Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

2007-04-26 Thread Bobby Williams
But if the bar code rule changes, how does NetBackup know that it is not a
new tape?
 
If you have 25 tapes sitting in offsite storage that NB read as ABC001-025,
you pull them back for a restore, NetBackup will not know anything about
them, assign them to scratch and you sit there wondering why the tapes don't
load.
 
Another scenario is that Quantum comes in and has to update the firmware on
a library and in the process has to remove all of the tapes to perform the
library calibration/verification (I have been through several of these).
All the tapes are put back into the robot (we know not all in the same
place).  How will NetBackup determine what is old, what is new, what is
borrowed, which admin is blue.
 
I have worked on this for over 6 months and have had a case opened/closed
with Veritas.  They concur with my dooms day scenario.
 
I have already had a similar thing happen on the install of a new library on
the same master that read 8 characters instead of 6 on the bar code label.
I caught it before tapes got overwritten.
 



Bobby Williams 
2205 Peterson Drive 
Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421 
423-296-8200 

 

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No - changing the media id generation rule (MEDIA_ID_BARCODE_CHARS in
vm.conf) affects the media id.  Changing the barcode rules (potentially)
changes the media type and volume pool.  Existing tapes won't be reallocated
to a new pool on a barcode change - if they did then every inventory of the
library would break netbackup.  vmupdate(1M) only assigns attributes to new
media.
 
If we could put regexps into vmrule e.g.
 
(made up vmrule -listall -b)
barcode  mediavolume max mounts/
tag  type pool cleanings description

--
*CU$ HC2_CLN  None50 LTO Cleaning Tapes
CLN  DLT2_CLN None20 DLT Cleaning Tapes

*L4$ HCART4   Scratch  0 LTO4 media
*L3$ HCART3   Scratch  0 LTO3 media
*L2$ HCART2   Scratch  0 LTO2 media
NONE   DEFAULT  None 0 
DEFAULTDEFAULT  Scratch  0 --


then the world would be a better place.  A trivial code change I'd bet and a
feature request that's been outstanding for several years.

 
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You can't change the bar code rules like that in mid stream.  It would
change the media id of every tape already in the library and put every
existing tape in scratch.
 
You are going to either have to partition the drives in separate partitions
(Yuk), or just pick your default tape type and add all of the other types
manually (not a big deal).  Existing tapes don't use the bar code rules
anyway, they are already known.  It is only NEW to the robot tapes that need
to have a bar code rule.
 
I have 2 i2K's with both LTO-3 and LTO-2.  No big deal.  I have them in the
same partition.  I use the LTO-3's mostly for tape to tape duplication for
offsite (LTO-2 duplicated to LTO-3 works great).  Most of the clients can't
push data fast enough to feed the LTO-3 tapes.  (Yes, I do multiplex some
mid range x3 to feed tapes data).  I use Staging disks to catch the really
slow ones and do disk to tape staging to the LTO-3 tapes.  If you put the
LTO-3's in their own partition, you could not use any tape duplication
between partitions.
 
Another major headache that I have at a site with 2 separate libraries (both
ADIC 1k's) is when one runs out of media, everything fails with 96 errors
and then moves to the other physical library.  Not a big issue until failure
stats are looked at.
 




Bobby Williams 
2205 Peterson Drive 
Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421 
423-296-8200 

 


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If you do this you need to take part of your six digit barcode range and
dedicate it to the particular media type.  
 
It's sad that Netbackup doesn't support proper regexps in the barcode rules
so that the 'L2', 'L3' (presumably) 'L4' last two digits of the barcode can
be used to select the media type.  We've had a feature request in for years
for this and it's gone nowhere (unless 6.x does it and our rep

Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix [NC]

2007-04-26 Thread misha . pavlov
Bobby, but from what I understand:

 But if the bar code rule changes, how does NetBackup know that it is not 
a new tape?

By checking the media catalogs.

 If you have 25 tapes sitting in offsite storage that NB read as 
ABC001-025
 you pull them back for a restore, NetBackup will not know anything about 
them,
 assign them to scratch and you sit there wondering why the tapes don't 
load.

