RE: [Veritas-bu] File listing for Fragment

2006-05-11 Thread Greenberg, Brian
Mickey,

You're right.  Easiest way would to be to import the tape set and then restore 
to another NDMP host however, you may need to know of it came from a EMC or a 
NetApp box.  You can't restore EMC to NetApp and visa versa.  Additionally, the 
backup may have happened in dump or tar.  Depending on the platform and 
depending on the policy settings for the NDMP host.

Regards,
   Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:54 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: FW: [Veritas-bu] File listing for Fragment


Andrew,

Were these tapes made using ndmp or were they made using a mapped drive from
a NetBackup enabled client?

ndmp uses a dump file format like Solaris ufsdump. If your restoring from
ndmp, once you put the NetBackup fragments back together, you will then have
an Ontap compatible dump file, which you can use an Ontap "restore" command
or Solaris ufsdump. I don't see getting around having to restore the entire
dumpfile, which is a PITA for those of us use to the ease of single file
restore with NetBackup, but is a reality when dealing with ndmp in
combination with any 3rd party software. 

Why go to all this bother?  Import all the tapes into NetBackup, then
restore the entire qtree to an alternate location using NetBackup. Pick out
the files you need and move them back where you need them.

That's really the best way to do it. You can create an alternate location to
restore with inexpensive storage for less money than you can write the code
to do it - and you're still going to need to restore the entire dump file
somewhere or write code to dynamically keep track of both the fragment
structure and the dump file structure as you parse them in memory somewhere.

It sounds like that should be a piece of software worth some $$$.

If I'm wrong here, someone please correct me.

Mickey Baker
Safe Data Services, LLC
Independent Storage Consultant


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Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:12 AM
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] File listing for Fragment

Ok then,
 
I can identify that the file I'm looking for  is 'x' blocks from the start
of the backup image!, this is the  5th field in the *.f file.  My value is
105001394 for the 5th field.
 
How do I then go 'x' blocks from the start of the backup image on the tape?
I've been using 'mt' and it uses 'files' to count, not 'blocks' as specified
within the *.f file. Should I be using another utility?
 
Thanks
 
Regards 
Andrew Wilkin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 10 May 2006 8:26 AM
To: Andrew Wilkin
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] File listing for Fragment
No offense, but seeking to a single fragment & reading files is netbackup's
job.  The TOC you describe (associating fragment to file) is the quick
definition of Netbackup's image catalog.  You're starting to write the
application you've already bought.
 
To answer your question, I think you're going to have to mine the catalog
directly for the info you're looking for.  Look under the
/usr/openv/netbackup/db/images///.f files for
the file to frag info.  If you're using the binary catalog, you'll have to
convert them.
 
-M


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Cashman
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:53 PM
To: Andrew Wilkin
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] File listing for Fragment
Try bpimagelist -backupid (backup_id)

Steve
 
On 5/5/06, Andrew Wilkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Hi All,
 
I'm after a away to extract the files that are contained within an
individual BackupId that has multiple "Fragments" (File number on a Tape).
 
If I have a single backup image and it spans many "Fragments" / File
Numbers, on the media, is there a way to extract a listing's of those files
from a single Fragment/File Number using a single backup id, though the are
multiple Fragments for that single backup? (sorry but I've repeated myself
here!) 
 
I know I can get a complete listing of a specific backup using bpmedialist
and give the backup id etc. But using the Images on Media control( from the
GUI), I can see the multiple Fragments on the Tape with the File Numbers, so
there must be a way somehow to relate this back into the NetBackup DataBase
to use it! 
 
This has come about from an historic NDMP system I've had to recover from
and for the particular directory, they are 27 Fragments, and I know how to
extract the NDMP

RE: [Veritas-bu] Filesystem location tracking for restores

2006-03-07 Thread Greenberg, Brian
Title: Message








I’m trying to consider organizations
that might have a high turn over where no one really knows where the data may
have been before it might have moved onto it’s current box.  

 

Other than using Excel which seems a very
obvious and manual process, I was hoping someone might have had some other
ideas.  Especially any automated processes.  I know that some people
have mentioned entries in /etc/fstab and the like but I’m looking for a
strategy that’s more centralized to the NBU master server itself.

 

I realize this just might be a great wish
list thing, something that comes along with data life cycle management.




