Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup

2008-08-01 Thread Jeremy Finn
Curtis,

Thank you for your reply.

I have tried your suggestion and it is working. I see a slight performance
increase when doing the mpx restore now, which should translate to higher
gains when restoring more data.

One more question for everyone: I need to rename files as well. Is the best
option to use bprestore -R  or is there another trick that works
better? Can I use the same rename file for each bprestore command or should
I make one for each stream?

Thanks again,
Jeremy

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Curtis Preston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>  It's been a while since I tested this, but _*I*_ remember that if you
> wanted it to restore the way he wants, you HAD to issue five different
> restores at the same time and use the restore delay feature to start them at
> the same time.  If you just selected five directories, it did them one at a
> time.  That's why I always did my multi-filesystem restores as a loop
>
>
>
> for I in /a /b /c /d /e
>
> do
>
>   bprestore $I
>
> done
>
>
>
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> *Sent:* Friday, August 01, 2008 6:30 AM
> *To:* 'Jeremy Finn'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup
>
>
>
> Do you select all mount points at the same restore?  If yes, then you will
> see only one job, but netbackup will restore all files in one tape pass.
>
>
>
> If you start 5 restores the you have to be fast (every restore must start
> within 30 sec, by default). This can be changed from master server
> properties.
>
> stefanos
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
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> *Sent:* Friday, August 01, 2008 3:26 PM
> *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a standard backup policy configured to stream five mount points to
> one tape drive. This is working fine.
>
> When I do the restore, I only see one stream restoring at a time. Is it
> possible to restore the five streams of data from the multiplexed tape at
> the same time?
>
> Other backup softwarescan do this so I assume Netbackup can as well... if
> some could please point me in the right direction it would be much
> appreciated.
>
> My environment looks like this:
>
> Master: Solaris 10 on SPARC
> Media Server: HP-UX on PA-RISC
> Source Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC
> Target Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC
> Multistream = 5
> Multiplex = 5
> One LTO-1 tape drive
>
> Thank you in advance for any insights.
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup

2008-08-01 Thread Jeremy Finn
Thank you all for your inputs!

I am restoring using the bp restore command. All the mount points are
selected for the one restore job.

./bprestore -C client -D source -f /tmp/restorefiles -R /tmp/rename -l -L
/var/tmp/restore.out

The policy is configured to multiplex five streams to one tape drive. There
is only one client in the policy.

The file list looks like:

/mount/point/1
/mount/point/2
/mount/point/3
/mount/point/4
/mount/point/6
/mount/point/6
 and so on

NBU version is 6.0 MP4.

When I do the restore I am expecting to see all streams as separate jobs in
the activity monitor.  Sounds like I may need to use separate bprestore
commands for each mount point? Hopefully this will not cause additional
mounts/unmounts...

Thanks again,
Jeremy





On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, smpt wrote:
>
>  Do you select all mount points at the same restore?  If yes, then you will
>> see only one job, but netbackup will restore all files in one tape pass.
>>
> Good questions, forgot to ask them :)
>
>>
>>
>>
>> If you start 5 restores the you have to be fast (every restore must start
>> within 30 sec, by default). This can be changed from master server
>> properties.
>>
> MPX_RESTORE_DELAY = 30
>
> Yup, change it in bp.conf.
>
>
>
>> stefanos
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy
>> Finn
>> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:26 PM
>> To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a standard backup policy configured to stream five mount points to
>> one tape drive. This is working fine.
>>
>> When I do the restore, I only see one stream restoring at a time. Is it
>> possible to restore the five streams of data from the multiplexed tape at
>> the same time?
>>
>> Other backup softwarescan do this so I assume Netbackup can as well... if
>> some could please point me in the right direction it would be much
>> appreciated.
>>
>> My environment looks like this:
>>
>> Master: Solaris 10 on SPARC
>> Media Server: HP-UX on PA-RISC
>> Source Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC
>> Target Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC
>> Multistream = 5
>> Multiplex = 5
>> One LTO-1 tape drive
>>
>> Thank you in advance for any insights.
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
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[Veritas-bu] Restoring from Multiplexed Backup

2008-08-01 Thread Jeremy Finn
Hello,

I have a standard backup policy configured to stream five mount points to
one tape drive. This is working fine.

When I do the restore, I only see one stream restoring at a time. Is it
possible to restore the five streams of data from the multiplexed tape at
the same time?

Other backup softwarescan do this so I assume Netbackup can as well... if
some could please point me in the right direction it would be much
appreciated.

