Re: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based backup

2006-06-15 Thread Marks, Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO
Which run days did you have checked.  The one for the start of the start
windows,  The end day of the start window or both.  Were you trying to
get more than one full per week?  I am using Solaris 9 just like you.  I
have tried both the windows and the java gui's.  I also had no rerun
after run date.  I only saw the issue when I only had one run day
checked.

At first the run day was always the end of the start window but the
other 2 variations gave me the same issues.  I am using a binary from
mp3 to fix vault/duplicate issues as well.  (nbrb for Solaris)  That
issue did not exist in 6.0 or mp1.  I would be happy to send it to you
for additional testing if you still can not duplicate the problem.
After a bit of work Support was able to duplicate the issue and once
they did it was difficult to clear it up for them.

Thanks for your effort I understand if you are satisfied with your
findings.


Here is a bppllist -byclient aivas -L
For a working policy.  This policy does not work when I change the
window to span from Friday to all day Saturday.


Policy Name:   aivas
Options:   0x0
template:  FALSE
c_unused1: ?
Names: (none)
Policy Type:   MS-Windows-NT (13)
Active:yes
Effective date:05/24/2004 00:00:00
Backup netwrk drvs:no
Collect TIR info:  no
Mult. Data Stream: no
Perform Snapshot Backup:   no
Snapshot Method:   (none)
Snapshot Method Arguments: (none)
Perform Offhost Backup:no
Backup Copy:   0
Use Data Mover:no
Data Mover Type:   0
Use Alternate Client:  no
Alternate Client Name: (none)
Enable Instant Recovery:   no
Policy Priority:   0
Max Jobs/Policy:   Unlimited
Disaster Recovery: 0
Collect BMR Info:  no
Keyword:   BMR Test Windows 2003 Box
Client Encrypt:no
Checkpoint:no
Residence: whitedragon_LTO2
Volume Pool:   Full_Library_WIN
Client/HW/OS/Pri:  aivas PC WindowsNET 0 0 0 0 ?
Include:   C:\ECC\*
Include:   C:\FabricManager\*
Include:   C:\Program Files\ECC\*
Include:   C:\Program Files\EMC\*
Exclude:   (none defined)
Schedule:  Full_Library
  Type:FULL (0)
  Calendar sched: Enabled
Friday, Week 1
Friday, Week 2
Friday, Week 3
Friday, Week 4
Friday, Week 5
  Maximum MPX: 1
  Synthetic:   0
  PFI Recovery:0
  Retention Level: 4 (2 months)
  u-wind/o/d:  0 0
  Incr Type:   DELTA (0)
  Alt Read Host:   (none defined)
  Max Frag Size:   0 MB
  Number Copies:   1
  Fail on Error:   0
  Residence:   (specific storage unit not required)
  Volume Pool: (same as policy volume pool)
  Daily Windows:
   Day Open   Close   W-Open W-Close
   Sunday  000:00:00  000:00:00
   Monday  000:00:00  000:00:00
   Tuesday 000:00:00  000:00:00
   Wednesday   000:00:00  000:00:00
   Thursday000:00:00  000:00:00
   Friday  017:00:00  024:00:00   137:00:00  144:00:00  
   Saturday000:00:00  000:00:00
Schedule:  Cumulative_Inc
  Type:CINC (4)
  Calendar sched: Enabled
Monday, Week 1
Tuesday, Week 1
Wednesday, Week 1
Thursday, Week 1
Monday, Week 2
Tuesday, Week 2
Wednesday, Week 2
Thursday, Week 2
Monday, Week 3
Tuesday, Week 3
Wednesday, Week 3
Thursday, Week 3Monday, Week 4
Tuesday, Week 4
Wednesday, Week 4
Thursday, Week 4
Monday, Week 5
Tuesday, Week 5
Wednesday, Week 5
Thursday, Week 5
  Maximum MPX: 1
  Synthetic:   0
  PFI Recovery:0
  Retention Level: 1 (2 weeks)
  u-wind/o/d:  0 0
  Incr Type:   DELTA (0)
  Alt Read Host:   (none defined)
  Max Frag Size:   0 MB
  Number Copies:   1
  Fail on Error:   0
  Residence:   (specific storage unit not required)
  Volume Pool: (same as policy volume pool)
  Daily Windows:
   Day Open   Close   W-Open W-Close
   Sunday  000:00:00  000:00:00
   Monday  004:00:00  010:00:00   028:00:00  034:00:00  
   Tuesday 004:00:00  010:00:00   052:00:00  058:00:00  
   Wednesday   004:00:00  010:00:00   076:00:00  082:00:00  
   Thursday004:00:00  010:00:00   100:00:00  106:00:00  
   Friday  000:00:00  000:00:00
   Saturday000:00:00  000:00:00