Regards,

   Brian











From: WEAVER, Simon
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:56
AM
To: Greenberg,
 Brian; Tschida, Tom (C)(STP);
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu]
Filesystem location tracking for restores



 



Hi





Well my gut feeling is, the Admin would
"ask" a question - I was in fact in this position - had to restore
data from a server no longer existed, but found that the server was replaced by
a new box, with a new name.





 





With the BA&R tool, simply added the
new server as the destination and the data was restored.





 





Is this the sort of scenario you meant?
Server changes were documented using excel sheet, although its not quite a common
issue now as it was 8 months ago!





 





HTH



Simon
Weaver
Technical
Support
Windows
Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium
Tel: 02392-708598 

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-Original Message-
From: Greenberg,
 Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 March 2006 15:49
To: Tschida, Tom (C)(STP);
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu]
Filesystem location tracking for restores

I didn't see any responses to this. 
I would also be very curious to know how people are tracking this kind of
information.




Regards,

Brian

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Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Filesystem
location tracking for restores



 



Hello all,





 





I was curious how people are tracking
moves of filesystems.  





 





For example, let's say /export/home
resides on serverA, then serverA is decommissioned and replaced by serverB.





 





Two years later, the new administrator
assigned to backups has to restore a file from /export/home, but isn't aware
that it used to reside on serverA and therefore doesn't see any backups listed
because he/she entered serverB as the client.





 





So, the question is how are people
tracking the movesExcel spreadsheets?





 





Any info is appreciated.





 





Tom Tschida





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RE: [Veritas-bu] Filesystem location tracking for restores

2006-03-07 Thread Greenberg, Brian








I didn’t see any responses to this. 
I would also be very curious to know how people are tracking this kind of
information.




Regards,

Brian

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tschida, Tom (C)(STP)
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006
4:35 PM
To:
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Filesystem
location tracking for restores



 



Hello all,





 





I was curious how people are tracking
moves of filesystems.  





 





For example, let's say /export/home
resides on serverA, then serverA is decommissioned and replaced by serverB.





 





Two years later, the new administrator
assigned to backups has to restore a file from /export/home, but isn't aware
that it used to reside on serverA and therefore doesn't see any backups listed
because he/she entered serverB as the client.





 





So, the question is how are people
tracking the movesExcel spreadsheets?





 





Any info is appreciated.





 





Tom Tschida





Guidant Corporation










RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1 MP3

2006-03-03 Thread Greenberg, Brian
That's fantastic.  So I should probably do frequency based cleaning then
until I go to NBU 6.0?  The drives seem to need cleaning after about 500
or 600 hours of use.

Regards,
   Brian

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George
Drew
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 6:14 PM
To: Paul Keating
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1
MP3

The best thing to do (for nbu versions < 6.0) is to ignore those  
lights. Those versions of netbackup only recognize two of the 48 or  
so possible flags set on the tapealert log page, clean now and clean  
periodic. The light on the front of the drive could get set for who  
knows how many of the other possibilities (ask ADIC or IBM). Also,  
the tapealert log page is a 'read and clear' log page, meaning if  
something (the library) reads it before netbackup then netbackup will  
never see that the flag was set, and take no action.

Netbackup 6.x will tell you which flag was set, and take action on  
many of them.

George


On Mar 2, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Paul Keating wrote:

> In the 18 months since my two L700's have been in production, for the
> first 6 months, one library was doing nightly backups and daily
> vaulting, then both libraries in use with Inline tape copy for the  
> last
> 12 months, I've used 1 tape in the first library (25 cleanings) and
> maybe a dozen cleans in the second library.
>
> Paul
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Greenberg, Brian
>> Sent: March 2, 2006 10:42 AM
>> To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and
>> NBU 5.1 MP3
>>
>>
>> Ahhh, I misread your message.  So you were essentially doing  
>> frequency
>> based cleaning.  Yes, that's my other option.  Fortunately, the  
>> lights
>> on our drives only come on about after 800 hours of use,
>> approximately.
>>
>> I still have a ticket open with Veritas.  We're trying to see if the
>> cleaning count decrements at all on the tapes since tpconfig's report
>> isn't telling me if the drive gets cleaned when it looks like
>> from time
>> to time it does, so I'm looking at that report every day too.
>>
>> So what libraries are you using?
>>
>> Regards,
>>Brian
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:36 AM
>> To: Greenberg, Brian; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1
>> MP3
>>
>>
>> Hi Brian
>> No, I never waited for the lights, because as mentioned, the
>> lights seem
>> to
>> come on almost after EVERY backup.
>>
>> What I done, was within 3.4, checked how many times the drive was  
>> used
>> and
>> approx once per month used TPClean.
>>
>> ADIC support was totally useless, blaming the Netbackup
>> Software But
>> how
>> could it be the software if the drive is telling me it needs
>> cleaning??
>>
>> I had a schedule to run TPCLEAN every month Brian - when I
>> say "manual",
>> what I meant was "not controlled by Netbackup".
>>
>> Most of my Netbackup implementation is all automated - I only
>> ever look
>> at
>> the product or drives if I get an alert.
>>
>> Thankfully, I no longer use ADIC :-)
>>
>> Simon Weaver
>> Technical Support
>> Windows Domain Administrator
>>
>> EADS Astrium
>> Tel: 02392-708598
>>
>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Greenberg, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 02 March 2006 15:33
>> To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1
>> MP3
>>
>>
>> So your cleaning process is completely manual?  You waited to see
>> cleaning
>> lights on the drives and then cleaned them?
>>
>> That's what I've been doing, but for us, that's only a
>> temporary fix. My
>> motto, automate everything and then put the checks in place
>> to make sure
>> it's running properly.
>>
>> Regards,
>>    Brian
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 

RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1 MP3

2006-03-02 Thread Greenberg, Brian
Ahhh, I misread your message.  So you were essentially doing frequency
based cleaning.  Yes, that's my other option.  Fortunately, the lights
on our drives only come on about after 800 hours of use, approximately.

I still have a ticket open with Veritas.  We're trying to see if the
cleaning count decrements at all on the tapes since tpconfig's report
isn't telling me if the drive gets cleaned when it looks like from time
to time it does, so I'm looking at that report every day too.

So what libraries are you using?

Regards,
   Brian

-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:36 AM
To: Greenberg, Brian; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1
MP3


Hi Brian
No, I never waited for the lights, because as mentioned, the lights seem
to
come on almost after EVERY backup.

What I done, was within 3.4, checked how many times the drive was used
and
approx once per month used TPClean.

ADIC support was totally useless, blaming the Netbackup Software But
how
could it be the software if the drive is telling me it needs cleaning??

I had a schedule to run TPCLEAN every month Brian - when I say "manual",
what I meant was "not controlled by Netbackup".

Most of my Netbackup implementation is all automated - I only ever look
at
the product or drives if I get an alert.

Thankfully, I no longer use ADIC :-)

Simon Weaver 
Technical Support 
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium 
Tel: 02392-708598 

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



-Original Message-
From: Greenberg, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 March 2006 15:33
To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1
MP3


So your cleaning process is completely manual?  You waited to see
cleaning
lights on the drives and then cleaned them?

That's what I've been doing, but for us, that's only a temporary fix. My
motto, automate everything and then put the checks in place to make sure
it's running properly.

Regards,
   Brian

-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:25 AM
To: Greenberg, Brian; 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1
MP3


Brian
My ADIC would not communicate with Netbackup - manual intervention was
the
only way. I had a rule that NBU recognised the cleaning tape and was
able to
use TPCLEAN - but it was no big deal.

Simon Weaver 
Technical Support 
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium 
Tel: 02392-708598 

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



-Original Message-
From: Greenberg, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 March 2006 14:56
To: WEAVER, Simon
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1
MP3


Fair guess but no.  Actually, ADIC has nothing to do with it.  It's the
tape
alert that comes from the drive itself.  I have hardware/library
frequency
based cleaning off so that NBU can clean when it gets the request from
the
drive.  Barcode rules also wouldn't have anything to do with it either
because they are only for importing media/inventorying media in the
library.

Regards,
   Brian

-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:44 AM
To: Greenberg, Brian; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1
MP3


Hi Brian
I had an LTO1 ADIC, and to be very truthful, I ended up doing it
manually,
because the tape request simply did not interact with Netbackup 3.4

Not only that, the ADIC constantly wanted the drive to be cleaned almost
every other day. And I found this hard to believe, because if you do too
many cleans you would end up damaging the drive heads I guess!

The things to check would be the Barcode Rules, that its identified as a
cleaning tape, but as I said I never got it to automatically work. I
checked
the amount of times the drives had been used and where required cleaned
them!

Simon Weaver 
Technical Support 
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium 
Tel: 02392-708598 

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



-Original Message-
From: Greenberg, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 March 2006 16:08
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1 MP3


I have a ADIC i2k with LTO-3 (IBM) drives in it and NBU 5.1 MP3 running
on
RH Linux AS3 but I seem to be having some issues with drive cleaning.