My environment looks like this:

Master: Solaris 10 on SPARC
Media Server: HP-UX on PA-RISC
Source Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC
Target Client: HP-UX on PA-RISC
Multistream = 5
Multiplex = 5
One LTO-1 tape drive

Thank you in advance for any insights.

Jeremy
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Drive Multiplexing

2008-07-29 Thread Jeremy Finn
Thanks Justin.

I think using two policies for this going to work. The NEW_STREAM directive
and individual pathnames is streaming five file systems at a time to one
tape drive.

Now on to testing restores!

Thanks again for your help.

Jeremy

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Jeremy Finn wrote:
>
>  Dean and Justin,
>>
>> Thank you very much for your replies.
>>
>> I need to use ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES (I think) because there are two clients in
>> my
>> policy. Basically the backup runs like this:
>>
>> 1. - client1: make clones of production file systems
>> 2. - client2: mount clones of client1's production file systems
>> 3. - client2: back up client1's production file systems to local tape
>> drive
>> 4. - client2: back up client1's root volume group over the network.
>>
>> client1 is only a client, client2 is a client and a media server.
>>
>> Am I able to specify the pathnames in this configuration, or am I stuck
>> with
>> ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Jeremy
>>
>
> Jeremy,
>
> 1. Use two policies.
> 2. mkdir the same mounts on each server
>   (hackish way of doing things, but may be necessary in some cases)
>   As long as the paths exist, empty or not, that will eliminate the need
>   for using ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES.
>
> Is the multiplexing working properly now?
>
> Justin.
>
>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Drive Multiplexing

2008-07-29 Thread Jeremy Finn
Dean and Justin,

Thank you very much for your replies.

I need to use ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES (I think) because there are two clients in my
policy. Basically the backup runs like this:

1. - client1: make clones of production file systems
2. - client2: mount clones of client1's production file systems
3. - client2: back up client1's production file systems to local tape drive
4. - client2: back up client1's root volume group over the network.

client1 is only a client, client2 is a client and a media server.

Am I able to specify the pathnames in this configuration, or am I stuck with
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?

Thanks again,
Jeremy

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Dean wrote:
>
>  I don't really know why you would be getting 5 streams per mount point. I
>> have never seen this. But then, I haven't messed with include and exclude
>> lists like you describe.
>>
>> Why not just setup a policy with the five mount points you want to backup
>> specified in it's selection list? With "allow multiple data streams"
>> enabled, you *should* get one stream per mount point. If I remember
>> correctly, you will need a NEW_STREAM directive before each mount point in
>> the selection list. (it's been a while)
>>
>> NEW_STREAM
>> /mount_point_1
>> NEW_STREAM
>> /mount_point_2
>> ...
>> etc
>>
> With >= 5.1 I do not think this is required anymore.
> (e.g. the NEW_STREAM directive is not needed)
>
> With <= 4.5_FPX I think it was required.
>
> But agree with the concept, yup!
>
>
>
>> Then you can throttle the amount of streams you actually want mlutiplexed
>> to
>> tape at one time at the schedule level or the storage unit level.
>>
>> Symantec's advice seems wrong to me. I guess they misunderstood what you
>> are
>> trying to achieve. Turning off multi-streaming in the policy will mean the
>> whole backup is a single stream, as you are seeing.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dean
>>
>>
>
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[Veritas-bu] Drive Multiplexing

2008-07-29 Thread Jeremy Finn
Hello,

I am trying to achieve the streaming of five mount points on an HP-UX client
to one LTO-1 tape drive.  I have run into a strange issue though.

If I set multistreaming to five, and multiplexing to five, I see each stream
as a job in the activity monitor. However, NBU is breaking up each mount
point into five streams - not what I want. I want one stream for each mount
point.

Symantec support has instructed me to turn off multistreaming in the policy,
and leave multiplexing set to five. When I do this, there is only one job in
the activity monitor for the client, and I cannot verify that I am
multiplexing the mount points to the tape drive. Also performance is not
what it should be for this backup, running at 13 hours instead of the five
or six I would normally expect for roughly 420 gb of data.

My environment looks like this:

Master = SPARC / Solaris 10 / NBU 6.0 MP4
Media Server = PA-RISC / HP-UX 11.11 / NBU 6.0 MP 4
Client = PA-RISC / HP-UX 11.11 / NBU 6.0 MP 4

I am using the ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES directive, with an exclude_list of "/". I
have an include_list that specifies the mount points I want to back up.

Does anyone have any suggestions that will help me to verify that I am in
fact multiplexing the mount points to the tape drive during the backup?

Any suggestions and feedback are welcome. Thank you for your help.

Regards,
Jeremy
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