Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-10-13 Thread Boris Kraizman
The data that would go to the tapes won't be de-dup, then no reduction in
there at all, but a disk pool would work perfectly.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Justin Piszcz wrote:

> Hi Rockey,
>
> Simon was asking about this-- de-dupe is nice; however, it does require
> disk and I am not sure Simon has large disk storage pools..
>
> Justin.
>
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Rockey Reed wrote:
>
> > Justin
> >
> > If your data is fairly static you may find the built in deduplication of
> NBU to be a benefit. Contact your Symantec system engineer for more
> information. The time spent on this could save you money and administrative
> burdens.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rockey
> > Please excuse short reply and spelling or grammar errors.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu <
> veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
> > To: Justin Piszcz 
> > Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu  >
> > Sent: Tue Oct 05 06:15:22 2010
> > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500
> ?[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
> >
> > Justin
> > I have one, and it seems to be at capacity.
> > This week is the first time tapes have HAD to be ejected to make way for
> > new tapes to be loaded!
> >
> > Not a good situation to be in. Its 6 drives, with 143 slots!
> >
> > I have tried to check we are MPX enough and putting as much Data to a
> > single tape as possible, but we are limited in costs.
> > If you read the Tech Specs at Management level, they talk about 143 x
> > LTO4 = 114 TB's uncompressed I would guess.
> >
> > Well I ran a NBU report for client Backup over a period of one week and
> > it shows over 44,348GB's for just that week.
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:45 PM
> > To: WEAVER, Simon (external)
> > Cc: Wilkinson, Alex; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> > Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
> > [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
> >
> > Erm,
> >
> > More problems on SL500s than the L700 robots.
> > I'd be curious to hear the experiences from others.
> >
> > Justin.
> >
> > On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Justin Piszcz wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> They are alright for small, rack-mounted robots, non-redundant though,
> >
> >> so if you plan on using them, make sure you get two if your backups
> >> are mission-critical.  Seems to have more problems with older L700
> > robots.
> >> Have experience with expansion modules as well, no issues there.
> >>
> >> The SL500 must be mounted perfectly level, if its off by as much as
> >> 1mm there will/can be mount errors or it can cause the hand to lockup
> > or get stuck.
> >>
> >> Justin.
> >>
> >> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ok so what do you think of it ?
> >>> I am looking to expand ours with either Drive Modules or Cartridge
> >>> Modules.
> >>>
> >>> Simon
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> >>> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
> >>> Justin Piszcz
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:27 PM
> >>> To: Wilkinson, Alex
> >>> Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> >>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
> >>> [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Post your questions :)
> >>>
> >>> Justin.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>0n Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 09:15:30AM +0100, WEAVER, Simon
> >>>> (external)
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  >As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!
> >>>>
> >>>> Yup. Shoot!
> >>>>
> >>>>  -Alex
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?

2010-10-11 Thread Boris Kraizman
Hello Folks,

I have 3 x SL500, and all 3 years old now, I did not see many issues, we had
power supplies and the robot replaced, but works fine, no any issues with
licensing though. I am planing to add LTO4 drives in mix in the lib where I
have two expansions. We used to get support from Sun STK, now we contacted a
third party to support, also I did not see any issues. I also still have
SL180, works fine as well, and it has much faster robot then on the SL500.

Boris

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Justin Piszcz wrote:

> Abhishek,
>
> How often are backups performed to it?
> How many times do you have gripper errors or have to call Oracle out to
> fix an issue?
>
> I'm curious.
>
> Justin.
>
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Abhishek Dhingra1 wrote:
>
> > I have SL500 on AIX.
> >
> > Rgds
> > A D
> > Email : abhishek.dhin...@in.ibm.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "WEAVER, Simon \(external\)" 
> > Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> > 10/05/2010 01:45 PM
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> > Subject
> > [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!
> > Thanks
> > Simon
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?

2010-10-05 Thread Justin Piszcz
Abhishek,

How often are backups performed to it?
How many times do you have gripper errors or have to call Oracle out to 
fix an issue?

I'm curious.

Justin.