Some of the drives have the red 'C' indicator on the front of the drive
with
the amber light flashing signaling that the drive needs to be cleaned.
However, the tapealert notification doesn't seem to be getting to NBU to
do
the clean on the drive

RE: [Veritas-bu] Tape calculator

2006-03-02 Thread Greenberg, Brian








I’m working on this very problem.  But
remember, you need to also take into account the retention policy for each
piece of media you send off site.  If you send 5 tapes off site with a
retention policy of two weeks and 5 tapes with a retention policy of 2 months,
in two weeks you’ll get 5 tapes back but in two months you’ll get
10 tapes back.  It’s really tricky to model.  I’ve been working on
a tool to help figure this out but haven’t had time to complete it yet. 
Anyone out there have this kind of tool?




Regards,

   Brian











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan (Contractor)
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006
9:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Tape
calculator



 

Assuming the amount of data to be backed
up isn't going to increase you can always "guess" by using your
offsite logs.

 

ie.  If you send 10 tapes offsite per
week and an additional 20 tapes at end of month

 

10 (tapes per year) x 52 (weeks in a year)
= 520 tapes

20 (tapes monthlies) x 12 (months /yr) =
240 tapes

 

etc... I have to keep a record of all
tapes sent offsite so it was fairly easy for me to do something similar to this
using logged information from months prior.  If you don't have this kind
of information available, then you are basically on the mission outlined
below.

 

-Jonathan

 







From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006
9:52 AM
To:
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape
calculator


Deiter, 

You
need to have: 

How
much data per client 
What
is your retention policy, 
What
schedules - cum-incremental/ incremental (% of total data changed = I used 20%
as a rule of thumb) and  full 
Frequency
of each schedule... 
Number
of copies for each backup. 

I
treated each client as individual - so each client was allocated media  according
to it's size - I used to allocate min 1 tape per day per client if they wanted
off-site too. You could become too technical and "group" all the
incrementals together onto 1 tape, but then you do get broken media...and if u
allocate exactly you won;t have any spares. 

Also
- at around $50 per tape - not too expensiveconsidering the risk of no
recovery at all... 

I
used to have this in a Excel spreadsheet. 


Good
luck, 

\_JdS_/








 
  
   
  
  
  Deiter Scott
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Solaris 9 master/media server at 5.1
mp4 
6 solaris clients 
20 some windows clients  

storagetek robot using SDLT's

  
We have been asked to determine the
amount of tapes needed to complete all our current backup schedules till the
end of this year. 
I wondered if any one else has accomplished this
and would have any hints or tricks. 








RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1 MP3

2006-03-02 Thread Greenberg, Brian
So your cleaning process is completely manual?  You waited to see
cleaning lights on the drives and then cleaned them?

That's what I've been doing, but for us, that's only a temporary fix.
My motto, automate everything and then put the checks in place to make
sure it's running properly.

Regards,
   Brian

-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:25 AM
To: Greenberg, Brian; 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1
MP3


Brian
My ADIC would not communicate with Netbackup - manual intervention was
the
only way. I had a rule that NBU recognised the cleaning tape and was
able to
use TPCLEAN - but it was no big deal.

Simon Weaver 
Technical Support 
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium 
Tel: 02392-708598 

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



-----Original Message-
From: Greenberg, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 March 2006 14:56
To: WEAVER, Simon
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1
MP3


Fair guess but no.  Actually, ADIC has nothing to do with it.  It's the
tape
alert that comes from the drive itself.  I have hardware/library
frequency
based cleaning off so that NBU can clean when it gets the request from
the
drive.  Barcode rules also wouldn't have anything to do with it either
because they are only for importing media/inventorying media in the
library.

Regards,
   Brian

-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:44 AM
To: Greenberg, Brian; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1
MP3


Hi Brian
I had an LTO1 ADIC, and to be very truthful, I ended up doing it
manually,
because the tape request simply did not interact with Netbackup 3.4

Not only that, the ADIC constantly wanted the drive to be cleaned almost
every other day. And I found this hard to believe, because if you do too
many cleans you would end up damaging the drive heads I guess!

The things to check would be the Barcode Rules, that its identified as a
cleaning tape, but as I said I never got it to automatically work. I
checked
the amount of times the drives had been used and where required cleaned
them!

