[Veritas-bu] Queued duplication jobs churning - tape mounts increasing
We had some recent hardware issues with tape robot and had to re-do robotics config on NBU. Meanwhile we had storage unit marked as inactive for the SLPs using that robot for a duplication stage. Now that the storage unit has been marked as active we have about 300 queued duplication jobs and it looks like after each image copy in the active duplication job finishes the job gets superseded by another backup job which unmounts the tape and remounts it then does 1 image. This is making duplication performance really bad and the tape mounts for the active media are going through the roof. They go from 0 to about 400 before media fills up. We didn't have this issue before the robotics reconfig I don't think. Scratching my head on this one. It may go back to a change in behavior after an upgrade from 7.1.0.3 to 7.5.0.4 also Info on the storage unit config. Dell ML6010 with 2 LTO4 drives presented to 2 media servers There is a 2 host SUG with the 2 drives. The target media group has max non-full media set to 2 At any time, I am seeing 4 active duplication jobs oscillating with no drive available with normally only 1 active at any given time due to unmount/remount overhead. Obviously only 2 can actually be writing to media at any given time. I tried taking one of the hosts out of the SUG, but that didn't help, still have 4 active jobs juking it out for the 2 drives and thrashing the robot and media mounts. Anyone have a suggestion? This is killing the robot and lifecycle policy windows. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Post upgrade 7.5.0.5 issues?
So what is the verdict on 7.5.0.5? I am looking to upgrade 7.1.0.3 to 7.5.0.5 W2K8 master, using vstorage API backups of 5.0 esx, and KMS for managing LTO4 encryption keys, and DDBoost for data domain OST disk pools. I want to update esx to 5.1 and allow for SQL 2012 and windows server 2012. ___ David Stanaway - da...@stanaway.net ___ On May 20, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Rusty Major rusty.ma...@sungard.com wrote: I would say if you aren't having the issue with NBSL, I would not patch it. The only damage we see with it is a Java UI that won't load completely and failures with OpsCenter to connect to the Master. Jobs continue to run and kick off as expected, we just can't manage them through the UI. -Rusty On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Lavelle, Michael F michael.f.lave...@abbott.com wrote: All, 7.5.0.6 has been rescheduled for late June. The new CEO of Symantec is aware of declining reliability and increases in EEB creation. We are running three NetBackup 7.5.0.5 domains under RedHat 5 (2.6.18-348) and VCS 5.0. We are running with two EEBs installed: ET3106719 – the ghost jobs issue which replaces nbjobd ET3156426 – image catalog filesystem grows dramatically thru failure to properly clean the old files This replaces nbpem bpdbm We also need to upgrade past VCS 5.0. VCS had been masking the “largefiles” option of VxFS and the BMR_DATA.db file grep to 2 GB in the primary UNIX domain. Instance crashed since it could not extend the BMR database. Recovered OK – thanks to Matthew in Australia. We also have a work around for the VCS mask of “largefiles”. We really need 7.5.0.6 for Windows Server 2012 support. This is really not funny. This proliferation was needed before the end of the year. That if flunked out of 7.5.0.5 and requires 7.5.0.6 is bad enough. The funny thing is that the 7.5.0.6 release is now being delayed because the new Symantec CEO smells the quality of what has been released in recent years (needed features, but new and unexpected bugs along with the new code), and is demanding actual engineering qualification of code releases. Here’s hoping NBU 7.6 is delayed longer and for the same good reasons. Rusty, If you were me, and I already am running with two EEBs, and have not experienced the NBSL crash and core dump, would you prophylactically apply EEB ET3123001 on top of the others? I do not want to run a regression testing lab for Symantec. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Rusty Major Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:26 PM To: Kohli, Vidit Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Post upgrade 7.5.0.5 issues? Don't wait, there is a fix for the NBSL issues. You might want to call support to make sure you get the right EEB for your issue as there is more than one. -Rusty On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Kohli, Vidit vidit.ko...@blackrock.com wrote: There is major bug in 7.5.0.5 as per Symantec, so better wait for 7.5.0.6 nbsl experiences a memory leak which results in a core dump. http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH201979 Product The following versions of NetBackup are affected by this issue: NetBackup 7.5.0.5 Summary The nbsl daemon crashes intermittently and creates a core dump. It was observed that memory consumed by nbsl was constantly growing, and when it reached somewhere around 4GB, nbsl would crash. This issue is scheduled to be addressed in the following release: · NetBackup 7.5 Maintenance Release 6 (7.5.0.6) From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Justin Piszcz Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:13 PM To: 'Dwayne Adams'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Post upgrade 7.5.0.5 issues? Hi, Unsure for Windows, for Linux/64-bit and 7.5.0.5: Yes there is a problem with ghost jobs: (you will see 100s-1000s of jobs Active but they really complete) This EEB fixes that issue: https://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH203521 Justin. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dwayne Adams Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:52 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Post upgrade 7.5.0.5 issues? Hello, I am starting to plan for a 7.5 upgrade from 6.5.6 in an environment that I am consulting at for the next few months. Has anyone run into any major bugs or issues with 7.5.0.5 after the upgrade? I am
Re: [Veritas-bu] VMWare Backup Maximum number of LUNS that can be presented to windows 2008 R2
HLU 255 maybe a windows limit. We have 4 paths per LUN on the backup vStorage API server, and probably around 30 LUNs zoned across 3 target arrays. No issues so far. I would like to know what the vStorage API or NBU maximums are though. On 7/27/2012 9:35 AM, Anurag Sharma wrote: VMWare Backup Maximum number of LUNS that can be presented to windows 2008 R2 Hi All, This is the configuation of our NetBackup Master Server Operating System :Windows 2008 R2 Standard x64 Processor : Intel Xeon 3.6o GHz x64 RAM : 12GB We are in the process of implementing vstorage Backup with NetBackup. In order to use SAN transport medium we would need to present all ESX luns Currently our ESX infrastructre has 200 LUNS. *Would it be possible to present 200 LUNS on this box ? This box will be our VMware Backup host* As per windows fourms there is no limit as longs as we dont give them drive letter. We have automount and auto scrub disabled as well Anyone who has done Vstorage/VCB implemntation please share best practices ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade NetBackup from 6.5.6 (x86) to 7.1.0.4 (x64)
Here is a back of napkin idea that may be worthwhile. NBU upgrade from 6.5 to 7.0 and 7.0 to 7.1 were not very painful at all in my experience. On of the new things you get in 7.1 I think is SLPs that can duplicate images to a different master server. You may be able to upgrade you 6.5 env to 7.1.0.4 and have a fresh clean build of your new environment (May help to clean up some annoyng naming conventions or policy names or configurationg that annoy you with your existing config). You could then find a way to get your images you want to migrate to the new env into an SLP that duplicates to another master or otherwise copy the images between masters. On 6/1/2012 11:27 AM, Anurag Sharma wrote: Hi Team, We have one netbackup master server which is on x86 windows 2003 running netbackup 6.5.6 with two tape libraries LTO2/LTO3 respectively. We have procured a new mastter server which is on 064 windows 2008 R2 with netbackup 7.1.0.4 with EMC data domain DD890. Now we have to migrate all the backups from old master server to the new master server. I have following questions Is it possible to migrate netbackup from one hardware to another ? I know the the netbackup master serve name has to be the same but can it have a differnet IP ??? I was thinking first upgrading the exisisting server to 7.5 and connect it to data domain and move all the backups to data domain storage units and then migrate to new hardware. Is this the right approach or is there a better approach.?? Please guide many of you might have upgraded from 6.5. Please through ideas. Anurag ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NDMP restore issues OST - Celerra (VNX5700)
We are having some issues testing a restore of a 1.4TB EMC Celerra PFS backup The backup was done with vbb format and no DAR (set HIST=n), filesystem has approx 20 million files and 1.4TB. Backup was to an OST storage unit via network. I have tried recreating the restore filesystem twice. The first restore looks like it restored all the data, but was part way through a second pass restoring ACLs and then eventually aborted (2813). Error ndmpagent(pid=) aborting operation - no mover progress Error ndmpagent(pid=) NDMP restore failed from path /root_vmx_X/fsmount_Y Info ndmpagent(pid=) done. status: 5 restored image xxx.x.xxx_ - (file read failed(13)); restore time 1 00:05:17 end Restore; elapsed time: 1 00:05:17 NDMP policy restore error(2813) I wiped and recreated the recovery filesystem and started a second restore, and got the same error, but at a different time, and the data hadn't appeared to have completed being restore yet, (it was about 1/10th through) and it hadn't applied any windows ACLs. I am thinking it is a datamover ndmp agent issue on the NAS side, but not really getting traction either way. Has anyone ran into this in their own environment? I am just glad it is a test restore so I can take my time. We don't have any issues with similar restores for smaller volumes (500G, smaller number of files), also without DAR. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP restore issues OST - Celerra (VNX5700)
On 5/10/2012 6:27 PM, David Stanaway wrote: aborting operation - no mover progress http://www.symantec.com/connect/forums/ndmp-restore-failed Hmmm. STFW, I will. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] SLP with Synthetic backups - What are people doing for workarounds?
I am happy to report this was seemingly silently fixed in 7.1 (At least in 7.1.0.3), the only oddity is that each backup job seems to spawn it's own SLP duplication job, so you will see hundreds of SLP duplication jobs queued. Now can anyone say if SLP and GRT backups are going to work correctly in 7.1 ? On 3/16/2010 8:02 AM, David Stanaway wrote: I'm getting very frustrated about having to re-invent the wheel to reproduce the functionality of Storage Lifecycle Policies for my Synthetic Full backups. For those not aware, Synthetic backup images for some dumb reason that hasn't been explained to me cannot be managed by an SLP and you will get dataloss if you backup to an SLP and expect it to execute the policy. The backup will go to the Backup destination, but that is it. No duplications. I am working on some scripts to re-produce the functionality of SLP since Vault is not adequate as I have hierarchical duplications that are not possible with a vault job. It is going to take a little time to get right, and I can't help but think this must have been done before. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Backups on DataDomain.
