

The rules are stated as being the same as they are for native dump
commands. 
The exclude list is specified relative to the dump path. If a directory
name or file name contains a space, enclose the string in quotes: 
SET EXCLUDE = 'file with space in name' 
/vol/volx 

Wild cards are not supported so excluding specific file extensions is
not supported.  

Refer to the Ontap manuals for DUMP for more information. 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

[Adams, Dwayne]

FYI...  I have heard that there is an Engineering Binary that your can
request from Symantec to give you more encrypted pools on 6.5.x.  

 

Dwayne Adams

 



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 12:27 PM
To: abhishek.dhin...@in.ibm.com
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 

You can have 1 key per volume pool.

 

So on  6.5.5 you can encrypt 2 pools.

 

You can have different encryption keys for each pool.  So I have 2
different key tags depending on which pool the tape belongs to.

 

In 7.0 you can have 20 pools, but again you can only have 1 active key
per volume pool.

 

Now if you want to change your key, you have those "levels" of a key.

You take current key from active to inactive, and create a new active
key for that pool.

An inactive key can be used to decrypt a tape.  So if you have a new
active key you can still read the tapes made with the old key.

Where a deprecated key will stay in the database if you want it, but you
cannot use it to write or read a tape.

 

 

You said: "in case if we don't have encryption feature enabled at
hardware on another site, is there any way to perform the restore. 
"

 

No - that is the whole point of encryption.

You must have application managed encryption turned on at the other
library ( this cost me nothing on my IBM TS3310)

And YOU MUST have the SAME keys on the database at the other site.  

TEST TEST TEST  - before you start doing all your tapes verify that you
can tape a tape made here and be able to restore it at your other site.
If you cannot read an encrypted tape at your DR site - then what is the
point.  You want to lock others out of reading your tapes, not yourself.

 

The way to verify is when looking at your tapes and you see the
encrypted key tag on the image.

Your kms database at your other site must have an exact matching key
tag.

 

As kms is just a bunch of file You just copy that dir over to the
other server.

 

The only issue right now for me is 2 volume pools.  I wanted 3, and had
to put two groups of tapes into the same pool.

When I upgrade to 7.x I will get to break that group out again and have
3 encrypted volume pools.

 

From: Abhishek Dhingra1 [mailto:abhishek.dhin...@in.ibm.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 12:41 PM
To: Judy Hinchcliffe
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Fw: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 


Thanks for the reply. 

Today i tried configuring the KMS on my master server(running on AIX).
It worked perfectly fine, i took help from veritas support and according
to them we can only keep one key in the key database, it will always use
the same key for encrypting the data. Every time we need to change the
encryption key , we need to define the new key and deactivate the one
that is activated. 

Have you tried configuring more then one key at the same time. 

Moreover doing restore on another site , will require encryption license
to be applied on the tape library at another site, in case if we dont
have encryption feature enabled at hardware on another site, is there
any way to perform the restore. 

Rgds
A D
Email : abhishek.dhin...@in.ibm.com

- Forwarded by Abhishek Dhingra1/India/IBM on 06/15/2010 11:05 PM
- 

 

06/15/2010 10:51 PM 

To

Abhishek Dhingra1/India/i...@ibmin,  

cc

 

Subject

RE: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 

 

 




Yes, I recently started. 
  
It is one chapter in the Security and Encryption book, look for the book
for the version you are running.  In the 6.5 it is chapter 6. 
  
  
I have aix media servers so I cannot do MESO 
  
If I wanted to hardware encryption using my IBM library I would have to
PAY IBM a lot of money Plus get the Tivoli key management system. 
  
Kms comes with NB. 
I just went to my library and turned on "Application Managed Encryption"

Then I setup the kms database and made my volume pools 
NOTE:  in 6.5.5 you can only use 2 encrypted volume pools.  In 7.0 you
can use 20. 
  
So now I am doing hardware encryption - that is where all the work is
done on the tape drive - it also does my compression  so no extra over
head on my master or media. 
  
Read the chapter carefully - 
Make sure that the kms dir is not put on your catalog tape, and do no
encrypt the catalog tape ( that's like locking your keys in the car) 
I have two sites. 
I made my kms on one master, then just copied the database to the other
master, this way I know all encrypted key tags match and I can read
encrypted tapes at both sites. 
  
Once reading the chapter I saw how easy it really was. 
  
Just make sure you document you password strings and keep them in a
secure place - not in just any file on disk where someone else could
find them. 
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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Abhish

Re: [Veritas-bu] Capacity planning

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

Does anyone have a template for a Netbackup capacity planning report?  I
need to give some type of Capacity planning report from scratch without
spending any money. Please save my soul :(

Thanks

Dwayne Adams


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Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

[Adams, Dwayne]

Final solution:

 

The solution was to update the firmware on the library and drives,
remove all the drive entries in NBU, uninstall/reinstall the tape and
changer drivers then rescan for devices in NBU.  This was a combination
of suggestions from DELL and Symantec.

 

Dwayne Adams

 



From: Adams, Dwayne 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:12 AM
To: Adams, Dwayne; Chapman, Scott; Sedeora, Surjit S Mr CTR USA USA
Cc: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 

Update:

 

I have talked to both Symantec and Dell.  Still trying to figure it
out...  Check out the difference in the information returned from manage
drive attributes Not sure why yet  It may be that the output is
different because fl1 suggests a LTO3 tape that does not support
encryption.  The issue seems to be that when LTO4 tapes are mounted they
are posted to bptm as LTO3 tapes.  The library mount logs show as
LTO4  Firmware and drivers are up to date.  NO_SIXTEEN_BYTE_CDB was
missing on the non-working media server and I added it but still no
go

 

Not working

 

08:43:35.573 [4732.1396] <2> check_touch_file: Found
D:\VERITAS\Volmgr\database\NO_SIXTEEN_BYTE_CDB from (roblib.c.6515)

08:43:35.573 [4732.1396] <2> manage_drive_attributes: report_attr, fl1
0x00010849, fl2 0x

08:43:35.573 [4732.1396] <2> send_MDS_msg: MEDIADB 1 51946 001343
4001359 *NULL* 6 1270222961 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 19 0 17 1024 0 0 0

08:43:35.620 [4732.1396] <2> vnet_vnetd_service_socket:
vnet_vnetd.c.2046: VN_REQUEST_SERVICE_SOCKET: 6 0x0006

08:43:35.620 [4732.1396] <2> vnet_vnetd_service_socket:
vnet_vnetd.c.2060: service: bpdbm

 

Working

 

06:00:55.819 [3840.3864] <2> io_open: SCSI RESERVE

06:00:55.835 [3840.3864] <2> check_touch_file: Found
D:\VERITAS\Volmgr\database\NO_SIXTEEN_BYTE_CDB from (roblib.c.6515)

06:00:55.835 [3840.3864] <2> manage_drive_attributes: report_attr, fl1
0x00030849, fl2 0x

06:00:55.835 [3840.3864] <2> manage_drive_attributes: encryption status:
nexus scope 1, key scope 1

06:00:55.835 [3840.3864] <2> manage_drive_attributes: encryp mode 0x0,
decryp mode 0x0, algorithm index 1, key instance 1459

06:00:55.835 [3840.3864] <2> io_open: file
D:\VERITAS\NetBackup\db\media\tpreq\drive_IBM.ULTRIUM-TD4.004
successfully opened (mode 2)

06:00:55.835 [3840.3864] <2> write_backup: media id 001137 mounted on
drive index 2, drivepath {2,0,2,0}, drivename IBM.ULTRIUM-TD4.004, copy
1

06:00:55.835 [3840.3864] <4> db_error_add_to_file: VBRT 1 3840 1 1
IBM.ULTRIUM-TD4.004 001137 0 1 0 0 0

 

Library mount logs...

 

-- Mount History -- : 

 

 

 #NO Thread Count Cart. Manu   Cart. S/NVolser Lib   Volser Host
Cart. GEN Code Level   DS-WRT DS-RD  

 1   5518 TDK  H9XQL8I414   001342L4
Gen 4 85 1d 38 1  0

 2   5510 FUJIFILM 079D106852000492L3
Gen 3 85 1d 38 40987  94

 3   5511 FUJIFILM 079D106852000492L3
Gen 3 85 1d 38 83 81

 4   5512 FUJIFILM 079D106852000492L3
Gen 3 85 1d 38 27 93

 5   5513 FUJIFILM 0796112369000446L3
Gen 3 85 1d 38 11774

 6   5514 FUJIFILM 0796112369000446L3
Gen 3 85 1d 38 4  68

 7   5515 FUJIFILM 073Q10812549L3
Gen 3 85 1d 38 30 73

 8   5516 TDK  H9XQL8E086   001343L4
Gen 4 85 1d 38 1  0

 9   5517 TDK  H9XQL8E086   001343L4
Gen 4 85 1d 38 0  1

 

Dwayne Adams



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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU and BMR - QLogic SAN driver incompatibilities

[Adams, Dwayne]

Ed,

 

I asked Symantec about this and was told the issue will be resolved in
NBU 7 with the new version of Windows PE 2.1. The new version of PE will
support the newer QLogic drivers.

 

Dwayne Adams

 



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Scheef
Jr, Ed E.
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:18 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU and BMR - QLogic SAN driver incompatabilities

 

Been getting this error message for a while now in the BMR info
collection phase of backups for servers running QLOGIC SAN drivers:

 

  "Received BMR error: The driver 'QLogic Fibre Channel Adapter', of
Version '9.1.8.17' is not compatible with WindowsPE. You may need

 to create a driver package using an earlier version of the driver
that was WindowsPE compatible. (1)"

 

Other than back-leveling the QLOGIC drives on SAN-connected servers, has
anyone found a way around this error so the QLOGIC drivers

 get installed along with the all the other drivers during the BMR
recovery???

