Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Tape Writes and Retentions

2009-02-18 Thread Jackson, Todd
HI Judy

 

Thank you for your reply

 

Yes I was referring to IMAGES and not actual TAPE but was careless in my
general terminology.

I have no plans on mixing retentions or leaving a media tape in the
Library after it has been assigned.

We have some new policies for offsite retentions and I just wanted to
throw out a spare of the moment scenario to gather some information.

 

Everything you sent was Extremely helpful and very informative and I
thank you for taking to time to 

explain. There were some things that I did not know that you have
cleared up.

 

 

Thanks

-T

 

 



From: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
[mailto:judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:43 AM
To: Jackson, Todd; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Media Tape Writes and Retentions

 

1)  The IMAGE has the 5 week retention not the tape.

a.   Is if you write to the same tape 3 weeks in a row the tape will
not become scratch until the oldest images on the tape expires (week 3's
image date + 5 weeks)

2)  no

a.   when writing to a tape it will only append to the end of the
tape, past the last written image to the tape

b.  so if you have week1image, week2image,week3image, week4image

c.   and ^ week1 expires

d.  now you have   blankspace, week2image, week3i mage, week4image

e.   and you write to the same tape again you get

f.   blankspace, week2image, week3image,
week4image, week5image (tape is now full) (will not become scratch until
week5's image expires)

3)  if the tape has no assigned time then it is a scratch, no valid
images on it

a.   if the tape is in the library and in a pool that your policy
can use or the scratch pool it can be written to.

b.  If you leave the tape in the library your backups will continue
to write to the tape until it is FULL

c.   If the tape becomes FULL meaning that it has written all the
way to the EOT it will NOT write to again until all images on the tape
have expired (see #2)

d.  If you do not allow different retention levels on the same tape
- say mixing of 5 week retention and 6 month retention, then it will
choose a different tape for the 6 month retention.

4)  As the first image is written to the tape it gets an assigned
date.  On the second day when it writes to the tape it will not change
the assigned date, but it will change the expiration date (as the
expiration date is based on when the last image on the tape will expire
and the tape becomes scratch.)

 

In my production environment we remove the tapes from the library every
morning and send them off site.  So my assigned time on my tape
represents when my backups were done, because I do NOT put more then one
days backup on a tape ( what if the tape went bad and I could not read
it, I could loose days of data.

I do not mix retention periods on my tape because I could have just 1
gig of data on a tape with a 6 month retention and 400 gig of 2 week
retention.  That tape does not become scratch again until the 6 months
have passed.

 

 



From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jackson,
Todd
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:18 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media Tape Writes and Retentions

 

Hello All,

 

I have a question concerning LTO tape writes that I need some clarity
about.

 

Scenario:

 

If you have a Retention of 5 weeks for a policy and you write a job the
first day which gives the 

Images 5 weeks until expiration. When you write to that tape again on
week 2, week 3  ...   etc.

 

My question are 

 

1) Will each week of writes have a separate 5 week retention? 

 

2) Can the tape be written to again (over week 1 space on tape) by week
6 or will something else happen?

 

3) When the time is unassigned I am assuming that is all backup images
expiring. Will the tape be written to as 

long as it is in a Library or drive and not write protected ..  every
time a segment of images expire on the tape?

 

4) When that happens how does the time assigned change? Will it keep the
initial time assigned or change to the

Latest time assigned image?

 

 

LTO MEDIA TAPE USAGE

 

|   Week 1, Write job|   Week 2, Write job   |   Week 3, write job
|   Week 4, write job|Week 5, write job

   

 

 

Any other information is appreciated concerning how this works.

 

Thanks

-T

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[Veritas-bu] Media Tape Writes and Retentions

2009-02-18 Thread Jackson, Todd
Hello All,

 

I have a question concerning LTO tape writes that I need some clarity
about.

 

Scenario:

 

If you have a Retention of 5 weeks for a policy and you write a job the
first day which gives the 

Images 5 weeks until expiration. When you write to that tape again on
week 2, week 3  ...   etc.

 

My question are 

 

1) Will each week of writes have a separate 5 week retention? 

 

2) Can the tape be written to again (over week 1 space on tape) by week
6 or will something else happen?

 

3) When the time is unassigned I am assuming that is all backup images
expiring. Will the tape be written to as 

long as it is in a Library or drive and not write protected ..  every
time a segment of images expire on the tape?

 

4) When that happens how does the time assigned change? Will it keep the
initial time assigned or change to the

Latest time assigned image?

 

 

LTO MEDIA TAPE USAGE

 

|   Week 1, Write job|   Week 2, Write job   |   Week 3, write job
|   Week 4, write job|Week 5, write job

   

 

 

Any other information is appreciated concerning how this works.

