Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
http://www.coraid.com/ has 10Gbps 24 drive AoE boxes that appear to be well priced. Justin. On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Paul Keating wrote: Elaborate? IP/ethernet attached, like a NAS? -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin Piszcz Sent: September 10, 2007 5:17 PM To: Curtis Preston Cc: Kevin Whittaker; Forester,Jack L; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU Anyone here using a 10gigabit VTL/DSU unit? La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu.___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
Elaborate? IP/ethernet attached, like a NAS? -- > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Justin Piszcz > Sent: September 10, 2007 5:17 PM > To: Curtis Preston > Cc: Kevin Whittaker; Forester,Jack L; > VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU > > > Anyone here using a 10gigabit VTL/DSU unit? La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
Anyone here using a 10gigabit VTL/DSU unit? On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, Curtis Preston wrote: > Your sales rep is saying the right thing (pay per TB) and the other > sales rep is off base (pay per drive). I'm also saying don't shoot the > messenger, but any sales rep who is saying that a 6.x drive-based > license is valid for a VTL obviously hasn't read the licensing guide. > > This is what happens when you have a 50-page+ pricing schema. > > --- > W. Curtis Preston > Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com > VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Forester, Jack L > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:54 PM > To: Kevin Whittaker; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU > > That's the opposite of what our Symantec rep and resellers told us. > We're getting 2 EDL4400s and are paying by the TB. Not sure why > Symantec feels they're entitled to it, I think maybe Symantec has hired > some former RIAA execs. > > Jack L. Forester, Jr. > UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf > Lockheed Martin Information Technology > (304) 625-3946 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin > Whittaker > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 3:18 PM > To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU > > I have asked my account rep multiple times and been explained that I do > not have to license my VTL (EMC CDL720). Since it is presented as a > real robot to the OS, then NetBackup has no clue that it is not a robot. > > So, there is not always a cost for the VTL, depending on how you do the > setup. > > Kevin > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim > Horalek > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:34 PM > To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU > > 6.5 uses a sliding capacity model. 1-20TB would be priced about same per > TB. > Above 20TB the discount gets greater. > > Under Traditonal Model 6.5 > $995 List per TB "Usable Capacity" NBU for VTL (VTO) > > $0 DSU Free > $995 List DSU per TB with NetBackup Flexible Disk Option(FDO) (Advanced > Disk and SharedDisk) > > Enterprise Model 6.5 > $11,995 List per FE Terabytes includes Vault,SSO,FDO,VTO,OSO,NAS > Snapvault,NDMP) Most every thing you will ever need. > FE Front End, basically the total of all your fulls. Minus all copies of > redundant data. > > > Netbackup 6.0 > $1000 per TB VTL > > > Can't do NDMP to a DSU as far as I know. > Need Tape or VTL for NDMP. > > Jim > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dy018 > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 2:45 AM > To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU > > > > Hi, anyone having both VTL and DSU in your backup environment? or anyone > here did a compare between the both? > > I just need to know the Veritas Licenses cost for VTL and DSU if i want > to implement a 20TB Disk Storage. Thanks > > +-- > |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. Forward SPAM > |to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > +-- > > > ___ > Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu > > > ___ > Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu > > > ___ > Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu > ___ > Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu > > ___ > Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu > ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
So, the way I read this is that since you're going to want the advanced stuff (as it's really cool), there is no longer ANY licensing pricing advantage of DSUs over VTLs. When you add de-dupe to this, a VTL is far cheaper now if it offers de-dupe, even when you consider Symantec licensing. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Horalek Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 10:34 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU 6.5 uses a sliding capacity model. 1-20TB would be priced about same per TB. Above 20TB the discount gets greater. Under Traditonal Model 6.5 $995 List per TB "Usable Capacity" NBU for VTL (VTO) $0 DSU Free $995 List DSU per TB with NetBackup Flexible Disk Option(FDO) (Advanced Disk and SharedDisk) Enterprise Model 6.5 $11,995 List per FE Terabytes includes Vault,SSO,FDO,VTO,OSO,NAS Snapvault,NDMP) Most every thing you will ever need. FE Front End, basically the total of all your fulls. Minus all copies of redundant data. Netbackup 6.0 $1000 per TB VTL Can't do NDMP to a DSU as far as I know. Need Tape or VTL for NDMP. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dy018 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 2:45 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU Hi, anyone having both VTL and DSU in your backup environment? or anyone here did a compare between the both? I just need to know the Veritas Licenses cost for VTL and DSU if i want to implement a 20TB Disk Storage. Thanks +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. Forward SPAM |to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
