Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare gotchas?
Tom Our initial installation and proof of concept was on Vmware. It worked well but we wanted a beefier solution moving into production. We are running Linux on an HP DL580_G3 with 8 CPUs and 8GB of memory. Monte From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tschida, Tom (STP) Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:53 PM To: Tschida, Tom (STP); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare gotchas? Thanks to all that replied. Once again this mail list has proved extremely beneficial. I do have a follow-up question though. Is anyone using a VMware server for the Aptare installation? Tom From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tschida, Tom (STP) Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:06 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Aptare gotchas? Hello all, we're looking at purchasing Aptare for our NetBackup and BackupExec (yes, they will be supporting BE this starting this month) environments. It's it promoted for the most part as easy plug-n-play. Does anyone have any lessons learned regarding the implementation of this tool? Any info is appreciated. Thanks, Tom Tschida Boston Scientific ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare gotchas?
On 11/16/2006 2:53 PM, Tschida, Tom (STP) wrote: > I do have a follow-up question though. Is anyone using a VMware server > for the Aptare installation? Hi Tom, It's important to realize that this is an Oracle-based application. You don't buy the Oracle license (it's bundled into the product), but it's still there. It's going to use a bunch of memory (2-4GB) and it can occasionally use a lot of CPU depending on the queries that the clients send. Aptare loves Java and although they try to make it efficient, Java still sucks. I have seen the box pegged on more than one occasion. There's no reason why you can't make it work in a virtual machine, but it's not the type of application that I would personally put on one. We have it running on a standalone DL360 with 2 CPUs and 3GB (I think) of memory. We have on the order of 300 NBU clients. StorageConsole has the option to collect file information for individual clients. That throws a different wrinkle into the mix on how big of a box you run it on. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare gotchas?
Thanks to all that replied. Once again this mail list has proved extremely beneficial. I do have a follow-up question though. Is anyone using a VMware server for the Aptare installation? Tom From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tschida, Tom (STP) Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:06 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Aptare gotchas? Hello all, we're looking at purchasing Aptare for our NetBackup and BackupExec (yes, they will be supporting BE this starting this month) environments. It's it promoted for the most part as easy plug-n-play. Does anyone have any lessons learned regarding the implementation of this tool? Any info is appreciated. Thanks, Tom Tschida Boston Scientific ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare gotchas?
Tom
The product is easy to implement and easy to do the initial configurations.
This was actually one of the biggest selling points for us. Other products we
tested were extremely difficult to roll out, tune and configure. Feel free to
contact me direct if you want any specific details.
Thanks, Monte
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I implemented Aptare in a previous position and it was a great SA tool. I
loved some of the features specifically the real time backup monitoring in a
single pane of glass for all my backup servers worldwide. One of the other
things that was great is that it would highlight jobs that were running
abnormally long in it's activity monitor. It made my job of monitoring job
status/failures significantly easier. The reporting features were really good
for capacity planning and understanding backup window utilization. I can't say
enough about how great this product is. What other third party products are
people using for backup reporting on Netbackup?
I promise I don't work for Aptare =)
Dwayne Adams
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare gotchas?
We have been using Aptare for about three years. The latest release is easy to
install and configure as long
as you have the Portal and Database on the same server. We have ours on
separate servers, and after
some work the Aptare Tech support it is working well. Their tech support is
excellent.
The tool works very well. It has extensive reporting capability, plus
immediate posting of backup status to the
database. We use it to generate reports on backup status we need for our SOX
compliance
I highly recommend this product
=
Carl Stehman
IT Distributed Services Team
Pepco Holdings, Inc.
202-331-6619
Pager 301-765-2703
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Hello all,
we're looking at purchasing Aptare for our NetBackup and BackupExec (yes, they
will be supporting BE this starting this month) environments. It's it promoted
for the most part as easy plug-n-play. Does anyone have any lessons learned
regarding the implementation of this tool? Any info is appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom Tschida
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare gotchas?
Aptare is a fantastic product!
I met the CEO at Vision a few years ago and he showed me a demo of the product.
I was sold! Especially considering that then the best thing Veritas had going
for it was Adv. Rptr. (garbage!!)
We implemented it (finally!) about 10 months ago and it's very useful. We have
the DB and Portal on separate servers, which, as I saw mentioned earlier, is
kind of tricky, but support got us thru it.
Gotchas, none. Positives, many! The best thing is that their support staff are
all developers/DBAs, so they can get you thru just about anything you might
want to do with the product.
Love it! :)
~Kate
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We have been using Aptare for about three years. The latest release is easy to
install and configure as long
as you have the Portal and Database on the same server. We have ours on
separate servers, and after
some work the Aptare Tech support it is working well. Their tech support is
excellent.
The tool works very well. It has extensive reporting capability, plus
immediate posting of backup status to the
database. We use it to generate reports on backup status we need for our SOX
compliance
I highly recommend this product
=
Carl Stehman
IT Distributed Services Team
Pepco Holdings, Inc.
202-331-6619
Pager 301-765-2703
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Hello all,
we're looking at purchasing Aptare for our NetBackup and BackupExec (yes, they
will be supporting BE this starting this month) environments. It's it promoted
for the most part as easy plug-n-play. Does anyone have any lessons learned
regarding the implementation of this tool? Any info is appreciated.