 

Thanks

-T

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[Veritas-bu] 6.5.3 Upgrade checklist from NBU 5.0 MP7

2009-02-18 Thread Jackson, Todd
 

Hello All,

 

I would like to gather some information from some real experiences with
this upgrade

and any true pitfalls to be aware of that anyone has encountered. I have
several locations I am upgrading and I have 

looked at the information in the upgrade portal but I would like to know
of any roadblocks  

or issues anyone has run into during this type upgrade that wasn't
expected.

 

Environments

 

Master Server Windows 2003

Media Server Windows 2003

Windows Clients and a few Unix clients

NBU5.0 MP7

 

Also how much time did the entire process take with any encountered
issues?

 

Thanks

Jack

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Question about Storage Foundation Basic and Veritas Volume Replicator

2009-01-12 Thread Jackson, Todd
Thanks Ed ...

 

I plan to read the guide and get the right information before proceeding
with anything.

Just wanted to get a quick idea of what can be done or any benefits
people have received

from using these in their environments and how.

 

Thanks for the answer

 



From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:56 AM
To: Jackson, Todd
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Question about Storage Foundation Basic and
Veritas Volume Replicator

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Jackson, Todd
 wrote:

  

Also when using Veritas Volume Replicator do you have to use the
same Operating System flavor?

Meaning .. I assume you cannot have a Windows Master Server (
Production )and a Linux Master Server ( QC Master ) 

replicating the catalog. 


Even if VVR would let you replicate it, it would not do you any good.
With VVR, you're doing block-based replication and Windows can't mount
any of the popular Linux file systems and Linux can't do much with an
NTFS volume.  The files are also physically different so even if you
copied a catalog from a Windows system to any Unix system, you can't
directly use it.

 

Can anyone share some of their experience using these tools?  

I am just becoming familiar with these and maybe using both in
the next few months. 


 It sounds like you're trying to force the tools to the solution rather
than focusing on your requirements.  

I strongly suggest you read the HA Guide for NetBackup.  It's on the
NetBackup support site.

.../Ed 


Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE 
ewi...@ewilts.org

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[Veritas-bu] Question about Storage Foundation Basic and Veritas Volume Replicator

2009-01-12 Thread Jackson, Todd
Hello All,

 

Has anyone used Storage Foundation Basic on here and can you 

Let me know some of the advantages you have encountered?

 

Also when using Veritas Volume Replicator do you have to use the same
Operating System flavor?

Meaning .. I assume you cannot have a Windows Master Server ( Production
)and a Linux Master Server ( QC Master ) 

replicating the catalog. Does it matter is you do not have the same
amount of media servers on each side?

Can anyone share some of their experience using these tools?

 

I am just becoming familiar with these and maybe using both in the next
few months.

 

This will be being used with NBU 6.5.3 Master, Media, Clients.

 

 

Thanks

Jackson

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[Veritas-bu] Any opinions on a good stand alone drive

2008-11-06 Thread Jackson, Todd

All,

We have a small location that needs a good Stand Alone drive for very
small backups.
Does anyone have any information or recommendations for a really nice
Stand Alone they 
Have used. 

The environment will be running Windows 2003 and for NBU 6.5

Please let me know if anyone has suggestions.

thanks
-
Todd Jackson


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Command to Produce client and version

2008-10-08 Thread Jackson, Todd
Thank you Travis !

 

-Original Message-
From: Travis Kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:09 AM
To: Jackson, Todd
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Command to Produce client and version

Here's a little snippit of code we use to grab client versions.  You can
wrap this in whatever you want.  We have it outputting to an HTML page
that we can quickly reference to see all our client versions.

/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bptestbpcd -host $CLIENT -verbose >
/tmp/testbpcdoutput

VERSION=`grep "^VERSION" /tmp/testbpcdoutput | grep VERSION | awk
'{print $3}' | cut -c4-10`
case $VERSION in
652)
VERSION=6.5.2
;;
650)
VERSION=6.5
;;
6000404)
VERSION=6.0mp4
;;
510)
VERSION="5.1"
;;
450)
VERSION=4.5
;;
*)
VERSION="unknown "$VERSION
        ;;
esac


Jackson, Todd wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> Does anyone know which command and flags to use to produce a list
> Of clients and the version of netbackup they are running from the
> command line?
> 
> I want to produce something similar to Host Properties > Clients >
> Properties
> With less fields.
> 
> Using netbackup 6.0
> Windows Master
> 
> Thanks
> Todd
> 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Command to Produce client and version

2008-10-08 Thread Jackson, Todd
Thank you Ed !



From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 10:56 AM
To: Jackson, Todd
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Command to Produce client and version


On a Solaris master, we use a combination of a shell script and awk to
produce a csv file with the versions.  I'll paste the scripts here and
leave it as an exercise for the reader on how to convert this to
Windows.