-Jonathan Marks (970)295-5362


-Original Message-
From: bob944 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:40 AM
To: Marks, Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO; 'Tristan Ball';
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based backup


> Support had me stop Netbackup and remove the file and then start 
> Netbackup.  I was told it would recreate that "pempersist"
> file.  It did
> recreate the file but did not help get my fulls to run.  I was using 
> nbpemreq -predict -date XX/XX/ XX:XX:XX with different dates and 
> times to try and forecast what would run.  I was very care

Re: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based backup

2006-06-14 Thread Marks, Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO
Support had me stop Netbackup and remove the file and then start
Netbackup.  I was told it would recreate that "pempersist" file.  It did
recreate the file but did not help get my fulls to run.  I was using
nbpemreq -predict -date XX/XX/ XX:XX:XX with different dates and
times to try and forecast what would run.  I was very careful to use the
-updatepolicies after any changes I made.  This is important to note
since there is a small possibility that some of the errors I saw after
the initial failure was from the nbpemreq command.  I tried to wait and
see if the fulls ran at all, but after making a few changes such as the
pempersist and waiting a week and then trying something else, I had to
change my policies in order to have data backed up.  

I was always able to manually run the policy.  Which I did for all
affected policies when I discovered the issue.

-Jonathan Marks


-Original Message-
From: Tristan Ball [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:33 PM
To: Marks, Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based backup

I've had similar experiences with 6.0mp2, both calender and frequency
based schedules.

It seems that the PEM gets confused about which schedules are
running/have run. For us, the fix has been to shut down netbackup, then
edit the bin/bpshed.d/pempersist file, removing the entries (and
subsequent blank lines) for the schedules that were miss-behaving.

T. 


 
---
Tristan Ball
System Administrator
Vision Systems
+61-3-9211-7064
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marks,
Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO
Sent: Wednesday, 14 June 2006 9:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based backup

 I do not have documentation for my specific error.  I called in Case
280-593-264 to Veritas support for help with my issue.  I have used
calendar based scheduling for 3 years now and have used it on 5.0 mpX,
5.1 mp2-3 and now 6.0mp2.  When I upgraded from version 5.1mp3 to 6.0mp2
all of my Full_library backups that crossed midnight stopped spawning
jobs.  There were no errors, but policies that met the Full spanning
midnight criteria just did not run.

I had a cumulative policy start windows Mon-Fri 4:00-10:00 and the
calendar settings checked for re-occurring Mon-Fri.  I also had a full
policy with start window Fri 20:00 - Sat 23:59 and the calendar settings
checked for Sat.  I dropped the Fri start window and removed the Friday
calendar schedule from the cumulative.  I then added the Friday check
boxes to the calendar schedule for full.  I stopped everything and
restarted but I could not get any fulls to run.

It seems to me and according to eh SAG vol1 that I should have had two
fulls running one on Friday late and one sometime on Saturday.  Neither
occurred. 

I tried just about everything to get at least one full backup to work
with the start windows set to span midnight.  Support had me try many
things too.  If I checked the full's calendar schedule for all days
things would run in the window I had set.  Is that the way it is
supposed to work?  Should you need to check all the days to get a full
just because you have the midnight start window crossed.  That was not
my understanding.  I then modified the schedule and set the full start
window to Fri 20:00-23:59 and removed the Saturday Check boxes from the
re-occurring schedule, bing things started to work.  I discussed this
with support and was told to change everything to not cross the midnight
boundary.  This boundary issue for lack of a better description was
affecting 26 policies here.

