Re: [Veritas-bu] media server cutoff point
They should probably look at moving to 6.5 when it comes out and use the Fibre Transport client rather than adding all the media servers. We had a similar model in our infant days with NBU. Lots of media servers all using SSO. The environment was pretty unstable. Once we scaled back our media servers, the environment performed much better. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator 675 Basket Road Webster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w) 585-472-2360 (c) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ambrose, Monte Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] media server cutoff point When I did architectures for clients at VERITAS I used the following to determine what clients should be upgraded to media servers. I believe that other architects followed some of these same guidelines. 1. Data backup size - Between 100GB and 200GB minimum depending on several factors such as: If customer had a dedicated GIG backup network and depending on total data from all clients and what their backup windows were. 2. Do they have the infrastructure to attach clients to the SAN (Switch ports, client HBA ports ...)? 3. How critical is the data for backup? Does it need to be backed up fast or more importantly recovered fast? 4. Total impact to the backup system. At some point you have too many media servers to manage. This is both from an administrative standpoint and the ability of NetBackup to manage this load (media server communication and SSO management). As a general rule I have tried to keep media server numbers under 20 for any given master server domain. 5. You have some good points also, tape media utilization will go down dramatically. Monte -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 9:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] media server cutoff point What's their perceived problem that would lead to this rather dubious solution? -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Stump Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:12 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Veritas-bu] media server cutoff point A client is currently using 150GB as the threshold for determining whether a server should be a NetBackup media server or client. This results in 30 SAN media servers using SSO and 730 clients that are multiplexed in about 70 policies. The environment is the large STK SL8500 with 20 9940B tape drives The client is converting all NetBackup clients that have over 36GB of data into media servers. stop laughingThis is serious. Please help me demonstrate the folly of this proposal. tape-drives will be shoeshining as the media servers will not be able to get the data to the drives fast enough license fees will be astronomical for SAN media servers tape drives will not be available when needed and jobs will fail with 134/196 errors the number of tapes will increase since media servers do not share tapes The number of policies will cause bpsched to crunch continually The catalog backup will never start or finish. other reasons...please ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk backup - Storage Hardware configurations
We are currently using Clariion CX700 disk arrays for B2D. We did find that RAID-5 was the best performance for our testing. We also found that some environments performed better at 4+1 and some performed better at 7+1. We are in the process of migrating off the Clariion on to a IBM/NetApp 5500 Array. We will be dusting their RAID 6 configuration. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator 675 Basket Road Webster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w) 585-472-2360 (c) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ambrose, Monte Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:54 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Disk backup - Storage Hardware configurations I wanted to get a feel for what type of disk storage is being used out there for disk based backups. I am specifically looking for SAN attached storage ATA, SATA and what type of RAID is used and how it is performing overall. The NBU 6.0 tuning guide shows RAID-5 but I am wondering if anyone is using RAID-10 or others. Thanks, Monte - The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?
Jason, We are a big user of Aptare at our shop. It has been a fantastic product and one of the only software tools I have found that we were really able to use "out of the box". It has already helped us be able to add features, solve issues, and sell our management on new products in the 9 months since we have been using. I have found that Aptare is also very willing to listen to customer input to new feature sets. When we were looking for a monitoring tool for our backup environment, I went to several newsgroups and Aptare seemed to be what everyone was talking about. Now I know why. One demo of their product and we were hooked. Good luck with your purchase. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator -Original Message-From: Veritas[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ambrose, MonteSent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:45 PMTo: Ellis, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?JasonAptare has an agent that sits on each NetBackup master server. It receives input whenever a job completes and immediately updates the Aptare database. For running jobs it runs a bpdbjobs command on a regular basis (This is tunable). I believe we have ours set to every 5 minutes. So although it is not exactly real time, you can get it as close to real time as you want. There are several other tunable processes that pull other information such as drive/disk STU stats, tape volume information and job image catalog information.It's a great product and really easy to use out of the box. If you want more information email me direct. I would be willing to talk or email about any other questions you have. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Monte-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ellis, JasonSent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:50 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?We're looking at possibly purchasing Aptare and are wondering if anybody has used it before. It supposedly pulls data "real-time" from the environment, and I'm curious as to how it accomplishes this.http://www.aptare.com/storageconsole_overview.jspCurrently we have Bocada (http://www.bocada.com/index.php), a base install and haven't really started going into it and actually customizing the application to suit our needs.Any input on Aptare would be appreciated. Thanks!Jason___Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu___Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?