When this runs, it needs to contact each client so it's not really
quick.  Obviously if you have clients that aren't reachable at the time
this runs, they'll be skipped although you will get an error to the
screen.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# cat get-client-versions.sh
#!/bin/sh

# Loop through all clients gathering the client version info

PATH=$PATH:/usr/openv/netbackup/bin:/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd
export PATH

CLIENTS=/usr/openv/local/client-versions
OUT=/usr/openv/local/client-versions.csv

[ ! -d $CLIENTS ] && mkdir $CLIENTS

bpplclients -allunique -noheader | awk '{print $NF}' | \
while read client
do
  echo Client: $client
  bpgetconfig -s $client -L -A > $CLIENTS/$client
done

cd $CLIENTS
for f in *
do
  awk -f /usr/openv/local/bin/get-client-versions.awk $f
done > $OUT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# cat get-client-versions.awk
/Platform/ {PLATFORM = $5}
/Client OS/ {OS = $5}
/Patch/ {print FILENAME "," $4 "," OS "," PLATFORM }




On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Jackson, Todd
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Does anyone know which command and flags to use to produce a
list
Of clients and the version of netbackup they are running from
the
command line?

I want to produce something similar to Host Properties > Clients
>
Properties
With less fields.

Using netbackup 6.0
Windows Master



.../Ed 

Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Veritas-bu] Command to Produce client and version

2008-10-08 Thread Jackson, Todd

Hello All,

Does anyone know which command and flags to use to produce a list
Of clients and the version of netbackup they are running from the
command line?

I want to produce something similar to Host Properties > Clients >
Properties
With less fields.

Using netbackup 6.0
Windows Master

Thanks
Todd


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[Veritas-bu] Locating media tapes for Importing

2008-09-05 Thread Jackson, Todd
All,
 
I need to locate some media tapes that has data that expired. I need to
import
the data back into the catalog. How can I locate which media tapes the
data was written to previously?
 
Is there a way to list which tapes a client has written to that may have
expired?
 
using Netbackup 6.0
 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] HP Data Protector Comparisons to Netbackup

2008-06-30 Thread Jackson, Todd
Simon
 
At what point if any is an environment to large for Data Protector or
should I say at what point
does Netbackup become a more useful tool?
 
thanks
Todd



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To: Jackson, Todd; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] HP Data Protector Comparisons to Netbackup


I use it, and I like it!
Best part is their license structure is SO much more cost effective to
Symantec! 
 
Otherwise, the products seem to be on par with each other. (ie: they
perform backups and can recover).
 
different layout, some different ways of configuration, but cost
wise you just cannot go wrong there !
 
Simon



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"not as good" as Netbackup current version. I want to see how they
respond to the comparisons.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] HP Data Protector Comparisons to Netbackup

2008-06-30 Thread Jackson, Todd
Hey Randy
 
Our environment is very similar. For the Main Datacenter we have 1
Master 10 media/SAN Media servers.
We currently have around 18 drives in a StorageTek L700. The question
I'm having some issues with is that
we back up Oracle, SQL DB's,  HP-UX, Red hat and Window systems. We have
a ton of client servers and I heard 
that Data Protector doesn't use Policies for all clients (example:
Window_File_System policy) but that you must assign each system
to it's own backup schedule. I also heard that it doesn't work well with
systems outside of HP systems. Is this valid information?
Please let me know your thoughts guys.
 
Todd



From: Randy Samora [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 8:20 PM
To: Jackson, Todd; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] HP Data Protector Comparisons to Netbackup



Todd,

 

What's the size of your configuration?  The guys (like we're all old
drinking buddies in here) had to come to my rescue a couple of months
ago when I was making the same comparison.  HP Data Protector turned out
to be fairly comparable in a network half the size of my current setup.
I have a single master and a dozen or so media/SAN Media servers sharing
one library with 24 drives and I got the impression that Netbackup was a
better choice for me.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jackson,
Todd
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:58 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] HP Data Protector Comparisons to Netbackup

 

Gurus

 

I need to speak to HP about their Data Protector Solution. If anyone has
experience or knowledge

of HP Storage Protector can you please send me some information
regarding how you think it is 

"not as good" as Netbackup current version. I want to see how they
respond to the comparisons.

If anyone has information on their product please forward your opinion.