It always seemed like the policy thought that the other day Fri or
Saturday what ever day it was not was the one who owned the start
window.  It did not create two jobs as one may expect.  It created none.

The SAG vol1 says that if you want a policy to cross midnight on a
single backup attempt you should use Frequency based scheduling with a
frequency of 1 day instead. 

I was unable to get 6.0mp2 calendar configured with fulls crossing the
boundary line.  I tried new policies but still ran into the same
problems.  Support was able to duplicate the problem.  I asked for a
document or something that would state the condition that caused the
fulls not to run but received a "We will continue looking at this, do
you mind if we close the call"  Any suggestion on things to try I am
still game.  I think the midnight issue must be some strange thing I
missed and would be over joyed the figure out what was wrong.  I
responded since the issue sounded the same as mine and the user may have
made what ever strange checks I did.  I for lack of time only provided
the solution and the go away response I was given from Symantec.


-Jonathan Marks


-Original Message-
From: bob944 [mailto:[

Re: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based backup

2006-06-13 Thread Marks, Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO
 I do not have documentation for my specific error.  I called in Case
280-593-264 to Veritas support for help with my issue.  I have used
calendar based scheduling for 3 years now and have used it on 5.0 mpX,
5.1 mp2-3 and now 6.0mp2.  When I upgraded from version 5.1mp3 to 6.0mp2
all of my Full_library backups that crossed midnight stopped spawning
jobs.  There were no errors, but policies that met the Full spanning
midnight criteria just did not run.

I had a cumulative policy start windows Mon-Fri 4:00-10:00 and the
calendar settings checked for re-occurring Mon-Fri.  I also had a full
policy with start window Fri 20:00 - Sat 23:59 and the calendar settings
checked for Sat.  I dropped the Fri start window and removed the Friday
calendar schedule from the cumulative.  I then added the Friday check
boxes to the calendar schedule for full.  I stopped everything and
restarted but I could not get any fulls to run.

It seems to me and according to eh SAG vol1 that I should have had two
fulls running one on Friday late and one sometime on Saturday.  Neither
occurred. 

I tried just about everything to get at least one full backup to work
with the start windows set to span midnight.  Support had me try many
things too.  If I checked the full's calendar schedule for all days
things would run in the window I had set.  Is that the way it is
supposed to work?  Should you need to check all the days to get a full
just because you have the midnight start window crossed.  That was not
my understanding.  I then modified the schedule and set the full start
window to Fri 20:00-23:59 and removed the Saturday Check boxes from the
re-occurring schedule, bing things started to work.  I discussed this
with support and was told to change everything to not cross the midnight
boundary.  This boundary issue for lack of a better description was
affecting 26 policies here.

It always seemed like the policy thought that the other day Fri or
Saturday what ever day it was not was the one who owned the start
window.  It did not create two jobs as one may expect.  It created none.

The SAG vol1 says that if you want a policy to cross midnight on a
single backup attempt you should use Frequency based scheduling with a
frequency of 1 day instead. 

I was unable to get 6.0mp2 calendar configured with fulls crossing the
boundary line.  I tried new policies but still ran into the same
problems.  Support was able to duplicate the problem.  I asked for a
document or something that would state the condition that caused the
fulls not to run but received a "We will continue looking at this, do
you mind if we close the call"  Any suggestion on things to try I am
still game.  I think the midnight issue must be some strange thing I
missed and would be over joyed the figure out what was wrong.  I
responded since the issue sounded the same as mine and the user may have
made what ever strange checks I did.  I for lack of time only provided
the solution and the go away response I was given from Symantec.


-Jonathan Marks


-Original Message-
From: bob944 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:54 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based backup

> If you are using Netbackup 6.0 you can not have your start window 
> cross midnight.  I was told that it is bad practice.  I think 
> Netbackup has gone goofy.

And your documentation is what, exactly? 

If this is fact, _I_ want to know about it; please provide a pointer to
your documentation and I'll apologize for the next sentence.  If this
extraordinary claim is an area of NetBackup you don't yet understand,
but you are happy to spread it as fact on a world-wide mailing list
without knowing if it's true or not, do you think that's useful?  