Thanks,
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare gotchas?
On 11/15/2006 12:05 PM, Tschida, Tom (STP) wrote: > we're looking at purchasing Aptare for our NetBackup and BackupExec > (yes, they will be supporting BE this starting this month) > environments. It's it promoted for the most part as easy plug-n-play. > Does anyone have any lessons learned regarding the implementation of > this tool? Any info is appreciated. Hi Tom, I'm local to you (in STP) so feel free to contact me anytime. I've been using StorageConsole for a few years and am a very satisfied customer. The one thing to watch for is to make sure your partitions on the portal are large enough. I used a mirrored 146GB drive and created 5 20GB partitions for the data and its backup. It's been working fine for us (146GB is probably overkill but the delta between a 72 and a 146 isn't much these days). Make sure you do have some sort of drive space monitoring - I have seen the volume with the temporary table space consume too much space (and there's a simple procedure to compress the table) and it's not nice to fill a database volume. Overall, it's been simply a matter of installing the portal and letting it run. The most time is spent on making sure your server groups are in groupings that make sense to your business. Although it uses Oracle underneath, I know next to nothing about Oracle and our Oracle DBAs don't need to look at the system at all. Anything you need to know (like accessing the database directly) you can get from Aptare. Finally, the biggest gotcha is that every NetBackup maintenance pak replaces backup_exit_notify and this file is used to add entries to the file that StorageConsole needs. I've forgotten about this NetBackup patch "feature" more than once and have a formal change request in to Symantec to do something like a backup_exit_notify.local that doesn't get overwritten but gets executed if it exists. If you haven't purchased the product yet, have a really good look at the features that are important to you. Aptare has been very receptive to feature requests in the past (a few of the features in the product there now are because I asked for them) but it's always easier to negotiate new features at purchase time than later. You will find Aptare a pleasant surprise to deal with. Sales and tech support are both top-notch. Cheers, .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare gotchas?
* Tschida, Tom (STP) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-15 12:05]: > Hello all, > > we're looking at purchasing Aptare for our NetBackup and BackupExec > (yes, they will be supporting BE this starting this month) environments. > It's it promoted for the most part as easy plug-n-play. Does anyone > have any lessons learned regarding the implementation of this tool? Any > info is appreciated. The implementation is generally pretty easy, we have done installs and upgrades over the last few years with only a few small issues. The biggest lesson learned I can give you is to read the documentation throughly BEFORE starting. It is pretty well laid out and not too hard to follow, but there are small things that you could miss if you don't pay attention. None of them are earth-shattering, but can be a little annoying. :-) Their phone support for the install is very good and the whole process took only a couple hours for us. -- David Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare gotchas?
I implemented Aptare in a previous position and it was a
great SA tool. I loved some of the features specifically the real time
backup monitoring in a single pane of glass for all my backup servers
worldwide. One of the other things that was great is that it would
highlight jobs that were running abnormally long in it's activity
monitor. It made my job of monitoring job status/failures
significantly easier. The reporting features were really good for capacity
planning and understanding backup window utilization. I can't say enough about
how great this product is. What other third party products are people
using for backup reporting on Netbackup?
I promise I don't work for Aptare =)
Dwayne Adams
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gotchas?
We have been using Aptare for about
three years. The latest release is easy to install and configure as
long as you have the Portal and Database
on the same server. We have ours on separate servers, and after
some work the Aptare Tech support it is working
well. Their tech support is excellent. The tool works very well. It has extensive
reporting capability, plus immediate posting of backup status to the
database. We use it to generate reports
on backup status we need for our SOX compliance I highly recommend this product =Carl StehmanIT
Distributed Services TeamPepco Holdings, Inc.202-331-6619Pager
301-765-2703[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello all, we're looking at purchasing Aptare for our
NetBackup and BackupExec (yes, they will be supporting BE this starting this
month) environments. It's it promoted for the most part as easy
plug-n-play. Does anyone have any lessons learned regarding the
implementation of this tool? Any info is appreciated. Thanks,
Tom
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare gotchas?
We have been using Aptare for about
three years. The latest release is easy to install and configure
as long
as you have the Portal and Database
on the same server. We have ours on separate servers, and after
some work the Aptare Tech support it
is working well. Their tech support is excellent.
The tool works very well. It has
extensive reporting capability, plus immediate posting of backup status
to the
database. We use it to generate
reports on backup status we need for our SOX compliance
I highly recommend this product
=
Carl Stehman
IT Distributed Services Team
Pepco Holdings, Inc.
202-331-6619
Pager 301-765-2703
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Hello all,
we're looking at purchasing Aptare
for our NetBackup and BackupExec (yes, they will be supporting BE this
starting this month) environments. It's it promoted for the most
part as easy plug-n-play. Does anyone have any lessons learned regarding
the implementation of this tool? Any info is appreciated.
Thanks,
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[Veritas-bu] Aptare gotchas?
Title: 185 error Hello all, we're looking at purchasing Aptare for our NetBackup and BackupExec (yes, they will be supporting BE this starting this month) environments. It's it promoted for the most part as easy plug-n-play. Does anyone have any lessons learned regarding the implementation of this tool? Any info is appreciated. Thanks, Tom Tschida Boston Scientific ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