 

thanks

 

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[Veritas-bu] HP Data Protector Comparisons to Netbackup

2008-06-27 Thread Jackson, Todd
Gurus
 
I need to speak to HP about their Data Protector Solution. If anyone has
experience or knowledge
of HP Storage Protector can you please send me some information
regarding how you think it is 
"not as good" as Netbackup current version. I want to see how they
respond to the comparisons.
If anyone has information on their product please forward your opinion.
 
thanks
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle DB agent install

2008-06-12 Thread Jackson, Todd
 
If you call Symantec support or use your serial number from your
previous NB product purchase you should get access to 
File Connect and you can download the tar balls to your system for later
use.
 
https://fileconnect.symantec.com/licenselogin.jsp
 
 
Jackson



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Hazari
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Oracle DB agent install


I need to install netbackup client + Oracle agent. I don't have the CD's
with me. If I tar up the /usr/openv directory from a similar system and
copy over to the new system will work ?  I will obviously re-link the
Oracle to netbackup.

TIA

-Shyam

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[Veritas-bu] Catalog restore tampered with by robot inventory

2008-06-11 Thread Jackson, Todd
Guys,
 
Can a catalog recovery fail or cause issues if someone attempts to 
inventory the robot while the catalog is restoring? I believe in NBU 5.1
and below
the cold catalog backup could not be disturbed or it could fail. How is
this behavior of a catalog recovery
for 6.0 and 6.5 if someone disturbs the library? I was running a catalog
recovery and one of the
datacenter guys decides to try and inventory tapes while it is
happening. It seems the first 2 hours
the job was moving pretty quickly but since that incident has slown
down. 
 
This is for a catalog recovery from tape. Using a Master / Library and
the media server (drive)
that it's assigned to.
 
Just curious if this is not an issue in 6.0 and up.
 
-Jackson
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[Veritas-bu] New Environment & Design Specifications

2008-06-03 Thread Jackson, Todd
All,
 
I have a question I would like to pose because I respect the vast amount
of knowledge
associated with this forum. We are creating a new backup environment due
to some changes
and needs. 
 
Currently we will be backing up about 40 terabytes of data with a
foreseen growth of 30-35% of data annually.
Data being backed up includes, Windows File systems, Unix File systems,
Exchange, Oracle and SQL.
Having a Production site and a DR site using present day Best practices
and current available hardware
what strategy would you use to set this up? This is even considering
purchasing a new library and using LTO4 drives.
The backup system will have a dedicated connection. We currently have 8
HP prolient servers as our media servers
which may stay.
 
We have some thoughts as to how and what we will do including using
vtl's and replication for the catalog
but since this forum has so many experienced people I want to get some
other professional opinions.
If you could set up (from scratch) a Production backup site and DR site
based on those data numbers which hardware and strategy
would you use considering future growth?
 
thanks
-Jackson 
 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 13 for new 6.5.1 environment test

2008-05-21 Thread Jackson, Todd
One thing is that the client is running NBU 5.1.  Can this be an issue
with NBU 6.5.1 Master communicating
with a 5.1 client? 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Todd
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Status 13 for new 6.5.1 environment test


All,
 
I just set up A Windows (2003) Master Server running NBU 6.5.1.
The old system use to run Solaris 8. I pointed one of the clients
(Solaris system)
to point to the new Master. I was able to connect from Host Properties
but running
a test backup I fail with a status 13. I created a bpbkar log earlier
because there were issues
connecting until I added an entry for /etc/hosts file. However there is
no data in there. From problem report I just get the
13 file read failed. I only selected two directories that I know backed
up successfully on the old system.
 
Seems like a permission issue somewhere but maybe someone has an idea of
the problem.
 
any ideas?
 
Jackson
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[Veritas-bu] Status 13 for new 6.5.1 environment test

2008-05-21 Thread Jackson, Todd
All,
 
I just set up A Windows (2003) Master Server running NBU 6.5.1.
The old system use to run Solaris 8. I pointed one of the clients
(Solaris system)
to point to the new Master. I was able to connect from Host Properties
but running
a test backup I fail with a status 13. I created a bpbkar log earlier
because there were issues
connecting until I added an entry for /etc/hosts file. However there is
no data in there. From problem report I just get the
13 file read failed. I only selected two directories that I know backed
up successfully on the old system.
 
Seems like a permission issue somewhere but maybe someone has an idea of
the problem.
 
any ideas?
 
Jackson
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[Veritas-bu] Configured Drive going down

2008-05-14 Thread Jackson, Todd
All,
 
Can anyone tell me if having duplicate Target ID's can cause drive
issues?
 
We have around 16 drives in a L700 Storage Tek library.
We have 7 media servers which two of them are new. One of the new drives
added
has the same Target ID as an older drive when you view Media and Device
management / Devices / Drives.
 
The issue is that the new drive keeps getting tapes stuck in the drive
and going down.
Sun ran tests and the drives are good. Can only be Netbackup
configuration or something wrong
with the HBA at this point.
 