 

   And just as an FYI: We have so far been unable to find a way to
reconnect "data-loaded" SAN LUNS to BMR recovered servers without

   being forced to format the LUNS at reconnect time. That is another
interesting situation, after the QLOGIC drivers have been manually

   re-installed following the BMR recovery.

 

We are running NBU 6.5.5. on Windows 64-bit Master Servers.

 

Thanks Much,

Ed Scheef

Tampa Electric Company (TECO Energy, Inc.)

  

 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] convert NDMP tapes

[Adams, Dwayne]

Thanks Ed.  Has anyone ever used one of these services for this type of
task?

 

Dwayne Adams

 



From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:48 AM
To: Adams, Dwayne
Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] convert NDMP tapes

 

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Adams, Dwayne 
wrote:

Has anyone ever heard of a service that someone offers to convert NDMP
tapes to another format?  We are looking at getting rid of some old NDMP
Filers (OnStor) that still have tapes with 7 year retention data on
them.  My options are to keep a legacy restore environment or restore
the data and then backup using CIFS.  I also need to encrypt the data in
whatever process I use.  My manger says he has heard of a service that
will do the conversion for you.  Has anyone heard of this? Please
advise.


One of the problems is that NDMP isn't really a standard for tapes -
it's a protocol, not a tape format.  You can't even restore an NDMP
backup created by a NetApp to a Celerra, for example. 

There are a lot of tape/data conversions out there.  This is the first
one that my goodsearch returned:  http://www.dataconversion.com/.  I'd
be surprised if companies like Ontrack coiuldn't do it as well.  Use the
search engines :-)

Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE 
ewi...@ewilts.org

Linkedin <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts> 

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] convert NDMP tapes

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

Has anyone ever heard of a service that someone offers to convert NDMP
tapes to another format?  We are looking at getting rid of some old NDMP
Filers (OnStor) that still have tapes with 7 year retention data on
them.  My options are to keep a legacy restore environment or restore
the data and then backup using CIFS.  I also need to encrypt the data in
whatever process I use.  My manger says he has heard of a service that
will do the conversion for you.  Has anyone heard of this? Please
advise.

 

Thanks

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

[Adams, Dwayne]

Update:

 

I have talked to both Symantec and Dell.  Still trying to figure it
out...  Check out the difference in the information returned from manage
drive attributes Not sure why yet  It may be that the output is
different because fl1 suggests a LTO3 tape that does not support
encryption.  The issue seems to be that when LTO4 tapes are mounted they
are posted to bptm as LTO3 tapes.  The library mount logs show as
LTO4  Firmware and drivers are up to date.  NO_SIXTEEN_BYTE_CDB was
missing on the non-working media server and I added it but still no
go

 

Not working

 

08:43:35.573 [4732.1396] <2> check_touch_file: Found
D:\VERITAS\Volmgr\database\NO_SIXTEEN_BYTE_CDB from (roblib.c.6515)

08:43:35.573 [4732.1396] <2> manage_drive_attributes: report_attr, fl1
0x00010849, fl2 0x

08:43:35.573 [4732.1396] <2> send_MDS_msg: MEDIADB 1 51946 001343
4001359 *NULL* 6 1270222961 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 19 0 17 1024 0 0 0

08:43:35.620 [4732.1396] <2> vnet_vnetd_service_socket:
vnet_vnetd.c.2046: VN_REQUEST_SERVICE_SOCKET: 6 0x0006

08:43:35.620 [4732.1396] <2> vnet_vnetd_service_socket:
vnet_vnetd.c.2060: service: bpdbm

 

Working

 

06:00:55.819 [3840.3864] <2> io_open: SCSI RESERVE

06:00:55.835 [3840.3864] <2> check_touch_file: Found
D:\VERITAS\Volmgr\database\NO_SIXTEEN_BYTE_CDB from (roblib.c.6515)

06:00:55.835 [3840.3864] <2> manage_drive_attributes: report_attr, fl1
0x00030849, fl2 0x

06:00:55.835 [3840.3864] <2> manage_drive_attributes: encryption status:
nexus scope 1, key scope 1

06:00:55.835 [3840.3864] <2> manage_drive_attributes: encryp mode 0x0,
decryp mode 0x0, algorithm index 1, key instance 1459

06:00:55.835 [3840.3864] <2> io_open: file
D:\VERITAS\NetBackup\db\media\tpreq\drive_IBM.ULTRIUM-TD4.004
successfully opened (mode 2)

06:00:55.835 [3840.3864] <2> write_backup: media id 001137 mounted on
drive index 2, drivepath {2,0,2,0}, drivename IBM.ULTRIUM-TD4.004, copy
1

06:00:55.835 [3840.3864] <4> db_error_add_to_file: VBRT 1 3840 1 1
IBM.ULTRIUM-TD4.004 001137 0 1 0 0 0

 

Library mount logs...

 

-- Mount History -- : 

 

 

 #NO Thread Count Cart. Manu   Cart. S/NVolser Lib   Volser Host
Cart. GEN Code Level   DS-WRT DS-RD  

 1   5518 TDK  H9XQL8I414   001342L4
Gen 4 85 1d 38 1  0

 2   5510 FUJIFILM 079D106852000492L3
Gen 3 85 1d 38 40987  94

 3   5511 FUJIFILM 079D106852000492L3
Gen 3 85 1d 38 83 81

 4   5512 FUJIFILM 079D106852000492L3
Gen 3 85 1d 38 27 93

 5   5513 FUJIFILM 0796112369000446L3
Gen 3 85 1d 38 11774

 6   5514 FUJIFILM 0796112369000446L3
Gen 3 85 1d 38 4  68

 7   5515 FUJIFILM 073Q10812549L3
Gen 3 85 1d 38 30 73

 8   5516 TDK  H9XQL8E086   001343L4
Gen 4 85 1d 38 1  0

 9   5517 TDK  H9XQL8E086   001343L4
Gen 4 85 1d 38 0  1

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

[Adams, Dwayne]

Scott,

 

1343 is a LTO4 tape.  I just made the change and tested.  I set one of
my LTO4 drives to HCART, created a new HCART Storage Unit, changed the
policy to use that storage unit, deleted the tapes and ran an inventory
as HCART to the Scratch Pool.  Same outcome.

 

4/1/2010 10:11:01 AM - estimated 0 kbytes needed

4/1/2010 10:11:05 AM - started process bpbrm (3608)

4/1/2010 10:11:17 AM - connecting

4/1/2010 10:11:18 AM - connected; connect time: 00:00:01

4/1/2010 10:11:19 AM - mounting 001343

4/1/2010 10:11:54 AM - Error bptm(pid=4024) FREEZING media id 001343,
Encryption unavailable for an ENCR pool   

4/1/2010 10:11:55 AM - Warning bptm(pid=4024) media id 001343 load
operation reported an error 

4/1/2010 10:11:55 AM - current media 001343 complete, requesting next
resource Any

4/1/2010 10:12:32 AM - granted resource 001342

4/1/2010 10:12:32 AM - granted resource IBM.ULTRIUM-TD4.001

4/1/2010 10:12:32 AM - granted resource som012-hcart-robot-tld-1

4/1/2010 10:12:34 AM - mounting 001342

4/1/2010 10:13:17 AM - Error bptm(pid=4024) FREEZING media id 001342,
Encryption unavailable for an ENCR pool   

4/1/2010 10:13:18 AM - Warning bptm(pid=4024) media id 001342 load
operation reported an error 

4/1/2010 10:13:18 AM - current media 001342 complete, requesting next
resource Any

4/1/2010 10:13:58 AM - end writing

unable to allocate new media for backup, storage unit has none
available(96)

termination requested by administrator(150)

 

Dwayne

 



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To: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com; Adams, Dwayne;
VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 

I can confirm that this is not the case.

 

I think your problem is that both of your media types (LTO3 and LTO4)
are set to HCART3... you need to have that separated out, and you need
to have your drives configured the same.  If your LTO3 media is HCART3
and your LTO4 media are HCART, then you need your LTO3 drives to be
HCART3 and your LTO4 drives to be HCART.

 

Is your 001343 media an LTO4 cartridge?  And was it mounted into an LTO4
drive when you tried to write the encrypted backup?

 

Scott Chapman

Senior Technical Specialist

Storage and Database Administration

ICBC - Victoria

Ph:  250.414.7650  Cell:  250.213.9295

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 9:55 AM
To: adam...@medsch.ucsf.edu; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 

I seem to remember reading in the book the type HAD to be HCART=lto4
(not sure if I read that somewhere or it just stuck in my head)

 

Try deleting one of your tapes, and get it added back in as an HCART -
your lto4 tape drives should already be HCART ( if not you will have to
change them as well)

Then give it a try - I really think that is the problem.

 

From: Adams, Dwayne [mailto:adam...@medsch.ucsf.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:33 AM
To: Judy Hinchcliffe; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 

Judy,

 

I have a call in to Symantec now.  My environment already has LTO3 and
LTO4 media set to HCART3 (not my doing).  I am going to change the tapes
to HCART as part of this project.  I wonder if the fl1 0x00010049 is
reported by the drive or Netbackup is providing that information to the
drive?  I called Dell and they were not much help. Once I said the KMS,
I got the "we only support our solution line".  I am getting my "ducks
in a row" so I can call Dell back if it is not a NBU config issue.  My
libraries are both setup for application managed encryption.  Wish me
luck.  :-)

 

Thanks

 

Dwayne Adams

 



From: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
[mailto:judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 9:22 AM
To: Adams, Dwayne; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 

I have not had that problem.

My thought is what media type is 001343  - it has to be hcart (so nb
knows it is a lto4)

As you have both types in your library I would check that the media
type/barcode say it is a lto4 as well has physically check that it is an
lto4.

 

I have a master/media, a media, and 2 SAN Media all encrypting just
fine.

 

 

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Adams,
Dwayne
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:16 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 

Hello,

 

Has anyone run into this issue with KMS?  I have setup KMS on my Master
Server and can encrypt data to the pools from my Master.  I get the
following error and the tape is frozen when I try to run an encrypted
job from my Media Server.  The bp

Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

[Adams, Dwayne]

Judy,

 

I will let you know what I find out.