If you put them back in the robot for the restore, you have to make sure 
NBU knows about them.
If it does not - then you'd have to import them.
Also, NBU has rules on which tapes it can and which tapes it cannot 
overwrite ( ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE )


 Another scenario is that Quantum comes in and has to update the 
 firmware on a library and in the process has to remove all of the 
 tapes to perform the library calibration/verification (I have been 
 through several of these).  All the tapes are put back into the 
 robot (we know not all in the same place).
And it does not matter for NBU which slot has which tape - that's 
libraries business.

 How will NetBackup determine what is old, what is new, what is borrowed, 
which admin is blue.
Catalogs.

 I have worked on this for over 6 months and have had a case 
opened/closed with Veritas.
 They concur with my dooms day scenario.

They are there to solve the immediate issues mostly.
Scenarios are not welcome :-)


 I have already had a similar thing happen on the install of a new 
 library on the same master that read 8 characters instead of 6 on 
 the bar code label.  I caught it before tapes got overwritten.

I have no problems having 3 different media types in the 618 slots L700. 
All is peachy.


 Bobby Williams 
 2205 Peterson Drive 
 Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421 
 423-296-8200 
 
 
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 No - changing the media id generation rule (MEDIA_ID_BARCODE_CHARS 
 in vm.conf) affects the media id.  Changing the barcode rules 
 (potentially) changes the media type and volume pool.  Existing 
 tapes won't be reallocated to a new pool on a barcode change - if 
 they did then every inventory of the library would break netbackup. 
 vmupdate(1M) only assigns attributes to new media.
 
 If we could put regexps into vmrule e.g.
 
 (made up vmrule -listall -b)
 barcode  mediavolume max mounts/
 tag  type pool cleanings description
 
--
 *CU$ HC2_CLN  None50 LTO Cleaning Tapes
 CLN  DLT2_CLN None20 DLT Cleaning 
 Tapes 
 *L4$ HCART4   Scratch  0 LTO4 media
 *L3$ HCART3   Scratch  0 LTO3 media
 *L2$ HCART2   Scratch  0 LTO2 media
 NONE   DEFAULT  None 0 
 DEFAULTDEFAULT  Scratch  0 --  
 then the world would be a better place.  A trivial code change I'd 
 bet and a feature request that's been outstanding for several years.
 
 
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 'Spearman, David'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

 You can't change the bar code rules like that in mid stream.  It 
 would change the media id of every tape already in the library and 
 put every existing tape in scratch.
 
 You are going to either have to partition the drives in separate 
 partitions (Yuk), or just pick your default tape type and add all of
 the other types manually (not a big deal).  Existing tapes don't use
 the bar code rules anyway, they are already known.  It is only NEW 
 to the robot tapes that need to have a bar code rule.
 
 I have 2 i2K's with both LTO-3 and LTO-2.  No big deal.  I have them
 in the same partition.  I use the LTO-3's mostly for tape to tape 
 duplication for offsite (LTO-2 duplicated to LTO-3 works great). 
 Most of the clients can't push data fast enough to feed the LTO-3 
 tapes.  (Yes, I do multiplex some mid range x3 to feed tapes data). 
 I use Staging disks to catch the really slow ones and do disk to 
 tape staging to the LTO-3 tapes.  If you put the LTO-3's in their 
 own partition, you could not use any tape duplication between 
partitions.
 
 Another major headache that I have at a site with 2 separate 
 libraries (both ADIC 1k's) is when one runs out of media, everything
 fails with 96 errors and then moves to the other physical library. 
 Not a big issue until failure stats are looked at.
 
 

 Bobby Williams 
 2205 Peterson Drive 
 Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421 
 423

Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

2007-04-25 Thread Bobby Williams
You can't change the bar code rules like that in mid stream.  It would
change the media id of every tape already in the library and put every
existing tape in scratch.
 
You are going to either have to partition the drives in separate partitions
(Yuk), or just pick your default tape type and add all of the other types
manually (not a big deal).  Existing tapes don't use the bar code rules
anyway, they are already known.  It is only NEW to the robot tapes that need
to have a bar code rule.
 