Any ideas ?   
 
thanks
Jackson
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Dumping Reports to text files

2008-05-01 Thread Jackson, Todd
Thanks George
 
I should have thought about that.  Thank You
 
Jackson



From: Milner, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:08 AM
To: Jackson, Todd; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Dumping Reports to text files



If you look at file > export in the menu, you can export whatever window
you're in to txt and import or open it in another application like excel
or word.

 

George

 



From: Jackson, Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:59 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Dumping Reports to text files

 

All,

 

Is there a way to dump reports to a text file in Netbackup?

I pulled some information from Client Backups Report and would 

like to dump this to a text file. Not certain if this can be done from

the command line > to a text file.

 

thanks

Jackson

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[Veritas-bu] Dumping Reports to text files

2008-05-01 Thread Jackson, Todd
All,
 
Is there a way to dump reports to a text file in Netbackup?
I pulled some information from Client Backups Report and would 
like to dump this to a text file. Not certain if this can be done from
the command line > to a text file.
 
thanks
Jackson
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[Veritas-bu] How to create a basic notification script windows

2008-04-25 Thread Jackson, Todd
All,
 
My company will be conducting a very important application DR test
tomorrow.
I want to set up a basic notification script that will email personnel I
want
to inform that the backups have completed. I actually need this done for
two different environments.
 
1) 5.0 mp7  (I know that is terrible)
 
2) 6.0 MP5
 
One of the clients are running exchange if that matters.
I need to create this script for Windows Master ..client is windows
also.
 
Any help is appreciated.
 
Jackson
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[Veritas-bu] User Archiving Issue

2008-04-09 Thread Jackson, Todd
Hello Everyone
 
I have an issue that I created a User Archive Policy for a system 
that accumulates huge logs to clear up space several times a day for
that group when they need to run the job.
 
In my Backup selection I have created /tmp/test for testing purposes.
The job works fin but then I tested on a directory not specified in the
backup 
selection such as /tmp/good_data and the Archive still completed.
 
Any idea why it didn't fail when the backup selection didn't match the
policy?
Any advice is appreciated.
 
Thanks
Jackson 
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[Veritas-bu] Copying Policies to new Master

2008-04-08 Thread Jackson, Todd
Guys,
 
Can anyone tell me how I can copy the Policies over to a new Master?
I don't need to bring in the catalog ... I just want the same policies
and attributes, schedules etc.
Using Windows for bother Masters .. how can I do this?
 
thanks
Jackson
 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] DR testing Solution and Plan

2008-03-07 Thread Jackson, Todd
Right Ed ... the DR site across the street is still on our company
campus.
Currently it is just for testing and provides an alternative if the main
datacenter
has power issues or like you said flood or fire.
 
Right the hot catalog is out with 6 so our media servers are NB 6
version. 
 
After some more research it seems that we may look into Veritas Cluster
Replicator
to update the DR server catalog on a regular. I am also understanding
that NB 6.5 has
resolved the issue of needing the Host Override Options. That you can
restore using a different media server
then the one originally used for the backup.
 
Thanks to both of you for assistance 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] DR testing Solution and Plan


On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:34 PM, bob944 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> and to restore critical data using our DR site across the
> street.


Realizing that this wasn't your point in writing, but... a DR
site

_across the street?_


It depends on the scope of the disaster.  There's nothing wrong with one
across the street if the disaster you're trying to prevent is a fire or
flood in your main data center.  For many companies, having a building
across the street is all they can afford and a *lot* better than no DR
site at all.



> I cannot restore the hot catalog because it is trying to
locate those
> media servers in the database and bombs out.


Why/how?  Your prod media servers aren't still 5.x, are they?


Hot catalog backups were not supported until 6.0.  
 
   .../Ed


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[Veritas-bu] DR testing Solution and Plan

2008-03-06 Thread Jackson, Todd
Hello Everyone
 
I have an issue where I need to provide a relatively quick DR plan
but the issue is a bit difficult to plan a quick and effective solution.
 
We need to provide a solution in case our production Master server goes
down
and to restore critical data using our DR site across the street. The
problem is
that the DR site is not a match of the Production site.
 
Production site
NB 6.0 Master
6 media servers
 
 
DR site
NB 6.0 Master
No media servers
 
 
The Situation
 
I cannot restore the hot catalog because it is trying to locate those
media servers in the database and bombs out.
 
I restored the cold catalog but since we do not delete anything the
catalog is huge (198 GB's)
 
Restoring either catalog is going to take hours because of the size and
trying to rebuild the catalog 
everyday doesn't make sense just to restore current data of one of our
critical systems.
 
I could use the two phase import but that takes time also and I would
like a better solution.
 
 
Ideas
 
I was thinking of using two options ... the first is:
 
Windows NT NetBackup server:
Use the RegEdit application to modify the key

 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\VERITAS\NetBackup\CurrentVersion\Config

 to add the value FORCE_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVER and then set the
 newly added value to fromhost tohost, where fromhost is the media
 server that performed the original backup and tohost is the
 desired media host to use for the restore.

