Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running
One more piece of information. To clean up from the no backups being scheduled issue, you may have luck by stopping Netbackup, deleting (or moving aside) the pempersist file, then relaunching. It avoids having to recreate policies. Do *NOT* do this if you have any jobs that are suspended or waiting. Only do this if all your jobs are complete. -- Darren ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running
This is actually something which happens to me quite regularly so i believe symantec need to take notice of it. My case is slightly different in that i have a number of policies for different SSO Media servers. Out of the blue one of the policies does just not schedule to run yet no change has been made to it. A manual backup works fine yet still no scheduled backup works. The only way i have been able to get around it is this :- Copy the policy to a new name Delete the old policy Copy the new name policy back to the original name Delete the new name policy. I'd like to know why this happens too as as you say its not picked up in the activity monitor. I have it on my list to check that my report script has a known list of clients and to alert if any of them are not present in the daily report. This i have not yet gotten around to doing though. Cheers Tageson, Jim wrote: We uncovered a situation recently where some client backups in scheduled policies were not running at all. These clients were in active policies with several other clients which were running just fine. We discovered a total of 4 clients in 2 policies which were just not running their backups at all. Other clients in these 2 policies were being scheduled as expected. We went for 19 days without backups running on these 4 clients. Since they never were scheduled, there were obviously no errors in Netbackup at all and we didn’t know we had a problem until someone requested a restore and we saw no backups had run. We opened a ticket with Symantec and they have escalated it to the highest level. The problem was finally resolved by a recycle of the Netbackup daemons, but no cause has been determined due to lack of log files during the time of the problem. Symantec believes the policies somehow got corrupted and they believe this is an isolated issue and probably will not occur again. However if you are not monitoring to see if all your scheduled backups are actually running, you will never know you have a problem. This is just to alert other users of this issue and to urge them to make sure that this is not a widespread problem. We are currently running Netbackup 6.0MP6 on an AIX master server. **Jim Tageson** **Netbackup Administrator** **BayCare Health System** Phone: 727-467-4586 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Confidential: This electronic message and all contents contain information from BayCare Health System which may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify the sender and destroy the original message and all copies. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running
We uncovered a situation recently where some client backups in scheduled policies were not running at all. These clients were in active policies with several other clients which were running just fine. We discovered a total of 4 clients in 2 policies which were just not running their backups at all. Other clients in these 2 policies were being scheduled as expected. We went for 19 days without backups running on these 4 clients. Since they never were scheduled, there were obviously no errors in Netbackup at all and we didn't know we had a problem until someone requested a restore and we saw no backups had run. We opened a ticket with Symantec and they have escalated it to the highest level. The problem was finally resolved by a recycle of the Netbackup daemons, but no cause has been determined due to lack of log files during the time of the problem. Symantec believes the policies somehow got corrupted and they believe this is an isolated issue and probably will not occur again. However if you are not monitoring to see if all your scheduled backups are actually running, you will never know you have a problem. This is just to alert other users of this issue and to urge them to make sure that this is not a widespread problem. We are currently running Netbackup 6.0MP6 on an AIX master server. Jim Tageson Netbackup Administrator BayCare Health System Phone: 727-467-4586 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confidential: This electronic message and all contents contain information from BayCare Health System which may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify the sender and destroy the original message and all copies. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running
Maybe it's not an isolated problem after all. In my case it was not an entire policy with the problem, it was certain clients within policies that were not running. Other clients in those policies were running OK. I too was able to initially get them to run again by copying them to other policies. Jim Tageson Netbackup Administrator BayCare Health System Phone: 727-467-4586 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:11 AM To: Tageson, Jim Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running This is actually something which happens to me quite regularly so i believe symantec need to take notice of it. My case is slightly different in that i have a number of policies for different SSO Media servers. Out of the blue one of the policies does just not schedule to run yet no change has been made to it. A manual backup works fine yet still no scheduled backup works. The only way i have been able to get around it is this :- Copy the policy to a new name Delete the old policy Copy the new name policy back to the original name Delete the new name policy. I'd like to know why this happens too as as you say its not picked up in the activity monitor. I have it on my list to check that my report script has a known list of clients and to alert if any of them are not present in the daily report. This i have not yet gotten around to doing though. Cheers Tageson, Jim wrote: We uncovered a situation recently