You can do NDMP backups to OST via LAN transport to the media server. All you need to do is setup your ndmp credentials in NBU and on your NAS device. At least this worked for me with a VNX-File NDMP backup. If you want to transport NDMP backups via SAN to the DATADOMAIN, then you would need the VTL license/HBA on the datadomain. On 1/3/2012 2:28 PM, Anurag Sharma wrote: Hi Team, I have been given this task to move the NDMP backups from one master server to another. The current master server backups up NDMP to CDL (Clariion Disk Libraries) typical environment via SAN. Now the new master server has no TL/VTL/CDL its just has Datadomain used as netbackup openstorage device. Now my question is this . Do I have to procure VTL license from DATADOMAIN in order to do NDMP backups ? If I do NDMP backups to Datadomain open storage device will it have any performance implications ? Another point that crossed my mind is this : openstorage backups would be via LAN not via SAN would that reduce the speed of ndmp backups to great levels ? Anyone who has implement Netbackup NDMP backups on Datadomain please provide me with their valueable inputs. Regards Anurag ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.1.0.3
If you are in a CPU dense, memory lean environment, the vSphere Enterprise for 6 core CPUs is a good reason. Similar for SRM. I'm awaiting 7.1.0.3 to get fully baked to test/deploy myself. On 12/20/2011 11:16 AM, . . wrote: Anyone else being pressured to upgrade to 7.1.0.3 to support vSphere5 or Exchange 2010 SP2? I tried looking through the release notes, but I can't find exactly what 7.1.0.3 won't support. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere it was clustered datastores and the new filesystem. Is there a restriction with hardware level 8? I'm not sure why our VMware folks are itching to upgrade, since the only new filesystem advantage I see is datastores that 2 TB? I would be nice if we can have a list of what works and what doesn't with regards to vSphere 5 and the 7.1.0.3 release. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 7.0.1 restore
On 12/8/2011 2:13 PM, mpjames wrote: I can't make this restore work - and it's possible that it can't be done. But here goes. Our SAN was originally presented as a mapped drive on a Windows server. So we had MS-WINDOWS policy types for backing up content. Now we have a new SAN with NDMP backup accelerator. Is there a way to successfully redirect my restores to the new NDMP appliance? I have a feeling that it can't be done. NBU 7.0.1 running on RHEL4. Mike You will probably need to setup the nb_client service on a windows server used to perform the restore to use a domain account that is granted Restore permission on the NAS filesystem and Full access to the share, then you can redirect the restore to a UNC path onto the NAS location. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] veritas netbackup 6.5 encrypt backup tape
On 11/30/2011 11:02 AM, smpt wrote: • Disaster recovery is not supported with encrypted backups. Therefore you must not encrypt backups used for Disaster Recovery restore This is true only if you do not replicate the keys. With library KMS you must have a replicated KMS and with netbackup KMS you have to replicate or backup the keys (unencrypted backup) The NBU KMS db is small and static (Only changes when you run the kms commands to move keys through lifecycle stages, or add new keys). This is easy to keep synchronized with your recovery master server provided you have network connectivity. If you need to do tape transport only to your recovery site, you may need to devise another way to have the keys available for personnel to enter. You need to know the keygroup names, the passphrase that generates the key and the key tag, and you can re-enter them into KMS on the bare install master before starting the catalog recovery. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] veritas netbackup 6.5 encrypt backup tape
On 11/29/2011 12:59 AM, novice123 wrote: Dear All, During a risk assessment exercise, I realized that my backup admin does not encrypt data in backup tapes. He argues, it is not required as an adversary cannot recover/read data from the backup tape, assuming its stolen, if he does not have the corresponding catalog. He further adds that catalog is kept secure. We are using Veritas netbackup 6.5. I am unfamiliar with the technology, hence would want to know the following: a) If catalogs are secure, why should the software have a feature for encrypting data in the backup tape? You can always import images from a tape. Takes a while. Its also extractable even without NBU involved, esp if not multiplexed. This isn't true. I encrypt my backups AND catalogs. (Just make sure you have hard copy of KMS keys in the safe). LTO4 hardware encyption isn't too much of a performance hit for the piece of mind. b) If the argument is invalid, how can an adversary read/recover the data from the stolen backup tapes, even if he does not have the catalog. Please help in articulating the risk. mt to position to each file, then tar. or if you have NBU, import the tape. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain, Replication and Two Backup Applications
We have some appliances with a proprietary backup that backup to a replicated CIFS share. It is all in the same 'disk pool' on the datadomain. The NBU OST 'files' are in a directory for the lsu under /ost on the 'filesystem' This is on the DD660, perhaps a different story on the larger units, but on mine its all sharing the same dedupe pool. With OST, NBU manages the optimized duplication. With the CIFS share, the DD handles the replication of the directory underneath the share. On 11/23/2011 9:46 PM, redfireball wrote: Quick question to all Data Domain experts... Can you use a data domain appliance for two backup applications by carving out logical disk space and assigning it separately and replicating it to another appliance at DR site? Target site has same appliance with same capacity n same logical partitioning. Thanks in advance n Happy Thanksgiving. +-- |This was sent by redfireb...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Why System State
How about vStorage CBT differentials? Anyone actually have a problem with the registry, certificate store etc not coming back to the point in time of the differential backup? I am torn if I should keep doing my incremental /synthetics including system state as well as periodic vStorage fulls, or go all in except some key systems that keep their main dynamic state in the system state area (Like CA Services, AD, RDS systems), and agent backups for SQL, Exchange, Sharepoint. On 11/23/2011 9:56 PM, redfireball wrote: To start with... 1.Windows Security - You wont get windows security back during restore without system state backups 2.Registry - You wont get windows registry back during restore without system state backups. Again to start with - Failure to restore registry will leave your applications impaired with no services to look to and thus restored apps will never work. There are several other scenarios which basically come down to apps running on a particular server. If you can afford to lose these things then you dont need system state backups. Once example is of simple file servers where data is the most important and security can be rebuilt if lost during recovery. Thanks. +-- |This was sent by redfireb...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU catalog on NAS/SAN
I am fairly certain SAN LUNs are explicitly supported and infact that allows one of the new DR protections for the master made available for 7.0. I have it bookmarked at the office. On 11/15/2011 4:11 PM, Lightner, Jeff wrote: In point of fact it only says NO to NFS/CIFS.The original question also asked about SAN as well and I don't know of any prohibition against that but as others have noted you'd want to make sure the disk array used is backed up to other locations because if the array fails you'd lose both your other data and the catalog you need to restore that data. *From:*veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *Sanders, Nate *Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2011 3:44 PM *To:* w...@maine.edu *Cc:* VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU catalog on NAS/SAN Yeah that was pretty much what I figured. *From:*Wayne T Smith [mailto:wtsm...@maine.edu] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2011 2:33 PM *To:* Sanders, Nate (DS) *Cc:* VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU catalog on NAS/SAN http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH16116 http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH16116 says No. http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH33326 http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH33326 says No. Cheers, Wayne On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Sanders, Nate sande...@dmotorworks.com mailto:sande...@dmotorworks.com wrote: What's the best practice on moving the NBU master catalog to an NFS mount or a SAN share? With all the drama going on around our catalog size and the new Isilon, I'm beginning to wonder if we'll out grow out current master servers local disk soon. I'll be digging through Symantec PDFs, but thought I would throw it out here for you all as well. My obvious concerns are I/O. In our environment I would say we usually have no more than 30 active jobs (including children) running at a time. Our average is probably 10 or less, with bursts of 30. -- Nate SandersSr. System Administrator Digital Motorworks, Inc (512) 692 - 1038 tel:%28512%29%20692%20-%201038 This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Athena®, Created for the Cause^(TM) Making a Difference in the Fight Against Breast Cancer - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] vmware api backups
If you are doing any MSCS clusters you will have to use client based backups for them. For Windows guests, you can do file level vStorage restores from vmware API proxy backups. It is a flash backup so if it is a large VM, restoring just 1 file might take a little bit longer than a traditional backup. If you have any Linux guests, I think you will need NBU 7.1 to do file level restores and I imagine there are some restrictions on filesystems and LVM config. You will probably need a combination of both. Agent based backups for databases and exchange and systems where you are particularly interested in consistent backups with incremental backups (EG: AD). On 10/31/2011 10:48 AM, Howard Graylin wrote: Are any of y'all doing backups of your vmware guests (windows) using the vmware api within Netbackup? If so, what do you think of it as opposed to installing the client on the guest itself? I've read some of the documentation and I'm confused as to whether or not I need to use the api for file level restores or the vcb stuff for it? And last, how many guests are you backing up and how many windows media servers do you use for this? Emailed our NBU reps to get a meeting with them, but also wanted some real world advice as well. Also, thanks to those of you that responded to my email about Exchange 2010. It's working like a champ now. Howard Howard Graylin | System Administrator III | C Spire Wireless 6019747719 office Cellular South is now C Spire Wireless Please note that my new email address is hgray...@cspire.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 84 - plugin error
We have seem similar issues when we exceed the max streams on the DD system. Synth jobs take up 3 streams, duplication jobs take up 2 streams, so you need to be careful with the max jobs on the storage unit. If this is happening you will see messages logged in your daily autosupports (No alerts, logged messages) Something like this: Current Alerts -- No active alerts. Recent Alerts and Log Messages -- Sep 4 11:01:34 DDOM ddfs[26313]: WARNING: MSG-RPC-1: Rejected 242505 connection attempts to port 2049 in the last 10039 minutes. Sep 4 11:11:34 DDOM ddfs[26313]: WARNING: MSG-RPC-1: Rejected 274829 connection attempts to port 2049 in the last 10 minutes. Sep 4 11:21:35 DDOM ddfs[26313]: WARNING: MSG-RPC-1: Rejected 369665 connection attempts to port 2049 in the last 10 minutes. Sep 4 11:31:36 DDOM ddfs[26313]: WARNING: MSG-RPC-1: Rejected 417173 connection attempts to port 2049 in the last 10 minutes. Sep 4 11:48:53 DDOM ddfs[26313]: WARNING: MSG-RPC-1: Rejected 256045 connection attempts to port 2049 in the last 17 minutes. Do you have more than one OST device with SLP and opt-dupe as well? There are some tweaks needed to make sure the correct media server is used for duplication and synthetic fragment reads if this is the case, which if you don't do, you will likely be clogging up your WAN link with non-optimized backup traffic. On 10/19/2011 2:06 PM, jack.fores...@mylan.com wrote: We've been having jobs fail with a status 84 seemingly at random. These jobs are being written to a DataDomain 890 configured as an OST target for the backups. Both of the media servers in the environment (one AIX and one Windows) are seeing these failures. Since NetBackup is reporting a plugin error, we've engaged DataDomain technical support in addition to Symantec technical support. These are the messages we see in the job details: 10/18/2011 17:52:31 - Critical bptm (pid=30605402) image write failed: error 2060046: plugin error 10/18/2011 17:52:31 - Critical bptm (pid=30605402) sts_get_image_prop failed: error 2060046: plugin error 10/18/2011 17:52:31 - Critical bptm (pid=30605402) image delete failed: error 2060046: plugin error 10/18/2011 17:52:38 - Error bptm (pid=30605402) cannot write image to disk, Invalid argument 10/18/2011 17:52:38 - Info bptm (pid=30605402) EXITING with status 84 -- Other vitals: NetBackup version: 7.1.0.2 OST Plugin: 2.3.1.0 DDOS: 5.0.0.7-226726 Anyone else have a similar problem? -- Jack Forester, Jr. Sr. Data Protection Administrator Global Technology Services - AHS Mylan, Inc. 5005 Greenbag Road Morgantown, WV 26501 jack.fores...@mylan.com Phone: +1.304.554.6039 Cell: +1.412.805.5313 == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged, proprietary and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution, duplication or other use of this message and/or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message and its attachments. Thank you. == ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Syncsort NSB vs Netbackup?