 
The 2nd option is the Host Overide Option
 
bpimage.exe -id media_id -newserver hostname
-oldserver hostname
 
Only problem is that the DR server is the Exact same name as the
Production Master. However I am assuming the 
main thing is to override the media server that the image is assigned
to.

 
Last idea I have is to place a media server in the DR environment
matching one of the production media 
server names. Then only use that media server to back up critical
systems so that it will match the DR site media 
server in the catalog. However this would still involve building the
catalog.
 
 
 
Any opinions or suggestions would be appreciated !!??
 
 
Thanks
Jackson
 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restore Job hung

2008-01-09 Thread Jackson, Todd
Thanks Jeff ... that was a big help



From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 2:42 PM
To: Jackson, Todd; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Restore Job hung



No work around needed.  You basically have to wait for the one stream to
finish before the other one starts.  It will eventually restore (I've
seen it take up to 18 hours because that's how long one stream took to
restore then it started the next stream).   We've never really worried
about it as we usually only see when we're doing a database refresh of
one of our test/training instances from our production instance.

 

I'm not sure you really can work around any way.   You'd have to try to
do individual restores for each stream (backupid) but even then you'd
have to make the restores "per tape" which might not be possible if a
file spanned tapes within one of the streams as is likely the case.   

 

The problem with this is you don't "know" it's the problem until the end
of the stream that has the tape.   You can "predict" it is by verifying
more than one image (stream) uses the same tape but then you have to
cross your fingers that this is in fact the issue and not something
else.   I've seen it frequently enough that once I've done the
"prediction" I am willing to let it go and check the next day for
completion but then again I have that luxury owing to the nature of the
restores.

 

Unfortunately I've never found a way to tell separate streams of the
same backup to NOT use the same tape even after asking that question
here so its something I've learned to live with on the occasions I've
run into it.

 



From: Jackson, Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 2:01 PM
To: Jeff Lightner; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Restore Job hung

 

I think that is exactly the issue. What is the work around here?

To restore a wider range of the data so stream 1 will restore?

 

 

________

From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:47 PM
To: Jackson, Todd; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Restore Job hung

I've seen this kind of hang when the tape is:

Reserved by another job (e.g. duplications)

 

Is used by more than one stream of the original backup you are
restoring.  We've seen this where say the 2nd stream failed and retried
so ended up getting a tape on the retry that was previously used by
stream 1.   In such a case the tape is being held to complete the stream
1 restore even if it is the 3rd tape used for that stream's backup.
Stream 2 won't start until stream 1 restore has completed because the
tape isn't "available" until then.You can check the images for the
backup if it was multistream and see if more than one of the images has
this tape which would tell you this is the case.

 



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Todd
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:22 PM
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restore Job hung

 

Guys,

 

There is a sister company having an issue where they are performing a
restore

from tape that was taken on Dec27th (so not expired) and the job is just
hanging.

It is stating that it is mounting the tape and connected and then
nothing. 

I have created some necessary logs to view more info but if anyone has
dealt with this

before please let me know some general things I can check.

 

Thanks

Jackson

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restore Job hung

2008-01-09 Thread Jackson, Todd
I think that is exactly the issue. What is the work around here?
To restore a wider range of the data so stream 1 will restore?
 



From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:47 PM
To: Jackson, Todd; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Restore Job hung



I've seen this kind of hang when the tape is:

Reserved by another job (e.g. duplications)

 

Is used by more than one stream of the original backup you are
restoring.  We've seen this where say the 2nd stream failed and retried
so ended up getting a tape on the retry that was previously used by
stream 1.   In such a case the tape is being held to complete the stream
1 restore even if it is the 3rd tape used for that stream's backup.
Stream 2 won't start until stream 1 restore has completed because the
tape isn't "available" until then.You can check the images for the
backup if it was multistream and see if more than one of the images has
this tape which would tell you this is the case.

 



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Todd
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:22 PM
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restore Job hung

 

Guys,

 

There is a sister company having an issue where they are performing a
restore

from tape that was taken on Dec27th (so not expired) and the job is just
hanging.

It is stating that it is mounting the tape and connected and then
nothing. 

I have created some necessary logs to view more info but if anyone has
dealt with this

before please let me know some general things I can check.

 

Thanks

Jackson

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[Veritas-bu] Restore Job hung

2008-01-09 Thread Jackson, Todd
Guys,
 
There is a sister company having an issue where they are performing a
restore
from tape that was taken on Dec27th (so not expired) and the job is just
hanging.
It is stating that it is mounting the tape and connected and then
nothing. 
I have created some necessary logs to view more info but if anyone has
dealt with this
before please let me know some general things I can check.
 
