Re: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option Cancel Alljobs in Netbackup Java Console.

2008-12-23 Thread judy_hinchcliffe
Only thing I can say is use the remote admin console for windows ( not the java 
console) as it does NOT have that option on the right-click.


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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel Alljobs 
 in Netbackup Java Console.


This is what I am talking about ,  can the Cancel ALL JOBS be disabled by
some way ...???

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   RE: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to  
   disable the option  Cancel Alljobs 
in Netbackup Java Console.
   
   
   
   
   
   




Instead of going to actions and cancel, why don't you all just right
click the one job you want to cancel and then choose cancel ( there is
not cancel all in a right click).

( I had to look up what you are talking about because I did not know
there was a cancel all, I just highlight the jobs I want to cancel and
right click)

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From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff
Lightner
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:15 PM
To: Kurian K Oommen; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel
Alljobs  in Netbackup Java Console.

Not that I've ever found.

This is one of my biggest pet peeves with design of NBU:
1)  They put it right next to the Cancel Job button.
2)  They use EXACTLY the same text when asking you to confirm cancel all
as they do when canceling a single job.
3)  The highlight goes away so you are not sure you picked the correct
option unless you reselect it and don't let the mouse move a hair's
breadth.

What I always tell people is do NOT click Ok on the verification unless
the option you want was still highlighted right before it came up.

Most people do the cancel all at least once before they learn to pay
attention.

IMHO if you have someone that does the cancel all on a regular basis
they should be fired for being too stupid to live.  Of course management
never does things that make sense.  I worked at a place where we had a
full NIS implementation with master and slave servers.   One putz
routinely pushed maps from the slave instead of the master causing
Production to stop in its tracks.  Instead of firing this bozo
management decided we shouldn't use NIS.   Let's hope your management
doesn't make a similarly enlightened decision regarding NBU.

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Kurian K
Oommen
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:38 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel All
jobs  in Netbackup Java Console.

Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel All jobs  in Netbackup
Java
Console (Activity Monitor) . ? How ?



Regards


K.O Kurian

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option Cancel Alljobs in Netbackup Java Console.

2008-12-22 Thread judy_hinchcliffe
Instead of going to actions and cancel, why don't you all just right
click the one job you want to cancel and then choose cancel ( there is
not cancel all in a right click).

( I had to look up what you are talking about because I did not know
there was a cancel all, I just highlight the jobs I want to cancel and
right click)

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff
Lightner
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:15 PM
To: Kurian K Oommen; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel
Alljobs  in Netbackup Java Console.

Not that I've ever found.

This is one of my biggest pet peeves with design of NBU:
1)  They put it right next to the Cancel Job button.
2)  They use EXACTLY the same text when asking you to confirm cancel all
as they do when canceling a single job.  
3)  The highlight goes away so you are not sure you picked the correct
option unless you reselect it and don't let the mouse move a hair's
breadth.

What I always tell people is do NOT click Ok on the verification unless
the option you want was still highlighted right before it came up.

Most people do the cancel all at least once before they learn to pay
attention.   

IMHO if you have someone that does the cancel all on a regular basis
they should be fired for being too stupid to live.  Of course management
never does things that make sense.  I worked at a place where we had a
full NIS implementation with master and slave servers.   One putz
routinely pushed maps from the slave instead of the master causing
Production to stop in its tracks.  Instead of firing this bozo
management decided we shouldn't use NIS.   Let's hope your management
doesn't make a similarly enlightened decision regarding NBU.

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Kurian K
Oommen
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:38 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel All
jobs  in Netbackup Java Console.

Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel All jobs  in Netbackup
Java
Console (Activity Monitor) . ? How ?



Regards


K.O Kurian

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option Cancel Alljobs in Netbackup Java Console.