 

Thanks

 

Dwayne Adams

 



From: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
[mailto:judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 9:55 AM
To: Adams, Dwayne; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 

I seem to remember reading in the book the type HAD to be HCART=lto4
(not sure if I read that somewhere or it just stuck in my head)

 

Try deleting one of your tapes, and get it added back in as an HCART -
your lto4 tape drives should already be HCART ( if not you will have to
change them as well)

Then give it a try - I really think that is the problem.

 

From: Adams, Dwayne [mailto:adam...@medsch.ucsf.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:33 AM
To: Judy Hinchcliffe; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 

Judy,

 

I have a call in to Symantec now.  My environment already has LTO3 and
LTO4 media set to HCART3 (not my doing).  I am going to change the tapes
to HCART as part of this project.  I wonder if the fl1 0x00010049 is
reported by the drive or Netbackup is providing that information to the
drive?  I called Dell and they were not much help. Once I said the KMS,
I got the "we only support our solution line".  I am getting my "ducks
in a row" so I can call Dell back if it is not a NBU config issue.  My
libraries are both setup for application managed encryption.  Wish me
luck.  :-)

 

Thanks

 

Dwayne Adams

 



From: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
[mailto:judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 9:22 AM
To: Adams, Dwayne; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 

I have not had that problem.

My thought is what media type is 001343  - it has to be hcart (so nb
knows it is a lto4)

As you have both types in your library I would check that the media
type/barcode say it is a lto4 as well has physically check that it is an
lto4.

 

I have a master/media, a media, and 2 SAN Media all encrypting just
fine.

 

 

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Adams,
Dwayne
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:16 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 

Hello,

 

Has anyone run into this issue with KMS?  I have setup KMS on my Master
Server and can encrypt data to the pools from my Master.  I get the
following error and the tape is frozen when I try to run an encrypted
job from my Media Server.  The bptm log says the tape is a LTO3 tape but
the tape is definitely a LTO4 tape.  I have read the Technote on this
but that is all I have found. 

 

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/321244.htm

 

 

Thanks

 

Dwayne Adams

 

Encryption unavailable for an ENCR pool

 

4/1/2010 8:41:25 AM - started process bpbrm (1216)

4/1/2010 8:41:36 AM - connecting

4/1/2010 8:41:36 AM - connected; connect time: 00:00:00

4/1/2010 8:41:37 AM - mounting 001343

4/1/2010 8:42:23 AM - Error bptm(pid=3972) FREEZING media id 001343,
Encryption unavailable for an ENCR pool   

4/1/2010 8:42:24 AM - Warning bptm(pid=3972) media id 001343 load
operation reported an error 

4/1/2010 8:42:24 AM - current media 001343 complete, requesting next
resource Any

4/1/2010 8:42:54 AM - end writing

termination requested by administrator(150)

 

Netbackup 6.5.4

 

Library 1 Media Server

 

Dell ML6000 series

2 LTO4 drives and 4 LTO3 drives (Downed for testing encryption with LTO4
tapes)

 

manage_drive_attributes: report_attr, fl1 0x00010049, fl2 0x0004

 

Library 2 Master\Media

Dell ML6000 series

6 LTO4 drives

 

manage_drive_attributes: report_attr, fl1 0x00030849, fl2 0x

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

[Adams, Dwayne]

A side note.  Not sure if this make a difference.  There is a firewall
between my master\media and media server.  All the standard ports have
been configured and all backups and restores work fine today.

 

Dwayne

 



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Adams,
Dwayne
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 9:33 AM
To: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 

Judy,

 

I have a call in to Symantec now.  My environment already has LTO3 and
LTO4 media set to HCART3 (not my doing).  I am going to change the tapes
to HCART as part of this project.  I wonder if the fl1 0x00010049 is
reported by the drive or Netbackup is providing that information to the
drive?  I called Dell and they were not much help. Once I said the KMS,
I got the "we only support our solution line".  I am getting my "ducks
in a row" so I can call Dell back if it is not a NBU config issue.  My
libraries are both setup for application managed encryption.  Wish me
luck.  :-)

 

Thanks

 

Dwayne Adams

 



From: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
[mailto:judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 9:22 AM
To: Adams, Dwayne; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 

I have not had that problem.

My thought is what media type is 001343  - it has to be hcart (so nb
knows it is a lto4)

As you have both types in your library I would check that the media
type/barcode say it is a lto4 as well has physically check that it is an
lto4.

 

I have a master/media, a media, and 2 SAN Media all encrypting just
fine.

 

 

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Adams,
Dwayne
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:16 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 

Hello,

 

Has anyone run into this issue with KMS?  I have setup KMS on my Master
Server and can encrypt data to the pools from my Master.  I get the
following error and the tape is frozen when I try to run an encrypted
job from my Media Server.  The bptm log says the tape is a LTO3 tape but
the tape is definitely a LTO4 tape.  I have read the Technote on this
but that is all I have found. 

 

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/321244.htm

 

 

Thanks

 

Dwayne Adams

 

Encryption unavailable for an ENCR pool

 

4/1/2010 8:41:25 AM - started process bpbrm (1216)

4/1/2010 8:41:36 AM - connecting

4/1/2010 8:41:36 AM - connected; connect time: 00:00:00

4/1/2010 8:41:37 AM - mounting 001343

4/1/2010 8:42:23 AM - Error bptm(pid=3972) FREEZING media id 001343,
Encryption unavailable for an ENCR pool   

4/1/2010 8:42:24 AM - Warning bptm(pid=3972) media id 001343 load
operation reported an error 

4/1/2010 8:42:24 AM - current media 001343 complete, requesting next
resource Any

4/1/2010 8:42:54 AM - end writing

termination requested by administrator(150)

 

Netbackup 6.5.4

 

Library 1 Media Server

 

Dell ML6000 series

2 LTO4 drives and 4 LTO3 drives (Downed for testing encryption with LTO4
tapes)

 

manage_drive_attributes: report_attr, fl1 0x00010049, fl2 0x0004

 

Library 2 Master\Media

Dell ML6000 series

6 LTO4 drives

 

manage_drive_attributes: report_attr, fl1 0x00030849, fl2 0x

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

[Adams, Dwayne]

Judy,

 

I have a call in to Symantec now.  My environment already has LTO3 and
LTO4 media set to HCART3 (not my doing).  I am going to change the tapes
to HCART as part of this project.  I wonder if the fl1 0x00010049 is
reported by the drive or Netbackup is providing that information to the
drive?  I called Dell and they were not much help. Once I said the KMS,
I got the "we only support our solution line".  I am getting my "ducks
in a row" so I can call Dell back if it is not a NBU config issue.  My
libraries are both setup for application managed encryption.  Wish me
luck.  :-)

 

Thanks

 

Dwayne Adams

 



From: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
[mailto:judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 9:22 AM
To: Adams, Dwayne; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 

I have not had that problem.

My thought is what media type is 001343  - it has to be hcart (so nb
knows it is a lto4)

As you have both types in your library I would check that the media
type/barcode say it is a lto4 as well has physically check that it is an
lto4.

 

I have a master/media, a media, and 2 SAN Media all encrypting just
fine.

 

 

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Adams,
Dwayne
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:16 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

 

Hello,

 

Has anyone run into this issue with KMS?  I have setup KMS on my Master
Server and can encrypt data to the pools from my Master.  I get the
following error and the tape is frozen when I try to run an encrypted
job from my Media Server.  The bptm log says the tape is a LTO3 tape but
the tape is definitely a LTO4 tape.  I have read the Technote on this
but that is all I have found. 

 

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/321244.htm

 

 

Thanks

 

Dwayne Adams

 

Encryption unavailable for an ENCR pool

 

4/1/2010 8:41:25 AM - started process bpbrm (1216)

4/1/2010 8:41:36 AM - connecting

4/1/2010 8:41:36 AM - connected; connect time: 00:00:00

4/1/2010 8:41:37 AM - mounting 001343

4/1/2010 8:42:23 AM - Error bptm(pid=3972) FREEZING media id 001343,
Encryption unavailable for an ENCR pool   

4/1/2010 8:42:24 AM - Warning bptm(pid=3972) media id 001343 load
operation reported an error 

4/1/2010 8:42:24 AM - current media 001343 complete, requesting next
resource Any

4/1/2010 8:42:54 AM - end writing

termination requested by administrator(150)

 

Netbackup 6.5.4

 

Library 1 Media Server

 

Dell ML6000 series

2 LTO4 drives and 4 LTO3 drives (Downed for testing encryption with LTO4
tapes)

 

manage_drive_attributes: report_attr, fl1 0x00010049, fl2 0x0004

 

Library 2 Master\Media

Dell ML6000 series

6 LTO4 drives

 

manage_drive_attributes: report_attr, fl1 0x00030849, fl2 0x

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS encryption

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

Has anyone run into this issue with KMS?  I have setup KMS on my Master
Server and can encrypt data to the pools from my Master.  I get the
following error and the tape is frozen when I try to run an encrypted
job from my Media Server.  The bptm log says the tape is a LTO3 tape but
the tape is definitely a LTO4 tape.  I have read the Technote on this
but that is all I have found. 

 

http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/321244.htm

 

 

Thanks

 

Dwayne Adams

 

Encryption unavailable for an ENCR pool

 

4/1/2010 8:41:25 AM - started process bpbrm (1216)

4/1/2010 8:41:36 AM - connecting

4/1/2010 8:41:36 AM - connected; connect time: 00:00:00

4/1/2010 8:41:37 AM - mounting 001343

4/1/2010 8:42:23 AM - Error bptm(pid=3972) FREEZING media id 001343,
Encryption unavailable for an ENCR pool   

4/1/2010 8:42:24 AM - Warning bptm(pid=3972) media id 001343 load
operation reported an error 

4/1/2010 8:42:24 AM - current media 001343 complete, requesting next
resource Any

4/1/2010 8:42:54 AM - end writing

termination requested by administrator(150)

 

Netbackup 6.5.4

 

Library 1 Media Server

 

Dell ML6000 series

2 LTO4 drives and 4 LTO3 drives (Downed for testing encryption with LTO4
tapes)

 

manage_drive_attributes: report_attr, fl1 0x00010049, fl2 0x0004

 

Library 2 Master\Media

Dell ML6000 series

6 LTO4 drives

 

manage_drive_attributes: report_attr, fl1 0x00030849, fl2 0x

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Res: Restoring RMAN files

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

RMAN can do a DB level restore to an alternate machine.  I worked at a company 
a few years back where we used the process for quarterly DR testing.  I have 
the RMAN book at home.  
http://www.amazon.com/Database-Application-Clusters-Handbook-Osborne/dp/007146509X/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_a
 (non 10g version) I will take a look at it and see if there are any options 
for doing a file level restore of the DB files and report back tomorrow.

Dwayne

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of DRAKE, MICHAEL 
(ATTCINW)
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:25 AM
To: Carlos Alberto Lima dos Santos; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Res: Restoring RMAN files

Good point Carlos,

In fact there is no restore option for RMAN in the NBU GUI or CLI.  Veritas has 
purposely set it up that way as did other vendors in collaboration with Oracle. 
 All the NBU RMAN policy really does is act as a master scheduler to launch the 
RMAN script.  The DBA has to log into RMAN and look at its own set of logs to 
do a restore.  Not an RMAN expert, but I do not believe it can do an alternate 
machine restore like NBU does.  

I think what Alan is trying to do is get Oracle to dump out some sort of file 
that can be backed up as a regular file.  So a separate standard policy is 
created, backs up this regular file, then uses an alternate restore method to 
point to restore to a different destination machine.  If he is talking about 
the Oracle export method, then that should work.  

Mike Drake
Storage Administrator
GNO Operations
EMC Proven Professional
desk 404-303-5008
cell 404-368-8079


-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Carlos Alberto 
Lima dos Santos
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:58 AM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Res: Restoring RMAN files


If backup was done using RMAN the restore should be initialized by RMAN, in 
the RMAN script the DBA can recover the DB or not. To redirect the restore to 
another server has a procedure in the NetBackup Oracle administrator's guide.



 
Carlos Alberto L. dos Santos (TOCA)
Eng. de Computação - Jundiaí - SP Brasil
http://www.linkedin.com/in/carlostoca
http://netbackupblog.blogspot.com/
carlos_lis...@yahoo.com.br




- Mensagem original 
De: awiggins 
Para: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Enviadas: Terça-feira, 16 de Março de 2010 16:59:37
Assunto: [Veritas-bu]  Restoring RMAN files


This is for an alternate client restore to a client that I cannot get the nbu 
ports opened for.  I've been told that if I can restore the rman files as plain 
files, they can then be moved to an appropriate server where the dba's will be 
able to restore the db from them.  Does this sound correct?

Thanks,

Alan

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Encrypted data sets

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

I am working on setting up KMS.  I am interested in what others are
doing for encryption with KMS.  Do you encrypt all you tapes or only the
tapes going offsite?

 

Thanks

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO3 and LTO4 drives in the same library

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

I am planning to partition my dell 6020 as part of my KMS encryption
project.  My library has 2 LTO-4 and 4 LTO-3 drives.  What is the "Best
Practice" for managing a library with different drive models?  Do most
people partition their libraries or use different media types in
Netbackup?  Also, do you see 2 robot control arms, libraries and tape
drives for the different partitions when you partition?

 

Thanks

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS Key Rotation

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

I am working on setting up KMS.  If you are using KMS in your
environment, do you rotate keys with your data sets? (Monthly,
Yearly???) I have read that it is a "Best Practice" to rotate your keys
as the data encrypted with that key expires.  Are people really doing
this with KMS?  It is a tradeoff between security and restore
complexity.  What are Netbackup Admins doing in the "Real World"?

 

Thanks

 

Dwayne Adams 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS issues in SSO environment?!

[Adams, Dwayne]

Kent,

 

I am planning for KMS now in my SSO environment.  I am very interested
in anything that your find out on this.  Does this issue occur in all
KMS + SSO installations?

 

Thanks

 

Dwayne Adams

 



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Eagle,
Kent
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:59 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] KMS issues in SSO environment?!

 

Greetings,

 

We are running NBU 6.5.3.1 with a Quantum (ADIC) i2000 Scalar library.
We currently have a bunch of LTO2 drives, but want to switch to LTO4 and
get rid of our inline encryption appliances. We know about QEKM and
QSKM, but are trying to go with a more vendor neutral solution. Also, an
i500 or another i2000 library just to enable a built in feature of LTO4
is going to be a tuff sell to the bean counters. :-(

 

In doing my research, I discovered that there is an issue with status 83
errors if you try to use KSM in an SSO environment. There are scant few
technotes, etc.., but once you get deeper into the support matrix,
people seem to know about it.

 

Etrack #1765730 (Document ID #329579) indicates that it will be fixed in
6.5.6, which has not been posted for download yet.

I can find no indication that NBU 7.x has this problem, or that it has
been fixed. Having lived through all of the major upgrades, I know that
support will be focused on 7.x problems before 6.x problems see
daylight. At least that's the way it was from 3 to 4, 4 to 5, and 5 to
6.

 

Has anyone received an engineering binary to address this, or were you
able to wrangle more info out of Symnatec? Are you successfully running
KSM right now in an SSO environment? I'd love to hear of any and all
experiences, both negative (and hopefully) positive.

 

P.S. - Yes, we've tested software based encryption; and the overhead was
so great in our environment (plus the hit we took on compression) that
it just isn't feasible.

 

 

Thanks,

Kent



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Re: [Veritas-bu] 6.5.5 2008 R2 Support

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

Has anyone ever used a client rev that is one higher that your NBU
environment. (6.5.5 Windows Client with 6.5.4 NBU Media/Master Servers)
I know it is not suggested/supported by Symantec.  I need to put the NBU
environment upgrade change on the calendar.  A 2008 R2 machine has been
deployed in my environment and I have decide if I should break the rules
and try to backup the client now or tell the customer that I can't
support backups on that client until we upgrade the environment. :-(
Please advise.

 

Thanks 

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] ndmp restore onstor to netapp

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

Has anything changed in the last few years that makes restores between
filers from different vendors possible using Netbackup? (OnStor ->
Netapp)

 

Thanks

 

Dwayne Adams

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Bare Metal restore 6.5.2

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

I am working on developing a plan to deploy Bare Metal Restore and have
some questions.  What are "others" using for their boot servers?  Do you
share your boot server with another application on Linux\Solaris\Windows
hosts, use a mixed media server environment for boot servers (Windows
master\Linux media \Solaris media) or dedicate hosts as boot servers?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Dwayne Adams 

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[Veritas-bu] VCB and Linux hosts

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

I am planning a VCB deployment and would like to know how others handle
their Linux virtual server backups.  Since you can't do an image level
incremental back for Linux hosts, do you run a full backup every night
for your Linux hosts?  Do you use a hybrid method with an image level
backup and a client in the virtual server to get file level restores?
Has anyone tried doing image level restores for Linux virtual servers to
recover individual files?  How well does this process work?  What are
the challenges you have encountered in your implementation?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Timeout settings

[Adams, Dwayne]

All,

 

I talked to Symantec about this and they say they are never combined.  

 

Thanks again.

 

Dwayne Adams

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dwayne
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:37 PM
To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Timeout settings

 

Hello,

 

I have 2 NDMP filers that die with error 23s at approximately 15 minutes
into FULL backup  jobs.   I believe Netbackup is killing the NDMP
connection after 900 seconds (waiting for a data response from the
filers).  Are some timeout settings combined during the backup process?
For instance, will a combination of client connect timeout (300) and
client read timeout (600) equal a 900 timeout and cause Netbackup to
kill the session at 900 seconds? 

 

Here are my timeout settings

 

300 Client connect + 600 Client read

300 Client connect + 600 File browse

 

Log in question...

 

10/11/2008 6:06:05 AM - connecting

10/11/2008 6:06:05 AM - connected; connect time: 00:00:00

10/11/2008 6:06:08 AM - mounting 000396

10/11/2008 6:06:59 AM - mounted; mount time: 00:00:51

10/11/2008 6:06:59 AM - positioning 000396 to file 1

10/11/2008 6:07:02 AM - positioned 000396; position time: 00:00:03

10/11/2008 6:07:02 AM - begin writing (starts waiting for data)

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed
but has not yet been destroyed.

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed
but has not yet been destroyed.

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) MoverGetState called
with no session

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) NDMP backup failed,
path = /YOURDATA/   

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed
but has not yet been destroyed.

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed
but has not yet been destroyed.

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed
but has not yet been destroyed.

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed
but has not yet been destroyed.

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) MoverGetState called
with no session

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed
but has not yet been destroyed.

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed
but has not yet been destroyed.

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - end writing; write time: 00:16:26

socket read failed(23)

 

 

Thanks in advance.

Dwayne Adams

 

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Timeout settings

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

I have 2 NDMP filers that die with error 23s at approximately 15 minutes
into FULL backup  jobs.   I believe Netbackup is killing the NDMP
connection after 900 seconds (waiting for a data response from the
filers).  Are some timeout settings combined during the backup process?
For instance, will a combination of client connect timeout (300) and
client read timeout (600) equal a 900 timeout and cause Netbackup to
kill the session at 900 seconds? 

 

Here are my timeout settings

 

300 Client connect + 600 Client read

300 Client connect + 600 File browse

 

Log in question...

