Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup change policy attribute question
There is no contradiction between your understanding and bpexpdate -recalculate. The original question was about policy settings (not retention levels) and change in the policy will not be propagated. The change in retention levels will be propagated but will affect all backups of all policies which are using the affected retention level. So if expiration date need to be changed for a subset of images covered by one policy the right way to do it is using the bpexpdate -recalculate command with -policy switch. WBR, Mikhail On 18/07/2014 9:48 PM, Linda Boughner linda.bough...@durham.ca wrote: No, but it is my understanding that if you change the Retention Period for a Retention Level under Master Server Host Properties, that will change the period for all existing images, regardless of the policy, backed up under that level. FYI, Linda -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Mikhail Nikitin Sent: July-17-14 10:30 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup change policy attribute question Hi, No, NetBackup does not propagate changes in retention retrospectively. If you need to change retention of existing images, you need to run bpexpdate with the -recalculate switch for the images in question. On 3 Jul 2014, at 3:56 am, settler nbu-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote: If I change the retention attributes on an existing policy, do the retention attributes apply to that which was backed up prior to making the change? e.g. if I change retention attributes from 1 year, to 45 days, will data older than 45 days that has been backed up prior to making the policy change expire out naturally. Conversely, if I change the attributes from 45 days to 1 year, will the data that was backed up prior to the policy change abide to the new policy. +- +- |This was sent by jgwho...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +- +- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup change policy attribute question
As Mikhail states changing the RL setting within a policy only changes backups from that point on. Changing RL period for the RL itself changes it for all items with that RL. Although the RL has a period listed it is actually the RL number you see that is stored so changing the RL’s period changes it for all backups with that RL number. Note that there are multiple retention levels available and the period can be changedon each so you can have multiple RLs with the same retention period. For example in our environment we only keep our on site backups on deduplication appliance so all the RLs we define for use of the original backups have 2 weeks. The reason we use multiple RLs each with 2 weeks is because we then vault the images to tape to be sent offsite and have varying offsite retention policies (e.g. 3 months, 9 months, 1 year, infinity). Vaulting allows one to map the original image RL to a separate duplication RL. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Mikhail Nikitin Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 8:53 AM To: Linda Boughner Cc: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup change policy attribute question There is no contradiction between your understanding and bpexpdate -recalculate. The original question was about policy settings (not retention levels) and change in the policy will not be propagated. The change in retention levels will be propagated but will affect all backups of all policies which are using the affected retention level. So if expiration date need to be changed for a subset of images covered by one policy the right way to do it is using the bpexpdate -recalculate command with -policy switch. WBR, Mikhail On 18/07/2014 9:48 PM, Linda Boughner linda.bough...@durham.camailto:linda.bough...@durham.ca wrote: No, but it is my understanding that if you change the Retention Period for a Retention Level under Master Server Host Properties, that will change the period for all existing images, regardless of the policy, backed up under that level. FYI, Linda -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Mikhail Nikitin Sent: July-17-14 10:30 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDUmailto:VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup change policy attribute question Hi, No, NetBackup does not propagate changes in retention retrospectively. If you need to change retention of existing images, you need to run bpexpdate with the -recalculate switch for the images in question. On 3 Jul 2014, at 3:56 am, settler nbu-fo...@backupcentral.commailto:nbu-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote: If I change the retention attributes on an existing policy, do the retention attributes apply to that which was backed up prior to making the change? e.g. if I change retention attributes from 1 year, to 45 days, will data older than 45 days that has been backed up prior to making the policy change expire out naturally. Conversely, if I change the attributes from 45 days to 1 year, will the data that was backed up prior to the policy change abide to the new policy. +- +- |This was sent by jgwho...@gmail.commailto:jgwho...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.commailto:ab...@backupcentral.com. +- +- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Athena®, Created for the Cause™ Making a Difference in the Fight Against Breast Cancer _ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Netbackup change policy attribute question
If I change the retention attributes on an existing policy, do the retention attributes apply to that which was backed up prior to making the change? e.g. if I change retention attributes from 1 year, to 45 days, will data older than 45 days that has been backed up prior to making the policy change expire out naturally. Conversely, if I change the attributes from 45 days to 1 year, will the data that was backed up prior to the policy change abide to the new policy. +-- |This was sent by jgwho...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup change policy attribute question
Hi, No, NetBackup does not propagate changes in retention retrospectively. If you need to change retention of existing images, you need to run bpexpdate with the -recalculate switch for the images in question. On 3 Jul 2014, at 3:56 am, settler nbu-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote: If I change the retention attributes on an existing policy, do the retention attributes apply to that which was backed up prior to making the change? e.g. if I change retention attributes from 1 year, to 45 days, will data older than 45 days that has been backed up prior to making the policy change expire out naturally. Conversely, if I change the attributes from 45 days to 1 year, will the data that was backed up prior to the policy change abide to the new policy. +-- |This was sent by jgwho...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu