Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup change policy attribute question

2014-07-18 Thread Mikhail Nikitin
There is no contradiction between your understanding and bpexpdate
-recalculate.
The original question was about policy settings (not retention levels) and
change in the policy will not be propagated. The change in retention levels
will be propagated but will affect all backups of all policies which are
using the affected retention level.

So if expiration date need to be changed for a subset of images covered by
one policy the right way to do it is using the bpexpdate -recalculate
command with -policy switch.

WBR, Mikhail
On 18/07/2014 9:48 PM, Linda Boughner linda.bough...@durham.ca wrote:

 No, but it is my understanding that if you change the Retention Period for
 a Retention Level under Master Server Host Properties, that will change the
 period for all existing images, regardless of the policy, backed up under
 that level.

 FYI,
 Linda

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 Hi,

 No, NetBackup does not propagate changes in retention retrospectively.

 If you need to change retention of existing images, you need to run
 bpexpdate with the -recalculate switch for the images in question.

 On 3 Jul 2014, at 3:56 am, settler nbu-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote:

  If I change the retention attributes on an existing policy, do the
 retention attributes apply to that which was backed up prior to making the
 change?  e.g.  if I change retention attributes from 1 year, to 45 days,
 will data older than 45 days that has been backed up prior to making the
 policy change expire out naturally.  Conversely, if I change the attributes
 from 45 days to 1 year, will the data that was backed up prior to the
 policy change abide to the new policy.
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup change policy attribute question

2014-07-18 Thread Lightner, Jeff
As Mikhail states changing the RL setting within a policy only changes backups 
from that point on.

Changing RL period for the RL itself changes it for all items with that RL.  
Although the RL has a period listed it is actually the RL number you see that 
is stored so changing the RL’s period changes it for all backups with that RL 
number.

Note that there are multiple retention levels available and the period can be 
changedon each so you can have multiple RLs with the same retention period.   
For example in our environment we only keep our on site backups on 
deduplication appliance so all the RLs we define for use of the original 
backups have 2 weeks.

The reason we use multiple RLs each with 2 weeks is because we then vault the 
images to tape to be sent offsite and have varying offsite retention policies 
(e.g. 3 months, 9 months, 1 year, infinity).   Vaulting allows one to map the 
original image RL to a separate duplication RL.


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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup change policy attribute question


There is no contradiction between your understanding and bpexpdate -recalculate.
The original question was about policy settings (not retention levels) and 
change in the policy will not be propagated. The change in retention levels 
will be propagated but will affect all backups of all policies which are using 
the affected retention level.

So if expiration date need to be changed for a subset of images covered by one 
policy the right way to do it is using the bpexpdate -recalculate command with 
-policy switch.

WBR, Mikhail
On 18/07/2014 9:48 PM, Linda Boughner 
linda.bough...@durham.camailto:linda.bough...@durham.ca wrote:
No, but it is my understanding that if you change the Retention Period for a 
Retention Level under Master Server Host Properties, that will change the 
period for all existing images, regardless of the policy, backed up under that 
level.

FYI,
Linda



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Hi,

No, NetBackup does not propagate changes in retention retrospectively.

If you need to change retention of existing images, you need to run bpexpdate 
with the -recalculate switch for the images in question.

On 3 Jul 2014, at 3:56 am, settler 
nbu-fo...@backupcentral.commailto:nbu-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote:

 If I change the retention attributes on an existing policy, do the retention 
 attributes apply to that which was backed up prior to making the change?  
 e.g.  if I change retention attributes from 1 year, to 45 days, will data 
 older than 45 days that has been backed up prior to making the policy change 
 expire out naturally.  Conversely, if I change the attributes from 45 days to 
 1 year, will the data that was backed up prior to the policy change abide to 
 the new policy.

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[Veritas-bu] Netbackup change policy attribute question

2014-07-17 Thread settler
If I change the retention attributes on an existing policy, do the retention 
attributes apply to that which was backed up prior to making the change?  e.g.  
if I change retention attributes from 1 year, to 45 days, will data older than 
45 days that has been backed up prior to making the policy change expire out 
naturally.  Conversely, if I change the attributes from 45 days to 1 year, will 
the data that was backed up prior to the policy change abide to the new policy.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup change policy attribute question

2014-07-17 Thread Mikhail Nikitin
Hi,

No, NetBackup does not propagate changes in retention retrospectively.

If you need to change retention of existing images, you need to run bpexpdate 
with the -recalculate switch for the images in question.

On 3 Jul 2014, at 3:56 am, settler nbu-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote:

 If I change the retention attributes on an existing policy, do the retention 
 attributes apply to that which was backed up prior to making the change?  
 e.g.  if I change retention attributes from 1 year, to 45 days, will data 
 older than 45 days that has been backed up prior to making the policy change 
 expire out naturally.  Conversely, if I change the attributes from 45 days to 
 1 year, will the data that was backed up prior to the policy change abide to 
 the new policy.
 
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