Simon Weaver 
Technical Support 
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium 
Tel: 02392-708598 

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



-----Original Message-
From: Greenberg, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 March 2006 16:08
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1 MP3


I have a ADIC i2k with LTO-3 (IBM) drives in it and NBU 5.1 MP3 running
on
RH Linux AS3 but I seem to be having some issues with drive cleaning.


Some of the drives have the red 'C' indicator on the front of the drive
with
the amber light flashing signaling that the drive needs to be cleaned.
However, the tapealert notification doesn't seem to be getting to NBU to
do
the clean on the drive.  

Yes, there are cleaning tapes in the library, in the correct partition
and
are labeled properly.  When I issue a tpclean command or do it from the
GUI
it works fine.  The problem is I have to do all that manually.  

The tape alert doesn't seem to be getting to NBU.  I checked the
messages
file but that doesn't seem to be giving me enough info.

Anyone have a suggestion for me on where to look next?

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1 MP3

2006-03-02 Thread Greenberg, Brian








Ok, just checked.  Looks like the ADIC
Scalar i2k doesn’t manage the cleaning of drives at all.  It relies on
either manual cleaning or the backup application to either respond to tape
alerts or do frequency based cleanings.




Regards,

   Brian











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Brian, 

The
libraries I worked on in the past would manage the cleaning requirements
outside of NBU. 
All
we did was just define the tapes as cleaning tapes in NBU, however the library
needed to know which are the cleaning tapes, thus enabling it to call on the
tapes when needed. I would investigate the ADIC robot control/config.


JdS


 





 
  
   
  
  
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Hi Brian
I had an LTO1 ADIC, and to be very truthful, I ended up doing it manually,
because the tape request simply did not interact with Netbackup 3.4

Not only that, the ADIC constantly wanted the drive to be cleaned almost
every other day. And I found this hard to believe, because if you do too
many cleans you would end up damaging the drive heads I guess!

The things to check would be the Barcode Rules, that its identified as a
cleaning tape, but as I said I never got it to automatically work. I checked
the amount of times the drives had been used and where required cleaned
them!

Simon Weaver 
Technical Support 
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium 
Tel: 02392-708598 

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



-----Original Message-
From: Greenberg, Brian
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Sent: 01 March 2006 16:08
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1 MP3


I have a ADIC i2k with LTO-3 (IBM) drives in it and NBU 5.1 MP3 running on
RH Linux AS3 but I seem to be having some issues with drive cleaning.


Some of the drives have the red 'C' indicator on the front of the drive with
the amber light flashing signaling that the drive needs to be cleaned.
However, the tapealert notification doesn't seem to be getting to NBU to do
the clean on the drive.  

Yes, there are cleaning tapes in the library, in the correct partition and
are labeled properly.  When I issue a tpclean command or do it from the
GUI
it works fine.  The problem is I have to do all that manually.  

The tape alert doesn't seem to be getting to NBU.  I checked the messages
file but that doesn't seem to be giving me enough info.

Anyone have a suggestion for me on where to look next?

Brian Greenberg
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1 MP3

2006-03-02 Thread Greenberg, Brian








I’ll check that but usually it’s
one or the other.  Either the library will handle the cleaning or NBU will but
not both.  I prefer NBU doing it that way I can monitor how many cleans the
cleaning tapes have left and my scripts will alert me when I need new cleaning
tapes in the library.

 




Regards,

   Brian











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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning
issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1 MP3



 


Brian, 

The
libraries I worked on in the past would manage the cleaning requirements
outside of NBU. 
All
we did was just define the tapes as cleaning tapes in NBU, however the library
needed to know which are the cleaning tapes, thus enabling it to call on the
tapes when needed. I would investigate the ADIC robot control/config.


JdS


 





 
  
   
  
  
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        cc:         
   
        Subject:        RE: [Veritas-bu]
  Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1 MP3
  
 






Hi Brian
I had an LTO1 ADIC, and to be very truthful, I ended up doing it manually,
because the tape request simply did not interact with Netbackup 3.4

Not only that, the ADIC constantly wanted the drive to be cleaned almost
every other day. And I found this hard to believe, because if you do too
many cleans you would end up damaging the drive heads I guess!

The things to check would be the Barcode Rules, that its identified as a
cleaning tape, but as I said I never got it to automatically work. I checked
the amount of times the drives had been used and where required cleaned
them!

