Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.
Hello Sagz Importing media and tapes from a 5.1 system into a new 6.5 is fully supported, and will work. Just please remember that it is a 2 step process. 1 Hour to read the header 4 Hours to read the entire tape. There is a section covered in this in the Sys Administrators Guide, but you can check the tool out for yourself by performing the following: Launch the Administrator Console >From the main window (If you see it) select IMPORT IMAGES and follow the Wizard on screen. Alternatively, on the left hand side of the window is the NetBackup tree structure. Click on Catalog and on the top left click IMPORT and under MEDIA ID select the Media in question. As I said, it is all covered in the Manual :-) Hope this helps a little bit! I know from Experience the ADIC Scalar 100 is not good, and when it is under load, problems arise. If it helps at all, it may be advisable to ensure you have the latest Tape Drivers and more importantly, all Firmware on all drives and Robot are at the same revision. This caused no end of trouble :-( Simon -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Sagz Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:03 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess. wow a lot of great info. Thanks for the replies. Here is the story to date: We found the old robot and drives (ADIC Scalar 100) but we are having trouble with it (don't know why... its only been sitting for 6 years). So I'm thinking of doing a tape import route. After talking to my vendor they want $14k for a new LTO3 drive and $10k for a used one. My boss threw the PO back at me. haha don't blame him. My major question going forward is this: These tapes were created under NB 5.1 I'm running 6.5.3 Will they import? Thanks again for all the replies. +-- |This was sent by brad.sagow...@noaa.gov via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 02:54:32PM -0500, Sagz wrote: > The catalog still shows the tapes in the robot but as I said... I can't do a > tape inventory. > > When I start a restore job it just sits there... I imaging getting hung up on > the bad robot. If the robot isn't working, you can select the tapes that are in the robot in the GUI. Click "move", make sure "Volume is in a robotic library" is unchecked and hit ok. The catalog should show the tapes are not in a robot. Now when you need them for a restore, you should get a pending mount request in the device monitor. -- Darren ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.
well good guess I better get started! on a side note. I got my Red hat 7.1 box running NB 5.1 back up and running. The robot (adic scalar 100 with two lto-1 drives) is alive but the picker seems broke so I can't teach the robot or get it to inventory tapes. in an effort to restore jobs without importing them to my current redhat 5.4 NB 6.5.3 setup I attached an lto3 standalone drive to the old setup I'm unsure how to do a restore relying on the standalone drive only. The catalog still shows the tapes in the robot but as I said... I can't do a tape inventory. When I start a restore job it just sits there... I imaging getting hung up on the bad robot. any ideas? If I could restore all the images to one of my raids... I'll just re-archive the stuff under NB 6.5.3 +-- |This was sent by brad.sagow...@noaa.gov via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.
I've imported many SDLT220 media written with NBU 5.1 into my 6.5.3 master without issue. -Jonathan ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.
wow a lot of great info. Thanks for the replies. Here is the story to date: We found the old robot and drives (ADIC Scalar 100) but we are having trouble with it (don't know why... its only been sitting for 6 years). So I'm thinking of doing a tape import route. After talking to my vendor they want $14k for a new LTO3 drive and $10k for a used one. My boss threw the PO back at me. haha don't blame him. My major question going forward is this: These tapes were created under NB 5.1 I'm running 6.5.3 Will they import? Thanks again for all the replies. +-- |This was sent by brad.sagow...@noaa.gov via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.
Ok... got the old system backup and I was trying to do a catalog backup to disk as the robot no longer exists and I get a media write error (status 84) I have two storage units setup currently and I set the catalog to backup to one of those but its not working with above error. should I delete the Robots and associated drives? +-- |This was sent by brad.sagow...@noaa.gov via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:47:47AM -0500, Sagz wrote: > > I'm new to Netbackup. Currently we have a 6.53 install with a Spectra Logic > t950 robot with LTO-4 Drives and LTO-4 Media. However there used to be a > different server with LTO-3 drives and LTO-1-3 media and a different hostname > and catalog this was decommissioned about 3 years ago. > > Now I have a couple requests to retrieve data off some of the LT0-1 media and > the old catalog is no where to be found. Ouch. How many tapes? Your only choices are to find an old catalog or to run 'bpimport' on tapes until you find the images in question. > I have an LTo-3 Drive but its standalone and won't integrate with the robot. You can attach the drive to your media server as standalone, but for this task where you might need to bpimport many tapes, the robot would be *very* valuable. How good is your relationship with your vendor? LTO-3 drives for a T950 must be pretty cheap these days. Could you explain the situation and get them to loan you a drive for a week or two? Then you could either partition the library and put that drive in and the LTO-1 tapes in separate storage bins, or you bring up the drive as a different type from the LTO4 ones (probably HCART3) and define the old volumes that way as well. -- Darren ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.