When did this get announced? I have been bugging our EMC Backup rep about this, I would have figured they would have been all over giving me the news. On 9/30/2011 1:14 AM, smpt wrote: Hello, Just a hint. If you will use NBU and DD with BOOST, the synthetic backups are instant. NO reading and writing to device. In fact this is a future of all OST devices. stefanos -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of dejohn61 Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 1:56 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Syncsort NSB vs Netbackup? Hi Ken, Yes I would have to use there snap capabilities with the dedup so I believe they consider that synthetic fulls. after the initial full data set. I am pushing for a Data Domain solution the dedup ratio is much better, and to answer your second question, That is one of my main arguments is getting rid of media servers to let the clients do all the work in our environment is really scary thought. So out of the 2 responses I received, I am very comfortable staying with NBU and a DD dedup solution. We also would have stuff we could not move over like AIX oracle and AIX Unix Thanks for your input and any other Syncsort info is more than welcome Don Two questions for you: 1) Do/Would you use synthetic fulls (Syncsort does incrementals forever)? 2) Do your clients have the horsepower to handle source side deduplication? We could not move as there are some legacy systems they do not fully support in our environment. Ken -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu- bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of dejohn61 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 4:56 PM To: VERITAS-BU at MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Syncsort NSB vs Netbackup? I would like to know if anyone has any information on Syncsort NSB? Pro's and Con's, would anyone consider leaving Netbackup to go to Syncsort NSB on NetApp in a large enterprise? +-- |This was sent by don.john...@watson.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Regenerate Vault Reports
On 9/13/2011 4:18 PM, Sanders, Nate wrote: Is it possible to regenerate vault report emails? We have NBU Enterprise 7.0.1 and the matching OpsCenter. I need to regenerate the Detailed Distribution List for Vaults from June and July. Or, I just need to grab these files from disk or backups. Any suggestions? Take a look in \Veritas\NetBackup\vault\sessions\name\sidN\* I have 1 month worth on disk there, the rest would be in backups of my master server. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Exchange GRT Backups
We have no issues with GRT Sharepoint restores from OST (At least on 6.5.4 and 7.0.1 with DataDomain OST). What doesn't work is SLP or duplication. You will want to have non GRT backups as well if you want optimized offsite duplicates or tape copies. I didn't bother with exchange GRT since if we have to back it up twice, we have insufficient maint window for exchange maintenance tasks. Symantec, please give NBU GRT and SLP some interoperability, also while at it, fix the Synthetic Full and SLP interoperability. On 9/8/2011 8:38 AM, Lightner, Jeff wrote: We were advised that no deduplication appliance works with GRT restores so even if the backup appeared to work you wouldnt be able to restore owing to the fact that the data is deduplicated so isnt really browseable for restores. We didnt try the basic storage unit on DD or Quantum DXi we moved to SAN storage presented to our master and made a storage unit for that. We still had issues with GRT restores afterwards. We had recently migrated to Exchange 2010 from Exchange 2003 and apparently there is a known issue at Symantec on converted data they sent us a binary fix to resolve that issue. We never went back to try DD or DXi after that mainly because the Exchange admin was sick of dealing with it. This was all in NBU 7.1. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Klebba, Don Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:30 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Exchange GRT Backups Im trying to do a exchange 2010 GRT backup to a Data Domain appliance. We have data domain appliances that we backup to. Symantec is telling me that Open Storage (data domain) storage units are not supported with GRT. I tried backing up to a basic storage unit on the data domain and still cant get it working. Has anyone had any experience getting GRT working with Data Domain? Thanks Don Klebba Quicken Loans Inc. Centrailized Storage Engineer 1050 Woodward Ave. Detroit, MI. 48226 (313) 373-4263 Proud partner. Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to
Re: [Veritas-bu] Dedupe ratios and checkpoint backups
Checkpoints create a new file for each checkpoint. On 9/7/2011 1:17 PM, Rusty Major wrote: I have always understood it that Checkpoints were saved in a log on the client and, therefore, wouldn't affect dedupe ratios at all. I haven't ever verified that, nor did a quick search yield anything. -Rusty *From:*veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *Lightner, Jeff *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:23 PM *To:* scott.geo...@parker.com mailto:scott.geo...@parker.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] Dedupe ratios and checkpoint backups Haven't done any comparisons but we use checkpoint for our big ERP DB (near 6 TB) backup and still get good compression ratios. There is nothing that has made me think I need to look at it or tweak it to get better. I'd say the benefit of not having to restart a huge backup from scratch offered by checkpoints would outweigh deduplication ratio issues unless you have infinite time to run backups. *From:*veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *scott.geo...@parker.com mailto:scott.geo...@parker.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:06 PM *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] Dedupe ratios and checkpoint backups To answer your question, we tested both the NBU 5000 (Symantec) and the DD860 (Data Domain) and the differences couldn't be more stark. I was using a 30 minute checkpoint interval. I never achieved anything better than 15:1 from the NBU5000 (which isn't bad). The DD860 hit 39:1 at the time I disabled all of the policies. This was running daily full backups on an array of different servers (DB2, Windows file servers, UNIX file servers, and Siebel app servers) over the course of 2 months. The NBU5000 is a fixed block device, the DD860 a variable block device. There is no way of knowing if checkpoints were the culprit for the NBU5000 getting the lesser ratio, but it does present a plausible theory. From: scott.geo...@parker.com mailto:scott.geo...@parker.com To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Date: 09/06/2011 02:54 PM Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Dedupe ratios and checkpoint backups Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu If at all, this would probably affect fixed-block solutions more than the variable-block ones. The variable-blocked solutions would continue to look for identical blocks, but in different positions of the data stream. From: Stafford, Geoff gstaff...@barclaycardus.com mailto:gstaff...@barclaycardus.com To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Date: 09/06/2011 02:45 PM Subject: [Veritas-bu] Dedupe ratios and checkpoint backups Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Just wondering if anyone has done testing or seen documentation (from any dedupe vendor) regarding the usage of enabling checkpoints on backups that are being deduplicated? I would think that the introduction of checkpoints every X minutes into the datastream would interrupt the continuity of the data and make it seem more unique thus negatively affecting dedupe ratios but I'm wondering by how much. Most, if not all, of the variable length guys have the ability to 're-align' themselves to the start of the files so I would think it might be more pronounced on large files vs your average server but I'm just thinking out loud. Anyone seen a recommendation or actually tested themselves? ___ Barclays_ _www.barclaycardus.com ___ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential and/or proprietary information. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity who is the intended recipient. Unauthorized use of this information is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender by replying to this
Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange question
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On 6/1/2011 12:37 AM, David Stanaway wrote:
What kind of backups are these?
GRT backups and Synthetic backups to my knowledge result in dataloss
if used with an SLP expecting the SLP to function.
On 5/31/2011 7:40 AM, Patrick wrote:
Hi All,
I have a strange question which may be related to my misunderstanding
of how SLP works.
I ran the nbstlutil command on a particular client with the following
results (many lines)
Image client_backupid for Lifcycle SLP is COMPLETE
Copy to Disk is NOT_STARTED
Copy to Tape is NOT_STARTED
What is confusing me is that the image for the specified backupid
does not exist anywhere that I can find. Bpimagelist --backupid
client_backupid show no entity found.
So how can the Lifecycle be complete if there are no images? The
actual backup does not exist on disk. The SLP backups to disk then
copies to tape, ONLY. Also this particular SLP has a retention level
of infinite. L
Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Patrick Whelan
VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX.
VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Windows.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Strange question
What kind of backups are these? GRT backups and Synthetic backups to my knowledge result in dataloss if used with an SLP expecting the SLP to function. On 5/31/2011 7:40 AM, Patrick wrote: Hi All, I have a strange question which may be related to my misunderstanding of how SLP works. I ran the nbstlutil command on a particular client with the following results (many lines) Image client_backupid for Lifcycle SLP is COMPLETE Copy to Disk is NOT_STARTED Copy to Tape is NOT_STARTED What is confusing me is that the image for the specified backupid does not exist anywhere that I can find. Bpimagelist --backupid client_backupid show no entity found. So how can the Lifecycle be complete if there are no images? The actual backup does not exist on disk. The SLP backups to disk then copies to tape, ONLY. Also this particular SLP has a retention level of infinite. L Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Patrick Whelan VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX. VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Windows. netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.uk mailto:netbac...@whelan-consulting.co.uk ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Restore Problems
How about moving the media server that owns the primary image copy? You would need a similar command in a DR situation to move all your tapes to be owned by the DR media server. Something similar to: bpmedia -movedb -ev media_id -oldserver decommissioned_media_server -newserver media_server_inheriting_media but you will only want to move the one image. Did you setup the storage unit on the client media server and OST plugin? It will need to be able to access the lsu and disk pool. On 5/30/2011 2:31 PM, Chapman, Scott wrote: I should have said in the original email that both the master and the Ent client have access to the DD to run backups... I've tried the restore from the gui on the master, same issue. I think the problem is that with OST backups, there is no definition who owns the backup image like there would be for a tape backup... (my guess only). So the master looks at the list of available servers to satisfy the restore request, the Enterprise client shows up (because as far as the master is concerned that is a media server) and then the Ent client gets assigned to do the restore, because the Ent client has access to the DD. *Scott Chapman* Senior Technical Specialist Storage and Database Administration ICBC - Victoria Ph: 250.414.7650 Cell: 250.213.9295 *From:*veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *David Stanaway *Sent:* Monday, May 30, 2011 12:25 PM *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] Restore Problems How about running the GUI from the master server? I never used the GUI on a Linux server, but on a windows master or media server BAR allows me to edit the clients list and select any client for restore, and I can direct the backup to any client also. On 5/30/2011 11:06 AM, Chapman, Scott wrote: Hello everyone, I'm wondering if anyone else out there is having the same problems that I'm having... Master Server: NBU 7.0.1, Solaris10 Enterprise Client: NBU 7.0.1, RedHat 5.? OST Device: DataDomain 880 So all of our backups go through our master server, whether tape or OST. My issue arrises when we do a restore from the DD, NetBackup can pick the Enterprise Client to do the restore... To begin with the Enterprise client is obviously not defined in any of the clients server lists, secondly, even if it was, it should fail the restore because it is only licensed to backup/restore itself! My understanding is this is a problem with the restore gui, because a restore from the CLI can define the media server to service the restore request. Is anyone else seeing this issue? If so, have you been able to work around it (besides making server admins do restores from the CLI)? *Scott Chapman* Senior Technical Specialist Storage and Database Administration ICBC - Victoria Ph: 250.414.7650 Cell: 250.213.9295 /This email and any attachments are intended only for the named recipient and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any unauthorized copying, dissemination or other use by a person other than the named recipient of this communication is prohibited. If you received this in error or are not named as a recipient, please notify the sender and destroy all copies of this email immediately./ ___ Veritas-bu maillist -Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu / This email and any attachments are intended only for the named recipient and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any unauthorized copying, dissemination or other use by a person other than the named recipient of this communication is prohibited. If you received this in error or are not named as a recipient, please notify the sender and destroy all copies of this email immediately. / ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Exchange 2010 GRT restores don't work on dedupe appliances?