Two things, Both of these reports are out of the box reports with Aptare that we use all the time. Second, there is a 30 day demo...we used one when we considered Aptare. Just give them a call and let them know you want to demo the product. We checked out WysDM when we were looking, but the graphics we undecipherable and you had to look in too many locations to get what you needed. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator 675 Basket Road Webster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w) 585-472-2360 (c) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Brown Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:57 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare? I am also curious about this. We are a datacenter that does hosting of client servers. In with the hosting we offer data backup for our clients. Currently I have over 75 different server/client that I backup. I was looking for two things from a reporter. 1. A report that will show TBs per month per client/policy NOM does make this report but some of the TB fields are negative ?? BU Visual does this report but it does not pull past history so I have to wait 30 days to get a 30 day report 2. A way to see open backup windows so jobs can be added/moved Do not see this option in NOM BU Visual does this but the time frame it allows in its report is too large (2hr increments) and cannot see specific windows. I just left the Aptare web page, was looking for a 30 day demo of it but guess it does not exist. What else do people use ? Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ellis, Jason Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:50 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare? We're looking at possibly purchasing Aptare and are wondering if anybody has used it before. It supposedly pulls data real-time from the environment, and I'm curious as to how it accomplishes this. http://www.aptare.com/storageconsole_overview.jsp Currently we have Bocada (http://www.bocada.com/index.php), a base install and haven't really started going into it and actually customizing the application to suit our needs. Any input on Aptare would be appreciated. Thanks! Jason ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This message (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or duplication of this message by someone other than the intended addressee or their designated agent is strictly prohibited. Information included in this message that does not relate to the specified business of Worknet shall be understood as neither given by nor endorsed by Worknet or its employees. Any cost estimates or estimated quotes included in this message are considered non-binding estimates only and must not be considered final costs unless contained within an official proposal document. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Trying to implement synthetic backups
A Synthetic Full uses the same amount of space as a real full. You can save a little bit of space during the week if you use differential incremental versus cumulative incremental, but that would depend on your change rate. I personally, would not use synthetic backups in a tape environment. If you do your incremental backups to disk and only the full's to tape, that would be ok. If you try and create a synthetic full off of a weeks worth of tapes it will be cumbersome and slow. The biggest advantage for us with Synthetic full backups is that our backups that used to run for 12 hours on our client systems are now off loaded to run on the media server as the Synthetic is being created. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator 675 Basket Road Webster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w) 585-472-2360 (c) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anderson, Larry S. Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:29 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Trying to implement synthetic backups Hi all, We have NetBackup 5.1 running in a Windows 2000/2003 environment. I would like to implement synthetic backups, but have some conflicting info regarding them. Will doing synthetic backups actually save tapes, or will it use the same amount of tape as a standard Full backup? I have two different opinions being offered to me, and need to sort this out quickly. As I understood it, a Synthetic would use 1 true FULL backup, and virtually create new ones based on pointers in the catalog based on the original full, and subsequent differentials. Now I am being told that the Synthetic Full will use the same number of tapes as a traditional full, just coalesced from the original full and the differentials. Can someone who has actually implemented synthetic point me in the right direction?? Larry Anderson Senior Systems Administrator Research Computing Facility Mayo Foundation (507)538-0393 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:00 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12 Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Veritas-bu digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: NetBackup 6.0 List File? (Henry Kemp) 2. Logging problem. (David McWilliams) 3. Re: Logging problem. (H?rlimann) 4. Re: Logging problem. (David McWilliams) 5. Re: Logging problem. (Justin Piszcz) 6. Re: Logging problem. (Justin Piszcz) 7. BMR HPUX boot client failed (chodhetz) 8. Re: Logging problem. (David McWilliams) 9. Re: BMR HPUX boot client failed (Ray Schafer) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:39:57 +0100 From: Henry Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.0 List File? To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii These are the list files I used last time. # Veritas NetBackup v4.5FP6 ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB45FP6.list # Veritas NetBackup v5.1 ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB51.list # Veritas NetBackup v6.0 ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB_60.list Then you can just append the filename to the base URL above to download with wget or your favorite download tool. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wget ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB_60_Docs.tar.gz Henry On 7 Oct 2006, at 19:51, Jason Ellis wrote: Does anybody happen to have a copy of the NetBackup 6.0 list file for the Symantec blind FTP site? Thanks! -- Cheers, Jason Ellis ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Henry Kemp, NetBackup Consultant lastminute.com, 39 Victoria Street, London, SW1H 0EE, United Kingdom e: [EMAIL PROTECTED], m:07779 130 784, w: http://www.lastminute.com ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com
Re: [Veritas-bu] Client Hostnames
Title: Client Hostnames We do the same thing. Each server, including the master and media servers have two nics, each with their own name in dns. One caveat, especially with user directed or database backups, have REQUIRED_INTERFACE set on your clients and set it to the name of the nic on your backup network. If you don't, the clients may send information out on the public interface and the media server will respond on whichever network it received the request. I would also make sure your nic cards are configured to use a set speed with full duplex enabled. You could run into performance issues if you use auto-negotiate. We have always been told the FQDN are best practice, and that is what we use. Reneé Carlisle Jer 29:11-13 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hindle, GregSent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:02 PMTo: Hillman, Eric; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Client Hostnames We use fully QDN's here. We add 2 nics to each client one with its public name and the other with a private name with NBU at the end. This NBU interface is configured in the same vlan as our netbackup servers. Both names are in DNS. Greg From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hillman, EricSent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:38 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Client Hostnames We have public and backup networks. All clients have a public network which is typically 100Mb and some clients (larger clients) have a backup network which is typically GbE. This seems to be pretty typical in larger organizations. Given the above scenarios, my question is in Netbackup what do you name your clients with backup nic's? Option #1: Add a dns entry of the client name with a "-backup" suffix and assign it's backup ip. Do the same with the Master/Media server and add their -backup hostnames as additional servers from within the netbackup client software Option #2: Instead of using dns, simply add the -backup hostname client alias to the local hosts file on the Netbackup Master/Media servers and assign the backup ip. Do the same with the Master/Media server and add their -backup hostnames as additional servers from within the netbackup client software Option #3: Simply override the actual client's hostname IP with it's backup ip by adding it to the local hosts file on the Netbackup Master/Media server. Do the same with the Master/Media server in the client's hosts file and leave the non -backup hostnames as servers in the netbackup client software. This alternate method would overwrite the DNS record of the actual client and Master/Media hostnames with the hosts backup IP. Also, is it best practice to use FQDN's, or no? Thanks -Eric THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE AND ANY ATTACHMENT MAY BE PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED FROM DISCLOSURE. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of this message and any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and permanently delete it from your computer and destroy any printout thereof. This e-mail and any attachments are confidential, may contain legal, professional or other privileged information, and are intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, do not use the information in this e-mail in any way, delete this e-mail and notify the sender. CEG-IP1 The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] SSO question