Backup windows can span any number of midnights.  (Ref: SAG Volume I.)
If you don't thoroughly understand calendar-based scheduling, the
behavior of calendar-based-schedule backup windows spanning midnight may
surprise you.  Since that behavior usually isn't what users intend, best
practice for many is not to span midnight when using calendar-based, in
which case calendar-based works as the user expects.  (Ref:  every
person I ever knew who tried moving from freq to cal schedules.)



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Re: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based backupschedule.bppllist included.

2006-06-13 Thread Marks, Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO
I am not sure allow is the correct word.  If I scheduled a full backup
to run across midnight and checked both days in the calendar schedule
then I had an issue where the backup job never ran.  I did not fail or
anything it just did not run.  The interface would allow me to configure
the policy and recreating the policy did not change the effects.  I
spoke with Netbackup and the fix the gave me (work around) was not to
cross the midnight boundary.


-Jonathan Marks 


-Original Message-
From: Steve Beuttel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:31 AM
To: Marks, Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO
Cc: Bob Stump; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based
backupschedule.bppllist included.

I'm sorry ... did I read correctly that you have verified that NBU 6.0
will not allow a start window to cross midnight? And someone actually
told you that was a feature because to do so is a "bad practice"?

Is this common experience?

Thanks,
-Steve-




Bob Stump wrote:
> goofy isn't the word I was thinking ofbad prcatice to do backups 
> from 6PM to 6AM
>  
> anyhow. I should have included that I am using NB5.1_MP4
>  
>  
>  
>
>
> >>> "Marks, Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 6/13/2006 12:02 PM >>>
> If you are using Netbackup 6.0 you can not have your start window 
> cross midnight.  I was told that it is bad practice.  I think 
> Netbackup has gone goofy.
>  
>
> -Jonathan Marks
>  
>
> *From:* Bob Stump [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2006 4:02 PM
> *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based backup 
> schedule.bppllist included.
>
> I have years of experience with frequency based scheduling but I have 
> always shied away from calendar based. Today I made my first attempt 
> and I cannot see where I made a mistake. Please review this and help 
> me if you can. Thanks.
>  
>  
> Here is the problem
> The calendar based backup started on the first day that I made this 
> policy active even though it is not suppose to be active until the 
> last Monday of the month.
>  
> Here is the strategy
> 1. full backup every monday night excluding last monday of the month 
> with 1 month retention
>allow tuesday full for any failures that may occur on monday 3. 
> last monday of each month run a calendar full backup with 3 month 
> retention
>retries allowed after runday which would be tuesday night.
> 2. incremental backup every night except monday nights with 1 month 
> retention
>  
> Here is the bppllist:
> Policy Name:   groupwise01-09
>  
>   Policy Type: Standard
>   Active:  yes
>   Effective date:  06/12/2006 08:00:00
>   Client Compress: no
>   Follow NFS Mounts:   no
>   Cross Mount Points:  no
>   Collect TIR info:no
>   Block Incremental:   no
>   Mult. Data Streams:  yes
>   Client Encrypt:  no
>   Checkpoint:  no
>   Policy Priority: 25
>   Max Jobs/Policy: Unlimited
>   Disaster Recovery:   0
>   Residence:   dssu_grp
>   Volume Pool: Novell
>   Keyword: (none specified)
>  
>   HW/OS/Client:  NovellNetWare   gw01
>  NovellNetWare   gw02
>  NovellNetWare   gw03
>  NovellNetWare   gw04
>  NovellNetWare   gw05
>  NovellNetWare   gw06
>  NovellNetWare   gw07
>  NovellNetWare   gw08
>  NovellNetWare   gw09
>  
>   Include:  /FS
>  
>   Schedule:  17.30_mon_calendar
> Type:Full Backup
> Maximum MPX: 10
> Synthetic:   0
> PFI Recovery:0
> Retention Level: 5 (3 months)
> Number Copies:   1
> Fail on Error:   0
> Residence:   dssu04
> Volume Pool: (same as policy volume pool)
> Calendar sched: Enabled
>   Allowed to retry after run day
>   SPECIFIC DATE 0 - 06/26/2006
>   SPECIFIC DATE 1 - 07/31/2006
>   SPECIFIC DATE 2 - 08/28/2006
>   SPECIFIC DATE 3 - 09/25/2006
>   SPECIFIC DATE 4 - 10/30/2006
>   SPECIFIC DATE 5 - 11/27/2006
>   SPECIFIC DATE 6 - 12/25/2006
>   Monday, Week 5
> Daily Windows:
>   Monday 18:30:00  -->  Tuesday04:00:00
>   Tuesday17:30:00  -->  Wednesday  04:00:00
>  
>   Schedule:  17.30_mon_full
> Type:Full Backup
> Frequency:   every 5 days
>