We have done this with DD OST plugin, NBU 6.5.4 and Exchange 2007. The problem is that GRT backups could not be duplicated manually, or with an SLP. It would do horrible things. Currently not using GRT for exchange. We are using GRT for sharepoint, but also running non GRT fulls to duplicate with OST opt-dupe, with both 6.5.4 and now 7.0.1. The main weird thing is the need for the NFS components on Windows. Hopefully they fix that up a bit. GRT is nice, and the wan optimized duplication with DD is nice. Having to run a Full backup and a GRT backup is not so nice. On 4/12/2011 1:13 PM, Lightner, Jeff wrote: Restore of individual users from backups for Exchange 2010 from new Veritas 7.1 master was failing. Initially we were told this was because we were using Data Domain deduplication unit. We then moved to Quantum DXi deduplication unit and were told at that point that it wouldn't work there either for similar reasons. They're telling us backing up to standard disk storage without dedupe wouldn't cause the problem so it seems to be a problem with using deduplication units. (We haven't asked if it would work with their own deduplication software.) Has anyone seen this also on either of those or any other deduplication unit? If so did how did you resolve it if you did? Proud partner. Susan G. Komen for the Cure. /Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments./ -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] three copes with ost
With 6.5.4, there was a EEB we needed to apply for duplicate to tape to not use the wrong media server as the reader for the second scenario. We would have a 50/50 chance of the remote media server being used to be the reader for the image duplicating to tape. EG: copy 2 in the NJ SLP being duplicated to copy 3. some times we would have NJ media server copying the NY copy to to the NY tape library for copy 3. Obviously NOT desirable across the WAN. I think they rolled the fix into 6.5.5 and its definitely included with 7.0.1, I'm not sure which version you are using, but if it isn't 7.0.1 you may need an EEB fix. On 3/5/2011 2:39 PM, bob944 wrote: I will start using OST for my primary site (NY) and secondary (NJ) with cross replication. I also want a third copy going to tape, but I want the tape to be created at NY (for all backups, NY and NJ). here is my question... With Storage Lifecycle, for my NJ backups, if I create a copy to tape, then it will read from my primary (NJ), so it will kill my NY- NJ link. Is there a way that I can tell it to use the second copy that is now in NY? Or can I make the NY primary? Two SLPs should be all you need to force dups to work the way you want. NY backup to NY disk duplicate to NJ disk [from NY disk] duplicate to NY tape [from NY disk] NJ backup to NJ disk duplicate to NY disk [from NJ disk] duplicate to NY tape [from NY disk] See Adding a hierarchical duplication destination in the NetBackup Admin Guide. The indentation is the visual indicator of which backup, copy or duplication will be the source. A duplication at the same indentation level as multiple backup copies will use the primary copy. There's a good diagram in the guide. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up and restore of BLOGs with SQL under Netbackup 7.0
The is an MSSQL backup client, and Oracle and probably a few others. On a system I have with postgresql, I have a pre-backup script that runs a pg_dump and checks for success before backing up the system (Including the pg_dump). Setting up the backup and doing the restore will just require some coordination/testing with your DBA. On 2/8/2011 7:43 AM, Bobby R Windle wrote: Does anyone know if there is support or options for backing up and recovering blogs using SQL under Netbackup 7.0? Looking for some automation protection. thanks Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore associates, Inc. Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin work: 302 292 4026 cell : 302 588 7374 bwin...@wlgore.com | http://www.gore.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] How to use the DataDomain system cleaning process
The cleaning process is pretty simple. I haven't even really found a need to look at it since initial install. the NBU image cleanup is what frees up the backup image files via OST. The daily cleanup on the DD then cleans up the compressed fragments that are no longer referenced. If your EMC Rep can't get you the admin guide I would be very surprised. There is not much to the cleanup in the admin guide. You basically just need to figure out when you aren't planning to be doing a high volume of backups or duplications. For me it was easy dealing only with 2 adjacent timezones. On 2/7/2011 10:03 PM, nguytom wrote: anyone has DD administrator guide, please share it to me. I have netapp fundamental 7.2, we can exchange, thanks. my emails : ngu...@yahoo.com or nguy...@gmail.com +-- |This was sent by ngu...@yahoo.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Ex2k3 Snapshot Backups (VSS)
We are doing snap backup from the CCR Secondary copy with good performance. What does take a little time (Not much, but we do see it) is the exchange consistency checks and log replay on the snapshot. We have a similar amount of data to you. What disk subsystem do you have for the exchange data? The mailstore backup is a big sequential read of all your data. You may want to check you don't have online maint windows scheduled for when you are running the backup as that will fill up your snapshot delta fast and make both things run a lot slower than you would like. I haven't checked recently, but we backup a TB of Exchange in about 3 hours. It is Exchange 2007 though, and we are backing up to DataDomain DD660. I love the Optimized Dupe of that data :) On 2/1/2011 7:50 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote: Saran There is tons. That is not the issue. What I am after is real life experiences with this, that someone has used it, tried it, and its quicker than conventional multi stream backups? Have you got this implemented? Simon *From:* Saran Brar [mailto:saranb...@live.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:36 PM *To:* WEAVER, Simon (external) *Cc:* VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] Ex2k3 Snapshot Backups (VSS) I am sure you must have checked there is sufficient free space on the clients to accomdate snapshots. On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:32 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net mailto:simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net wrote: Morning I have TB's of Exchange Data, and do Information Store backups. These usually get finished in roughly 6 hours or so. I got an Eval License to look at Snapshot Backups for Exchange 2k3. Environment is all pure Windows Master and Media Servers Created a new Policy, ensured the NetBackup Client Service was using a Domain Account with permissions. Ensure the policy had perform snapshot backups and using VSS Ran it ... but its slower than I expected. Just wondered if anyone had any real experience on this, as I dont want to fork out alot of money for something that I thought would be better (and it should be!) Thanks /Regards/ /Simon//**/ This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] SLP ??
I saw that, but is is to me a crude hack. Plus I loose the ability to easily report and check compliance for systems. It doesn't help with tape backups either. My typical SLP is: Backup to DD Dupe to Tape Dupe to Alternate site DD or for systems primary backed up to alternate site: Backup to Alternate site DD Dupe to Main site DD Dupe to Tape Keeping track of multi-synths making sure they all completed and duplicating the appropriate copy to tape is very easy to manage and maintain with SLP. What would be cool is if you could use the multi-synth capability in an SLP like: Backup to DD Dupe to Tape Multi-synth backup to Alternate site DD from local images - with Opt-Synth if storage supports it. or for systems primary backed up to alternate site: Backup to Alternate site DD Multi-synth backup to Main site DD from local images - with Opt-Synth if storage supports it. Dupe to Tape On 1/9/2011 5:28 AM, Urs Krolzig wrote: Hello did you already check this? Clarification to Multiple Copy Synthetic Backups feature http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH77692 For me this worked with 7.0.1. Regards - Original Message - *From:* David Stanaway mailto:da...@stanaway.net *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Sent:* Saturday, January 08, 2011 12:55 AM *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] SLP ?? SLP policies can be checked for compliance also. I have a daily script that check for any incomplete SLP images and sends backup admins a nastygram. It has not fired yet due to fast opt dupe on out datadomains :). My only gripes with SLP (and they may be addressed with an EEB or with 7.1, I don't know) are: SLP policies cannot be used for synthetic backups. They will look like it works but none of the duplications run. Can you say dataloss? SLP policies cannot be used for GRT backups (EG: Sharepoint backups maded with GRT turned on). On 1/7/2011 3:39 PM, Mark Glazerman wrote: Pranav, SLP's enable you to duplicate backup images to multiple different locations all the while ensuring that Netbackup retains full visibility of the duplicated images wherever they end up residing. In our environment, where we'd traditionally used Data Domain's built in replication technology, Netbackup was aware of the backup image but was not aware of the duplicate copy on our replica data domain appliance. We still use Data Domain but now, using SLP's, Netbackup is aware of both copies and all the duplication jobs are visible inside the activity monitor. You can also use the same SLP for multiple policies. You just point your policy to it like you'd point it to storage unit and the SLP does the rest. I'm sure there are lots of other benefits but this is at least a start. *Mark Glazerman* Desk: 314-889-8282 Cell: 618-520-3401 Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to *From:*veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *pranav batra *Sent:* Friday, January 07, 2011 3:11 PM *To:* Veritas *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] SLP ?? Hello Geeks, I am looking for some of the advantages of SLP. All I think is that we can duplicate data and with diffrent retention periods? Wat else? Thanks, Pranav batra ___ Veritas-bu maillist -veritas...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] SLP ??