I have 2 i2K's with both LTO-3 and LTO-2.  No big deal.  I have them in the
same partition.  I use the LTO-3's mostly for tape to tape duplication for
offsite (LTO-2 duplicated to LTO-3 works great).  Most of the clients can't
push data fast enough to feed the LTO-3 tapes.  (Yes, I do multiplex some
mid range x3 to feed tapes data).  I use Staging disks to catch the really
slow ones and do disk to tape staging to the LTO-3 tapes.  If you put the
LTO-3's in their own partition, you could not use any tape duplication
between partitions.
 
Another major headache that I have at a site with 2 separate libraries (both
ADIC 1k's) is when one runs out of media, everything fails with 96 errors
and then moves to the other physical library.  Not a big issue until failure
stats are looked at.
 



Bobby Williams 
2205 Peterson Drive 
Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421 
423-296-8200 

 

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix


If you do this you need to take part of your six digit barcode range and
dedicate it to the particular media type.  
 
It's sad that Netbackup doesn't support proper regexps in the barcode rules
so that the 'L2', 'L3' (presumably) 'L4' last two digits of the barcode can
be used to select the media type.  We've had a feature request in for years
for this and it's gone nowhere (unless 6.x does it and our rep hasn't
mentioned it).
 
rant  why's there no feedback on feature requests - even when they do make
it into a release you're left to scrabble round to see if it made it in
there.  /rant

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix


Use barcode rules and media types.  LTO2 media can be hcart2 and LTO3 can be
hcart3 (I think hcart stands for Half-Inch Cartridge.)  NBU will never put a
hcart2 tape into an hcart3 tape device.  TO NBU that's as incompatible as
having LTO and DLT in the same library.
 
-Jonathan

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix


 

We will be getting an expansion cabinet to our scaler 2000 soon. At the
moment we have LTO-2 drives and tapes. When we add the expansion cabinet we
are also going to add 2 LTO-3 drives with a set of LTO-3 tapes. My question
is how do I keep LTO-2 tapes going to LTO-2 drives while the LTO-3 tapes go
only to LTO-3 drives. I suspect a combination of storage units and tape
pools but now that we are at NBU6mp4 expired tapes just return to the
scratch pool which would make them available to anything.
 
present setup
 
W2K3 master/media with sso/ndmp to scaler 2000 (5 tape drives allowed)
W2K3 media server sso to scaler 2000 and DSSU (4 tape drives allowed)
W2K3 san media server sso to scaler 2000 
 
David Spearman
County of Henrico
 
 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

2007-04-25 Thread David Chapa
Two ways...buy the partitioning license for your i2K and have a separate
logical library for LTO2's and LTO3's

 

:-)

 

Or you can do it based on media type.

 

HCART2 Media (LTO2)

HCART3 Media (LTO3)

 

HCART2 Storage Units 

HCART3 Storage Units

 

NBU will only mount HCART2 media in an HCART2 storage unit and so on.

 

The media can reside in the same volume pool - that won't matter, what
matters is the media type and storage unit type.

 

david

 



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

 

 

We will be getting an expansion cabinet to our scaler 2000 soon.
At the moment we have LTO-2 drives and tapes. When we add the expansion
cabinet we are also going to add 2 LTO-3 drives with a set of LTO-3
tapes. My question is how do I keep LTO-2 tapes going to LTO-2 drives
while the LTO-3 tapes go only to LTO-3 drives. I suspect a combination
of storage units and tape pools but now that we are at NBU6mp4 expired
tapes just return to the scratch pool which would make them available to
anything.

 

present setup

 

W2K3 master/media with sso/ndmp to scaler 2000 (5 tape drives
allowed)

W2K3 media server sso to scaler 2000 and DSSU (4 tape drives
allowed)

W2K3 san media server sso to scaler 2000 

 

David Spearman

County of Henrico

 

 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

2007-04-25 Thread Spearman, David
Thanks everyone for your replies, 
 
David Spearman
County of Henrico

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Two ways...buy the partitioning license for your i2K and have a
separate logical library for LTO2's and LTO3's

 

:-)

 

Or you can do it based on media type.