Your sales rep is saying the right thing (pay per TB) and the other sales rep is off base (pay per drive). I'm also saying don't shoot the messenger, but any sales rep who is saying that a 6.x drive-based license is valid for a VTL obviously hasn't read the licensing guide. This is what happens when you have a 50-page+ pricing schema. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Forester, Jack L Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:54 PM To: Kevin Whittaker; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU That's the opposite of what our Symantec rep and resellers told us. We're getting 2 EDL4400s and are paying by the TB. Not sure why Symantec feels they're entitled to it, I think maybe Symantec has hired some former RIAA execs. Jack L. Forester, Jr. UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf Lockheed Martin Information Technology (304) 625-3946 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Whittaker Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 3:18 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU I have asked my account rep multiple times and been explained that I do not have to license my VTL (EMC CDL720). Since it is presented as a real robot to the OS, then NetBackup has no clue that it is not a robot. So, there is not always a cost for the VTL, depending on how you do the setup. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Horalek Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:34 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU 6.5 uses a sliding capacity model. 1-20TB would be priced about same per TB. Above 20TB the discount gets greater. Under Traditonal Model 6.5 $995 List per TB "Usable Capacity" NBU for VTL (VTO) $0 DSU Free $995 List DSU per TB with NetBackup Flexible Disk Option(FDO) (Advanced Disk and SharedDisk) Enterprise Model 6.5 $11,995 List per FE Terabytes includes Vault,SSO,FDO,VTO,OSO,NAS Snapvault,NDMP) Most every thing you will ever need. FE Front End, basically the total of all your fulls. Minus all copies of redundant data. Netbackup 6.0 $1000 per TB VTL Can't do NDMP to a DSU as far as I know. Need Tape or VTL for NDMP. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dy018 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 2:45 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU Hi, anyone having both VTL and DSU in your backup environment? or anyone here did a compare between the both? I just need to know the Veritas Licenses cost for VTL and DSU if i want to implement a 20TB Disk Storage. Thanks +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. Forward SPAM |to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
That's the opposite of what our Symantec rep and resellers told us. We're getting 2 EDL4400s and are paying by the TB. Not sure why Symantec feels they're entitled to it, I think maybe Symantec has hired some former RIAA execs. Jack L. Forester, Jr. UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf Lockheed Martin Information Technology (304) 625-3946 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Whittaker Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 3:18 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU I have asked my account rep multiple times and been explained that I do not have to license my VTL (EMC CDL720). Since it is presented as a real robot to the OS, then NetBackup has no clue that it is not a robot. So, there is not always a cost for the VTL, depending on how you do the setup. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Horalek Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:34 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU 6.5 uses a sliding capacity model. 1-20TB would be priced about same per TB. Above 20TB the discount gets greater. Under Traditonal Model 6.5 $995 List per TB "Usable Capacity" NBU for VTL (VTO) $0 DSU Free $995 List DSU per TB with NetBackup Flexible Disk Option(FDO) (Advanced Disk and SharedDisk) Enterprise Model 6.5 $11,995 List per FE Terabytes includes Vault,SSO,FDO,VTO,OSO,NAS Snapvault,NDMP) Most every thing you will ever need. FE Front End, basically the total of all your fulls. Minus all copies of redundant data. Netbackup 6.0 $1000 per TB VTL Can't do NDMP to a DSU as far as I know. Need Tape or VTL for NDMP. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dy018 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 2:45 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU Hi, anyone having both VTL and DSU in your backup environment? or anyone here did a compare between the both? I just need to know the Veritas Licenses cost for VTL and DSU if i want to implement a 20TB Disk Storage. Thanks +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. Forward SPAM |to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
Symantec changed the rules. VLT's are capacity based only. Part of their "original" reasoning was it was getting too expensive since people wanted far more expansion licenses. You may fall under Grandfather rules however. Don't flame me. Licensing this stuff is hard enough. Agreed Netbackup can't tell the difference. Generally Symantec doesn't care, as long as your trying to keep things licensed. Per 6.5 pricing guide NetBackup Library Based Tape Drive NetBackup support for physical tape drives controlled by a robotic library is licensed per physical tape drive; regardless of the manufacturer, type of device, or number of servers attached to the library. There is no charge for stand-alone, nonrobotic tape drives directly attached to a NetBackup Master/Media Server or NetBackup Server. This is not applicable to licensing virtual tape libraries (VTLs). Please see the Virtual Tape Library Option for that type of functionality. Product Description License per MSRP NetBackup Library Based Tape Drive Per Robotic Controlled Tape Drive $3,000 NetBackup Virtual Tape Option NetBackup Virtual Tape Option enables support for 3rd party virtual tape offerings and is licensed per terabyte of virtual capacity. Note that in the move to virtual capacity is a change from 6.0 where the Virtual Tape Option was licensed based on "usable capacity". With virtual capacity customers only need to license the amount of capacity they would like to use, not the maximum capacity their VTL device may hold. For example, if a customer's VTL can hold a maximum of 100TB but the customer will only be using 50TB this year, they may choose to only license 50TB of virtual capacity. If they later use more than 50TB they must purchase additional licenses. . NetBackup support for 3rd party virtual tape offerings . Supports unlimited number of virtual tape drives . Includes sharing of virtual tape drives; no SSO license required Product Description License per MSRP NetBackup Virtual Tape Option 1 TB of virtual capacity $995 NetBackup Virtual Tape Option for MAID Devices 1 TB of virtual capacity $495 Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Whittaker Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:18 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU I have asked my account rep multiple times and been explained that I do not have to license my VTL (EMC CDL720). Since it is presented as a real robot to the OS, then NetBackup has no clue that it is not a robot. So, there is not always a cost for the VTL, depending on how you do the setup. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Horalek Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:34 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU 6.5 uses a sliding capacity model. 1-20TB would be priced about same per TB. Above 20TB the discount gets greater. Under Traditonal Model 6.5 $995 List per TB "Usable Capacity" NBU for VTL (VTO) $0 DSU Free $995 List DSU per TB with NetBackup Flexible Disk Option(FDO) (Advanced Disk and SharedDisk) Enterprise Model 6.5 $11,995 List per FE Terabytes includes Vault,SSO,FDO,VTO,OSO,NAS Snapvault,NDMP) Most every thing you will ever need. FE Front End, basically the total of all your fulls. Minus all copies of redundant data. Netbackup 6.0 $1000 per TB VTL Can't do NDMP to a DSU as far as I know. Need Tape or VTL for NDMP. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dy018 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 2:45 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU Hi, anyone having both VTL and DSU in your backup environment? or anyone here did a compare between the both? I just need to know the Veritas Licenses cost for VTL and DSU if i want to implement a 20TB Disk Storage. Thanks +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. Forward SPAM |to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
True, we do not have a limit to the number of tape drives. -Original Message- From: Paul Keating [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 3:25 PM To: Kevin Whittaker; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU This depends on your license. We pay per tape drive, and you (apparantly) pay a flat rate regardless of how many drives you have. So, if your license is such that you are paying per drive, then there may be a considerable difference between the licensing per drive, vs per terabyte of usable storage, versus DSU (free?) Paul -- > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin > Whittaker > Sent: September 10, 2007 3:18 PM > To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU > > > I have asked my account rep multiple times and been explained that I > do not have to license my VTL (EMC CDL720). Since it is presented as > a real robot to the OS, then NetBackup has no clue that it is not a > robot. > > So, there is not always a cost for the VTL, depending on how you do > the setup. > > Kevin La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
This depends on your license. We pay per tape drive, and you (apparantly) pay a flat rate regardless of how many drives you have. So, if your license is such that you are paying per drive, then there may be a considerable difference between the licensing per drive, vs per terabyte of usable storage, versus DSU (free?) Paul -- > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Kevin Whittaker > Sent: September 10, 2007 3:18 PM > To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU > > > I have asked my account rep multiple times and been explained > that I do > not have to license my VTL (EMC CDL720). Since it is presented as a > real robot to the OS, then NetBackup has no clue that it is > not a robot. > > So, there is not always a cost for the VTL, depending on how > you do the > setup. > > Kevin La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
I have asked my account rep multiple times and been explained that I do not have to license my VTL (EMC CDL720). Since it is presented as a real robot to the OS, then NetBackup has no clue that it is not a robot. So, there is not always a cost for the VTL, depending on how you do the setup. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Horalek Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:34 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU 6.5 uses a sliding capacity model. 1-20TB would be priced about same per TB. Above 20TB the discount gets greater. Under Traditonal Model 6.5 $995 List per TB "Usable Capacity" NBU for VTL (VTO) $0 DSU Free $995 List DSU per TB with NetBackup Flexible Disk Option(FDO) (Advanced Disk and SharedDisk) Enterprise Model 6.5 $11,995 List per FE Terabytes includes Vault,SSO,FDO,VTO,OSO,NAS Snapvault,NDMP) Most every thing you will ever need. FE Front End, basically the total of all your fulls. Minus all copies of redundant data. Netbackup 6.0 $1000 per TB VTL Can't do NDMP to a DSU as far as I know. Need Tape or VTL for NDMP. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dy018 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 2:45 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU Hi, anyone having both VTL and DSU in your backup environment? or anyone here did a compare between the both? I just need to know the Veritas Licenses cost for VTL and DSU if i want to implement a 20TB Disk Storage. Thanks +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. Forward SPAM |to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
6.5 uses a sliding capacity model. 1-20TB would be priced about same per TB. Above 20TB the discount gets greater. Under Traditonal Model 6.5 $995 List per TB "Usable Capacity" NBU for VTL (VTO) $0 DSU Free $995 List DSU per TB with NetBackup Flexible Disk Option(FDO) (Advanced Disk and SharedDisk) Enterprise Model 6.5 $11,995 List per FE Terabytes includes Vault,SSO,FDO,VTO,OSO,NAS Snapvault,NDMP) Most every thing you will ever need. FE Front End, basically the total of all your fulls. Minus all copies of redundant data. Netbackup 6.0 $1000 per TB VTL Can't do NDMP to a DSU as far as I know. Need Tape or VTL for NDMP. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dy018 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 2:45 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU Hi, anyone having both VTL and DSU in your backup environment? or anyone here did a compare between the both? I just need to know the Veritas Licenses cost for VTL and DSU if i want to implement a 20TB Disk Storage. Thanks +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. Forward SPAM |to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Cost of VTL vs DSU
Hi, anyone having both VTL and DSU in your backup environment? or anyone here did a compare between the both? I just need to know the Veritas Licenses cost for VTL and DSU if i want to implement a 20TB Disk Storage. Thanks +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