SLP policies can be checked for compliance also. I have a daily script that check for any incomplete SLP images and sends backup admins a nastygram. It has not fired yet due to fast opt dupe on out datadomains :). My only gripes with SLP (and they may be addressed with an EEB or with 7.1, I don't know) are: SLP policies cannot be used for synthetic backups. They will look like it works but none of the duplications run. Can you say dataloss? SLP policies cannot be used for GRT backups (EG: Sharepoint backups maded with GRT turned on). On 1/7/2011 3:39 PM, Mark Glazerman wrote: Pranav, SLP's enable you to duplicate backup images to multiple different locations all the while ensuring that Netbackup retains full visibility of the duplicated images wherever they end up residing. In our environment, where we'd traditionally used Data Domain's built in replication technology, Netbackup was aware of the backup image but was not aware of the duplicate copy on our replica data domain appliance. We still use Data Domain but now, using SLP's, Netbackup is aware of both copies and all the duplication jobs are visible inside the activity monitor. You can also use the same SLP for multiple policies. You just point your policy to it like you'd point it to storage unit and the SLP does the rest. I'm sure there are lots of other benefits but this is at least a start. *Mark Glazerman* Desk: 314-889-8282 Cell: 618-520-3401 Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to *From:*veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *pranav batra *Sent:* Friday, January 07, 2011 3:11 PM *To:* Veritas *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] SLP ?? Hello Geeks, I am looking for some of the advantages of SLP. All I think is that we can duplicate data and with diffrent retention periods? Wat else? Thanks, Pranav batra ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] SAN Disk space extend issue
I just had the very same issue not related to NBU AFAIK. Client OS W2K8. Instead of rescanning from disk mgmt and seeing the extra space there, then launching diskpart to extend like I normally do, I ran rescan command inside diskpart and did extend. Volume shows as taking up all the space in diskmgmt, but my computer didn't show the space. In the end I added an extra GB disk space and did what I normally do and the volume showed the expected size in my computer afterwards. Wierd. Not sure what happened. It was a test VM system so I didn't worry too much about t. On 11/25/2010 1:37 AM, Mohammed Ahmed wrote: Yes, it shows the actual allocated disk and volume space under diskpart but it doesn't show on my computer. Regards, Mohammed Ahmed Sent from Ahmed's BlackBerry® Empower your Business with BlackBerry® and Mobile Solutions from Etisalat -Original Message- From: WEAVER, Simon \(external\)simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 07:31:08 To:ahmed.itengin...@gmail.com;veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Cc:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] SAN Disk space extend issue Have you tried using diskpart to extend the volume? Simon -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Mohammed Ahmed Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 7:27 AM To: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] SAN Disk space extend issue Hello Experts, I have an NBU 6.5.5 Master server win 2003 std for one of the client server windows 2008 having SAN disk presented of 500 GB partition space it has NBU 6.5.4 client this was done initially now when I am extending the disk space to 1 TB it appears on disk management it shows the new allocated space on both volume and disk but it doesn't show on my computer we tried with the storage support guys and microsoft support nothing worked. I presume the disk spaced is locked by NBU which is not allowing the partition to extend. Does any one came across this issue. Thanks, Mohammed Ahmed Regards, Mohammed Ahmed Sent from Ahmed's BlackBerry(r) Empower your Business with BlackBerry(r) and Mobile Solutions from Etisalat ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] master virtual name in microsoft cluster
You should only use the cluster name in MSCS for managing the cluster. Create a new cluster group, IP and name for your clustered application. On 11/8/2010 1:01 PM, deasnutz wrote: So I have a microsoft cluster, two nodes and a cluster hostname. Do I also need another name/ip for the netbackup master virtual name? Or is there a way to use the MS cluster name as the Netbackup master virtual name also When I install and use the microsoft cluster name as the nbu virtual name, the resource will not go online, saying name already in use. If I use another name, it works. Thanks! +-- |This was sent by kevin.cor...@apollogrp.edu via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] FYI on File Exclude Lists
I guess that rules out backing up clusters system nodes with ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES and excludes for the shard disks. Do you have an ETrack on that I can follow the status of before I update these clients? On 10/14/2010 4:27 AM, Michael Graff Andersen wrote: Hello I am very interested in the outcome of this, as we have a lot of MSCSes with SQL databases on Regards Michael 2010/10/7 waynecierkowski netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.com mailto:netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.com I just had Symantec Support confirm that File List Exclusions broke at the 6.5.6 level of code when backing up a MS Cluster via the Virtual Client Name. We currently have in each clients exclude list *.mdf, *.ndf and *.ldf to exclude all SQL database files. This would have gone un-noticed if it was not for our DBA who created some 1.8 TB of additional SQL databases on this specfic client of the cluster. The client was upgraded in the last month or two to the 7.0 level. One day I happened to notice the the backup for this client was taking longer the normal to backup. I looked into it and noticed a ton of SQL Database files contained in the Windows based backups. Symantec did the troubleshooting on the issue and discovered that Client side exclude lists were OK at the 6.5.5 level of code but stopped to function when the client was upgraded to 6.5.6. I was able to confirm that a client at 7.0 and 7.0.1 level of code also had the problem. Just an FYI... +-- |This was sent by wayne.cierkow...@harpercollins.com mailto:wayne.cierkow...@harpercollins.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com mailto:ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] synthetic
Find out and let me know :P There is a touchfile to allow the synth to write 2 copies at the same time. One to disk, one to tape. I wish the NBU developers would get off their asses and enable SLP as a backup target for synthetics. This omission is pathetic to have been left as a known issue for so long. http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=TECH72168 On 10/1/2010 3:22 PM, terry712 wrote: running synthetic backups . windows backups and all 6.5.6. the backups are synthesiing without problem - only thing that i still need to get setup is i want a monthly backup to get ported onto tape how do you do this? thanks +-- |This was sent by terry.r...@lpct.scot.nhs.uk via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] MS-Sql server
The MSSQL backup agent is a little peculiar. You need to sign in to the server and run the agents GUI to set up the credentials, then quite the GU and launch it again, then you can successfully setup the bch script. The schedule has a frequency/window for the launching of the bch script, but you need to define a application backup window which is typically 24x7 to allow for manual backups. In my experience, the first time you run an MSSQL backup, it will fail. Then after that it is fine. To see what was backed up. From the modules admin guide: Using bplist to retrieve SQL Server backups If you plan to manually create a restore script, rather than through the NetBackup for SQL Server interface, you can use the bplist command to obtain restore images. See the NetBackup Commands guides for complete information about bplist. To extract all of the NetBackup for SQL Server backups from a specific server for a specific client, execute the following command from the MS-DOS prompt. install_path\NetBackup\bin\bplist -C client -t 15 -S server -R \ where client is the host machine on which NetBackup for SQL Server resides and server is the host machine of NetBackup server. The following example shows how to obtain the list of SQL Server backups backed up from client juneberry to server cole: C:\Program Files\NetBackup\bin\bplist -C juneberry -t 15 -S cole -R \ juneberry.MSSQL7.JUNEBERRY.db.pubs.~.7.001of003.20060920101716..C:\ juneberry.MSSQL7.JUNEBERRY.db.pubs.~.7.002of003.20060920101716..C:\ juneberry.MSSQL7.JUNEBERRY.db.pubs.~.7.003of003.20060920101716..C:\ juneberry.MSSQL7.JUNEBERRY.fil.pubs.pubsnew.7.001of001.20060919175149..C:\ juneberry.MSSQL7.JUNEBERRY\NEWINSTANCE.trx.abc.~.7.001of001.20060902170920..C:\ juneberry.MSSQL7.JUNEBERRY\NEWINSTANCE.fg.abc.PRIMARY.7.001of001.20060902170824.C:\ juneberry.MSSQL7.JUNEBERRY\NEWINSTANCE.db.Howard's Barbeque.~.7.001of001.20060901085255..C:\ juneberry.MSSQL7.JUNEBERRY\NEWINSTANCE.inc.Howard's Barbeque.~.7.001of001.20060903108552..C:\ juneberry.MSSQL7.COLE.db.pubs.~.7.001of001.20060907100101..C:\ juneberry.MSSQL7.COLE.db.pubs.~.7.001of001.20060908200234..C:\ On 9/23/2010 1:41 PM, Baumann, Kevin wrote: All, My Windows team has asked me if I can see what databases have been backed up on a particular Windows server. It is running MS-SQL, and when the master server kicks off the backup it looks at a .bch script on that server. It looks to me like the backups work, but I cannot find a way to say what actual databases were backed up. Is there an easy way to do that? And can I assume that if I get a status 0, that all the databases in the .bch file get backed up? Linux master/media server, 6.5.6. Client is Windows 2003 server (r2) running MS-Sql server. Thanks. -Kevin ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backupandgetting 196 errors.
Try unchecking the allow retry after calendar day (Not sure how it is worded exactly). Why do you have a calendar based schedule for your daily? Looks like you just need it for the weekly/monthly. On 9/21/2010 4:02 PM, THELEN, ROBERT M (ATTSI) wrote: I have seen Calendar based backups do this when the backup window is open for a long time. The Window is really to be used for frequency based backups – The backup will happen sometime during that window, based on the frequency. However, for calendar based backups, the start of the backup window is when the backup is set to run. If the backup runs and completes during the window, and it is still the same calendar day, then the backup will run again, until the backup window closes, with some respect for the frequency (but not much). I solved this in the past by either shrinking the backup window or inflating the frequency. With your backup windows starting at 7am and running all day through 10pm, I would guess that some of these backups might even run more than once per day. -Rob Thelen. *From:* veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *BeDour, Wayne *Sent:* Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:39 AM *To:* WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backupandgetting 196 errors. It’s calendar based, daily is a Cumulative Incremental that runs Monday through Saturday, backup window 07:00:00 à 22:00:00. The weekly / monthly is a Full, runs on Sunday with the same window. It has happened on the weekly and daily runs. Wayne BeDour Unix System Administrator PH: 248-447-1739 Internet: wbed...@lear.com mailto:wbed...@lear.com *From:* WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:simon.wea...@astrium.eads.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:28 AM *To:* BeDour, Wayne; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* RE: [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backup andgetting 196 errors. Wayne What is the frequency set for in this policy (within the schedule). Simon *From:* veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *BeDour, Wayne *Sent:* Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:07 PM *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Policy kicking off again after a successful backup andgetting 196 errors. Our environment, HP-UX 11-31 currently running one master and media server running NetBackup 6.5.2. Running mostly unix / Linus backups and a couple windows b/u’s thrown in for good measure. I’ve been modifying a few policies, splitting out mount points, changing the volume pool etc. On a couple of the policies that I’ve modified, they successfully run to completion and then they kick off again and error out with a 196. When they attempt to run after the successful run, they are still in the backup window even though they shouldn’t have kicked off again. Doesn’t make much sense to me, anyone ever see this before? Thanks in advance…. Wayne BeDour Unix System Administrator PH: 248-447-1739 Internet: wbed...@lear.com mailto:wbed...@lear.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Offhost backups with windows adv client/snapshots for VMWare RMDs?
Is anyone doing such a thing and do you have any words of wisdom on how best to do this? I am looking to set this up for some VMs with windows 2003 and windows 2008 OS on ESX 4.0 with RMDs mapped to some back end Clariion LUNs on a snapview enabled Clariion. 1) Policy start 2) VSS Snapshot on VM for quiesced RMD 3) Activate snap session on SAN connected media server 4) Offhost backup of VM RMD performed from snap presented to media server. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Offhost backups with windows adv client/snapshots for VMWare RMDs?