 

HCART2 Media (LTO2)

HCART3 Media (LTO3)

 

HCART2 Storage Units 

HCART3 Storage Units

 

NBU will only mount HCART2 media in an HCART2 storage unit and
so on.

 

The media can reside in the same volume pool - that won't
matter, what matters is the media type and storage unit type.

 

david

 





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Subject: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

 

 

We will be getting an expansion cabinet to our scaler
2000 soon. At the moment we have LTO-2 drives and tapes. When we add the
expansion cabinet we are also going to add 2 LTO-3 drives with a set of
LTO-3 tapes. My question is how do I keep LTO-2 tapes going to LTO-2
drives while the LTO-3 tapes go only to LTO-3 drives. I suspect a
combination of storage units and tape pools but now that we are at
NBU6mp4 expired tapes just return to the scratch pool which would make
them available to anything.

 

present setup

 

W2K3 master/media with sso/ndmp to scaler 2000 (5 tape
drives allowed)

W2K3 media server sso to scaler 2000 and DSSU (4 tape
drives allowed)

W2K3 san media server sso to scaler 2000 

 

David Spearman

County of Henrico

 

 




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Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

2007-04-25 Thread McCammont, Anderson \(IT\)
No - changing the media id generation rule (MEDIA_ID_BARCODE_CHARS in
vm.conf) affects the media id.  Changing the barcode rules (potentially)
changes the media type and volume pool.  Existing tapes won't be
reallocated to a new pool on a barcode change - if they did then every
inventory of the library would break netbackup.  vmupdate(1M) only
assigns attributes to new media.
 
If we could put regexps into vmrule e.g.
 
(made up vmrule -listall -b)
barcode  mediavolume max mounts/
tag  type pool cleanings description

--
*CU$ HC2_CLN  None50 LTO Cleaning Tapes
CLN  DLT2_CLN None20 DLT Cleaning Tapes

*L4$ HCART4   Scratch  0 LTO4 media
*L3$ HCART3   Scratch  0 LTO3 media
*L2$ HCART2   Scratch  0 LTO2 media
NONE   DEFAULT  None 0 
DEFAULTDEFAULT  Scratch  0 --


then the world would be a better place.  A trivial code change I'd bet
and a feature request that's been outstanding for several years.
 



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Williams
Sent: 25 April 2007 18:21
To: McCammont, Anderson (IT); 'Martin, Jonathan (Contractor)';
'Spearman, David'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix


You can't change the bar code rules like that in mid stream.  It would
change the media id of every tape already in the library and put every
existing tape in scratch.
 
You are going to either have to partition the drives in separate
partitions (Yuk), or just pick your default tape type and add all of the
other types manually (not a big deal).  Existing tapes don't use the bar
code rules anyway, they are already known.  It is only NEW to the robot
tapes that need to have a bar code rule.
 
I have 2 i2K's with both LTO-3 and LTO-2.  No big deal.  I have them in
the same partition.  I use the LTO-3's mostly for tape to tape
duplication for offsite (LTO-2 duplicated to LTO-3 works great).  Most
of the clients can't push data fast enough to feed the LTO-3 tapes.
(Yes, I do multiplex some mid range x3 to feed tapes data).  I use
Staging disks to catch the really slow ones and do disk to tape staging
to the LTO-3 tapes.  If you put the LTO-3's in their own partition, you
could not use any tape duplication between partitions.
 
Another major headache that I have at a site with 2 separate libraries
(both ADIC 1k's) is when one runs out of media, everything fails with 96
errors and then moves to the other physical library.  Not a big issue
until failure stats are looked at.
 




Bobby Williams 
2205 Peterson Drive 
Chattanooga, Tennessee  37421 
423-296-8200 

 




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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:24 PM
To: Martin, Jonathan (Contractor); Spearman, David;
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix


If you do this you need to take part of your six digit barcode range and
dedicate it to the particular media type.  
 