 

10/11/2008 6:06:05 AM - connecting

10/11/2008 6:06:05 AM - connected; connect time: 00:00:00

10/11/2008 6:06:08 AM - mounting 000396

10/11/2008 6:06:59 AM - mounted; mount time: 00:00:51

10/11/2008 6:06:59 AM - positioning 000396 to file 1

10/11/2008 6:07:02 AM - positioned 000396; position time: 00:00:03

10/11/2008 6:07:02 AM - begin writing (starts waiting for data)

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed
but has not yet been destroyed.

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed
but has not yet been destroyed.

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) MoverGetState called
with no session

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) NDMP backup failed,
path = /YOURDATA/   

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed
but has not yet been destroyed.

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed
but has not yet been destroyed.

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed
but has not yet been destroyed.

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed
but has not yet been destroyed.

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) MoverGetState called
with no session

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed
but has not yet been destroyed.

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - Error ndmpagent(pid=3848) Connection was closed
but has not yet been destroyed.

10/11/2008 6:23:28 AM - end writing; write time: 00:16:26

socket read failed(23)

 

 

Thanks in advance.

Dwayne Adams

 

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL with NDMP

[Adams, Dwayne]

I did some testing with SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS_NDMP using direct attached and
I think the setting is not used by my filer, but the buffers size you
set must match the buffer size in the filer configuration.  So there is
a connection between this setting and the local filer buffer size.  If
they don't match I get I/O errors.

Dwayne Adams

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Cc: Rajmund Siwik; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL with NDMP

I _BELIEVE_ that SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS_NDMP applies only to 3rd party NDMP
backups that are sent to a NetBackup server.  If you're doing filer to
self or filer to filer backups (3rd party backups to another filer),
then I don't think that SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS_NDMP applies.  When NetBackup
is telling a filer to dump to himself or to another filer, I believe the
only thing it does it begin the process and then stand back and wait for
it to finish, and for the NDMP server tell the NetBackup server what it
backed up.

---
W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL with NDMP

Again, let me reiterate: I have not attempted to tune NDMP backups
from a NetApp filer to LTO-3 tape.  All of my tests were conducted
from EMC Celerra NSX NAS devices.

However, one thing you should be able to tune, and which is quite
easy, is SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS_NDMP.  By default, Netbackup uses a 63k
block size for NDMP based backups.  Obviously, increasing that from
the default to something more practical, like say (256k), increases
speed writing to tape.  LTO-3 supports a maximum block size of
 2097152 bytes.

On a Celerra, you can configure the PAX parameters below:

param_name   facility  default current
configured
paxWriteBuff PAX 64 64
dump PAX  0  0
allowVLCRestoreToUFS PAX  0  0
checkUtf8Filenames   PAX  1  1
paxStatBuff  PAX128128
readWriteBlockSizeInKB   PAX 64 64
filter.numFileFilter PAX  5  5
paxReadBuff  PAX 64 64
filter.numDirFilter  PAX  5  5
noFileStreamsPAX  0  0
nFTSThreads  PAX  8  8
scanOnRestorePAX  1  1
filter.caseSensitive PAX  1  1
nPrefetchPAX  8  8
nRestore PAX 16 16
writeToArch  PAX  1  1
writeToTape  PAX  1  1
nThread  PAX 64 64

So, there are quite a few parameters to configure from a NDMP
standpoint on a Celerra.

-- nick

On 7/5/07, Dellaripa, Rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I second that inquiry...it was my understanding there wasn't much you
> could do to tune NDMP backups.
>
> ---Rich Dellaripa
>
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> To: Nick Majeran; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
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>
> What kind of tuning you are doing on NetApps to get that speed?
>
> >
> > I have newer and older Net App boxes, assuming a 2GB san, what
> performance can I expect using NDMP?
> >
> Out of the box, untuned, 50-80 MB/s to LTO-3.  Tuned, 70-160 MB/s.
>
>
> -- nick
>
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Paul Kenny
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Audit time again,

[Adams, Dwayne]

"Accept" an exception with a fix for future requests. ;)

Dwayne Adams

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Dwayne
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Hello,

When I went through the SOX process for the first time I given this type
of request.  The answer was we do not have the data  I extended the
amount of time the logs were kept around in the Netbackup config (6
months) to meet the auditor's requirements so we could provide this
information in the future.  Check with the auditor and see if they can
provide an exception with a fix for future requests.  

Dwayne Adams

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Audit time again,

> It would be nice if you could use bpflist to grab the initial mount
> point of the backup (can you?), then script it to show the mount
points
> that were backed up that day.  That still doesn't solve the first
> problem that one of the backups could be partial, etc.

Yup, that's what I do (sort of) for one of my daily reports.  There are
some gotchas.

If you do incrementals of filesystems that have *no* updates (in my
case, I saw this on some /boot filesystems), then there may be no new
data, and nothing to pull from bpflist.  If you're working only from the
catalog, then there's no record that a backup was done on that date of
the filesystem (because no data was sent to tape).

However without that nit, and assuming standard or NDMP backups of
normal filesystems (no agents, no catalog backups), then the first file
from bpflist is the backup selection that was passed to it.

Sometimes the "index" on the first line is not '1'.  I'm not sure why
that is, but all my reports run well assuming that the first FILES line
is the selection.

> The true audit test, of course, would be to do an alternate restore of
> the thing.  To hell with logs, baby, give me a restore!

Absolutely.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Audit time again,

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

When I went through the SOX process for the first time I given this type
of request.  The answer was we do not have the data  I extended the
amount of time the logs were kept around in the Netbackup config (6
months) to meet the auditor's requirements so we could provide this
information in the future.  Check with the auditor and see if they can
provide an exception with a fix for future requests.  

Dwayne Adams

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Dunham
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:30 PM
To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Audit time again,

> It would be nice if you could use bpflist to grab the initial mount
> point of the backup (can you?), then script it to show the mount
points
> that were backed up that day.  That still doesn't solve the first
> problem that one of the backups could be partial, etc.

Yup, that's what I do (sort of) for one of my daily reports.  There are
some gotchas.

If you do incrementals of filesystems that have *no* updates (in my
case, I saw this on some /boot filesystems), then there may be no new
data, and nothing to pull from bpflist.  If you're working only from the
catalog, then there's no record that a backup was done on that date of
the filesystem (because no data was sent to tape).

However without that nit, and assuming standard or NDMP backups of
normal filesystems (no agents, no catalog backups), then the first file
from bpflist is the backup selection that was passed to it.

Sometimes the "index" on the first line is not '1'.  I'm not sure why
that is, but all my reports run well assuming that the first FILES line
is the selection.

> The true audit test, of course, would be to do an alternate restore of
> the thing.  To hell with logs, baby, give me a restore!

Absolutely.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Two Expired Tapes

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

If you have paid support give Symantec a call.  I think they helped me
with a corrupt media database issue a long time ago.  I can't remember
what we did but there is a solution to this issue.  

Dwayne Adams

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 ouch  65 tapes * 4-5 hours I would be importing forever.  Wouldn't get
much backups done.


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Why not re-import the tape back into Netbackup and then remove the
images from the catalog when it's complete. I know this is probably the
long route to take but it should work depending on your drive type (Mine
LTO2: 4-5 hours).

Glen Collins
Storage Engineering Services
Robert Half International, Inc.

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> Does anyone have the knowledge, and is willing to share with me the 
> knowledge, on how to remove a tape that is in this state?
> vmquery -m SYM742
> Could not query by media ID SYM742: volume does not exist in database
> (35)

So it's not in the VM database.  I wonder if you could create a volume
with that name via 'vmadd'.  Then try to expire it at that point (and if
it works, follow up with a 'vmdelete').


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Re: [Veritas-bu] SSO with NDMP in NBU 6.0 -- does it work

[Adams, Dwayne]

Chris,

I am doing direct attached with the filers as their own storage units.
You can do this when you are using native fibre channel drives.  The
policies point to the NDMP storage units.  I have done 3 way in the past
and it works as well. The difference is the data goes across the network
for 3 way.

Dwayne

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Adams, Dwayne wrote:
> Steve, 
> 
> I just started using it in a new deployment. (6.0 MP4) I am only 4
weeks into production but it appears to run as advertised. I have 6
native fibre drives, 2 filers and 3 media servers. All of the hosts are
zoned to all 6 drives. Let me know if you have in specific questions. 
> 
> Dwayne Adams 
> 


Dwayne, are you doing any 3-way NDMP backups from a filer to a media
server w/ SSO drives?

Do you just have all the drives in a storage unit / storage unit group
and your policies assigned to that?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] DR copies of hot catalog backups

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

What are others doing to get offsite DR copies using hot catalog
backups? FYI NB6.0 MP4 on Windows 2003.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] SSO with NDMP in NBU 6.0 -- does it work

[Adams, Dwayne]

Steve,

 

I just started using it in a new deployment. (6.0 MP4)  I am only 4
weeks into production but it appears to run as advertised.  I have 6
native fibre drives, 2 filers and 3 media servers. All of the hosts are
zoned to all 6 drives. Let me know if you have in specific questions.

 

Dwayne Adams

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Steve
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 1:09 PM
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] SSO with NDMP in NBU 6.0 -- does it work

 

Hey all ...

 

I was wondering if anyone was having luck using SSO & NDMP.  In the GA
version of 6.0 I had a lot of problems with this, but I'm hoping that's
corrected in MP4 since SSO w/NDMP was a major marketing point of 6.0.

 

TIA,

 

Steve W.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] [ORACLE] Policy Naming ... Best Practices ?

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

For this RMAN issue you are talking about a previous position I was in
used http://www.illuminator-sw.com/ to point out where database backups
were failing.  It is a great product.  I wish it would merge with a
traditional backup reporting application like Aptare so you don't need 2
applications to get this level of detail into your RMAN backups.  

Dwayne 

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L. Sesar
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Cc: Martin, Jonathan; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; Hudson,Steve
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] [ORACLE] Policy Naming ... Best Practices ?

Our stakeholders don't care about which component of a backup failed - 
they (at least around here) care about failures and resolving any issues

around failures. It would be nice if libobk would have hooks into RMAN 
which would perform exception handling.