Title: Message No, the other jobs would just queue if a tape drive wasn't available. Once one of the other jobs finishes on any tape drive, the job would pick up and load a tape. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator675 Basket RoadWebster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w)585-472-2360 (c) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul KeatingSent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:03 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] SSO question Assuming you have several tapes drives share among several media servers. ie, 10 drives and 3 servers. if you configure each server to see all 10 drives and then configure a STU on each server to use a max of 4 drives, you will encounter situations where there is demand for as many as 12 drives..In the instance where 2 of the media servers eachreserve 4 drives and the third server has only 2 drives available to it, does this cause all the jobsqueuedon this third server to fail with status 134??? I'm thinking that CAN'T be the caseif so, SSO would be pointless as you would only be able to create STU's to use a total global max of the number of physical drive you have, in which case you may as well do fixed assignments, and not SSO. Sorry if this seems like a stupid questionI'm not using SSO at the moment, and don't have the resources to suss it out in the lab, and I'm expecting to be deploying two additional media servers in June. Paul The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] remove devices from dead media server
Title: Message You need to remove it from the Global Device Database (I am assuming you are not on 6.0 yet). Go to Media and Device management, and expand hosts. Click on the decommissioned media server (just click on stop or cancel if it is trying to contact the media server). Go to the window with the tape drives, highlight them, right click and then delete. After that you should be able to right click on the media server name and click remove device host. You may be able to just remove the device host directly without removing the drives first, I just like to make sure it is clean. I am also assuming you have moved any tapes owned by that media server to a new host? Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator675 Basket RoadWebster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w)585-472-2360 (c) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul KeatingSent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:23 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] remove devices from dead media server ok.on a roll with stupid questions today. I had a media server in my lab, and once it was built up,and functionality tested, it just got torn down and moved. So I removed the storage units, and policys and the media server references in the master server preferences, but I forgot to remove the actual drives that were attached/configured on the media serverso now the media server is gone and the master still has references to the devicesanytime I try to access them, the GUI just spins trying to contact the missing media server, and tpconfig on the master doesn't show the devices..what's the quick and dirty way to get rid of the devices from the master? The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Hardware compression not working
We believe that our issue does lie with the driver on each individual platform. We think the IBM atdd driver will work for HP and seems to be supported by Veritas, but it is not supported for the Sun platform. What I would like to know from anyone using Solaris 9 media servers with IBM LTO2 drives is what driver are you using? You can find this by loading a tape in the drive and running the following: Mt -f /dev/rmt/drive name rew Mt -f /dev/rmt/drive name status It should come back with something like IBM ULTRIUM-LTO2. Also, what do you have in st.conf for IBM LTO 2 drives? Thanks for your help. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator 675 Basket Road Webster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w) 585-472-2360 (c) - The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Restricted Java Access
Title: Restricted Java Access Tammy, We use auth.conf exclusively and there is not a way to give read only access..it only gives you the ability, like you said, to restrict to different areas. If you want read only, I would suggest something like Aptare monitoring software which has been the best NBU reporting tool I have ever seen. www.aptare.com Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator675 Basket RoadWebster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w)585-472-2360 (c) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yosifovski, TammySent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:40 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Restricted Java Access Netbackup 5.1 MP 3 - Solaris 9 Is there a way to restrict access to read only within the Java console? It appears that the auth.conf file restricts access to parts of the admin console but not to a read only level. Thanks for your help!! Tammy Yosifovski -Thise-mailistheexclusive,privateandconfidentialpropertyofthesender.Theinformationcontainedinitisintendedsolelyfortheuseofthesenderandtheintendedrecipient.Ifyouarenottheintendedrecipientyouareherebyadvisedthatanyunauthorizeddisclosure,copying,distributionorthetakingofanyactioninrelianceonthecontentsofthismessageisstrictlyprohibited.Ifyouhavereceivedthise-mailinerror,pleasenotifyusimmediatelybytelephone(calltheTechnicalSupportCenterat1-888-873-8721)andthendestroythisdocumentandanycopiesinanyformimmediately.Finally,therecipientshouldcheckthisemailandanyattachmentsforthepresenceofviruses.Senderacceptsnoliabilityforanydamagecausedbyanyvirustransmittedbythisemail.- The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc.
