Re: [Veritas-bu] Migrate master server to new hardware

2009-08-23 Thread Andrew White
I would install all the packages like a new install then rsync your
entire nbu install/data from the old server :)






On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:02 PM,
fredriklindgren wrote:
>
> We are about to migrate our NetBackup master server from old hardware to a 
> new and at the same time upgrade from SLES9 to SLES10 and do a hostname 
> change. The server is a pure master and have no connections to disk or tape. 
> It is connected to 5 media servers.
>
> Is there a best practice for these kind of migration? Can it be done with a 
> DR?
>
> Did some googling and found a post over at the official Symantec forum that 
> Symantec support can not assist in these kind of operations and you should 
> contact Syamantec Consulting Service.
>
> These kind of migrations must be done frequently around NetBackup customers 
> so I am hoping there are some NetBackup gurus out there that's been through 
> this before that could give me some good advices?
>
> Regards
> Fredrik Lindgren
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Linux slowly dropping drives.

2009-01-29 Thread Andrew White
Has anyone placed a call with redhat support?

I'm sure they would want this solved as much as anyone



On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Rosenkoetter, Gabriel <
gabriel.rosenkoet...@radian.biz> wrote:

> One drive may easily have needed cleaning for longer... or are you saying
> the two that advertise that are a disjoint set from the one that's down?
>
> What do you see in /var/log/messages when you try to up the drives?
>
> What do you see in /usr/openv/netbackup/logs/bptm/log.MMDDYY and in
> /var/log/messages when the drives are downed of their own accord? (Turn
> VERBOSE=5 on in bp.conf if you haven't already.)
>
> Also, please describe your environment in more detail:
>
> Are these drives in a tape library? If so, does that tape library perform
> automatic cleaning of the drives?
>
> Do you have the /usr/openv/volmgr/database/NO_TAPEALERT touch file in
> place? (Does that file even still get used under 6.5? I don't see a parallel
> setting in nbemmcmd yet...)
>
> (I have something of a vested interest here... I'm about to migrate from
> HP-UX 11iv2 to RHEL 5 for our NetBackup servers, so if there's a fundamental
> flaw in the Linux ST driver or NetBackup's use of it, I'd like to know
> sooner...)
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Donaldson, Mark [mailto:mark.donald...@staples.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:34 PM
> To: Justin Piszcz
> Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Linux slowly dropping drives.
>
> Interesting - I never thought of tpclean.
>
> tpclean shows two in "need cleaning" status but, as I have one drive
> down now, there's no correlation with the down drive.
>
> lto2 are scsi drives connected via fc through fiber bridges.
>
> I've had this problem through multiple version of this OS but it's the
> only Linux media server in my environment.  (We're using the native lto2
> drive, too - supposed to be part of this OS).
>
> -M
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:33 AM
> To: Donaldson, Mark
> Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Linux slowly dropping drives.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Donaldson, Mark wrote:
>
> > We have a dedicated media server built on an AMD box running RHEL 5.2
> > (2.6.18-92.1.13.el5 #1 SMP Thu Sep 4 03:51:21 EDT 2008 x86_64).
> >
> > Over time, our LTO2 drives will go down one by one.  A "scan" doesn't
> > seem to show any issues but if I "vmoprcmd -up" them, they'll just go
> > down again.  After I collect a half-dozen down drives, I reboot the
> > server and they'll be fine again for while.
> >
> > Anybody else having this trouble? Have you solved it?
> >
> > -M
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> What does tpclean -L say?
>
> Have they ever stayed up in the past?
>
> Do you have a fiber switched environment?
>
> Justin.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] How to plan out policy(schedules), [...]

2008-12-12 Thread Andrew White
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Curtis Preston wrote:

>  Suit!?!?!  Them's fightin' words!
>
>
>
> I need to do a blog on this, as I answer this question a lot.
>
>
>
> If you want to do weekly backups using frequency based schedules, here are
> your choices.
>
>
>
>1. Leave the window open only on the night you want the backup to run.
>Schedules that succeed that night will be fine.  BUT if it fails that 
> night,
>it won't retry until next week. Yuck.
>2. Leave all nights' windows open.  When the backup that's supposed to
>run Monday fails and then runs on Tuesday, it will always run on Tuesday
>from then on because that will be when it meets the frequency of 7 days.
>Full backups end up creeping around and bunching together.  I HATE this one
>as it's unpredictable over time.  I've seen it where over time all my full
>backups were running on the same night.  (I like to spread them out.)
>3. Leave a few days' windows open (say, 3), and set a frequency of 4
>days. This causes NBU to try on the first day with an open window, then
>retry on the second/third if it fails.  You have the retry feature that
>calendar-based backups have without the schedule creep problem because you
>have a frequency of four days.  (This is the best of the three, IMHO.)
>
>
>
The schedule-creep problem is compounded by manual backups.  If you ever do
> a manual backup, the frequency will be calculated from that day.  Suppose
> you chose option three above and opened the windows for Friday, Saturday,
> and Sunday night, and put a frequency of four days.  If you happened to run
> a manual full backup on Thursday night, your regular full backup won't run
> that weekend.
>
>
>
I agree 100% with Curtis on this.  If you have a large environment with
drives/resources being super utilised schedule creep can and is
disastrous.