The problem that I have with your analogy, is that NBU accurately 
reports and records job status for everyone, but "BillyBob Oracle". 
Therefore, it would be reasonable to expect that job status would be 
returned correctly for "BillyBob".

The way that it is now, an Oracle backup kicked off via the NBU 
scheduler, can fail, while returning a status 0. It's bad enough that 
NBU doesn't have an alerting mechanism, but furthermore, NBU would never

report the job as having failed, nor could an operator watching the job 
summary window in the GUI.

As an end user, I expect a backup product to accurately return the exit 
status of a backup job. I don't think that's too much to ask for. So, it

requires a bit more coding to interface with RMAN. Easily accomplished -

we wrote one.

Just my $.02



Jeff Lightner wrote:
> NBU isn't terrible at determining RMAN success/failure - it simply
> doesn't do it.  RMAN by its nature is client initiated.  NBU cares
about
> the actual transfer to storage unit.  RMAN cares about the end to end
> process so of course should be the tool that determines the
> success/failure.   More than once I've seen RMAN fail before it ever
got
> to NetBackup.
>
> It would be much like telling me I have to deposit all the money I
> receive form cashiers then asking me where the $10,000 that BillyBob
> absconded with instead of turning it into me went.  I'd have no clue
> because BillyBob didn't do his part.  The best I could do is say "I
> never got anything from BillyBob."  At that point you would want to
see
> me arrested rather than tracking down BillyBob simply because I'm in
> easy reach.  You'd still be out the money but would feel happy because
> you'd found a scapegoat  :p 
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Jonathan
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> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] [ORACLE] Policy Naming ... Best Practices ?
>
>
> I guess you can do it anyway that floats your boat.  I personally try
to
> limit the number of policies.
>
> We have policies grouping application and server.
>
> We use the following parameters.
>
> 1 - script passes the schedule name  (Weekly-Full) to .cmd or .sh
> 2 - RMAN script calls the $schedule variable with an underscore
> (Weekly_Full_) which is the application backup schedule.
> 3 - We have one script per database in the policy under the selection
> list.  If a database doesn't exist on a server that server still has
the
> script, its just empty (Echo 123 etc..)
>
> With regards to monitoring for success, Netbackup is TERRIBLE at
> handling RMAN successes and failures.  We have scripts monitor the
RMAN
> output logs.
>
> -Jonathan
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> We create a separate policy for each Rman Database.
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>
> Hi all,
>
> Is it best to create a separate policy for each oracle instance ?
>
> Currently I have 4 instances being backed up in a single policy and it
> is impossible to distinguish which instance succeeded and which
failed.
>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP alternate path restores

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

Has anyone ever been burned trying to restore a NDMP file into an
alternate path (same volume) below the root file system on a volume and
had the top level permissions removed?  Is this default behavior for
NDMP restores?  I have done non NDMP restores for years using "Restore
everything to a different location" and never experienced this issue.
Please advise...

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] oracle hot backup

[Adams, Dwayne]

Abhishek,

 

Have you linked Oracle?  I remember seeing these errors when Oracle was
not linked correctly.  Create a dbclient log on the host.  If no logs
are created when you run the backup then Oracle is not linked correctly.

 

Dwayne Adams

 



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L. Sesar
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 6:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] oracle hot backup

 

SBT_TYPE should be SBT_TAPE

--Steve




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 


Gurus, 
I have configured the Oracle backup script , but it is failing with
the error :- 

aloe:root-$PS2 cat oracle_backup.out 
oracle 

Script /opt/app/oracle/hot_database_backup.sh 
 started on Mon Jun 4 17:08:31 PDT 2007  


RMAN: /opt/app/oracle/product/9.2.0.4_32bit/bin/rman 
ORACLE_SID: EVRS 
ORACLE_USER: 60075 
ORACLE_HOME: /opt/app/oracle/product/9.2.0.4_32bit 

NB_ORA_FULL: 
NB_ORA_INCR: 
NB_ORA_CINC: 
NB_ORA_SERV: 
NB_ORA_POLICY: 

Default - Full backup requested 
RMAN> 2> 3> 4> 5> 6> 7> 8> 9> 10> 11> 12> 13> 14> 15> 16> 17> 18> 19>
20> 21> 22> 23> 24> 25> 26> 27> 28> 29> 30> 31> 32> 33> 34> 35> 36> 37>
38> RMAN> RS (DBID=554365534) 
using target database controlfile instead of recovery catalog 

RMAN> 2> 3> 4> 5> 6> 7> 8> 9> 10> 11> 12> 13> 14> 15> 16> 17> 18> 19>
20> 21> 22> 23> 24> 25> 26> 27> 28> 29> 30> 31> 32> 33> 34> 35> 36> 37>
38> 
RMAN-00571: === 
RMAN-00569: === ERROR MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS === 
RMAN-00571: === 
RMAN-03009: failure of allocate command on ch00 channel at 06/04/2007
17:08:34 
ORA-19554: error allocating device, device type: SBT_TYPE, device name: 
ORA-27001: unsupported device type 
Additional information: 1 

RMAN> 

Recovery Manager complete. 

Script /opt/app/oracle/hot_database_backup.sh 
 ended in error on Mon Jun 4 17:08:34 PDT 2007  

Any suggestions what could be the issue. 

--Abhishek 



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Recovery Catalog DB.  Best to put it on a different machine to avoid the
"all eggs in one basket" issue. 
RMAN is fully functional and is designed to work best with the DB.   

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Can anyone explain the advantage and disadvantage of using control file
as compare to using Recovery Catalog DB? 

I heard from one DBA is that using Recovery Catalog DB will enable more
RMAN features as compare to using control file? izit true?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] oracle hot backup

[Adams, Dwayne]

Abhishek,

 

Check out this book.  It is a great resource for understanding RMAN
backups.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Oracle9i-Backup-Recovery-Robert-Freeman/dp/0072226
625/ref=sr_1_2/002-4828731-6784024?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1180976805&sr=8-2

 

Dwayne 

 



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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:00 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] oracle hot backup

 


Hey 


Needed help to configure Oracle Hot backup using the netbackup
orcale agent, Please suggest the steps to follow. 
Netbackup Oracle pdf doesnot clearly specify the steps. and also i am
not aware of Oracle 

rgds 
Abhishek

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Re: [Veritas-bu] calculating backup success rate

[Adams, Dwayne]

I also found out that NOM will not collect data from the 64-bit Netbackup...  I 
am waiting for them to add compatibility so I can deploy NOM in my environment. 
 I have used Aptare and it is a great product.  

 

Dwayne 

 



From: Steve Fogarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:54 AM
To: Adams, Dwayne; 'Martin, Jonathan'; 'NB List Mail'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] calculating backup success rate

 

Only works with Enterprise Server.

 

Steve

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adams, Dwayne
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 12:35 PM
To: Martin, Jonathan; NB List Mail
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] calculating backup success rate

Jonathan,

 

The reporting option in 6.0 is called NOM and it is included in your 6.0 base 
license.  It will gather information from 5.1 master servers.

 

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:9U6ha-ZpH2YJ:eval.veritas.com/mktginfo/products/White_Papers/Data_Protection/nbu_6_Technical_Brief_NOM_final.pdf+netbackup+nom&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us

 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:01 AM
To: NB List Mail
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] calculating backup success rate

 

LOL

 

My Symantec Sales Rep was out here three weeks ago pitching Backup reporter as 
the way to go in my mixed 6.0 and 5.1 environment.

 

Oh my!

 

-Jonathan

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hindle, Greg
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:33 AM
To: rcarlisle; NB List Mail
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] calculating backup success rate

I was told by my netbackup 6.0 instructor not to buy backup reporter because it 
is built in to 6.0.  The backup reporter was for versions below 6. can anyone 
comment on this? The instructor has been with Symantec for over 9 years and 
most of them in support.

 

Greg 

 



From: rcarlisle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:28 AM
To: Hindle, Greg; 'NB List Mail'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] calculating backup success rate

Greg,

 

Vision is Symantec's big user conference.  It is coming up next week in Las 
Vegas.  It is definitely worth attending.  If you are looking at reporting 
tools, I would suggest checking out Aptare and Symantec Backup Reporter.   
Tools like these can make your reporting life for management much easier.

 

 

 

Reneé Carlisle 

ServerWare Corporation

 



From: Hindle, Greg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:12 AM
To: rcarlisle; NB List Mail
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] calculating backup success rate

Thanks. These reports are for monthly metrics and upper management does see 
them. I was just curious what others are doing to report this info. We don't 
have any reporting tools in place (yet).  You mention Vision? What is this a 
user conference?

 

Greg 

 



From: rcarlisle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:46 AM
To: Hindle, Greg; 'NB List Mail'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] calculating backup success rate

Greg,

 

Great questions.  I would say that it depends on the audience.  Any reporting 
tool on the market for NBU today can give you this information in different 
"slices".  Many clients do track this information and it is a great way to get 
a quick "health check" of the environment.  If you are tracking this 
information for Management, I would speculate they are interested on the % of 
successful backups you ran and if you are meeting SLA's.  High level reports of 
the number successful vs. the number of backups run should suffice.  For their 
level, you may decide to strip out test backups, backups that were 
intentionally killed, and backups with multiple attempts.  But that may depend 
on your environment and management.  

 

If you are reporting for business units, DBAs, SA's..etc, they primarily care 
about if their backup ran or not.  You would probably want to strip out failed 
attempts, but you might choose to include a report on backups that should have 
run but didn't

 

If you are creating a report for yourself or other NBU operators, you probably 
want to look at multiple attempts.  This can help you identify potential issues 
in your environment that could threaten future success of your backups.

 

I don't know if your going to Vision this year, but there are several sessions 
on backup reporting you might want to check out.