Absolutely, but I was giving one example for 1 tape :-) -Original Message- From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 11:28 AM To: WEAVER, Simon (external) Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess. Hi, > NOTE: It can take up to 4 hours to do a full import of a single tape. > HTH > Simon Yes, and many more hours if you have multiplexed backup streams which span multiple tapes. Justin. On Wed, 13 Jan 2010, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote: > Netbackup should be more than happy to talk to the stand alone drive. > > Then it is a case of importing the tape (or tapes) that is needed for > the restore. if you have an inventory of what was on the media, then > you should be ok. > > NOTE: It can take up to 4 hours to do a full import of a single tape. > HTH > Simon > > -Original Message- > From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Sagz > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:48 PM > To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > Subject: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess. > > > I have a problem. > > I'm new to Netbackup. Currently we have a 6.53 install with a Spectra > Logic t950 robot with LTO-4 Drives and LTO-4 Media. However there > used to be a different server with LTO-3 drives and LTO-1-3 media and > a different hostname and catalog this was decommissioned about 3 years > ago. > > Now I have a couple requests to retrieve data off some of the LT0-1 > media and the old catalog is no where to be found. > > I have an LTo-3 Drive but its standalone and won't integrate with the > robot. > > How would you all proceed? > > +- > +- > |This was sent by brad.sagow...@noaa.gov via Backup Central. > |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. > +- > +- > > > ___ > Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu > > This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or > privileged information or information otherwise protected from > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the > sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do > not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but > delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium > disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus > corrupted, altered or falsified. > -o- > Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 > Registered Office: > Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England > ___ > Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu > This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.
Hi, > NOTE: It can take up to 4 hours to do a full import of a single tape. > HTH > Simon Yes, and many more hours if you have multiplexed backup streams which span multiple tapes. Justin. On Wed, 13 Jan 2010, WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote: > Netbackup should be more than happy to talk to the stand alone drive. > > Then it is a case of importing the tape (or tapes) that is needed for > the restore. if you have an inventory of what was on the media, then you > should be ok. > > NOTE: It can take up to 4 hours to do a full import of a single tape. > HTH > Simon > > -Original Message- > From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Sagz > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:48 PM > To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > Subject: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess. > > > I have a problem. > > I'm new to Netbackup. Currently we have a 6.53 install with a Spectra > Logic t950 robot with LTO-4 Drives and LTO-4 Media. However there used > to be a different server with LTO-3 drives and LTO-1-3 media and a > different hostname and catalog this was decommissioned about 3 years > ago. > > Now I have a couple requests to retrieve data off some of the LT0-1 > media and the old catalog is no where to be found. > > I have an LTo-3 Drive but its standalone and won't integrate with the > robot. > > How would you all proceed? > > +-- > |This was sent by brad.sagow...@noaa.gov via Backup Central. > |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. > +-- > > > ___ > Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu > > This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential > and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected > from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please > notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any > attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its > content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments > from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this > email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. > -o- > Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 > Registered Office: > Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England > ___ > Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu > ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.
Netbackup should be more than happy to talk to the stand alone drive. Then it is a case of importing the tape (or tapes) that is needed for the restore. if you have an inventory of what was on the media, then you should be ok. NOTE: It can take up to 4 hours to do a full import of a single tape. HTH Simon -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Sagz Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:48 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess. I have a problem. I'm new to Netbackup. Currently we have a 6.53 install with a Spectra Logic t950 robot with LTO-4 Drives and LTO-4 Media. However there used to be a different server with LTO-3 drives and LTO-1-3 media and a different hostname and catalog this was decommissioned about 3 years ago. Now I have a couple requests to retrieve data off some of the LT0-1 media and the old catalog is no where to be found. I have an LTo-3 Drive but its standalone and won't integrate with the robot. How would you all proceed? +-- |This was sent by brad.sagow...@noaa.gov via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.
I'm out at dinner right now, and I'm therefore not near my NetBackup documentation, but I believe you'll want to check /usr/openv/netbackup/db/images/When I get home I'll check my notes to see if I'm correct. Good luck! - Heathe Kyle Yeakley -- Sent from my Palm Prē Sagz wrote: Update: I actually found the old server but it won't boot (redhat 7.1) I was able to mount the filesystems to try and grab the catalog. Where could I look? i have access to /usr/openv/netbackup thanks +-- |This was sent by brad.sagow...@noaa.gov via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.