2008-12-22 Thread Reynolds, Susan K.
That's also why I hate giving Activity Monitor access to some users
because they can hit the wrong thing by accident. I am very eager to
receive Aptare license and just keep people out of the GUI all together
who don't need to be there -- not that I'm trying to be exclusive, but
looking for better ways to provide them meaningful information without
accidentally clicking on the wrong thing and blowing away queued jobs.

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From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff
Lightner
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 12:15 PM
To: Kurian K Oommen; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel
Alljobs  in Netbackup Java Console.

Not that I've ever found.

This is one of my biggest pet peeves with design of NBU:
1)  They put it right next to the Cancel Job button.
2)  They use EXACTLY the same text when asking you to confirm cancel all
as they do when canceling a single job.  
3)  The highlight goes away so you are not sure you picked the correct
option unless you reselect it and don't let the mouse move a hair's
breadth.

What I always tell people is do NOT click Ok on the verification unless
the option you want was still highlighted right before it came up.

Most people do the cancel all at least once before they learn to pay
attention.   

IMHO if you have someone that does the cancel all on a regular basis
they should be fired for being too stupid to live.  Of course management
never does things that make sense.  I worked at a place where we had a
full NIS implementation with master and slave servers.   One putz
routinely pushed maps from the slave instead of the master causing
Production to stop in its tracks.  Instead of firing this bozo
management decided we shouldn't use NIS.   Let's hope your management
doesn't make a similarly enlightened decision regarding NBU.

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Kurian K
Oommen
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:38 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel All
jobs  in Netbackup Java Console.

Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel All jobs  in Netbackup
Java Console (Activity Monitor) . ? How ?



Regards


K.O Kurian

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option Cancel Alljobs in Netbackup Java Console.

2008-12-22 Thread Jeff Lightner
Because your method requires me to pull up each individual job and
cancel each individually.  Sometimes I'm highlighting a group of related
jobs and canceling those.  

On a related note:  
If you're doing a series of related jobs (e.g. multiple streams and/or
multiple copies) all started by one policy at the same time there's
usually a master job that can be canceled or suspended that will pass on
the cancel or suspend to all the rest of the related ones.   We didn't
realize it worked that way for a quite a while so got to see the most
interesting messages on resuming or restarting.  D'oh!

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From: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com
[mailto:judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:19 PM
To: Jeff Lightner; ko.kur...@in.ibm.com;
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel
Alljobs  in Netbackup Java Console.

Instead of going to actions and cancel, why don't you all just right
click the one job you want to cancel and then choose cancel ( there is
not cancel all in a right click).

( I had to look up what you are talking about because I did not know
there was a cancel all, I just highlight the jobs I want to cancel and
right click)

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff
Lightner
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:15 PM
To: Kurian K Oommen; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel
Alljobs  in Netbackup Java Console.

Not that I've ever found.

This is one of my biggest pet peeves with design of NBU:
1)  They put it right next to the Cancel Job button.
2)  They use EXACTLY the same text when asking you to confirm cancel all
as they do when canceling a single job.  
3)  The highlight goes away so you are not sure you picked the correct
option unless you reselect it and don't let the mouse move a hair's
breadth.

What I always tell people is do NOT click Ok on the verification unless
the option you want was still highlighted right before it came up.

Most people do the cancel all at least once before they learn to pay
attention.   

IMHO if you have someone that does the cancel all on a regular basis
they should be fired for being too stupid to live.  Of course management
never does things that make sense.  I worked at a place where we had a
full NIS implementation with master and slave servers.   One putz
routinely pushed maps from the slave instead of the master causing
Production to stop in its tracks.  Instead of firing this bozo
management decided we shouldn't use NIS.   Let's hope your management
doesn't make a similarly enlightened decision regarding NBU.

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Kurian K
Oommen
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:38 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel All
jobs  in Netbackup Java Console.

Is it possible to disable the option  Cancel All jobs  in Netbackup
Java
Console (Activity Monitor) . ? How ?



Regards


K.O Kurian

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