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Abhishek Dhingra1 wrote:

> I have SL500 on AIX.
>
> Rgds
> A D
> Email : abhishek.dhin...@in.ibm.com
>
>
>
>
> "WEAVER, Simon \(external\)" 
> Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> 10/05/2010 01:45 PM
>
> To
> 
> cc
>
> Subject
> [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!
> Thanks
> Simon
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-10-05 Thread Justin Piszcz
Hi Rockey,

Simon was asking about this-- de-dupe is nice; however, it does require 
disk and I am not sure Simon has large disk storage pools..

Justin.

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Rockey Reed wrote:

> Justin
>
> If your data is fairly static you may find the built in deduplication of NBU 
> to be a benefit. Contact your Symantec system engineer for more information. 
> The time spent on this could save you money and administrative burdens.
>
> Thanks,
> Rockey
> Please excuse short reply and spelling or grammar errors.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
> 
> To: Justin Piszcz 
> Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
> Sent: Tue Oct 05 06:15:22 2010
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 
> ?[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
> Justin
> I have one, and it seems to be at capacity.
> This week is the first time tapes have HAD to be ejected to make way for
> new tapes to be loaded!
>
> Not a good situation to be in. Its 6 drives, with 143 slots!
>
> I have tried to check we are MPX enough and putting as much Data to a
> single tape as possible, but we are limited in costs.
> If you read the Tech Specs at Management level, they talk about 143 x
> LTO4 = 114 TB's uncompressed I would guess.
>
> Well I ran a NBU report for client Backup over a period of one week and
> it shows over 44,348GB's for just that week.
>
> Simon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:45 PM
> To: WEAVER, Simon (external)
> Cc: Wilkinson, Alex; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
> [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
> Erm,
>
> More problems on SL500s than the L700 robots.
> I'd be curious to hear the experiences from others.
>
> Justin.
>
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Justin Piszcz wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> They are alright for small, rack-mounted robots, non-redundant though,
>
>> so if you plan on using them, make sure you get two if your backups
>> are mission-critical.  Seems to have more problems with older L700
> robots.
>> Have experience with expansion modules as well, no issues there.
>>
>> The SL500 must be mounted perfectly level, if its off by as much as
>> 1mm there will/can be mount errors or it can cause the hand to lockup
> or get stuck.
>>
>> Justin.
>>
>> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote:
>>
>>> Ok so what do you think of it ?
>>> I am looking to expand ours with either Drive Modules or Cartridge
>>> Modules.
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>>> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
>>> Justin Piszcz
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:27 PM
>>> To: Wilkinson, Alex
>>> Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
>>> [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Post your questions :)
>>>
>>> Justin.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>0n Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 09:15:30AM +0100, WEAVER, Simon
>>>> (external)
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  >As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!
>>>>
>>>> Yup. Shoot!
>>>>
>>>>  -Alex
>>>>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?

2010-10-05 Thread Abhishek Dhingra1
I have SL500 on AIX.

Rgds
A D
Email : abhishek.dhin...@in.ibm.com




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As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask! 
Thanks 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-10-05 Thread Rockey Reed
Justin

If your data is fairly static you may find the built in deduplication of NBU to 
be a benefit. Contact your Symantec system engineer for more information. The 
time spent on this could save you money and administrative burdens. 

Thanks,
Rockey
Please excuse short reply and spelling or grammar errors.

- Original Message -
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 

To: Justin Piszcz 
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
Sent: Tue Oct 05 06:15:22 2010
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 
?[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Justin
I have one, and it seems to be at capacity.
This week is the first time tapes have HAD to be ejected to make way for
new tapes to be loaded!

Not a good situation to be in. Its 6 drives, with 143 slots!

I have tried to check we are MPX enough and putting as much Data to a
single tape as possible, but we are limited in costs. 
If you read the Tech Specs at Management level, they talk about 143 x
LTO4 = 114 TB's uncompressed I would guess.

Well I ran a NBU report for client Backup over a period of one week and
it shows over 44,348GB's for just that week. 

Simon

-Original Message-
From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:45 PM
To: WEAVER, Simon (external)
Cc: Wilkinson, Alex; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Erm,

More problems on SL500s than the L700 robots.
I'd be curious to hear the experiences from others.

Justin.