where some client backups in scheduled policies were not running at all. These clients were in active policies with several other clients which were running just fine. We discovered a total of 4 clients in 2 policies which were just not running their backups at all. Other clients in these 2 policies were being scheduled as expected. We went for 19 days without backups running on these 4 clients. Since they never were scheduled, there were obviously no errors in Netbackup at all and we didn't know we had a problem until someone requested a restore and we saw no backups had run. We opened a ticket with Symantec and they have escalated it to the highest level. The problem was finally resolved by a recycle of the Netbackup daemons, but no cause has been determined due to lack of log files during the time of the problem. Symantec believes the policies somehow got corrupted and they believe this is an isolated issue and probably will not occur again. However if you are not monitoring to see if all your scheduled backups are actually running, you will never know you have a problem. This is just to alert other users of this issue and to urge them to make sure that this is not a widespread problem. We are currently running Netbackup 6.0MP6 on an AIX master server. **Jim Tageson** **Netbackup Administrator** **BayCare Health System** Phone: 727-467-4586 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Confidential: This electronic message and all contents contain information from BayCare Health System which may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify the sender and destroy the original message and all copies. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Confidential: This electronic message and all contents contain information from BayCare Health System which may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify the sender and destroy the original message and all copies. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running
I have had this problem at more than one site and with more than one version of NetBackup, which is why I wrote a Perl script to check every morning to make sure everything ran. The script is NOT perfect and would need customization for each site, but if anyone is interested let me know. Regards, Patrick Whelan Maybe it's not an isolated problem after all. In my case it was not an entire policy with the problem, it was certain clients within policies that were not running. Other clients in those policies were running OK. I too was able to initially get them to run again by copying them to other policies. Jim Tageson Netbackup Administrator BayCare Health System Phone: 727-467-4586 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:11 AM To: Tageson, Jim Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running This is actually something which happens to me quite regularly so i believe symantec need to take notice of it. My case is slightly different in that i have a number of policies for different SSO Media servers. Out of the blue one of the policies does just not schedule to run yet no change has been made to it. A manual backup works fine yet still no scheduled backup works. The only way i have been able to get around it is this :- Copy the policy to a new name Delete the old policy Copy the new name policy back to the original name Delete the new name policy. I'd like to know why this happens too as as you say its not picked up in the activity monitor. I have it on my list to check that my report script has a known list of clients and to alert if any of them are not present in the daily report. This i have not yet gotten around to doing though. Cheers Tageson, Jim wrote: We uncovered a situation recently where some client backups in scheduled policies were not running at all. These clients were in active policies with several other clients which were running just fine. We discovered a total of 4 clients in 2 policies which were just not running their backups at all. Other clients in these 2 policies were being scheduled as expected. We went for 19 days without backups running on these 4 clients. Since they never were scheduled, there were obviously no errors in Netbackup at all and we didn't know we had a problem until someone requested a restore and we saw no backups had run. We opened a ticket with Symantec and they have escalated it to the highest level. The problem was finally resolved by a recycle of the Netbackup daemons, but no cause has been determined due to lack of log files during the time of the problem. Symantec believes the policies somehow got corrupted and they believe this is an isolated issue and probably will not occur again. However if you are not monitoring to see if all your scheduled backups are actually running, you will never know you have a problem. This is just to alert other users of this issue and to urge them to make sure that this is not a widespread problem. We are currently running Netbackup 6.0MP6 on an AIX master server. **Jim Tageson** **Netbackup Administrator** **BayCare Health System** Phone: 727-467-4586 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Confidential: This electronic message and all contents contain information from BayCare Health System which may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify the sender and destroy the original message and all copies. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Confidential: This electronic message and all contents contain information from BayCare Health System which may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify the sender and destroy the original message and all copies. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running