RE: [Veritas-bu] Server Replacement.
Tristan, I have talked to several consultants and they said they have never gotten a rename to work in version 6.0. Their best bet was to rename the 5.x server then migrate...and even that was difficult. We tried to rename our master server when we went to 5.x and never did get it to work. Good luck. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator 675 Basket Road Webster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w) 585-472-2360 (c) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Ball Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 2:45 AM To: Anthony Tocco; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Server Replacement. I spoke to Veritas shortly after sending my email to the list, and they report that in version 6.0, it is supported, but difficult. The engineer is running through it in their lab a couple of different ways before giving me the procedure. I'll send a general description to the list after I get it. In your suggestion, it sounds like I'd need to have the Shared Storage option so I could share the LTO library between the two servers? It would also mean that I have to pay for another another Netbackup server license, which is something I'm trying to avoid. T. -Original Message- From: Anthony Tocco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 21 April 2006 2:42 PM To: Tristan Ball; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Server Replacement. Actually Tristan you should be able to do the following. Ask Veritas about it then let me know if you will. Since 6.0 uses and EMM server you can have multiple Masters in the same environment. I would build the new Master Server and Media server environment using the existing EMM server and then migrate your Clients to the new Servers the only thing is you will keep what aver server is currently running the EMM server. During the client transfer you should be able to use the update_client command to update the BP.conf. Let me know how it turns out what ever way you do it please. Tony Tocco [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Ball Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:00 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Server Replacement. Does anyone have a suggestion for the following scenario that avoids the difficulties in renaming a NB Master server? We're upgrading, our old environment looks like this: Server 1: Solaris 8 Samba File Server Netbackup 6.0mp2 Master Server. HVD SCSI DLT7000 Library (legacy backups) FC LTO-3 Library (current Backups). Our target environment: All servers are now Blades, ie, they have FC connections, but no SCSI. Server A (With Server 1's name) RHEL 4.0 Samba File Server Server B RHEL 4.0 Netbackup Master Server FC LTO-3 Library (current backups) Server 1 (Under a new name) Solaris 8 Netbackup Master SCSI DLT7000 (Legacy Backups only) I had thought to simply move Netbackup to Server B, Samba to Server A, and rename Server 1. That would have given me a transparent upgrade for my users, a separate Backup server (finally), and I could have kept the old server in the corner for legacy recoveries, which would have also given me a nice reason to split my netbackup catalog between to servers, and hence speed up current backup catalg searches. I've discovered that the only way to do this in a Veritas supported manner, is to move Netbackup to Server A so the hostname doesn't change, then buy a SCSI-HVD router ($$) to connect the old library to the new server. Does anyone have any better ideas? I'm going to talk to Veritas today about doing the rename, but from the sounds of things, it'ss going to be even more painfull in Version 6.0 than it was in 4.x and 5.x. Thanks, Tristan ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Hardware compression not working
Title: Message I checked all that and it looks good. Sg.conf is identical, major numbers and minor number convention on the HP looks the same (they don't exist on sun) no mention of compression or errors in bptm. Our issue is that if we don't figure this out by Friday, we will be out of tapes. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator675 Basket RoadWebster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w)585-472-2360 (c) From: Whelan, Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 10:04 AMTo: Carlisle, D ReneeSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Hardware compression not working I guess I would look at the bptm log files on the two systems and look for differences. Also look at /dev/rmt and see if the major/minor numbers agree between the systems. Are sg.conf files the same? And lastly, keep asking this group, someone may have a real answer. J Regards, Patrick Whelan NetBackup Specialist Architect Engineering +44 20 7863 5243 Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most! - Unknown -Original Message-From: Carlisle, D Renee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2006 14:57To: Whelan, Patrick; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Hardware compression not working LTO 1 tapes are filling up at about 100 gig of data and LTO 2 tapes are filling up at 200 Gig of data. In our STK environment close to 200 gig on our LTO1 tapes in the STK environment. The data has not changed. The data between production and test is the same. Our performance in production is maxing 35 mb/sec...which should be higher with compression. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator675 Basket RoadWebster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w)585-472-2360 (c) The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc.