Not to mention client X expected his full to run on day Y and needed to
backout from a change based on the full backup - woops!

> _*I*_ like to do monthly full backups and weekly cumulative incremental
> backups.  The above problems are compounded when you want to do this.  You
> can't reliably predict what night the fulls are going to run, and can't
> easily spread them out across the month (which I like to do).  It's much
> easier to spread them out using calendar based schedules.  You take some
> clients and tell them to do their full on the 1st Friday of the month, and
> their cumulative incremental every Friday.  When the two "clash" on the 1
> st Friday, the full takes precedence and runs.  Every other Friday it will
> run a cumulative incremental.  As for the failed backup problem, you just
> check "allow after run day," and it will retry the backups until they
> succeed, and this won't mess in any way with when they'll run the next
> time.  Also, running manual full backups won't mess with the schedule
> either.
>
>
>
> The manual tells you not to mix calendar and frequency backups.  I don't
> like calendar backups for daily backups, so some see this as a problem.  BUT
> I've found that if you monthly full, weekly cumulative, and daily (frequency
> based) incremental all have the same windows, the frequency-based schedule
> will take precedence and run when the others aren't running and the calendar
> backups will take precedence when it's time for them to run.  You just have
> to keep the windows the same.
>
>
>
> The only goofy thing about calendar-based schedules (and it really annoys
> me) is that most people use a 6 PM to 6 AM clock (or some evening hour to
> some morning hour).  If you tell NBU to do the full on the 1st Friday of
> the month and leave all windows open, it will actually run the backup at
> just after midnight on Friday (Thursday night).  That's probably not what
> you wanted.  So you have to delete the window for the night before (in this
> case, Thursday).  I hate it, but I've learned to live with it.
>
>
>
> Both methods have issues.  I prefer the predictability of the
> calendar-based method.
>
>
>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NOM 6.5.

2008-11-10 Thread Andrew White
Thanks Ed,

I'm interested if anyone is using it in a large site and if so, it what
capabilities, what server configuration and how is it performing for them :)

By large, I mean tens of thousands of jobs and thousands of clients...

Cheers

Andrew

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Ed Wilts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Andrew White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm just wondering what are peoples thoughts on NOM 6.5?  In what capacity
>> are you using NOM (reporting and/or alerting (snmp/email)) and has anyone
>> got it configured in a cluster?
>
>
> After the Customer Forum in Roseville at the end of October, Erica
> convinced me to put it up.  Although I generally like NOM, we haven't had
> much success with it and the we've got an open case where it seems to
> contribute to tipping over our master server (and yes, it's a separate
> server).  Right now, we've got NOM turned off.
>
> YMMV, obviously.
>
> .../Ed
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NOM 6.5.

2008-11-09 Thread Andrew White
NOM is free... aptare isnt.



On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Scott Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  And so it may be time again to have NOM and Aptare discussion.
>
> Could those who've been a supporter and user of each now chime in give us
> their current comparative opinions?
>
> Thanks,
> -sj
>
> >>> Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/9/2008 7:01 PM >>>
>
> Ed,
>
> I'm interested to know how you think NOM contributed to problems on your
> master. Can you elaborate?
>
> Our master is RHEL4, NOM running on a Win2003 box. NOM is kinda helpful,
> but, if there is any chance of it causing problems on the master, I will
> shut down NOM immediately.
>
> Thanks,
> Dean
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Ed Wilts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Andrew White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm just wondering what are peoples thoughts on NOM 6.5?  In what
>>> capacity are you using NOM (reporting and/or alerting (snmp/email)) and has
>>> anyone got it configured in a cluster?
>>
>>
>> After the Customer Forum in Roseville at the end of October, Erica
>> convinced me to put it up.  Although I generally like NOM, we haven't had
>> much success with it and the we've got an open case where it seems to
>> contribute to tipping over our master server (and yes, it's a separate
>> server).  Right now, we've got NOM turned off.
>>
>> YMMV, obviously.
>>
>> .../Ed
>>
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[Veritas-bu] NOM 6.5.