Note, the prefered backup type would be flashbackup full/inc schedules. On 8/25/2010 4:25 AM, David Stanaway wrote: Is anyone doing such a thing and do you have any words of wisdom on how best to do this? I am looking to set this up for some VMs with windows 2003 and windows 2008 OS on ESX 4.0 with RMDs mapped to some back end Clariion LUNs on a snapview enabled Clariion. 1) Policy start 2) VSS Snapshot on VM for quiesced RMD 3) Activate snap session on SAN connected media server 4) Offhost backup of VM RMD performed from snap presented to media server. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Question for NetBackup 7.0 Dedup user ORData Domain users
We wouldn't be able to do our backup replication to DR without the de-dupe levels we get from DD. We are seeing 30x dedupe on nightly backups which are mostly Incr backups, and full backups for DBs and Exchange. If you are concerned about minimizing your data utilization for your site to site replication, DD is king. On 8/25/2010 7:25 AM, Lightner, Jeff wrote: On the flip side because things like NetBackup do the work on the system being backed up it increases CPU resource consumption. For us that would be a killer. We've been using Data Domain for a couple of years on UNIX/Linux/Windows and have been quite happy with the dedupe ratios we get on everything including Oracle and MS-SQL databases. Additionally restores from the dedupe devices as compared to tape are incredibly fast. As others pointed out it does depend on what you're backing up. Dedupe is great for environments where the preponderance of what you're backing up isn't changing. Note that on the DD it is block level rather than file level so this doesn't mean your database files can't change (as they do every time they're update). I'm not sure how NBU's dedupe does it (file or block). -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of stefanos Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:02 AM To: 'Travis Kelley'; judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com; cal...@kforce.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Question for NetBackup 7.0 Dedup user ORData Domain users The big difference between DataDomain (and all appliances) and nebackup deduplication option is that netbackup can do the process on the client. This will speed up the time of the backup. With DD and netbackup media server deduplication, nothing will change at your backup time, as all your data will travel to the media server. Do not listen to the companies about the deduplication ratio. Your data is unique, and nobody can predict the ratio. Ask for a demo from both companies. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Travis Kelley Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:38 AM To: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com; cal...@kforce.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Question for NetBackup 7.0 Dedup user OR Data Domain users Data domain also has a limit to the amount of data one of their units can track but its fairly high. If you need more than 32TB of deduped data in PD you do need to deploy a seperate puredisk environment. Then PD just splits the hash space into chunks and stores data on whichever node it hases to. I'm not sure what their upper limit is but it can scale quite high also. On 8/24/10, judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com wrote: Remember that the built in de-dup as a limit on the amount of data it can keep track of. Over that amount you need to use a de-dup appliance. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Alley, Chris Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:09 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Question for NetBackup 7.0 Dedup user OR Data Domain users We are looking to change our backups to a disk based deduplication solution, and 2 of our options are to utilize NetBackup 7.0's built in dedupe (Client and Media server) or to put a Data Domain box in. I wanted to see if I could get some real world feedback on what you guys have been seeing in terms of dedupe rates, performance, etc. For example Data Domain claims we would only see about 5:1 dedupe rate using NetBackup, which seems quite a bit lower than what I would expectand of course they claim they would get about 20:1. I realize that all data is different, which is why I have hopes that several people will reply with what they are seeing. Thanks for your time! ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Proud partner. Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received
Re: [Veritas-bu] Scheduled policy backups are not starting child jobs
I had that problem when we had too many jobs active on the storage server exceeding it's max streams. Do you have an unusually large number of clients that start at that time? On 5/25/2010 1:44 PM, mbatt...@bloomberg.com wrote: Hi All, We are facing a peculiar problem , where policies starting around midnight are launching only parent jobs, but none of those parent jobs launch child jobs for each listed client in policy. The same client works fine if we start manual backup with same policy. Working with Symantec actively, but if anyone faced the problem already, would like to know how it got fixed. Thanks Mallik Env: Netabckup 6.5.3.1 running on solaris 10. All master, media server and client same versions. Job details shows as follows: 05/24/2010 23:55:00 - requesting resource ADIC_LAN_MS 05/24/2010 23:55:00 - requesting resource nynbuprod1.NBU_CLIENT.MAXJOBS.n071-s 05/24/2010 23:55:00 - requesting resource nynbuprod1.NBU_POLICY.MAXJOBS.fs_2355_ip 05/24/2010 23:55:08 - granted resource nynbuprod1.NBU_CLIENT.MAXJOBS.n071-s 05/24/2010 23:55:08 - granted resource nynbuprod1.NBU_POLICY.MAXJOBS.fs_2355_ip 05/24/2010 23:55:08 - granted resource N00877 05/24/2010 23:55:08 - granted resource nyprod1ms4_tld0_20cbn 05/24/2010 23:55:08 - granted resource nyprod1ms4-hcart3-tld-0 05/24/2010 23:55:11 - estimated 49077 kbytes needed 05/24/2010 23:55:11 - begin Parent Job 05/24/2010 23:55:11 - begin Stream Discovery: Start Notify Script 05/24/2010 23:55:13 - started process RUNCMD (pid=11187) Operation Status: 0 05/24/2010 23:55:15 - end Stream Discovery: Start Notify Script; elapsed time 0:00:04 05/24/2010 23:55:15 - begin Stream Discovery: Stream Discovery 05/24/2010 23:55:19 - started process bpmount (pid=6261) Operation Status: 0 05/24/2010 23:55:21 - end Stream Discovery: Stream Discovery; elapsed time 0:00:06 05/24/2010 23:55:21 - begin Stream Discovery: Policy Execution Manager Preprocessed ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] VMware clients
On 5/13/2010 4:05 PM, Victor Engle wrote: Just wondered if anyone could discuss the best options for backing up VMs running on ESX 3.5 and 4.0 systems? What are the pros and cons and which methods allow for file level restores for the VM. My backup server is solaris. Thanks, Vic ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu I am waiting until we get our infrastructure to vSphere 4.0 and NBU 7 to do vStorage backups which seem to be da bomb digity. All the ducks just got lined up in a row for this just recently, but I'll still wait until June to make sure nothing comes out in the field from other people. DataDomain's DDBoost just came out which is their new OST plugin which supports NBU 7. It also does some media server side de-duplication processing which I am hoping leads the way to global de-dupe and client side de-dupe. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 and MSCS Cluster
I have my nodes in mscs clusters in my regular ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES system policies, but I have policy specific exclusions for the cluster resource drives on them. I then have specific policies for each cluster with the specific disk resources in its backup selections corresponding with the virtual name associated with that resource group. It works quite well, and you can do your flashbackups, exchange, SQL or what have you of the virtual server names on the cluster. If we didn't use the policy scoped disk exclusions with the ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES system policies, the non-active nodes would attempt to backup those drives and fail. On 5/13/2010 4:17 PM, judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com wrote: Yes, that is the way NB says they should be backed up. I had to work this out on 3.5, they had a doc that explained it. I have policies that backup physical server to get C:\ and Shadow copy components Then I have policies that backup via the virtual name to get the resources. So with two physical servers One policy to get C and SCC One policy to get the resources of the first virtual name One policy to get the resource of the second virtual name. You could also do this in one policy if you wanted to work with the exclude list for each server. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Costa Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:54 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6.5 and MSCS Cluster We have a 3-node MSCS Cluster and at any given moment the 9 shares that the cluster is presenting can be located across the 3-nodes. Meaning that drives F, G, and H can be on node-1, drives I, J and K on node-2, and drives M, N and O on node-3. My question is if this situation is in place and we create a policy using the virtual name that the shares are being presented as will NBU be smart enough to backup these drives from these 3-nodes under the single virtual name? Thank You in advance Chris C +-- |This was sent by ccosta@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup does not encrypt the LTO-4 encryption key over the wire if not using NBAC
Sorry, no answer for you, but if/when you do find out, please let the list know. I did not know the key transerver from KMS to media server was insecure. On 5/3/2010 6:18 AM, Justin Piszcz wrote: Hello, I have had a case open since last week, still waiting for Symantec to contact me. I have found out from engineering that the key (LTO-4) encryption key from the master - media server is sent over the wire unencrypted. It is obfuscated but not encrypted. The only way to do that is use NBAC as it uses SSL to transfer the keys around. Has anyone setup NBAC (VxSS?) in disguise? I have gotten pretty close (when I refresh the master/media servers, they all show as OK, no more VxSS denied, etc..) But when I try to open the master/media server server properties, I get the following: Failed to initialize EMM connection. Verify that network access to the EMM server is available and that the services nbemm and pbx_exchange are running on the EMM server. (195) Per NBAC/etc I want to REQUIRE the use of it obviously for LTO-4 encryption, I would not want the key going over the wire unencrypted. Has anyone setup NBAC in 6.x or 7.x and have a short guide/FAQ/howto? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Backing up from a pipe?
Can I do a user backup from a pipe? Specifically, to get the output of pg_dumpall without needing an intermediate file sent to NBU ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] get back data from tape if fragment 1 deleted
It is just a tar file. You could find the tape file # and position with mt and cat the file out. I have not tried to recover an incomplete tar file, but I am sure there are tools out there. On 4/19/2010 3:18 AM, Markus, Istvan wrote: NetBackup 6.5: Phase 2 import stops as fragment 1 is no more available: INF - Skipping backup id (backup_id), there is no fragment 1 INF - Found no images matching the selection criteria that were ready for phase 2 import. Is there any way to get data from fragment 2? Any help would be much appreciated. Regards, Istvan ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] MS EXCHANGE CCR Cluster Backup ISSUE
Are you asking me? On the client Manage Computer - Disk Management Pick a volume, properties, Shadow Copies and you see a dialog that shows the permitted space for shadow copies per volume and where the volume used for shadow storage. On 4/15/2010 2:22 AM, NBU wrote: Hi David, Where exactly this has to be set. On backup servers (MASTER/MEDIA) or the client end. I went through HOST Properties Client Exchange_CLient Properties Windows Client VSP BUT I AM USING VSS. +-- |This was sent by qureshiu...@rediffmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] MS EXCHANGE CCR Cluster Backup ISSUE
Did you increase the limit of size for the volume shadow copies? Limit defaults to 1G per volume. On out exchange servers that got used up pretty quick and the shadow copy instance of exchange runs out of space and gets aborted. I don't recall if that resulted in a 50 status. It is easy to fix, go and bump up the limits. I set mine to 10G for each mailstore and log volume. You can watch the amount used during the course of the backup. On 4/13/2010 1:01 AM, NBU wrote: Hi Forum, My Environment MASTER / MEDIA on Solaris 10 with 6.5.5 Enterprise. Trying to backup MS Echange 2007 mail boxes as storage group. Intially successfully configured and tested. But now when i start any exchange backup just before completing the snapshots it is failing with error code 50. Because of this my other network/BCV backups also getting failed. Using VSS option. Backup selection looks like below. - NEW_STREAM Microsoft Information Store:\MBX01-SG01-EMP NEW_STREAM Microsoft Information Store:\MBX01-SG02-EMP NEW_STREAM Microsoft Information Store:\MBX01-SG03-EMP NEW_STREAM Microsoft Information Store:\MBX01-SG09-EMP NEW_STREAM Microsoft Information Store:\MBX01-SG10-VIP01 NEW_STREAM Microsoft Information Store:\MBX01-SG13-EMP NEW_STREAM Microsoft Information Store:\MBX01-SG14-EMP Microsoft Information Store:\Public Folder SG NEW_STREAM Microsoft Information Store:\MBX01-SG04-EMP NEW_STREAM Microsoft Information Store:\MBX01-SG05-EMP NEW_STREAM Microsoft Information Store:\MBX01-SG06-EMP NEW_STREAM Microsoft Information Store:\MBX01-SG07-EMP NEW_STREAM Microsoft Information Store:\MBX01-SG08-EMP NEW_STREAM Microsoft Information Store:\MBX01-SG11-NonEMP NEW_STREAM Microsoft Information Store:\MBX01-SG12-EMP NEW_STREAM Microsoft Information Store:\MBX01_Temp_SG -- Thanks in Advance. Regards +-- |This was sent by qureshiu...@rediffmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe?