/usr/openv/netbackup/db/images/client_name (where client_name is the name of the host you are trying to restore data from) In there will be directories based on the "ctime" the backup was originally taken. The directory names will by something like 123400, where 1234 are the first 4 digits of the ctime. In that directory will be a *FULL file for each backup image taken in that perioud (that hasn't since expired). The FRAG records in that file will tell you what tape/s the backup is on. Asssuming you have another running NBU system, you can import that tape. However, I find it easier just to copy the *FULL and *.f or *.f.Z file across to the new server. If you elect to just copy the catalog files over, you'll need the following line in bp.conf FORCE_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVER = old new (where "old" is the old media server name which is listed in the *FULL file mentioned above, and new is the new server with access to the LTO3 tape drive). Having said all that, if the expiration date of the backup has passed, these catalog files will probably be gone. Good luck! Dean On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Sagz wrote: > > Update: > > I actually found the old server but it won't boot (redhat 7.1) > > I was able to mount the filesystems to try and grab the catalog. Where > could I look? > > i have access to /usr/openv/netbackup > > thanks > > +-- > |This was sent by brad.sagow...@noaa.gov via Backup Central. > |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. > +-- > > > ___ > Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu > http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu > ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.
Update: I actually found the old server but it won't boot (redhat 7.1) I was able to mount the filesystems to try and grab the catalog. Where could I look? i have access to /usr/openv/netbackup thanks +-- |This was sent by brad.sagow...@noaa.gov via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, rusty.ma...@sungard.com wrote: > Importing is a 2 phase process. You have to read the headers of the backup > image off the tape first, then actually read the contents of the image to > populate the metadata into the catalog. It's pretty simple, and you can read > the details about how to do it in the Admin Guide. You'll have to manually > switch the tapes out since you don't have a robot, so you'll have to watch > NBU for when it's ready for the next one. Also remember that as you import tapes (images), your images directory will grow accordingly. If you import 200 tapes and the catalog at that time was 100GB, your images directory (and catalog) will grow by 100GB. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.
You can import the LTO1 media (using the LTO3 drives, obviously) into the new catalogs. Hopefully you know which tapes the data is on, otherwise you have to import each tape until you find what you need. Before you insert these tapes into the drive, make sure you write protect them, and have them put in a volume pool that NBU will not use for backups. Importing is a 2 phase process. You have to read the headers of the backup image off the tape first, then actually read the contents of the image to populate the metadata into the catalog. It's pretty simple, and you can read the details about how to do it in the Admin Guide. You'll have to manually switch the tapes out since you don't have a robot, so you'll have to watch NBU for when it's ready for the next one. Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP, VCS ▪ Sr. Storage Engineer ▪ SunGard Availability Services ▪ 757 N. Eldridge Suite 200, Houston TX 77079 ▪ 281-584-4693 Keeping People and Information Connected® ▪ http://availability.sungard.com/ P Think before you print CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. Sagz Sent by: 01/12/2010 10:48 AM Please respond to VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU To VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU cc Subject [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess. I have a problem. I'm new to Netbackup. Currently we have a 6.53 install with a Spectra Logic t950 robot with LTO-4 Drives and LTO-4 Media. However there used to be a different server with LTO-3 drives and LTO-1-3 media and a different hostname and catalog this was decommissioned about 3 years ago. Now I have a couple requests to retrieve data off some of the LT0-1 media and the old catalog is no where to be found. I have an LTo-3 Drive but its standalone and won't integrate with the robot. How would you all proceed? +-- |This was sent by brad.sagow...@noaa.gov via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.
The standalone tape drives does not need to "integrate" with the robot. If the drive is attached to the master or media server you can add it to netbackup as a standalone drive. Your real problem is do you know what tape your data is on? If you do then you can use the standalone drive to import the tape into netbackup, then you can do the restore. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Sagz Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:48 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess. I have a problem. I'm new to Netbackup. Currently we have a 6.53 install with a Spectra Logic t950 robot with LTO-4 Drives and LTO-4 Media. However there used to be a different server with LTO-3 drives and LTO-1-3 media and a different hostname and catalog this was decommissioned about 3 years ago. Now I have a couple requests to retrieve data off some of the LT0-1 media and the old catalog is no where to be found. I have an LTo-3 Drive but its standalone and won't integrate with the robot. How would you all proceed? +-- |This was sent by brad.sagow...@noaa.gov via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] I inherited a mess.
I have a problem. I'm new to Netbackup. Currently we have a 6.53 install with a Spectra Logic t950 robot with LTO-4 Drives and LTO-4 Media. However there used to be a different server with LTO-3 drives and LTO-1-3 media and a different hostname and catalog this was decommissioned about 3 years ago. Now I have a couple requests to retrieve data off some of the LT0-1 media and the old catalog is no where to be found. I have an LTo-3 Drive but its standalone and won't integrate with the robot. How would you all proceed? +-- |This was sent by brad.sagow...@noaa.gov via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