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Justin Piszcz wrote:

> Hi,
>
> They are alright for small, rack-mounted robots, non-redundant though,

> so if you plan on using them, make sure you get two if your backups 
> are mission-critical.  Seems to have more problems with older L700
robots.
> Have experience with expansion modules as well, no issues there.
>
> The SL500 must be mounted perfectly level, if its off by as much as 
> 1mm there will/can be mount errors or it can cause the hand to lockup
or get stuck.
>
> Justin.
>
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote:
>
>> Ok so what do you think of it ?
>> I am looking to expand ours with either Drive Modules or Cartridge 
>> Modules.
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of 
>> Justin Piszcz
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:27 PM
>> To: Wilkinson, Alex
>> Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
>> [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Post your questions :)
>> 
>> Justin.
>> 
>> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>>0n Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 09:15:30AM +0100, WEAVER, Simon 
>>> (external)
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   >As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!
>>> 
>>> Yup. Shoot!
>>>
>>>  -Alex
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?

2010-10-05 Thread Justin Piszcz
The engineer cannot workout the module not being licensed because you need 
to get the SILKS(sp?) key from your Oracle rep so that the engineer can 
enter it into the library for newer firmare versions.

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote:

> I have had a fair share. We have had 3 callouts in less than a year! 2
> Robots replaced and a Module not licensed (which the Sun engineer could
> not work out).
>
> Never mind..!
>
> 
>
> From: Nate Sanders [mailto:sande...@dmotorworks.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 3:52 PM
> To: Clausen, Matt R
> Cc: Sanders, Nate; WEAVER, Simon (external);
> VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
>
>
> Ours has been serviced only by Sun over the years. Every time a
> configuration change is made within the library it was done by Sun. I
> don't know why but ours has been nothing but a nightmare.
>
> On 10/05/2010 09:15 AM, Clausen, Matt R wrote:
>
>   That's interesting, because I have the complete opposite
> experience.
>
>
>
>   My SL500's performance has been flawless. No problems with it at
> all (as opposed to the Sun StorEdge C4s they replaced). It has the exact
> same configuration as yours (1 Base Module, 1 DEM, 3 CEMs) though mine
> was installed by Sun Microsystems and not by anyone on my team.
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>   From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
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> ?
>
>
>
>   We have an SL500 with full expansion and 6 fiber drives. We've
> had more problems with it than I could tell you. In a 2 year period we
> had to swap the robot 3 times. At this point nothing but the rack is
> original. All the shelves have been replaced as well. I'm looking very
> forward to when we replace it. I'll be throwing a party.
>
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>   As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!
>
>   Thanks
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-10-05 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Yeah I guess I could Justin, but if they could fork out the cost for the
LTO4 drives and DEM, it would give us some growth!

S. 

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From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 2:44 PM
To: WEAVER, Simon (external)
Cc: Wilkinson, Alex; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Hi,

If you cannot upgrade you need to cut retention or what you backup or
continue to swap tapes until you can expand the robot.

LTO-5 is out there which would make it easier except it costs up to 2-5x
than what LTO-4 media costs.

An expansion module upgrade would seem to be your best bet.  If you only
need capacity and not drives, you could get the cartridge expansion
module only..

Justin.

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote:

> Justin
> I have one, and it seems to be at capacity.
> This week is the first time tapes have HAD to be ejected to make way 
> for new tapes to be loaded!
>
> Not a good situation to be in. Its 6 drives, with 143 slots!
>
> I have tried to check we are MPX enough and putting as much Data to a 
> single tape as possible, but we are limited in costs.
> If you read the Tech Specs at Management level, they talk about 143 x
> LTO4 = 114 TB's uncompressed I would guess.
>
> Well I ran a NBU report for client Backup over a period of one week 
> and it shows over 44,348GB's for just that week.
>
> Simon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:45 PM
> To: WEAVER, Simon (external)
> Cc: Wilkinson, Alex; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
> [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
> Erm,
>
> More problems on SL500s than the L700 robots.
> I'd be curious to hear the experiences from others.
>
> Justin.
>
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Justin Piszcz wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> They are alright for small, rack-mounted robots, non-redundant 
>> though,
>
>> so if you plan on using them, make sure you get two if your backups 
>> are mission-critical.  Seems to have more problems with older L700
> robots.
>> Have experience with expansion modules as well, no issues there.
>>
>> The SL500 must be mounted perfectly level, if its off by as much as 
>> 1mm there will/can be mount errors or it can cause the hand to lockup
> or get stuck.
>>
>> Justin.
>>
>> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote:
>>
>>> Ok so what do you think of it ?
>>> I am looking to expand ours with either Drive Modules or Cartridge 
>>> Modules.
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>>> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of 
>>> Justin Piszcz
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:27 PM
>>> To: Wilkinson, Alex
>>> Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
>>> [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Post your questions :)
>>>
>>> Justin.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>0n Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 09:15:30AM +0100, WEAVER, Simon
>>>> (external)
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  >As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!
>>>>
>>>> Yup. Shoot!
>>>>
>>>>  -Alex
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?

2010-10-05 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
I have had a fair share. We have had 3 callouts in less than a year! 2
Robots replaced and a Module not licensed (which the Sun engineer could
not work out).
 
Never mind..!



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?


Ours has been serviced only by Sun over the years. Every time a
configuration change is made within the library it was done by Sun. I
don't know why but ours has been nothing but a nightmare. 

On 10/05/2010 09:15 AM, Clausen, Matt R wrote: 

That's interesting, because I have the complete opposite
experience. 



My SL500's performance has been flawless. No problems with it at
all (as opposed to the Sun StorEdge C4s they replaced). It has the exact
same configuration as yours (1 Base Module, 1 DEM, 3 CEMs) though mine
was installed by Sun Microsystems and not by anyone on my team.







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We have an SL500 with full expansion and 6 fiber drives. We've
had more problems with it than I could tell you. In a 2 year period we
had to swap the robot 3 times. At this point nothing but the rack is
original. All the shelves have been replaced as well. I'm looking very
forward to when we replace it. I'll be throwing a party.


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As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask! 

Thanks 
Simon 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?

2010-10-05 Thread Nate Sanders
Ours has been serviced only by Sun over the years. Every time a
configuration change is made within the library it was done by Sun. I
don't know why but ours has been nothing but a nightmare.

On 10/05/2010 09:15 AM, Clausen, Matt R wrote:
>
> That’s interesting, because I have the complete opposite experience.
>
>  
>
> My SL500’s performance has been flawless. No problems with it at all
> (as opposed to the Sun StorEdge C4s they replaced). It has the exact
> same configuration as yours (1 Base Module, 1 DEM, 3 CEMs) though mine
> was installed by Sun Microsystems and not by anyone on my team.
>
>  
>
> 
>
> *From:* veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
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>
>  
>
> We have an SL500 with full expansion and 6 fiber drives. We've had
> more problems with it than I could tell you. In a 2 year period we had
> to swap the robot 3 times. At this point nothing but the rack is
> original. All the shelves have been replaced as well. I'm looking very
> forward to when we replace it. I'll be throwing a party.
>
>
> On 10/05/2010 03:15 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote:
>
> As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!
>
> Thanks
> Simon
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?

2010-10-05 Thread Nate Sanders
We have an SL500 with full expansion and 6 fiber drives. We've had more
problems with it than I could tell you. In a 2 year period we had to
swap the robot 3 times. At this point nothing but the rack is original.
All the shelves have been replaced as well. I'm looking very forward to
when we replace it. I'll be throwing a party.


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> As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!
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> Thanks
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-10-05 Thread Justin Piszcz
Hi,

If you cannot upgrade you need to cut retention or what you backup or 
continue to swap tapes until you can expand the robot.

LTO-5 is out there which would make it easier except it costs up to 2-5x 
than what LTO-4 media costs.

An expansion module upgrade would seem to be your best bet.  If you only 
need capacity and not drives, you could get the cartridge expansion module 
only..

Justin.