Thanks
Jackson
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide

2007-12-21 Thread Jackson, Todd
Did the 6.x pricing guide ever get around? If anyone has it please send
me a copy also.
I don't need the 5.x pricing guide.
 
Jackson



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas pricing guide



If anyone has a copy of a NBU6.0 pricing guide, I would love it. Is this
with the new Symantec SKU numbers. 

Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore & associates, Inc.
Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Tape lifespan

2007-12-17 Thread Jackson, Todd
Personally .. I haven't been in an environment that needed
or kept data over a year. So for me 1 year is the oldest 
data I have in my retention. Normally tape would be sent to disposal 
Or overwritten before a 3-5 year import would be possible. 
 


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To: Josef Weingand
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Tape lifespan

Poll:

What is the oldest tape you have restored from? 1 year? 3 years? 5+?

Justin.

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Josef Weingand wrote:

> The LTO Specs says:
> Long-length durability: 260 full file passes
> Short-length durability:5000 load, unload, and initialization
> cycles
> Limited lifetime warranty: ?
> Archive live:   up to 30 years
>
> Some vendors gives some enhanced specs, like IBM LTO cartridges:
> Long-length durability  300 full file passes
> Short-length durability 20 000 short section durability passes
> Load/unload 20 000 load/unload cycles
> Limited lifetime warranty 5 years (manufacturing defects only)
> Archive live:   up to 30 years
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> Date:
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> Subject:
> Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Tape lifespan
>
>
>
> Yes it does help. Currently this concern is for auditing purposes for a
> tape destruction plan.
> Normally I would use until it dies but here it is regulatory needs. I was
> thinking of setting
> a lifespan between 500-1000 mounts. NB has it set to stop using after 5000
> mounts but I need
> a decent number and wondering if 1000 is expecting a bit much for audits.
>
>
> From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:20 AM
> To: Jackson, Todd; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Media Tape lifespan
>
> Well unless you get problems, then continue to use them where possible.
>
> As soon as I get read / write issues, then its time to throw away
>
> Lifespans of tapes (especially LTO) isnt straight forward as it may seem.
> I think the estimate life is 20 - 30 years. But by then, we would be on
> LTO17 or something like that!
>
> Also, manufacturer of tape may come into question. As a guess, if the tape
> is using 300+ mounts, then your getting good serious use out of the tape.
>
> Hope this may help
> Simon
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>
> How long should you use a media tape such as Quantum LTO2 tapes?
>
> There is no standard concerning this but I have read a few different
> opinions.
> I would think mounts would be more important then writes because reading
> a tape can be just a strenuous to the tape as writing to the tape.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] (no subject)

2007-12-17 Thread Jackson, Todd
Did you check to see if port 13782 is open? This sounds like a network
issue, Maybe
a tcp issue of some sort. Here are some links
 
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/271200.htm
 
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/285057.htm

 
Jackson
 
 
 


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12/16/2007 9:48:15 AM - Error bpbrm(pid=4388) bpcd on aag0j6a05 exited
with status 24: socket write failed 
12/16/2007 9:48:15 AM - started process bpbrm (4388) 
12/16/2007 9:48:15 AM - connecting 
12/16/2007 9:48:15 AM - Error bpbrm(pid=4388) cannot send mail because
BPCD on aag0j6a05 exited with status 24: socket write failed 
12/16/2007 9:48:16 AM - end writing 
socket write failed(24) 
12/16/2007 9:48:19 AM - Error bpsched(pid=3960) suspending further
backup attempts for client aag0j6a05, policy WinNT_d-r, schedule d-r
because it has exceeded the configured number of tries 
12/16/2007 9:48:20 AM - Error bpsched(pid=3960) backup of client
aag0j6a05 exited with status 24 (socket write failed) 



What causes a socket write failed(24) ?   

Anybody ? Help 

Thanks 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup client list dump

2007-12-14 Thread Jackson, Todd
Found something everyone
 
C:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin\admincmd\bpplclients -allunique >
ourclients.out



From: Jackson, Todd 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 1:29 PM
To: 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'
Subject: Netbackup client list dump


Does anyone now how I can dump the clients from host properties
(clients)
to a text file? I need to create a list of all clients that are backed
up by NB for development.
I have many locations to gather but I need a solution.
 
going through host properties> Clients> select File and export only send
the settings and not
the client names.
 
Todd
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Tape lifespan

2007-12-14 Thread Jackson, Todd
Thanks for your help all.
This is one of those judgment calls that you kind of need
to get somewhere in the middle.
Thanks !!!