Re: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based backupschedule.bppllist included.

2006-06-13 Thread Marks, Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO



I did not have any 
problems with Pre 6.0 crossing the midnight boundary.
 
-Jonathan Marks (970)295-5362
 


From: Bob Stump [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 
June 13, 2006 10:21 AMTo: Marks, Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO; 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] whats 
wrong with my calendar based backupschedule.bppllist included.

goofy isn't the word I was thinking ofbad prcatice to do backups from 
6PM to 6AM
 
anyhow. I should have included that I am using NB5.1_MP4
 
 
 
>>> "Marks, Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/13/2006 12:02 PM >>>

If you are using 
Netbackup 6.0 you can not have your start window cross midnight.  I was 
told that it is bad practice.  I think Netbackup has gone 
goofy.
 
-Jonathan Marks (970)295-5362
 


From: Bob Stump [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 
June 12, 2006 4:02 PMTo: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong 
with my calendar based backup schedule.bppllist included.

I have years of experience with frequency based scheduling but I have 
always shied away from calendar based. Today I made my first attempt and I 
cannot see where I made a mistake. Please review this and help me if you can. 
Thanks.
 
 
Here is the problemThe calendar based backup started on the first day 
that I made this policy active even though it is not suppose to be active until 
the last Monday of the month.
 
Here is the strategy1. full backup every monday night excluding last 
monday of the month with 1 month retention   allow tuesday full 
for any failures that may occur on monday3. last monday of each month run a 
calendar full backup with 3 month retention   retries allowed 
after runday which would be tuesday night.2. incremental backup every night 
except monday nights with 1 month retention
 
Here is the bppllist:Policy Name:   
groupwise01-09
 
  Policy Type: 
Standard  
Active:  
yes  Effective date:  06/12/2006 
08:00:00  Client Compress: no  Follow 
NFS Mounts:   no  Cross Mount Points:  no  
Collect TIR info:    no  Block Incremental:   
no  Mult. Data Streams:  yes  Client 
Encrypt:  no  
Checkpoint:  no  
Policy Priority: 25  Max 
Jobs/Policy: Unlimited  Disaster 
Recovery:   0  
Residence:   
dssu_grp  Volume Pool: 
Novell  
Keyword: 
(none specified)
 
  HW/OS/Client:  Novell    
NetWare   
gw01 
Novell    
NetWare   
gw02 
Novell    
NetWare   
gw03 
Novell    
NetWare   
gw04 
Novell    
NetWare   
gw05 
Novell    
NetWare   
gw06 
Novell    
NetWare   
gw07 
Novell    
NetWare   
gw08 
Novell    
NetWare   gw09
 
  Include:  /FS
 
  Schedule:  
17.30_mon_calendar    
Type:    Full 
Backup    Maximum MPX: 
10    Synthetic:   
0    PFI Recovery:    0    
Retention Level: 5 (3 months)    Number Copies:   
1    Fail on Error:   0    
Residence:   dssu04    
Volume Pool: (same as policy volume 
pool)    Calendar sched: 
Enabled  Allowed to retry after run 
day  SPECIFIC DATE 0 - 
06/26/2006  SPECIFIC DATE 1 - 
07/31/2006  SPECIFIC DATE 2 - 
08/28/2006  SPECIFIC DATE 3 - 
09/25/2006  SPECIFIC DATE 4 - 
10/30/2006  SPECIFIC DATE 5 - 
11/27/2006  SPECIFIC DATE 6 - 
12/25/2006  Monday, Week 
5    Daily 
Windows:  
Monday 18:30:00  -->  
Tuesday    
04:00:00  
Tuesday    17:30:00  -->  Wednesday  
04:00:00
 