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote:

> Justin
> I have one, and it seems to be at capacity.
> This week is the first time tapes have HAD to be ejected to make way for
> new tapes to be loaded!
>
> Not a good situation to be in. Its 6 drives, with 143 slots!
>
> I have tried to check we are MPX enough and putting as much Data to a
> single tape as possible, but we are limited in costs.
> If you read the Tech Specs at Management level, they talk about 143 x
> LTO4 = 114 TB's uncompressed I would guess.
>
> Well I ran a NBU report for client Backup over a period of one week and
> it shows over 44,348GB's for just that week.
>
> Simon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:45 PM
> To: WEAVER, Simon (external)
> Cc: Wilkinson, Alex; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
> [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
> Erm,
>
> More problems on SL500s than the L700 robots.
> I'd be curious to hear the experiences from others.
>
> Justin.
>
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Justin Piszcz wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> They are alright for small, rack-mounted robots, non-redundant though,
>
>> so if you plan on using them, make sure you get two if your backups
>> are mission-critical.  Seems to have more problems with older L700
> robots.
>> Have experience with expansion modules as well, no issues there.
>>
>> The SL500 must be mounted perfectly level, if its off by as much as
>> 1mm there will/can be mount errors or it can cause the hand to lockup
> or get stuck.
>>
>> Justin.
>>
>> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote:
>>
>>> Ok so what do you think of it ?
>>> I am looking to expand ours with either Drive Modules or Cartridge
>>> Modules.
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>>> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
>>> Justin Piszcz
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:27 PM
>>> To: Wilkinson, Alex
>>> Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
>>> [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Post your questions :)
>>>
>>> Justin.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>0n Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 09:15:30AM +0100, WEAVER, Simon
>>>> (external)
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  >As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!
>>>>
>>>> Yup. Shoot!
>>>>
>>>>  -Alex
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-10-05 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Justin
I have one, and it seems to be at capacity.
This week is the first time tapes have HAD to be ejected to make way for
new tapes to be loaded!

Not a good situation to be in. Its 6 drives, with 143 slots!

I have tried to check we are MPX enough and putting as much Data to a
single tape as possible, but we are limited in costs. 
If you read the Tech Specs at Management level, they talk about 143 x
LTO4 = 114 TB's uncompressed I would guess.

Well I ran a NBU report for client Backup over a period of one week and
it shows over 44,348GB's for just that week. 

Simon

-Original Message-
From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:45 PM
To: WEAVER, Simon (external)
Cc: Wilkinson, Alex; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Erm,

More problems on SL500s than the L700 robots.
I'd be curious to hear the experiences from others.

Justin.

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Justin Piszcz wrote:

> Hi,
>
> They are alright for small, rack-mounted robots, non-redundant though,

> so if you plan on using them, make sure you get two if your backups 
> are mission-critical.  Seems to have more problems with older L700
robots.
> Have experience with expansion modules as well, no issues there.
>
> The SL500 must be mounted perfectly level, if its off by as much as 
> 1mm there will/can be mount errors or it can cause the hand to lockup
or get stuck.
>
> Justin.
>
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote:
>
>> Ok so what do you think of it ?
>> I am looking to expand ours with either Drive Modules or Cartridge 
>> Modules.
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of 
>> Justin Piszcz
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 12:27 PM
>> To: Wilkinson, Alex
>> Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
>> [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Post your questions :)
>> 
>> Justin.
>> 
>> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>>0n Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 09:15:30AM +0100, WEAVER, Simon 
>>> (external)
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   >As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!
>>> 
>>> Yup. Shoot!
>>>
>>>  -Alex
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-10-05 Thread Justin Piszcz
Hi,

That is a good question, in addition there is also a CAP option, the CAP in
the expansion module holds 10 tapes.  Currently, I am not using any SL500s
with only the Slot Expansion Module.

I am running the same configuration you are or plan to.

SL500 (base)
SL500 (expansion module, with 2 or 4 drives)

The drives lost whether its 2 or 4 appears to be the same because the slot
is reserved in the drive expansion module.

To let you know, we have a few different configurations but:

The SL500s+expansion w/tape cap for ejections holds: 133 tapes
And in the newer model SL500+expansion w/tape holds: 144 tapes

Whether there are 2 or 4 drives in the expansion module it should not matter,
I could be wrong but if you check the back of a DEM there are four spots in
the back for drives, at least that's how ours were configured.