Simon Weaver 
Technical Support 
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium 
Tel: 02392-708598 

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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From: Greenberg, Brian
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Sent: 01 March 2006 16:08
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1 MP3


I have a ADIC i2k with LTO-3 (IBM) drives in it and NBU 5.1 MP3 running on
RH Linux AS3 but I seem to be having some issues with drive cleaning.


Some of the drives have the red 'C' indicator on the front of the drive with
the amber light flashing signaling that the drive needs to be cleaned.
However, the tapealert notification doesn't seem to be getting to NBU to do
the clean on the drive.  

Yes, there are cleaning tapes in the library, in the correct partition and
are labeled properly.  When I issue a tpclean command or do it from the
GUI
it works fine.  The problem is I have to do all that manually.  

The tape alert doesn't seem to be getting to NBU.  I checked the messages
file but that doesn't seem to be giving me enough info.

Anyone have a suggestion for me on where to look next?

Brian Greenberg
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[Veritas-bu] Cleaning issues: LTO-3/ADIC i2k and NBU 5.1 MP3

2006-03-01 Thread Greenberg, Brian
I have a ADIC i2k with LTO-3 (IBM) drives in it and NBU 5.1 MP3 running
on RH Linux AS3 but I seem to be having some issues with drive cleaning.


Some of the drives have the red 'C' indicator on the front of the drive
with the amber light flashing signaling that the drive needs to be
cleaned.  However, the tapealert notification doesn't seem to be getting
to NBU to do the clean on the drive.  

Yes, there are cleaning tapes in the library, in the correct partition
and are labeled properly.  When I issue a tpclean command or do it from
the GUI it works fine.  The problem is I have to do all that manually.  

The tape alert doesn't seem to be getting to NBU.  I checked the
messages file but that doesn't seem to be giving me enough info.

Anyone have a suggestion for me on where to look next?

Brian Greenberg
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RE: [Veritas-bu] schedule list?

2006-02-27 Thread Greenberg, Brian
Anybody have a script or way of getting out decent calendar based
schedule info that's more meaningful than what bppllist  -U
gives?

Regards,
  Brian
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] schedule list?

I run all frequency based scheduling and this is a sample output from
bppllist.  This shows that my incrementals for this job run Monday
through
Friday between 03:00:00 and 06:00:00.  The output of this script is
dependent on the number of policies and their configuration though.  

  Daily Windows:
   Day Open   Close   
   Sunday  000:00:00  000:00:00
   Monday  003:00:00  006:00:00 
   Tuesday 003:00:00  006:00:00   
   Wednesday   003:00:00  006:00:00   
   Thursday003:00:00  006:00:00   
   Friday  003:00:00  006:00:00   
   Saturday000:00:00  000:00:00

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] schedule list?

On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 12:54:06PM -0600, Barber, Layne (Contractor)
wrote:
> Is there any command line prog I can use to list the schedules of ALL
> policies at once? I'm trying to find what policies are set to run
fulls
> on Saturday.

bppllist only helps if you only use calendar-based scheduling.  If
you're
using frequency-based scheduling, which most of us do, then it's next to
impossible to figure out.

So yes, you answer your first question, but it likely won't help you
determine what you're looking for.

.../Ed

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Scratch Pool Alert

2006-02-23 Thread Greenberg, Brian
Title: Message








Write a script that will use vmquery -v ***
-bx | grep -i scratch | wc -l and then send you a note when it reaches a
certain threshold and update a web page.




Regards,

   Brian 

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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Scratch
Pool Alert



 

I use OpenView Operations agent to monitor
the logs and alert the 24/7 operators to add SCRATCH tapes.  There are
several messages in bptm and bpsched when there are no scratch tapes left.

 

Oh man, I feel your pain.  Every
quarter I order tapes and have to justify the order to the controllers of each
business unit.  I do a clientbackup report and pull it into Excel to do
calculations per server, then per business unit to determine how many tapes
each one should be charged for.  I also periodically do a medialist and
pull it into Excel to calculate average amount of data I’m getting on a
tape so I can use that in my calculations.  The whole process sucks the
life right out of me:^0  

 







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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Scratch Pool
Alert



Guys





Daft question here, but I have a remote site that has a low
supply of tapes and the scratch pool is empty





 





Is there a way to set an alert if the tapes get low or down
to Zero?





 





I am also trying to justify to the business that the tapes
are needed !! Any help or opinions on making a plea would also help





 





Thanks





Simon