These number aren't that hot compared to DataDomain from my use of it. We are seeing 86TB of backup images occupying 4.4TB of phys disk. On 4/1/2010 12:07 PM, Jon Bousselot wrote: I set it up in a small test environment, and started backing up three clients into a deduplication pool exclusively. 2 windows and 1 linux system The first pass wasn't that impressive, maybe a 5% to 10% de-dup ratio and it took a bit longer than just streaming that same data to tape or disk. The second pass had a 90% deduplication ratio, mostly because just 1 week had passed since the first full backup and not every file changed. After three weeks, I had about 300GB of data deduplicated down into about 90GB of disk space. The kbytes total reported from the catalog said 300G, and df -k said 90G. The data content of the three systems is typical for a user workstation. Email, photos, miscellaneous files. De-dup let me put many versions of those same files into a backup without actually having many copies of that file spinning on disk. And then the disk holding the de-duplicated data developed a bunch of bad sectors and I lost it all. Once I rebuild it, I'll check out the DR process for protecting your de-dup database and files. I also want to test client side de-duplication to see if that helps stream data compared to media server de-duplication alone. The media/master server is a quad core with 8g ram, and the clients are a desktop and a laptop. After seeing it run and observing the space savings it generates, I think it is a very creative way to solve some (not all) problems. It is definitely not a set it and forget it technology. You still need to monitor its utilization similar to how you would monitor basic disk or tape usage. -Jon *From:* Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.com *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Sent:* Thu, April 1, 2010 3:27:36 AM *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe? Hi, Is anyone using de-dupe? What kind of savings are you seeing? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Flashbackup restores to Windows a success but no data on Dr
With the Raw Partition restore for flashbackup-windows we have seen you need to set the restore option to overwrite. I haven't used the Standard flashbackup policy On 3/31/2010 6:16 PM, khester wrote: We have been trying to restore about 1.5 TB of data to our File Server which is a newly built staging server. We're restoring it from the original File Server which was backed up using Flash Backup (raw). Most of the restores have worked, however, it fails when we select individual folders are failing with an status 5 so we decided to move to full volume restores but when we restore it completes successfully but when we login to the source server, there's no data on the drive. +-- |This was sent by kenisha.hes...@usmint.treas.gov via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Resetting the archive bit on windows backups
You could test behaviour pretty easily. We do TIR (with move detection) backups which behave differently (And better IMHO). On 3/23/2010 1:52 PM, Donaldson, Mark wrote: This occurred to me on the way to work. Does the NB client for windows reset all the archive bits on files after the backup's completion? That's the only thing that makes sense as I see it. If it reset the bit after each file, then a last-minute failure of the backup would not let the next incremental backup what failed the previous run. -M Mark Donaldson - Systems Storage Administrator Staples - Broomfield, CO pager: 3034354...@cingularme.com (o) 303-664-2040 (c) 303-435-4766 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] SLP with Synthetic backups - What are people doing for workarounds?
I'm getting very frustrated about having to re-invent the wheel to reproduce the functionality of Storage Lifecycle Policies for my Synthetic Full backups. For those not aware, Synthetic backup images for some dumb reason that hasn't been explained to me cannot be managed by an SLP and you will get dataloss if you backup to an SLP and expect it to execute the policy. The backup will go to the Backup destination, but that is it. No duplications. I am working on some scripts to re-produce the functionality of SLP since Vault is not adequate as I have hierarchical duplications that are not possible with a vault job. It is going to take a little time to get right, and I can't help but think this must have been done before. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS Key Rotation
The limitation for the number of 'active' keytags in the keygroup dictates that you don't rotate they keys too often. It is pretty easy to cycle the keys out of the keygroup and recover them back in if you need, so don't let that stifle your desired rotation config. Just make sure you have a bullet proof way of making secure redundant hard copies of the keys, and test the full lifecycle including restore from recovered key and have its comfortable for your backup admins. On 3/8/2010 6:00 PM, Adams, Dwayne wrote: Hello, I am working on setting up KMS. If you are using KMS in your environment, do you rotate keys with your data sets? (Monthly, Yearly???) I have read that it is a Best Practice to rotate your keys as the data encrypted with that key expires. Are people really doing this with KMS? It is a tradeoff between security and restore complexity. What are Netbackup Admins doing in the Real World? Thanks Dwayne Adams ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] KMS issues in SSO environment?!
I'm using IBM LTO4 in a Dell ML6010 (Rebadged ADIC i500) with KMS and SSO with no issues at all. I am using W2K8 X64 with NBU 6.5.4 We are using the IBM Drivers for the LTO4 as per compat matrix. We are a pretty small tape environment in the scheme of things though, with the library drives (2 of them) just being shared with 2 NBU Media servers. The drives are only used for dupe jobs. On 3/4/2010 2:53 PM, Travis Kelley wrote: I'm running hardware LTO4 encrytion with 12 IBM LTO's in a Sun L1400 with KMS on nb 6.5.4 and haven't seen any issues. On 3/4/10, Eagle, Kent kea...@wilmingtontrust.com wrote: Greetings, We are running NBU 6.5.3.1 with a Quantum (ADIC) i2000 Scalar library. We currently have a bunch of LTO2 drives, but want to switch to LTO4 and get rid of our inline encryption appliances. We know about QEKM and QSKM, but are trying to go with a more vendor neutral solution. Also, an i500 or another i2000 library just to enable a built in feature of LTO4 is going to be a tuff sell to the bean counters. L In doing my research, I discovered that there is an issue with status 83 errors if you try to use KSM in an SSO environment. There are scant few technotes, etc.., but once you get deeper into the support matrix, people seem to know about it. Etrack #1765730 (Document ID #329579) indicates that it will be fixed in 6.5.6, which has not been posted for download yet. I can find no indication that NBU 7.x has this problem, or that it has been fixed. Having lived through all of the major upgrades, I know that support will be focused on 7.x problems before 6.x problems see daylight. At least that's the way it was from 3 to 4, 4 to 5, and 5 to 6. Has anyone received an engineering binary to address this, or were you able to wrangle more info out of Symnatec? Are you successfully running KSM right now in an SSO environment? I'd love to hear of any and all experiences, both negative (and hopefully) positive. P.S. - Yes, we've tested software based encryption; and the overhead was so great in our environment (plus the hit we took on compression) that it just isn't feasible. Thanks, Kent Visit our website at www.wilmingtontrust.com Investment products are not insured by the FDIC or any other governmental agency, are not deposits of or other obligations of or guaranteed by Wilmington Trust or any other bank or entity, and are subject to risks, including a possible loss of the principal amount invested. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential and/or proprietary information. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity who is the intended recipient. Unauthorized use of this information is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender by replying to this message and delete this material from any system it may be on. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Can't upgrade past windows netbackup client 6.0
The symptom we had was: Failed to connect to server. Error: 0x800401F0 Digging deeper we saw WMI issues logged in the install log. We saw errors logged in the WMI logs also, but service was otherwise functioning and the articles on this error on Symantec were not applicable, or didn't work. Symantec support gave us this brute force fix which did the trick, but you might want to look at any 3rd party apps you have installed that set up their own stuff in WMI. Here was the rebuild procedure we used. At the command line, typed net stop winmgmt Opened Explorer and wemt to the folder called %SystemRoot%\System32\WBEM\Repository. Deleted that folder and everything in it. Rebooted the system normally. On the next login, opened a command prompt and typed the following commands in this order: winmgmt /clearadap winmgmt /kill winmgmt /unregserver winmgmt /regserver winmgmt /resyncperf On 2/21/2010 1:42 AM, David Stanaway wrote: I just had a problem with this same error on a windows 2000 client. This was on a new 6.5 install. At the very end of the install, the installer connected to the windows event logs through WMI I think but this failed due to WMI repository being corrupted somehow. The install rolls back at this point. The problem was with the WMI Registry which needed to be rebuilt. I can send you instructions if you need. It was relatively painless but needed a reboot of the client. On 2/19/2010 5:57 PM, zimmy00 wrote: I have over 300 clients out there and out of those I can't seem to get a handful of them upgraded past 6. Now I know that unlike 6 and before, 6.5 requires communication with the server, however there are no firewalls in the way. And the servers backup with no problem with the older clients installed. The only error I see in the logs is Failed to connect to server. Error: 0x800401F0 and of course during the install the app says Installation was interupted. I know it's not the master servers since they have no problem getting to other clients. DNS is not an issue because the master is a unix server and I use the hosts table. And as stated there are no firewalls in between. Anyone have any idea's because I can't think of anything else. This is happening on both 2000 and 2003 clients, I have ran it locally and tried to push it from another client. I have ran it as administrator (run as) and as an adminstrator account. There is no UPS software on these servers (only article I could find on it). +-- |This was sent by steve.s...@compucom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Can't upgrade past windows netbackup client 6.0
I just had a problem with this same error on a windows 2000 client. This was on a new 6.5 install. At the very end of the install, the installer connected to the windows event logs through WMI I think but this failed due to WMI repository being corrupted somehow. The install rolls back at this point. The problem was with the WMI Registry which needed to be rebuilt. I can send you instructions if you need. It was relatively painless but needed a reboot of the client. On 2/19/2010 5:57 PM, zimmy00 wrote: I have over 300 clients out there and out of those I can't seem to get a handful of them upgraded past 6. Now I know that unlike 6 and before, 6.5 requires communication with the server, however there are no firewalls in the way. And the servers backup with no problem with the older clients installed. The only error I see in the logs is Failed to connect to server. Error: 0x800401F0 and of course during the install the app says Installation was interupted. I know it's not the master servers since they have no problem getting to other clients. DNS is not an issue because the master is a unix server and I use the hosts table. And as stated there are no firewalls in between. Anyone have any idea's because I can't think of anything else. This is happening on both 2000 and 2003 clients, I have ran it locally and tried to push it from another client. I have ran it as administrator (run as) and as an adminstrator account. There is no UPS software on these servers (only article I could find on it). +-- |This was sent by steve.s...@compucom.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Slow backup for MSSQL DB server with man DBs?
We have a MSSQL server with ~200 very small databases. This takes a very long time to backup as each DB spawns a new job that needs to get qued then start up the media session etc. We used to back it up with Legato pretty quickly, but now the lag is quite noticeable and it eats into our maintenance window. Is there anything we can do to decrease the lost time between backup jobs for a SQL policy with the $ALLDATABASES target with this many databases? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] 671 errors with Synthetics
Again, answering my own question. I think my issue here was due to accidental overlapping incremental backups. In a synth policy, having 2 incremental backups that overlap: EG: IMG1 INCR start: 1/20/10 17:01:00 elapsed: 0:56.000 IMG2 INCR start: 1/20/10 17:01:03 elapsed: 0:57.100 The Synth catches a DB error 238 and throws a 671 bpdbm log shows something like this: 14:21:59.969 [4748.3972] 16 synthesize_client_images: Expected to find previous backup system_dc_linux_synth_01_1264208459_INCR.f for image system_dc_linux_synth_01_1264276830_INCR.f, found system_dc_linux_synth_01_1264276827_INCR.f On 1/21/2010 8:46 PM, David Stanaway wrote: We are seeing quite a few of these on out 6.5.4 w2k8 master/media setup and can't account for them as the chain of Full/Diff-Incr are good. Has anyone else come across these when by all accounts they should have succeeded? NBU support is unfortunately not being very illuminating. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NOM alerts for incomplete jobs?