we also occassionally see the problem here (6.0mp4 linux). certain clients won't run but others in the same policy will. we have been running a cron script every morning on our master servers (since going to 6.0 2.5 years ago when there were scheduler issues) that checks all policies/schedules/clients and compares them with what actually ran (via bpdbjobs) and emails us an alert if any did not run. we then run them manually with no problem. once a client gets into a stuck state, it doesn't run until daemons are restarted. one time that didn't fix the problem either so i had to remove the pempersist file and that cleared the problem. we haven't had the issue for a couple of months so i haven't had to troubleshoot it further. finding a backup hasn't been running when asked for a restore is not acceptable. thanks, jerald -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tageson, Jim Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running Maybe it's not an isolated problem after all. In my case it was not an entire policy with the problem, it was certain clients within policies that were not running. Other clients in those policies were running OK. I too was able to initially get them to run again by copying them to other policies. Jim Tageson Netbackup Administrator BayCare Health System Phone: 727-467-4586 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:11 AM To: Tageson, Jim Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running This is actually something which happens to me quite regularly so i believe symantec need to take notice of it. My case is slightly different in that i have a number of policies for different SSO Media servers. Out of the blue one of the policies does just not schedule to run yet no change has been made to it. A manual backup works fine yet still no scheduled backup works. The only way i have been able to get around it is this :- Copy the policy to a new name Delete the old policy Copy the new name policy back to the original name Delete the new name policy. I'd like to know why this happens too as as you say its not picked up in the activity monitor. I have it on my list to check that my report script has a known list of clients and to alert if any of them are not present in the daily report. This i have not yet gotten around to doing though. Cheers Tageson, Jim wrote: We uncovered a situation recently where some client backups in scheduled policies were not running at all. These clients were in active policies with several other clients which were running just fine. We discovered a total of 4 clients in 2 policies which were just not running their backups at all. Other clients in these 2 policies were being scheduled as expected. We went for 19 days without backups running on these 4 clients. Since they never were scheduled, there were obviously no errors in Netbackup at all and we didn't know we had a problem until someone requested a restore and we saw no backups had run. We opened a ticket with Symantec and they have escalated it to the highest level. The problem was finally resolved by a recycle of the Netbackup daemons, but no cause has been determined due to lack of log files during the time of the problem. Symantec believes the policies somehow got corrupted and they believe this is an isolated issue and probably will not occur again. However if you are not monitoring to see if all your scheduled backups are actually running, you will never know you have a problem. This is just to alert other users of this issue and to urge them to make sure that this is not a widespread problem. We are currently running Netbackup 6.0MP6 on an AIX master server. **Jim Tageson** **Netbackup Administrator** **BayCare Health System** Phone: 727-467-4586 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message, and any attachments, may contain confidential and/or privileged material. It is intended solely for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running
There is a problem with the Netbackup scheduler all the way up through 6.5.2, as has been our experience here. Thank You, Dennis Peacock EBCA Acxiom Corporation 501-342-6232 (office) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iverson, Jerald Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:23 AM To: Tageson, Jim; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running we also occassionally see the problem here (6.0mp4 linux). certain clients won't run but others in the same policy will. we have been running a cron script every morning on our master servers (since going to 6.0 2.5 years ago when there were scheduler issues) that checks all policies/schedules/clients and compares them with what actually ran (via bpdbjobs) and emails us an alert if any did not run. we then run them manually with no problem. once a client gets into a stuck state, it doesn't run until daemons are restarted. one time that didn't fix the problem either so i had to remove the pempersist file and that cleared the problem. we haven't had the issue for a couple of months so i haven't had to troubleshoot it further. finding a backup hasn't been running when asked for a restore is not acceptable. thanks, jerald -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tageson, Jim Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running Maybe it's not an isolated problem after all. In my case it was not an entire policy with the problem, it was certain clients within policies that were not running. Other clients in those policies were running OK. I too was able to initially get them to run again by copying them to other policies. Jim Tageson Netbackup Administrator BayCare Health System Phone: 727-467-4586 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:11 AM To: Tageson, Jim Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running This is actually something which happens to me quite regularly so i believe symantec need to take notice of it. My case is slightly different in that i have a number of policies for different SSO Media servers. Out of the blue one of the policies does just not schedule to run yet no change has been made to it. A manual backup works fine yet still no scheduled backup works. The only way i have been able to get around it is this :- Copy the policy to a new name Delete the old policy Copy the new name policy back to the original name Delete the new name policy. I'd like to know why this happens too as as you say its not picked up in the activity monitor. I have it on my list to check that my report script has a known list of clients and to alert if any of them are not present in the daily report. This i have not yet gotten around to doing though. Cheers Tageson, Jim wrote: We uncovered a situation recently where some client backups in scheduled policies were not