2008-11-09 Thread Andrew White
G'day,

I'm just wondering what are peoples thoughts on NOM 6.5?  In what capacity
are you using NOM (reporting and/or alerting (snmp/email)) and has anyone
got it configured in a cluster?

Cheers

Andrew
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Duplicating Image

2008-10-17 Thread Andrew White
errr, the "oracle" job means you can use the netbackup scheduler to perform
the duplicate rather than using cron.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Jeff Lightner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   You can just write a shell script that runs the bpduplicate.  Not sure
> why anyone would think this would require an "Oracle" backup.
>
>
>
> Another option with that short a window is to simply do in line backup copy
> where you actually write the backup twice as it is running.   We do that
> with our multi-terabyte DBs that would take far too long to duplicate after
> the fact.
>
>
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>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> You could setup an "oracle" backup which executes a script which performs
> bpduplicate :)
>
> cheers
>
>
>  On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Roedy boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> Is there any change to duplicate image on tape to another tape using
> schedule/policy (not using vault). for exp : I want to run backup on 8pm and
> the duplicate the image on 10pm.
>
> Thanks
> Roed
>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Duplicating Image

2008-10-17 Thread Andrew White
Hi,

You could setup an "oracle" backup which executes a script which performs
bpduplicate :)

cheers



On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Roedy boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi All,
> Is there any change to duplicate image on tape to another tape using
> schedule/policy (not using vault). for exp : I want to run backup on 8pm and
> the duplicate the image on 10pm.
>
> Thanks
> Roed
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU cross-site

2008-10-07 Thread Andrew White
Howdy,

Likewise (depending on the environment) we have clustered masters locally
and the replicated to another site as well or for the non-highly available
we just have a single master and deal with a 4 hour outage to rebuild the
machine.

Multiple masters is just a pain in the backside.



On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Clausen, Matt R [EQ] <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I'm curious though…. From a Disaster Recovery perspective, are you
> replicating a master across sites to avoid the master server being the
> single point of failure? If so, what are you using to do it?
>
>
>  --
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> *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU cross-site
>
>
>
> I agree with Ed,
>
> I have media servers scattered around the entire country without any
> issues.
>
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Ed Wilts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 3:56 PM, spaldam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> Second, I wouldn't run master/media servers across a WAN; especially since
> NOM has the ability to manage multiple Master servers from a centralized
> console.  If you lose the WAN, you done and all you backups fail.
>
>
> I disagree - we have media servers scattered in multiple locations
> connected to our main master and it's been working fine for a long time.
> Simply put, don't lose the WAN - we have redundant paths to all of our
> locations with media servers.  If we lose WAN connectivity to our remote
> offices, they're in a world of hurt anyway and backups are the least of
> their problems.
>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU cross-site

2008-10-07 Thread Andrew White
I agree with Ed,

I have media servers scattered around the entire country without any
issues.

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Ed Wilts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 3:56 PM, spaldam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
>
>> Second, I wouldn't run master/media servers across a WAN; especially since
>> NOM has the ability to manage multiple Master servers from a centralized
>> console.  If you lose the WAN, you done and all you backups fail.
>
>
> I disagree - we have media servers scattered in multiple locations
> connected to our main master and it's been working fine for a long time.
> Simply put, don't lose the WAN - we have redundant paths to all of our
> locations with media servers.  If we lose WAN connectivity to our remote
> offices, they're in a world of hurt anyway and backups are the least of
> their problems.
>
>
> --
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> .../Ed
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Re: [Veritas-bu] ACSLS 7.1 to 7.2

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew White
G'day,

I am also looking at upgrading to 7.2 on a few environments and would be
interested in how people go...

Cheers


> We recently upgraded to ACSLS 7.2. It was very simple with no DB issues.
> Of course we did not migrate the database. We did a fresh install and a
> library audit populated the new database...
>
> Harry S.
> Atlanta
>
> 
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hudson,
> Steve
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 1:21 PM
> To: Scott Jacobson; nbu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] ACSLS 7.1 to 7.2
>
>
>
> I will be doing this soon as well so I am also interested in real world
> experiences.
>
> 
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
> Jacobson
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:41 AM
> To: nbu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] ACSLS 7.1 to 7.2
>
>
>
> Has anyone upgraded their ACSLS 7.1 to 7.2?
>
>
>
> Just curious if there were any issues with database migration from
> Informix to Postgres?
>
>
>
> I didn't see anything on the topic at Backup Central.
>
>
>
> The instructions from the StorageTek 7.2 ICAG look straight forward, but
> looks can be deceiving.
>
>
>
> Any experiences, suggestions or guidelines would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>
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