  Schedule:  
17.30_mon_full    
Type:    Full 
Backup    Frequency:   
every 5 days    Maximum MPX: 
10    Synthetic:   
0    PFI Recovery:    0    
Retention Level: 3 (1 month)    Number Copies:   
1    Fail on Error:   0    
Residence:   dssu04    
Volume Pool: (same as policy volume 
pool)  EXCLUDE DATE 0 - 
06/26/2006  EXCLUDE DATE 1 - 
07/31/2006  EXCLUDE DATE 2 - 
08/28/2006  EXCLUDE DATE 3 - 
09/25/2006  EXCLUDE DATE 4 - 
10/30/2006  EXCLUDE DATE 5 - 
11/27/2006  EXCLUDE DATE 6 - 
12/25/2006    Daily 
Windows:  
Monday 17:20:00  -->  
Tuesday    
04:00:00  
Tuesday    17:30:00  -->  Wednesday  
04:00:00
 
  Schedule:  
17.30_mon_inc    
Type:    
Differential Incremental Backup    
Frequency:   every 12 
hours    Maximum MPX: 
10    Synthetic:   
0    PFI Recovery:    0    
Retention Level: 3 (1 month)    Number Copies:   
1    Fail on Error:   0    
Residence:   (specific storage unit not 
required)    Volume Pool: (same as 
policy volume pool)    Daily 
Windows:  
Sunday 17:30:00  -->  
Monday 
04:00:00  
Tuesday    17:30:00  -->  Wednesday  
04:00:00  
Wednesday  17:30:00  -->  Thursday   
04:00:00  
Thu

Re: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong with my calendar based backup schedule.bppllist included.

2006-06-13 Thread Marks, Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO



If you are using 
Netbackup 6.0 you can not have your start window cross midnight.  I was 
told that it is bad practice.  I think Netbackup has gone 
goofy.
 
-Jonathan Marks (970)295-5362
 


From: Bob Stump [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 
June 12, 2006 4:02 PMTo: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] whats wrong 
with my calendar based backup schedule.bppllist included.

I have years of experience with frequency based scheduling but I have 
always shied away from calendar based. Today I made my first attempt and I 
cannot see where I made a mistake. Please review this and help me if you can. 
Thanks.
 
 
Here is the problemThe calendar based backup started on the first day 
that I made this policy active even though it is not suppose to be active until 
the last Monday of the month.
 
Here is the strategy1. full backup every monday night excluding last 
monday of the month with 1 month retention   allow tuesday full 
for any failures that may occur on monday3. last monday of each month run a 
calendar full backup with 3 month retention   retries allowed 
after runday which would be tuesday night.2. incremental backup every night 
except monday nights with 1 month retention
 
Here is the bppllist:Policy Name:   
groupwise01-09
 
  Policy Type: 
Standard  
Active:  
yes  Effective date:  06/12/2006 
08:00:00  Client Compress: no  Follow 
NFS Mounts:   no  Cross Mount Points:  no  
Collect TIR info:    no  Block Incremental:   
no  Mult. Data Streams:  yes  Client 
Encrypt:  no  
Checkpoint:  no  
Policy Priority: 25  Max 
Jobs/Policy: Unlimited  Disaster 
Recovery:   0  
Residence:   
dssu_grp  Volume Pool: 
Novell  
Keyword: 
(none specified)
 
  HW/OS/Client:  Novell    
NetWare   
gw01 
Novell    
NetWare   
gw02 
Novell    
NetWare   
gw03 
Novell    
NetWare   
gw04 
Novell    
NetWare   
gw05 
Novell    
NetWare   
gw06 
Novell    
NetWare   
gw07 
Novell    
NetWare   
gw08 
Novell    
NetWare   gw09
 