 

Good Luck

 

Reneé Carlisle 

ServerWare Corporation

 

 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hindle, Greg
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:57 AM
To: NB List Mail
Subject: [Veritas-bu] calculatin

Re: [Veritas-bu] calculating backup success rate

[Adams, Dwayne]

Jonathan,

 

The reporting option in 6.0 is called NOM and it is included in your 6.0 base 
license.  It will gather information from 5.1 master servers.

 

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:9U6ha-ZpH2YJ:eval.veritas.com/mktginfo/products/White_Papers/Data_Protection/nbu_6_Technical_Brief_NOM_final.pdf+netbackup+nom&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us

 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:01 AM
To: NB List Mail
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] calculating backup success rate

 

LOL

 

My Symantec Sales Rep was out here three weeks ago pitching Backup reporter as 
the way to go in my mixed 6.0 and 5.1 environment.

 

Oh my!

 

-Jonathan

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hindle, Greg
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:33 AM
To: rcarlisle; NB List Mail
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] calculating backup success rate

I was told by my netbackup 6.0 instructor not to buy backup reporter because it 
is built in to 6.0.  The backup reporter was for versions below 6. can anyone 
comment on this? The instructor has been with Symantec for over 9 years and 
most of them in support.

 

Greg 

 



From: rcarlisle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:28 AM
To: Hindle, Greg; 'NB List Mail'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] calculating backup success rate

Greg,

 

Vision is Symantec's big user conference.  It is coming up next week in Las 
Vegas.  It is definitely worth attending.  If you are looking at reporting 
tools, I would suggest checking out Aptare and Symantec Backup Reporter.   
Tools like these can make your reporting life for management much easier.

 

 

 

Reneé Carlisle 

ServerWare Corporation

 



From: Hindle, Greg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:12 AM
To: rcarlisle; NB List Mail
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] calculating backup success rate

Thanks. These reports are for monthly metrics and upper management does see 
them. I was just curious what others are doing to report this info. We don't 
have any reporting tools in place (yet).  You mention Vision? What is this a 
user conference?

 

Greg 

 



From: rcarlisle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:46 AM
To: Hindle, Greg; 'NB List Mail'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] calculating backup success rate

Greg,

 

Great questions.  I would say that it depends on the audience.  Any reporting 
tool on the market for NBU today can give you this information in different 
"slices".  Many clients do track this information and it is a great way to get 
a quick "health check" of the environment.  If you are tracking this 
information for Management, I would speculate they are interested on the % of 
successful backups you ran and if you are meeting SLA's.  High level reports of 
the number successful vs. the number of backups run should suffice.  For their 
level, you may decide to strip out test backups, backups that were 
intentionally killed, and backups with multiple attempts.  But that may depend 
on your environment and management.  

 

If you are reporting for business units, DBAs, SA's..etc, they primarily care 
about if their backup ran or not.  You would probably want to strip out failed 
attempts, but you might choose to include a report on backups that should have 
run but didn't

 

If you are creating a report for yourself or other NBU operators, you probably 
want to look at multiple attempts.  This can help you identify potential issues 
in your environment that could threaten future success of your backups.

 

I don't know if your going to Vision this year, but there are several sessions 
on backup reporting you might want to check out.

 

Good Luck

 

Reneé Carlisle 

ServerWare Corporation

 

 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hindle, Greg
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:57 AM
To: NB List Mail
Subject: [Veritas-bu] calculating backup success rate

How does everyone track this? Do you count just total successfully backups vs. 
the number of attempts? And how do you handle a backup that failed 3 times but 
ran good on the forth?

 

Greg 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] SQL Agent batch size

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

I am setting up Hot MS SQL backups and testing performance.  I would
like to know what batch size others are using in their environment to
get optimal performance from LTO3 drives.  I am running Netbackup 6.0
MP4 on Windows 2003 64-bit.  The MS SQL server is also a SAN media
server.  I am backing up 50 or so small databases.  I would like to
design a configuration that scales appropriately as the databases grow
and additional databases are added.

 

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] media best practices

[Adams, Dwayne]

Thanks Jonathan.  I love this mail list.  It is the perfect companion
for lonely backup admins who don't have a peer in their organization to
bounce ideas and questions off. =)

 

Thanks again.

 

Dwayne Adams

 



From: Martin, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 11:23 AM
To: Adams, Dwayne
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] media best practices

 

We've been mixing Windows, Linux, Solaris, Oracle RMAN, Exchange and
recently (two days ago) NDMP backups on the same media (SDLT & LTO3) on
Netbackup 5.1 and 6.0 so I think you're good. ;)

 

-Jonathan

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adams,
Dwayne
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:52 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] media best practices

Hello,

 

Do you split your SQL, Exchange, file system and NDMP data into separate
volume pools when the retention periods are the same?  Does anyone have
any horror stories to tell about sharing data types on tapes? =)  I have
combined NT and UNIX data for years without issue even though some
places separate their UNIX and Windows data.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] media best practices

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

Do you split your SQL, Exchange, file system and NDMP data into separate
volume pools when the retention periods are the same?  Does anyone have
any horror stories to tell about sharing data types on tapes? =)  I have
combined NT and UNIX data for years without issue even though some
places separate their UNIX and Windows data.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] MS SQL backups

[Adams, Dwayne]

Thanks.  Just found it in the documentation $ALL is used within the
script.

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adams,
Dwayne
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:09 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] MS SQL backups

 

Hello,

 

Will the MS SQL agent automatically backup new databases that are added
or do you need to modify the script whenever a new DB is added?

I am running NB 6.0 MP4.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] MS SQL backups

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

Will the MS SQL agent automatically backup new databases that are added
or do you need to modify the script whenever a new DB is added?

I am running NB 6.0 MP4.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] MS SQL backup tuning

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

Does anyone know a good document or white paper for tuning hot MS SQL
backups using Netbackup 6.0 and the SQL agent?  (real world performance
numbers and such...)

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dwayne Adams  

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP performance tuning on LTO 3 drives

[Adams, Dwayne]

Courtney,

How many spindles do you have behind the volume you are backing up at
90+ MB/Sec? I seem to only get 37 - 48 MB/Sec.  I made the joke to the
Symantec support guys that I got almost that speed using LTO2 with 3 way
remote. =) I am a little disappointed.  The filer company says that I
should be happy with about 50MB/Sec.  What a waste of LTO3 technology!!!
I have tried modifying the block size without success.  The filer
immediately kicks back IO errors even if I match the local block size
with SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS_NDMP.

Dwayne Adams

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From: Jones, Courtenay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:52 AM
To: Adams, Dwayne; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NDMP performance tuning on LTO 3 drives

What kind of filer are you using? We are using EMC's NSX, and they
provide a tuning guide that we used. We are seeing consistent 90MB/s +
speeds 


Regards,

 
-cj
Courtenay Jones
UNIX Systems Engineer, Raleigh Technology Centre



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adams,
Dwayne
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 11:22 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP performance tuning on LTO 3 drives

Hello,

I am working on setting up NDMP v4 backups using Netbackup 6.0 with LTO3
drives.  The drives will be SAN attached to the filers.  Can anyone
provide any information on their experience with performance tuning with
NDMP?  Can you achieve native speed+ with directly attached LTO3 tape
drives? Also, how well does SSO work when you share the drives between
your media servers and the filers?

Thanks in advance.

Dwayne Adams


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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and encryption

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

What are the available options for encrypting your NDMP backups on tape?
I am using Netbackup 6.0 MP4

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP restores from the windows GUI

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

Are there any "Gotchas" when running a restore to alternate location
from the Windows GUI? Or does it work the way I would expect it to?
(minus recreating the original directory structure in the alternate path
you select)

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP performance

[Adams, Dwayne]

Courtenay,

How long do your jobs run to see that type of performance?  There seems
to be an initial time penalty when the system builds the file list.  I
am running small jobs of 100GB so that probably plays into my initial
times I am seeing.  I am getting throughput of about 43MB/sec for my
100GB dataset.
Thank you for your reply.

Dwayne Adams


Dwayne Adams

-Original Message-
From: Jones, Courtenay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 9:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Adams, Dwayne
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NDMP performance

We see 70 MB/sec straight out of the  box.
EMC NSX Celerra. 


Regards,

 
-cj
Courtenay Jones
UNIX Systems Engineer, Raleigh Technology Centre



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shane
Liebling
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 11:49 AM
To: Adams, Dwayne
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP performance

What do you have the drives attached to?  A NetApp?  A Linux box?

-Shane

On 4/30/07, Adams, Dwayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> What type of performance are you seeing in your environment using NDMP
> direct attached backups with LTO3 drives?  I would like to get close
native
> speed of 80MB/sec.  Am I chasing something that I will never achieve?
Have
> you modified your block size on your filer to match your drive buffer
size?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Dwayne Adams
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP performance

[Adams, Dwayne]

OnStor filers. NDMP v4.

-Original Message-
From: Shane Liebling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:49 AM
To: Adams, Dwayne
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP performance

What do you have the drives attached to?  A NetApp?  A Linux box?

-Shane

On 4/30/07, Adams, Dwayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> What type of performance are you seeing in your environment using NDMP
> direct attached backups with LTO3 drives?  I would like to get close
native
> speed of 80MB/sec.  Am I chasing something that I will never achieve?
Have
> you modified your block size on your filer to match your drive buffer
size?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Dwayne Adams
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP performance

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

What type of performance are you seeing in your environment using NDMP
direct attached backups with LTO3 drives?  I would like to get close
native speed of 80MB/sec.  Am I chasing something that I will never
achieve?  Have you modified your block size on your filer to match your
drive buffer size?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dwayne Adams

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] 32-bit NOM server with 64-bit Windows 2003 Master/Media server

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

Has anyone run into this issue with Netbackup 6.0?  I just checked the
release notes and I am shocked  Was this fixed in MP4?

 

http://backups.lbl.gov/backups/documentation/SysAdmin/6.0/NetBackup_Rele
ase_Notes.pdf

 

 

Dwayne Adams

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[Veritas-bu] catalog question

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

Has anyone moved their catalog location to a new file system during the
initial install of Netbackup?  I am planning for an install of Netbackup
6.0 MP4 on Windows 2003 64-bit.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP volume backups

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

Do you split your NDMP volumes greater than 1 TB into multiple streams?
I am trying to figure out which way I want to go with my config.  I am
mainly concerned about complicating the setup and restore process with a
large file list.  Please respond with your input.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] VxSS

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

Is anyone using VxSS/NBAC in their environment?  If so, are there any
gotchas or challenges?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] clients in hosts files and forcing NICs to FULL

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

I have managed a few backup environments and always put the backup
servers in the hosts file of the clients and the clients in the backup
server's hosts file.  I always like to control name resolution myself.
Do most backup administrator do that or am I a relic from the past?
Also, do most backup admins use AUTO negotiate or set the switch port
and the host to FULL DUPLEX? My practices are being questioned and I
would like to check to see if what I am doing is in line with what most
backup admins are doing.

 

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] mixed media in the same library

[Adams, Dwayne]

Bobby,

 

How do you mange the different tapes once they are in the library?  Do
you start the tapes in the pool that you would use them in instead of
the scratch pool?  I am assuming that the LTO2 media is not appropriate
for all your jobs. Do you have both LTO2 and LTO3 drives in the same
library? Do you use LTO2 media in LTO3 drives?

 

Dwayne Adams

 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:44 AM
To: Adams, Dwayne; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] mixed media in the same library

 

I have the both in the same library at multiple locations.  If you
define them at HCART2, they show as HCART2.  If you define them as
HCART, then they show as HCART.  You have to define them as the same
media type as you defined the LTO-3 tape drives.  That must be different
from the LTO-2 tape drives.

 

The biggest headache is that unless you started out using the last 2
digits of the bar code in your tape label names, you can not make a bar
code that will distinguish between LTO-2 and LTO-3 media.

 

The first time that you inject a new piece of media that is not set as
your default media in your bar code rule, you will have to over-ride the
media type.

 

Bobby.

 

 

-- Original message -- 
From: "Adams, Dwayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Hello,

 

Quick question. .. Does anyone use LTO2 and LTO3 media in the
same library because of a mandate from management?  Are there any
gotchas? Does LTO3 media still appear as HCART2?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dwayne Adams

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] mixed media in the same library

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

Quick question. .. Does anyone use LTO2 and LTO3 media in the same
library because of a mandate from management?  Are there any gotchas?
Does LTO3 media still appear as HCART2?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dwayne Adams

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] maximum backup streams for SAN data

[Adams, Dwayne]

I have a ticket open with Symantec for the official answer.  I will
reply with the information they provide.  The info that I have suggests
that it will be fixed in 6.0.

 

http://support.veritas.com/docs/273806
<http://support.veritas.com/docs/273806> 

 

Formal Resolution:
VERITAS Engineering is working towards providing a permanent solution
for this issue. Until this issue has been resolved with a future release
of NetBackup, VERITAS strongly recommends configuring your environment
to ensure NDMP backups do not exceed 1 terabyte in size. VERITAS
Engineering has scheduled to include a permanent fix for this issue with
NetBackup 6.0 (scheduled for release late Q4 of 2005) and NetBackup 5.1
Maintenance Pack 3A, available at:
http://support.veritas.com/menu_ddProduct_NBUESVR_view_DOWNLOAD.htm
<http://support.veritas.com/menu_ddProduct_NBUESVR_view_DOWNLOAD.htm>  .

 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:58 AM
To: Scott Jacobson; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; Adams, Dwayne
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] maximum backup streams for SAN data

 

Kate supplied it.  I have an 5.1MP6 master that still sees it.  May have
something to do with the client version.

 

 

http://support.veritas.com/docs/273806
<http://support.veritas.com/docs/273806>  

 

Products Applied: 
 NetBackup BusinesServer 4.5, 4.5 (FP6), 4.5 (FP7), 4.5 (FP8), 4.5
(MP6), 4.5 (MP7), 4.5 (MP8)
 NetBackup DataCenter 4.5, 4.5 (FP6), 4.5 (FP7), 4.5 (FP8), 4.5 (MP6),
4.5 (MP7), 4.5 (MP8)
 NetBackup Enterprise Server 5.0, 5.0 MP1, 5.0 MP2, 5.0 MP3, 5.0 MP4,
5.1, 5.1 MP1, 5.1 MP2, 5.1 MP3 (Fixed)
 NetBackup Server 5.0, 5.0 MP1, 5.0 MP2, 5.0 MP3, 5.0 MP4, 5.1, 5.1 MP1,
5.1 MP2, 5.1 MP3 (Fixed)

~Kate

 

-- Original message -- 
From: "Scott Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Bobby,

 

I'd be interested in knowing of a link to that documentation/bug
from Veritas.

 

Scott

>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/10/2007 9:51 AM >>>

If you are using NB5.1, don't make them larger than 1TB.  There
is a reported bug that documents that even though you get good backups,
you can't restore.

 

I have seen the restores fail.  There is not a way to get it off
of the tape.

 

Bobby.

 

    ---------- Original message -- 
From: "Adams, Dwayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Hello,

 

I am designing a new backup environment.  I have some
NDMP data to backup with volumes that can grow up to 5TB each. Should I
separate the volumes into to multiple streams for NDMP backups in excess
of a TB? I have read that this is a best practice but I would like to
know what people are doing in the real world.  I am aware of the
benefits of shrinking the dataset if a job fails. =)

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] maximum backup streams for SAN data

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

 

I am designing a new backup environment.  I have some NDMP data to
backup with volumes that can grow up to 5TB each. Should I separate the
volumes into to multiple streams for NDMP backups in excess of a TB? I
have read that this is a best practice but I would like to know what
people are doing in the real world...  I am aware of the benefits of
shrinking the dataset if a job fails. =)

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP performance tuning on LTO 3 drives

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

I am working on setting up NDMP v4 backups using Netbackup 6.0 with LTO3
drives.  The drives will be SAN attached to the filers.  Can anyone
provide any information on their experience with performance tuning with
NDMP?  Can you achieve native speed+ with directly attached LTO3 tape
drives? Also, how well does SSO work when you share the drives between
your media servers and the filers?

Thanks in advance.

Dwayne Adams


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Re: [Veritas-bu] performance scripts

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

I have been tasked with evaluating the performance of 5.1 environment
running on Solaris and making recommendations for improvement. Can
anyone point me to some good scripts that can be used to pull drive
utilization information, backup window utilization, client performance,
etc?

Thanks in advance.

Dwayne Adams

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare gotchas?

[Adams, Dwayne]

I implemented Aptare in a previous position and it was a 
great SA tool.  I loved some of the features specifically the real time 
backup monitoring in a single pane of glass for all my backup servers 
worldwide.  One of the other things that was great is that it would 
highlight jobs that were running abnormally long in it's activity 
monitor.   It made my job of monitoring job status/failures 
significantly easier. The reporting features were really good for capacity 
planning and understanding backup window utilization. I can't say enough about 
how great this product is.  What other third party products are people 
using for backup reporting on Netbackup?
 
I promise I don't work for Aptare =)
 
Dwayne Adams
 
 



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some work the Aptare Tech support it is working 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Exclude list not working

[Adams, Dwayne]

Hello,

I am a junior solaris admin and I am having an issue with trying to use
and exclude list to fix a backup issue without fighting with the box
admin to fix the box.  Can anyone give me some pointers about why my
exlcude list is not working given the bperror log below.

Thanks in advance.

Dwayne Adams


lost+found
core
/cdrom
/view
/dev/shm
/opt/oracle/rptdv
/usr/sitescope
/opt/patrol
/holder/bst003
/holder/bst002
/holder/bst001
*/html/test_report_two__0_344.htm
*/html/test2__257.htm
*/html/hello1.html

11/15/2006 12:10:43 V1 S:escort C:CLIENT J:685497 (U:685497,0)
  Error(0x10) Backup(0x4) bpbrm
  from client CLIENT: ERR - Cannot lstat64
  html/test_report_two__0_344.htm. Errno = 89: Operation not applicable

11/15/2006 12:10:43 V1 S:escort C:CLIENT J:685497 (U:685497,0)
  Error(0x10) Backup(0x4) bpbrm
  from client CLIENT: ERR - Cannot lstat64
  html/test2__257.htm. Errno = 89: Operation not applicable

11/15/2006 12:10:43 V1 S:escort C:CLIENT J:685497 (U:685497,0)
  Error(0x10) Backup(0x4) bpbrm
  from client CLIENT: ERR - Cannot lstat64 html/hello1.html.
  Errno = 89: Operation not applicable

11/15/2006 12:10:45 V1 S:escort C:CLIENT J:685497 (U:685497,0)
  Warning(0x8) Backup(0x4) bpbrm
  from client CLIENT: WRN - Cannot get working directory
  /holder/bst003. Errno = 6: No such device or address

11/15/2006 12:10:45 V1 S:escort C:CLIENT J:685497 (U:685497,0)
  Warning(0x8) Backup(0x4) bpbrm
  from client CLIENT: WRN - Cannot get working directory
  /holder/bst002. Errno = 6: No such device or address

11/15/2006 12:10:45 V1 S:escort C:CLIENT J:685497 (U:685497,0)
  Warning(0x8) Backup(0x4) bpbrm
  from client CLIENT: WRN - Cannot get working directory
  /holder/bst001. Errno = 6: No such device or address

11/15/2006 12:35:25 V1 S:escort C:CLIENT J:685497 (U:685497,0)
  Error(0x10) Backup(0x4) bpbrm
  from client CLIENT: ERR - Cannot lstat64 /opt/patrol. Errno
  = 5: I/O error

11/15/2006 12:36:50 V1 S:escort C:CLIENT J:685497 (U:685497,0)
  Error(0x10) Backup(0x4) bpsched
  backup of client CLIENT exited with status 1 (the requested
  operation was partially successful)

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