running at all. These clients were in active policies with several other clients which were running just fine. We discovered a total of 4 clients in 2 policies which were just not running their backups at all. Other clients in these 2 policies were being scheduled as expected. We went for 19 days without backups running on these 4 clients. Since they never were scheduled, there were obviously no errors in Netbackup at all and we didn't know we had a problem until someone requested a restore and we saw no backups had run. We opened a ticket with Symantec and they have escalated it to the highest level. The problem was finally resolved by a recycle of the Netbackup daemons, but no cause has been determined due to lack of log files during the time of the problem. Symantec believes the policies somehow got corrupted and they believe this is an isolated issue and probably will not occur again. However if you are not monitoring to see if all your scheduled backups are actually running, you will never know you have a problem. This is just to alert other users of this issue and to urge them to make sure that this is not a widespread problem. We are currently running Netbackup 6.0MP6 on an AIX master server. **Jim Tageson** **Netbackup Administrator** **BayCare Health System** Phone: 727-467-4586 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message, and any attachments, may contain confidential and/or privileged material. It is intended solely for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons
Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running
I had the same problem when I did my upgrade from 6.5 to 6.5.2a. I had two policies that had issues. 1 policy only had 1 server in it. I just copied the policy to a new name and it started working. The second policy had about 75 servers in it and only 2 did not run. Again I copied it to a new name and they worked. This only started right after I did the upgrade. Once I gave it a kick in the pants it has worked ok. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tageson, Jim Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:19 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running We uncovered a situation recently where some client backups in scheduled policies were not running at all. These clients were in active policies with several other clients which were running just fine. We discovered a total of 4 clients in 2 policies which were just not running their backups at all. Other clients in these 2 policies were being scheduled as expected. We went for 19 days without backups running on these 4 clients. Since they never were scheduled, there were obviously no errors in Netbackup at all and we didn't know we had a problem until someone requested a restore and we saw no backups had run. We opened a ticket with Symantec and they have escalated it to the highest level. The problem was finally resolved by a recycle of the Netbackup daemons, but no cause has been determined due to lack of log files during the time of the problem. Symantec believes the policies somehow got corrupted and they believe this is an isolated issue and probably will not occur again. However if you are not monitoring to see if all your scheduled backups are actually running, you will never know you have a problem. This is just to alert other users of this issue and to urge them to make sure that this is not a widespread problem. We are currently running Netbackup 6.0MP6 on an AIX master server. Jim Tageson Netbackup Administrator BayCare Health System Phone: 727-467-4586 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confidential: This electronic message and all contents contain information from BayCare Health System which may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify the sender and destroy the original message and all copies. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running (Thanks)
I have received numerous e-mails from several of you indicating you have the same or similar problems. I have passed this information on to Symantec to show them that this is not an isolated problem. Thanks so much for all your responses. Hopefully we can get this resolved. Jim Tageson Netbackup Administrator BayCare Health System Phone: 727-467-4586 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Tageson, Jim Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:19 AM To: 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu' Subject: Alert! Backups may not be running We uncovered a situation recently where some client backups in scheduled policies were not running at all. These clients were in active policies with several other clients which were running just fine. We discovered a total of 4 clients in 2 policies which were just not running their backups at all. Other clients in these 2 policies were being scheduled as expected. We went for 19 days without backups running on these 4 clients. Since they never were scheduled, there were obviously no errors in Netbackup at all and we didn't know we had a problem until someone requested a restore and we saw no backups had run. We opened a ticket with Symantec and they have escalated it to the highest level. The problem was finally resolved by a recycle of the Netbackup daemons, but no cause has been determined due to lack of log files during the time of the problem. Symantec believes the policies somehow got corrupted and they believe this is an isolated issue and probably will not occur again. However if you are not monitoring to see if all your scheduled backups are actually running, you will never know you have a problem. This is just to alert other users of this issue and to urge them to make sure that this is not a widespread problem. We are currently running Netbackup 6.0MP6 on an AIX master server. Jim Tageson Netbackup Administrator BayCare Health System Phone: 727-467-4586 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confidential: This electronic message and all contents contain information from BayCare Health System which may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify the sender and destroy the original message and all copies. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running