Is it possible to get a NOM alert whenever a job goes into incomplete status? EG: Loss of communications cause a backup with checkpoints to suspend. I want to know right away, not when it eventually times out or fails. I can't seem to find the right trigger to catch in the NOM alert policies. This is for NOM 6.5.4 / NBU 6.5.4 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Tool for auditing offsite vault with barcode scanner
Has anyone had any good success with any tools (Preferably able to pull inventory from NBU vault offsite inventory) that can work with a hand scanner to audit a vault (Not a robot, but a bunch of tape containers). ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] 671 errors with Synthetics
We are seeing quite a few of these on out 6.5.4 w2k8 master/media setup and can't account for them as the chain of Full/Diff-Incr are good. Has anyone else come across these when by all accounts they should have succeeded? NBU support is unfortunately not being very illuminating. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] MS-Windows Synthetic problem with MSCS
Answering my own question, This was resolved by turning off multistreaming for this policy. With multistreaming, a separate stream was spawned for each drive, even if the drive was filtered out and gave errors with the synthetic. This problem did not occur when the policy was set to not use multistreaming. Kudos to NBU support for solving this one. On 12/17/2009 8:39 PM, David Stanaway wrote: Okay, so I have a problem with backing up MSCS clusters with ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES backup selections. The cluster nodes not holding the volume attempt to backup the volumes and fail. This was easy enough to fix with policy specific client exclusions, and these exclusions for the clustered volumes get skipped correctly when backing up with Full, or Differential-Incremental schedules, and images for those volumes don't get created. The Synthetic Full schedule however errors out with the cluster volumes with an exist status 671. Is there something I am missing? The client exclusions are set up right as they work for the other schedule types. Do the synthetics ignore the exclusion lists since they are not touching the client system? In Legato, the ALL backup selection skips volumes that are associated with an MSCS cluster. Is there a policy specific way I can do the same thing? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Policies for NOM, VBR, KMS
Anyone have policies (Pre/Post command scripts/backup selections) for backing up KMS, NOM and VBR? I am kind of surprised there aren't specially crafted backup types for these. ENV: NBU 6.5.4 Windows ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Is the Symantec/Veritas ftp site just hosed?
Tell me about it! I was trying tp download the docs for KMS so I can see the valid states for a key so I can expire one out. While I wait for it to get back, I need to purge a key out of a keygrp? is it: nbkmsutil -keygrp ENCR_FOO -keyname key1 -changekey -state expired nbkmsutil -keygrp ENCR_FOO -keyname key1 -deletekey On 12/24/2009 12:15 PM, Justin Piszcz wrote: Yep. Looks like their FTP site lost a lot of data: lftp ftp.nbu.support.veritas.com:/pub/support/products ls -rw-r--r-- 1 3 3 23711784 Dec 24 08:52 281-845-030_1.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 3 3 2383848 Dec 24 08:49 281-845-030_2.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 3 3 89935662 Dec 24 02:39 281-896-193.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 3 3 14799573 Dec 16 19:56 410-645-491.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 3 3 28340539 Dec 16 20:07 410-645-491_new.zip drwxr-xr-x 2 3 3 4096Dec 23 20:43 410-657-513 -rw-r--r-- 1 3 3 32512 Dec 18 02:19 CaseID500333139.zip drwxr-xr-x 3 3 3 4096Nov 03 00:36 NetBackup_Enterprise_Server lftp ftp.nbu.support.veritas.com:/pub/support/products Something is seriously hosed. Justin. On Thu, 24 Dec 2009, gabriel rosenkoetter wrote: I went to pull down a manual (for VVR, not NBU, but this seems to affect everything) just now, and found that something's very wrong with ftp.support.vertas.com / exftpp.symantec.com: % ftp ftp.support.veritas.com Connected to exftpp.symantec.com. 220-This system is for the use of authorized users only. Individuals using this computer system without authority, or in excess of their authority, are subject to having all of their activities on this system monitored and recorded by system personnel. In the course of monitoring individuals improperly using this system, or in the course of system maintenance, the activities of authorized users may also be monitored. Anyone using this system expressly consents to such monitoring and is advised that if such monitoring reveals possible evidence of criminal activity, system personnel may provide the evidence of such monitoring to law enforcement officials. 220- 220 Symantec Secure FTP Server ready. Name (ftp.support.veritas.com:gr): anonymous 331 Password required for anonymous. Password: 230 Virtual user anonymous logged in. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp cd pub/support 250 CWD command successful. ftp epsv EPSV/EPRT on IPv4 off. ftp passive Passive mode: on; fallback to active mode: on. ftp ls 227 Entering Passive Mode (216,10,195,44,140,27) 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list. drwxr-xr-x 3 3 3 4096Dec 23 13:09 documentation drwxr-xr-x 4 3 3 4096Dec 24 08:49 products 226 Transfer complete. ftp ls * 227 Entering Passive Mode (216,10,195,44,140,54) 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list. /pub/support/documentation: -rw-r--r-- 1 3 3 18418536 Dec 23 13:12 600-565-327_SURV01.cab drwxr-xr-x 2 3 3 4096Dec 16 22:18 New Folder /pub/support/products: -rw-r--r-- 1 3 3 23711784 Dec 24 08:52 281-845-030_1.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 3 3 2383848 Dec 24 08:49 281-845-030_2.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 3 3 89935662 Dec 24 02:39 281-896-193.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 3 3 14799573 Dec 16 19:56 410-645-491.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 3 3 28340539 Dec 16 20:07 410-645-491_new.zip drwxr-xr-x 2 3 3 4096Dec 23 20:43 410-657-513 -rw-r--r-- 1 3 3 32512 Dec 18 02:19 CaseID500333139.zip drwxr-xr-x 3 3 3 4096Nov 03 00:36 NetBackup_Enterprise_Server 226 Transfer complete. ftp ls products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server 227 Entering Passive Mode (216,10,195,44,140,69) 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list. drwxr-xr-x 2 3 3 4096Nov 03 03:15 NB_6.5.4.linux_326371 226 Transfer complete. ftp ls products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server/NB_6.5.4.linux_326371 227 Entering Passive Mode (216,10,195,44,140,86) 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list. -rw-r--r-- 1 3 3 110500 Nov 03 03:15 NB_update.install -rw-r--r-- 1 3 3 1441792 Nov 03 03:15 VrtsNB_6.5.4.linux.tar.Z 226 Transfer complete. ftp quit 221 Goodbye. This isn't just me, right? Does anyone know the appropriate place to report this to Symantec? -- gabriel rosenkoetter g...@eclipsed.net ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Problems with duplication and synth jobs reading across network
I have 6.5.4 and it is copying from the correct storage unit, I just have 2 media servers sharing a storage unit and I would like it to use the shortest path from src to dst. EG: I have: MEDIA1 / \ OST LSU TD0 SUG \ MEDIA2 / I have a SLP that mandates an image backed up on OST LSU gets duplicated to the shared TD0 SUG I see duplication jobs reading the image from OST LSU via MEDIA1 and writing to TD0 SUG via MEDIA2 Likewise for synthetic jobs. I see reading extents from OST LSU via MEDIA1 and writing to MEDIA2 for the sytentic image. On 12/22/2009 8:13 AM, William Brown wrote: Do you need NetBackup 6.5.4 to do this correctly? It allows you to select which copy to duplicate from, otherwise the duplicates are always made from the initial backup copy. William D L Brown -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of da...@stanaway.net Sent: 21 December 2009 17:51 To: cksteh...@pepco.com Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Problems with duplication and synth jobs reading across network Thanks, We are using that too, and it works as expected. The issue I was having was with duplicating images locally at one site either as part of a synthetic image, or part of a a duplication to tape SLP. We use the replication feature of Data Domain with OST, we let DataDomain replicate at our other site and use the SLP feature to copy to tape. -- Carl Stehman Distributed Services Pepcoholdings, Inc. 701 Ninth St NW Washington DC 20068 202-331-6619 da...@stanaway.net Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 12/21/2009 11:50 AM To Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Problems with duplication and synth jobs reading across network I have a site with an OST LSU shared with 2 media servers and a SAN tape library being shared in an SUG with the same 2 media servers. I am seeing duplication jobs reading an image from one media server and writing to a device on the other media server across the network. How can avoid this without losing load balancing of the backup jobs? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright belonging to Pepco Holdings, Inc. or its affiliates (PHI). This Email is intended solely for the use of the person(s) to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this Email to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this Email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete this Email and any copies. PHI policies expressly prohibit employees from making defamatory or offensive statements and infringing any copyright or any other legal right by Email communication. PHI will not accept any liability in respect of such communications. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu --- This e-mail was sent by GlaxoSmithKline Services Unlimited (registered in England and Wales No. 1047315), which is a member of the GlaxoSmithKline group of companies. The registered address of GlaxoSmithKline Services Unlimited is 980 Great West Road, Brentford, Middlesex TW8 9GS. --- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19
The policy is multistream enabled, so each local drive and windows special save directives get a job stream. Here is an EG: clients: CNODE1 CNODE2 CVIRT1 policies: CVIRT_full_win Type: MS-Windows Backup Selections: Q: R: Exclusions: None Schedules: Full (Full) Daily (Differential/Inc) Clients: CVIRT1 SYS_synth_win Type: MS-Windows Backup Selections: ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES Exclusions: CNODE1: Q:, R: CNODE2: Q:, R: Schedules: Full (Full) Daily (Differential/Inc) Weekly (Full - Synthetic) Clients: CNODE1 CNODE2 Sequence of events: Full schedule for SYS_synth_win runs and creates images for VSS compontents, System State, C: Q: and R: are not backed up, no errors.. Daily inc schedule runs and creates images for VSS compontents, System State, C: Q: and R: are not backed up, no errors. Weekly schedule runs, the parent job spawns a job for each ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES regardless of the exclusions. The cluster drives jobs all fail with a 671 since there are no images to create the synthetic with. I could build a policy for the cluster nodes local system backups that doesn't use ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES, but that is going to be harder to manage, and I would much rather use that directive wherever I can so that I never see a case where we failed to backup a new local drive added some time in the future and being overlooked for the backup policy. On 12/18/2009 11:56 AM, bob944 wrote: so I have a problem with backing up MSCS clusters with ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES backup selections. The cluster nodes not holding the volume attempt to backup the volumes and fail. This was easy enough to fix with policy specific client exclusions, and these exclusions for the clustered volumes get skipped correctly when backing up with Full, or Differential-Incremental schedules, and images for those volumes don't get created. The Synthetic Full schedule however errors out with the cluster volumes with an exist status 671. I don't know the answer but have a suggestion. If you include a known-good file with each stream (however you have them broken up), does the synthetic work? Example: NEW_STREAM f:\ c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc NEW_STREAM g:\ c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc I do this (/etc on *nix and the above on windows, with also winnt vs windows and with the likely system-drive-letters--c: and d: usually) anywhere that I back up an optional mount point which may or may not have anything mounted to it and I want to be alerted by a stat 71. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] MS-Windows Synthetic problem with MSCS
Okay, so I have a problem with backing up MSCS clusters with ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES backup selections. The cluster nodes not holding the volume attempt to backup the volumes and fail. This was easy enough to fix with policy specific client exclusions, and these exclusions for the clustered volumes get skipped correctly when backing up with Full, or Differential-Incremental schedules, and images for those volumes don't get created. The Synthetic Full schedule however errors out with the cluster volumes with an exist status 671. Is there something I am missing? The client exclusions are set up right as they work for the other schedule types. Do the synthetics ignore the exclusion lists since they are not touching the client system? In Legato, the ALL backup selection skips volumes that are associated with an MSCS cluster. Is there a policy specific way I can do the same thing? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