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Bousselot
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 11:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Tape lifespan


I stopped using my catalog cold backup tapes when they got over 950
mounts, not because they were failing, but because that seemed quite
high compared to other media in my system.  Since I started using the
6.0 hot catalog backup, I'm not using just two pieces of media any more,
so it has managed to spread itself out over about 8 tapes which cycle in
and out of the scratch pool like other media.

For a majority of my 3353 pieces of media, most of them are under 100
mounts after 5 years of use.  A few of them are between 100 and 300
mounts, and when I have discovered bad media it is usually during the
very first write process.  There have been occasions when restoring from
a questionable tape did not work on the first pass, but was successful
on the second pass.  We keep enough backup history on tape to ensure the
one bad media is not the only copy of the file we might need.

I think netbackup increments tape mount every time a tape is inserted in
a drive and the tape header is read.  If you check with the drive and
media manufacturers, they count utilization by head passes.

I'd pick a reasonable number, monitor media errors, and make the case
that a $50 tape cartridge is far cheaper than the time and effort
required to recover from bad media, and run the risk that you won't ever
get it back.
-Jon



That may be about right for LTO - I'd have to check the web but
I would say you could have thousands of mounts for an LTO tape. 300+ is
pretty good, and is probably the starting point for a tape to start
getting some good use.
 
But I am no real expert. Like I said, you could use one tape,
with horrendous problems, and end up chucking it after 10 mounts.
 
Alternatively, one tape could provide 5000+ mounts, and be
trouble free :-) Many companies may have tapes with double or treble
this figure!
 
Normally, manufactures of LTO's product a data sheet for life
span of tapes, cycles ect. May be worth looking into.
 
FYI I have a tape with over 700 mounts - no problems so far.
 
S.

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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 3:23 PM
To: WEAVER, Simon (external);
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Media Tape lifespan


Yes it does help. Currently this concern is for auditing
purposes for a tape destruction plan.
Normally I would use until it dies but here it is
regulatory needs. I was thinking of setting
a lifespan between 500-1000 mounts. NB has it set to
stop using after 5000 mounts but I need 
a decent number and wondering if 1000 is expecting a bit
much for audits.
 



From: WEAVER, Simon (external)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:20 AM
    To: Jackson, Todd; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Media Tape lifespan


Well unless you get problems, then continue to use them
where possible.
 
As soon as I get read / write issues, then its time to
throw away
 
Lifespans of tapes (especially LTO) isnt straight
forward as it may seem. I think the estimate life is 20 - 30 years. But
by then, we would be on LTO17 or something like that!
 
Also, manufacturer of tape may come into question. As a
guess, if the tape is using 300+ mounts, then your getting good serious
use out of the tape.
 
Hope this may help
Simon

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Todd
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 3:16 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media Tape lifespan


How long should you use a media tape such as
Quantum LTO2 tapes?
 
There is no standard concerning this but I have
read a few different opinions.
I would think mounts would be more important
then writes because reading 
   

[Veritas-bu] Netbackup client list dump

2007-12-14 Thread Jackson, Todd
Does anyone now how I can dump the clients from host properties
(clients)
to a text file? I need to create a list of all clients that are backed
up by NB for development.
I have many locations to gather but I need a solution.
 
going through host properties> Clients> select File and export only send
the settings and not
the client names.
 
Todd
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Media Tape lifespan

2007-12-14 Thread Jackson, Todd
Yes it does help. Currently this concern is for auditing purposes for a
tape destruction plan.
Normally I would use until it dies but here it is regulatory needs. I
was thinking of setting
a lifespan between 500-1000 mounts. NB has it set to stop using after
5000 mounts but I need 
a decent number and wondering if 1000 is expecting a bit much for
audits.
 



From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:20 AM
To: Jackson, Todd; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Media Tape lifespan


Well unless you get problems, then continue to use them where possible.
 
As soon as I get read / write issues, then its time to throw away
 
Lifespans of tapes (especially LTO) isnt straight forward as it may
seem. I think the estimate life is 20 - 30 years. But by then, we would
be on LTO17 or something like that!
 
Also, manufacturer of tape may come into question. As a guess, if the
tape is using 300+ mounts, then your getting good serious use out of the
tape.
 
Hope this may help
Simon

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media Tape lifespan


How long should you use a media tape such as Quantum LTO2 tapes?
 
There is no standard concerning this but I have read a few
different opinions.
I would think mounts would be more important then writes because
reading 
a tape can be just a strenuous to the tape as writing to the
tape.
 
If anyone has something in place for tape destruction please
share

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[Veritas-bu] Media Tape lifespan

2007-12-14 Thread Jackson, Todd
How long should you use a media tape such as Quantum LTO2 tapes?
 
There is no standard concerning this but I have read a few different
opinions.
I would think mounts would be more important then writes because reading

a tape can be just a strenuous to the tape as writing to the tape.
 
If anyone has something in place for tape destruction please share
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