RE: RE: [Veritas-bu] Hardware compression not working
I answered the compression issue in a previous post, we definitely are not getting compression. The reason I mentioned the library is that it does not seem to be at the hardware level since the tapes are obviously compressing on the test side of the world and we are using the same library. IBM, Sun, and Veritas are all involved right now (even though it is across HP, Sun, and Windows), but everyone is scratching their heads. Just trying to think outside the box now. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator 675 Basket Road Webster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w) 585-472-2360 (c) -Original Message- From: bob944 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:20 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Cc: Carlisle, D Renee Subject: RE: RE: [Veritas-bu] Hardware compression not working Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:42:58 -0400 From: Carlisle, D Renee [EMAIL PROTECTED] What makes you believe that hardware compression is not working? I'd suggest proving the compression assertion first, then getting support people for the drive/library/drivers involved. - The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Moving tapes from one media server to another
Title: Moving tapes from one media server to another Use vault if you have it, otherwise you will need to script bpduplicate to duplicate all the images you want to remain in site1. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator675 Basket RoadWebster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w)585-472-2360 (c) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hindle, GregSent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:31 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Moving tapes from one media server to another Just to add more detail. I need to move media from one media server to another but need to keep the data at the original site. For example I have site 1 and 2. I need to move data from site 1 to site 2 but need to copy the data off the of the tape that is moving to a tape at site 1 that is not moving. What is the best way to do this? Greg From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hindle, GregSent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:12 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Moving tapes from one media server to another Nb5.0 mp6 Solaris 9 Does anyone have a script that does this task easily? Also what is the best way to handle this? Greg This e-mail and any attachments are confidential, may contain legal, professional or other privileged information, and are intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, do not use the information in this e-mail in any way, delete this e-mail and notify the sender. CEG-IP1 The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc.
[Veritas-bu] NBU versus TSM
I am being mandated to look at other options outside of Netbackup since it is budget time and the support maintenance dollars just hit my boss' desk. I was curious if anyone here switched fromTSM to Netbackup and how you would compare each product? Thanks for your insights. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator675 Basket RoadWebster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w)585-472-2360 (c) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carlisle, D ReneeSent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:44 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] NBU versus Legato I am being mandated to look at other options outside of Netbackup since it is budget time and the support maintenance dollars just hit my boss' desk. I was curious if anyone here switched from Legato to Netbackup and how you would compare each product? Thanks for your insights. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator675 Basket RoadWebster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w)585-472-2360 (c) The information contained in this message may be privileged,confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of thismessage is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agentresponsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient,you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, orcopying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you havereceived this communication in error, please notify us immediatelyby replying to the message and deleting it from your computer.Thank you. Paychex, Inc.
RE: [Veritas-bu] Q re media server how-to
Jeff, We have a Solaris master server and 15 media servers all using SSO. It is pretty easy to set up the tape drives. The media manager configuration guide will also walk you through it. We find the easiest way is to use the configure storage devices wizard. Make sure that the master server is the first entry in the bp.conf file for the media server and that the media server is in the master servers bp.conf file (this will require bouncing NBU on the master server to acknowledge the new entry). Then just run the wizard adding in your media server as a new system. As long as your media server can see the tape drives it should set it all up for you. Make sure the media server is zoned to the tape drives. There is a utility called scan under /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/goodies. If you run that and it can see all the tape drives, then the wizard should work for you. Hope this helps. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator 675 Basket Road Webster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w) 585-472-2360 (c) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Dykzeul Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:55 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Q re media server how-to I am looking for suggestions about setting up a media server. My experience with NBU is limited to a single master/media server with multiple clients, all attached to a public IP network, but my new NBU environment is somewhat different: - Solaris master/media server, attached to public network and a SAN - 2 Solaris media servers, attached to public network and a SAN - Numerous UNIX Windows clients, all on public network - Tape library with LTO3 drives attached to the SAN There is one SAN. The media servers have storage on the SAN dedicated to them and they function as file servers for clients which need disk space. I have already set up the master/media server (NBU 6.0) and successfully tested backups/restores of itself and a public network client using the SAN-attached tape drives in the library. My next step is to set up a media server so that it can backup itself and its SAN-attached storage to the SAN-attached tape drives resident in the tape library. I have installed NBU 6.0 and the SAN media server license on the first media server. It's not obvious to me how to move forward at this point. I need to make the tape drives visible to the media server and configure a policy for running backups on the media server. I am assuming that this policy will exist on the master server. I also have the SSO option so it is my understanding that the media server should be able to use any of the tape drives rather than a dedicated subset. Is there a particular manual which describes how to do all this? Any suggestions are welcome. Jeff Dykzeul Raytheon Space Airborne Systems ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NBU versus Legato
I am being mandated to look at other options outside of Netbackup since it is budget time and the support maintenance dollars just hit my boss' desk. I was curious if anyone here switched from Legato to Netbackup and how you would compare each product? Thanks for your insights. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator675 Basket RoadWebster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w)585-472-2360 (c) The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc.
RE: [Veritas-bu] Disk backup - Storage Hardware configurations
We are just starting to set up DSU storage and have completed some extensive performance tests. So far, we have found RAID5 4+1 works best with our file system (small files) backups and RAID3 4+1 works best with our database and raw backups. There is still some testing going on as far as buffer settings, we are between 256k and 512K buffer settings and are still not sure which is going to work out best for us. These tests have all just been done in a test environment, we won't know if we have to tweak anything for production for another month or so. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator675 Basket RoadWebster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w)585-472-2360 (c) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:57 AMTo: Ambrose, MonteCc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk backup - Storage Hardware configurations Hi Monte, I did one install with EMC DMX1000 disk with hardware mirroring used for a DSSU and I have to say I found performance wasn't great. Worse than LTO2 performance but this was writing to a fairly small number of physical drives, though performance wasn't an issue so I didn't spend a lot of time tuning it, cheers Andy. "Ambrose, Monte" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23/03/2006 01:54 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc: Subject:[Veritas-bu] Disk backup - Storage Hardware configurationsI wanted to get a feel for what type of disk storage is being used out there for disk based backups. I am specifically looking for SAN attached storage ATA, SATA and what type of RAID is used and how it is performing overall. The NBU 6.0 tuning guide shows RAID-5 but I am wondering if anyone is using RAID-10 or others. Thanks, Monte The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc.
RE: [Veritas-bu] Decommission
Can you do a bprecover to a different server then move the media from there? Either that, or set the master server up as the alternate restore server for that media server. It should then be able to do restores, but it might leave you with some issues with expiring the images. Good luck. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator 675 Basket Road Webster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w) 585-472-2360 (c) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:49 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Decommission I have a Windows 2003 media server that I want to decommission. The media server has some issues; hence I can no longer backup the server using its own storage-unit, I am now using the Master servers storage unit. I've decommissioned media servers before, but never one in this state. My main concern here is moving the media or how to handle the media in case it's needed at some future point in time. When I run the bpmedia -bpmove command the I get an error message that the media is not found in the DB; no doubt due to issues with the media server. I don't own the media server so I cannot fix; a political thing. Any recommendations or ramifications? Again my focus is to move the media, then decommission the media server. Thanks - PLEASE NOTE: The preceding information may be confidential or privileged. It only should be used or disseminated for the purpose of conducting business with Parker. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender by replying to this message and then delete the information from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