Yes, there is an issue with the schedule since 6.0 GA. Symantec support has told us that there is a bug that about every 200 or so days for policies. The affected policy/policies might stop running. They are looking into it, but there is no patch or fix for this issue at the moment. the only thing you can do is once the policy has been afflicted by this FEATURE is to delete and recreate the policy. Copying the policy will not work. It is less likely if at all to happen to policies that use frequency based shcedules instead of being Calendar based. Hope this helps shed some light on this. +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Tageson, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: We uncovered a situation recently where some client backups in scheduled policies were not running at all. These clients were in active policies with several other clients which were running just fine. We discovered a total of 4 clients in 2 policies which were just not running their backups at all. Other clients in these 2 policies were being scheduled as expected. We went for 19 days without backups running on these 4 clients. Since they never were scheduled, there were obviously no errors in Netbackup at all and we didn't know we had a problem until someone requested a restore and we saw no backups had run. This is not a new problem and one that pops up regularly. It's absolutely, positively the most severe issue that NetBackup can have since data is silently ignored with no warning to the backup admins. We've seen it over the years with 6.0MP2 being the worst example. We regularly watch not only for failures but also have cronjobs out there that check to see if any backups have run for specific clients. For example, if no database archive logs get backed up, and email is sent out to the DBAs and backup admins. We occasionally view the Aptare StorageConsole volume graphs to see if the patterns make sense - this was our original trigger into the 6.0 issues. You can never be too careful with your backups... .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running
This sounds very similar with what we went through. many of our daily schedules were configured for 1 day, and for some reason if a backup started and completed very close to the end of the backup window, it would wait for around the same time the next night. Depending on how busy the environment was, this job would then either fail because the backup window closed, or not start at all. I forget where i read this but the suggestion was to change the frequency to something like every 20 hours, where it was actually tried and start the jobs earlier. This has seemed to help in our environment. +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running
Thanks Jim for bringing this to our attention - I for one, was not aware of this issue, but I'm certainly concerned about it now. A few people have mentioned running scripts to check that all jobs have run - as still a NetBackup newbie, I for one would be extremely grateful if anybody was prepared to share their scripts with us - or even just some hints on how to go about it. My environment is NetBackup 6.0MP4 on Redhat Enterprise Linux 4 (Update 7). +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running
Along with many others here I have been whinning about it to Symantec since 6.0MP2 and it still hasn't been fixed. If I ever restart netbackup I normally delete pempersist so that I know it's clean. I have also moved most policies to calendar based schedule as opposed to frequency based. my 2 cents. Dominik Crowey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/11/2008 08:49 AM Please respond to VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Alert! Backups may not be running Thanks Jim for bringing this to our attention - I for one, was not aware of this issue, but I'm certainly concerned about it now. A few people have mentioned running scripts to check that all jobs have run - as still a NetBackup newbie, I for one would be extremely grateful if anybody was prepared to share their scripts with us - or even just some hints on how to go about it. My environment is NetBackup 6.0MP4 on Redhat Enterprise Linux 4 (Update 7). +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This e-mail is sent by or on behalf of the named sender identified above. If: (a) you do not wish to receive any e-mail marketing material from this person in the future, please forward the contents of this email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the subject box. (b) you wish to unsubscribe from all central e-mail marketing lists used by our business, please forward the contents of this e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message unsubscribe from all central e-mail marketing lists in the subject box. If you do not forward the contents of this e-mail with your unsubscription then it may not be able to be implemented. The information contained in this e-mail communication may be confidential. You should only read, disclose, re-transmit, copy, distribute, act in reliance on or commercialise the information if you are authorised to do so. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail communication, please immediately notify us by e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], or reply by e-mail direct to the sender and then destroy any electronic and paper copy of this message. Any views expressed in this e-mail communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of a member of the National Australia Bank Group of companies. Any advice contained in this e-mail has been prepared without taking into account your objectives, financial situation or needs. Before acting on any advice in this e-mail, National Australia Bank Limited recommends that you consider whether it is appropriate for your circumstances. If this e-mail contains reference to any financial products, the National recommends you consider the Product Disclosure Statement (PDS) or other disclosure document before making any decisions regarding any products. The National Australia Bank Group of companies does not represent, warrant or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus or interference. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