  Include:  /FS
 
  Schedule:  
17.30_mon_calendar    
Type:    Full 
Backup    Maximum MPX: 
10    Synthetic:   
0    PFI Recovery:    0    
Retention Level: 5 (3 months)    Number Copies:   
1    Fail on Error:   0    
Residence:   dssu04    
Volume Pool: (same as policy volume 
pool)    Calendar sched: 
Enabled  Allowed to retry after run 
day  SPECIFIC DATE 0 - 
06/26/2006  SPECIFIC DATE 1 - 
07/31/2006  SPECIFIC DATE 2 - 
08/28/2006  SPECIFIC DATE 3 - 
09/25/2006  SPECIFIC DATE 4 - 
10/30/2006  SPECIFIC DATE 5 - 
11/27/2006  SPECIFIC DATE 6 - 
12/25/2006  Monday, Week 
5    Daily 
Windows:  
Monday 18:30:00  -->  
Tuesday    
04:00:00  
Tuesday    17:30:00  -->  Wednesday  
04:00:00
 
  Schedule:  
17.30_mon_full    
Type:    Full 
Backup    Frequency:   
every 5 days    Maximum MPX: 
10    Synthetic:   
0    PFI Recovery:    0    
Retention Level: 3 (1 month)    Number Copies:   
1    Fail on Error:   0    
Residence:   dssu04    
Volume Pool: (same as policy volume 
pool)  EXCLUDE DATE 0 - 
06/26/2006  EXCLUDE DATE 1 - 
07/31/2006  EXCLUDE DATE 2 - 
08/28/2006  EXCLUDE DATE 3 - 
09/25/2006  EXCLUDE DATE 4 - 
10/30/2006  EXCLUDE DATE 5 - 
11/27/2006  EXCLUDE DATE 6 - 
12/25/2006    Daily 
Windows:  
Monday 17:20:00  -->  
Tuesday    
04:00:00  
Tuesday    17:30:00  -->  Wednesday  
04:00:00
 
  Schedule:  
17.30_mon_inc    
Type:    
Differential Incremental Backup    
Frequency:   every 12 
hours    Maximum MPX: 
10    Synthetic:   
0    PFI Recovery:    0    
Retention Level: 3 (1 month)    Number Copies:   
1    Fail on Error:   0    
Residence:   (specific storage unit not 
required)    Volume Pool: (same as 
policy volume pool)    Daily 
Windows:  
Sunday 17:30:00  -->  
Monday 
04:00:00  
Tuesday    17:30:00  -->  Wednesday  
04:00:00  
Wednesday  17:30:00  -->  Thursday   
04:00:00  
Thursday   17:30:00  -->  Friday 
04:00:00  
Friday 17:30:00  -->  Saturday   
04:00:00  
Saturday   17:30:00  -->  Sunday 
04:00:00
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Re: [Veritas-bu] policies not running

2006-06-13 Thread Marks, Jonathan - Fort Collins, CO
Title: Message



I have had this problem since going to 6.0.  On my 
systems I found it occurs when I have a start time that crosses midnight.  
I rebalanced my jobs so they do not cross midnight and all work 
well.
 
-Jonathan Marks (970)295-5362
 

 

I 
knew there was something I forgot! and if this still does not work... try 
creating a new Policy. I have definetely seen a corrupt policy where nothing 
would run, but re-creating has solved 
it!
Regards
Simon 
Weaver3rd 
Line Technical SupportWindows Domain 
Administrator 

EADS 
Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage 
Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
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  -Original 
  Message-From: Wilkinson, 
  Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2006 06:54To: Lewick, Taylor; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] policies not 
  running
  Taylor,
   
  We had this in NBU6 
  but it turned out we were using frequency with the frequency set too high. For 
  weeklies, we had it set to a frequency of 1 week, which was falling outside of 
  the start window; we set it to 3 days and it runs fine 
  now.
   
  Cheers,
   
  Tim
   
  
  
  
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lewick, TaylorSent: Tuesday, 13 June 2006 6:35 
  AMTo: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] policies not 
  running
  In NetBackup 5.1 MP 
  4, we are experiencing a recent issue where some policies are not 
  starting.
   
  Schedules are set 
  well, policies are active, clients are correct, these jobs don't error, they 
  just never start.  Anyone else seeing this, and any idea what to check 
  for?
  Thanks,
  Taylor

  
  
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