So if you had:

SL500: 50 slots
DEM1: ~133 slots (whether 1 2 3 or 4 drives)
DEM2: ~133 slots (whether 1 2 3 or 4 drives)
Total: 316 slots

You should contact your Oracle rep to confirm but that is what I have been
seeing lately.  I just checked one here with 3 drives in the DEM vs. one
with two drives and they are all similar, either 133 or 144 slots.

Justin.

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote:

> Stupidly pressed SEND before the question was written.
>
> Q: those that have a 120 Slot Cartridge Module can only hold cartridges
> and cannot hold drives. But what I was trying to work out, is how many
> slots do you effectively LOSE when you have 4 drives installed in one
> DEM and 2 Drives in another DEM?
>
> Simon
>
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> Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
> [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
> Hi,
>
> Post your questions :)
>
> Justin.
>
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
>
>>
>>0n Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 09:15:30AM +0100, WEAVER, Simon (external)
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>> Yup. Shoot!
>>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-10-05 Thread Justin Piszcz
Erm,

More problems on SL500s than the L700 robots.
I'd be curious to hear the experiences from others.

Justin.

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Justin Piszcz wrote:

> Hi,
>
> They are alright for small, rack-mounted robots, non-redundant though, so if 
> you plan on using them, make sure you get two if your backups are 
> mission-critical.  Seems to have more problems with older L700 robots.
> Have experience with expansion modules as well, no issues there.
>
> The SL500 must be mounted perfectly level, if its off by as much as 1mm there 
> will/can be mount errors or it can cause the hand to lockup or get stuck.
>
> Justin.
>
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote:
>
>> Ok so what do you think of it ?
>> I am looking to expand ours with either Drive Modules or Cartridge
>> Modules.
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Justin
>> Piszcz
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>> [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Post your questions :)
>> 
>> Justin.
>> 
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>> 
>>>
>>>0n Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 09:15:30AM +0100, WEAVER, Simon (external)
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   >As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!
>>> 
>>> Yup. Shoot!
>>>
>>>  -Alex
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-10-05 Thread Justin Piszcz
Hi,

They are alright for small, rack-mounted robots, non-redundant though, so 
if you plan on using them, make sure you get two if your backups are 
mission-critical.  Seems to have more problems with older L700 robots.
Have experience with expansion modules as well, no issues there.

The SL500 must be mounted perfectly level, if its off by as much as 1mm 
there will/can be mount errors or it can cause the hand to lockup or get 
stuck.

Justin.

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote:

> Ok so what do you think of it ?
> I am looking to expand ours with either Drive Modules or Cartridge
> Modules.
>
> Simon
>
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> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ?
> [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
> Hi,
>
> Post your questions :)
>
> Justin.
>
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
>
>>
>>0n Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 09:15:30AM +0100, WEAVER, Simon (external)
> wrote:
>>
>>   >As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!
>>
>> Yup. Shoot!
>>
>>  -Alex
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-10-05 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Stupidly pressed SEND before the question was written.

Q: those that have a 120 Slot Cartridge Module can only hold cartridges
and cannot hold drives. But what I was trying to work out, is how many
slots do you effectively LOSE when you have 4 drives installed in one
DEM and 2 Drives in another DEM?

Simon 

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[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Hi,

Post your questions :)

Justin.

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:

>
>0n Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 09:15:30AM +0100, WEAVER, Simon (external)
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>>As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!
>
> Yup. Shoot!
>
>  -Alex
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-10-05 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Ok so what do you think of it ?
I am looking to expand ours with either Drive Modules or Cartridge
Modules.

Simon 

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[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Hi,

Post your questions :)

Justin.

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:

>
>0n Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 09:15:30AM +0100, WEAVER, Simon (external)
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>>As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!
>
> Yup. Shoot!
>
>  -Alex
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-10-05 Thread Justin Piszcz
Hi,

Post your questions :)

Justin.

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:

>
>0n Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 09:15:30AM +0100, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote:
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>>As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!
>
> Yup. Shoot!
>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone on here own a StorageTek SL500 ? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-10-05 Thread Wilkinson, Alex

0n Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 09:15:30AM +0100, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote: 

>As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!

Yup. Shoot!

  -Alex

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2010-10-05 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
As per question. Got some questions on expansion to ask!

Thanks
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