It's sad that Netbackup doesn't support proper regexps in the barcode
rules so that the 'L2', 'L3' (presumably) 'L4' last two digits of the
barcode can be used to select the media type.  We've had a feature
request in for years for this and it's gone nowhere (unless 6.x does it
and our rep hasn't mentioned it).
 
rant  why's there no feedback on feature requests - even when they do
make it into a release you're left to scrabble round to see if it made
it in there.  /rant



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Jonathan (Contractor)
Sent: 25 April 2007 03:42
To: Spearman, David; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix


Use barcode rules and media types.  LTO2 media can be hcart2 and LTO3
can be hcart3 (I think hcart stands for Half-Inch Cartridge.)  NBU will
never put a hcart2 tape into an hcart3 tape device.  TO NBU that's as
incompatible as having LTO and DLT in the same library.
 
-Jonathan



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Spearman, David
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:17 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix


 

We will be getting an expansion cabinet to our scaler 2000 soon.
At the moment we have LTO-2 drives and tapes. When we add the expansion
cabinet we are also going to add 2 LTO-3 drives with a set of LTO-3
tapes. My question is how do I keep LTO-2 tapes going to LTO-2 drives
while the LTO-3 tapes go only to LTO-3 drives. I suspect a combination
of storage units and tape pools but now that we are at NBU6mp4 expired

[Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

2007-04-24 Thread Spearman, David
 

We will be getting an expansion cabinet to our scaler 2000 soon.
At the moment we have LTO-2 drives and tapes. When we add the expansion
cabinet we are also going to add 2 LTO-3 drives with a set of LTO-3
tapes. My question is how do I keep LTO-2 tapes going to LTO-2 drives
while the LTO-3 tapes go only to LTO-3 drives. I suspect a combination
of storage units and tape pools but now that we are at NBU6mp4 expired
tapes just return to the scratch pool which would make them available to
anything.
 
present setup
 
W2K3 master/media with sso/ndmp to scaler 2000 (5 tape drives
allowed)
W2K3 media server sso to scaler 2000 and DSSU (4 tape drives
allowed)
W2K3 san media server sso to scaler 2000 
 
David Spearman
County of Henrico
 
 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

2007-04-24 Thread Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)
Use barcode rules and media types.  LTO2 media can be hcart2 and LTO3
can be hcart3 (I think hcart stands for Half-Inch Cartridge.)  NBU will
never put a hcart2 tape into an hcart3 tape device.  TO NBU that's as
incompatible as having LTO and DLT in the same library.
 
-Jonathan



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix


 

We will be getting an expansion cabinet to our scaler 2000 soon.
At the moment we have LTO-2 drives and tapes. When we add the expansion
cabinet we are also going to add 2 LTO-3 drives with a set of LTO-3
tapes. My question is how do I keep LTO-2 tapes going to LTO-2 drives
while the LTO-3 tapes go only to LTO-3 drives. I suspect a combination
of storage units and tape pools but now that we are at NBU6mp4 expired
tapes just return to the scratch pool which would make them available to
anything.
 
present setup
 
W2K3 master/media with sso/ndmp to scaler 2000 (5 tape drives
allowed)
W2K3 media server sso to scaler 2000 and DSSU (4 tape drives
allowed)
W2K3 san media server sso to scaler 2000 
 
David Spearman
County of Henrico
 
 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

2007-04-24 Thread Preston, Douglas L
Do you have a mulyiple partition license for the I2k?  We have a 16
partition license on ours.  So far we only have the 14 LTO2 and 800
slots.  Once I can convince the powers that be in the money side of
things I would like to add a few LTO3 and a couple hundred slots for the
LTO3 tapes.  At that time I will be creating two partitions one for LTO2
and one for LTO3.  
Creating the partitions are not hard to do if you have the license.


Doug Preston
Systems Engineer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Spearman, David
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 12:17 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

 

We will be getting an expansion cabinet to our scaler 2000 soon.
At the moment we have LTO-2 drives and tapes. When we add the expansion
cabinet we are also going to add 2 LTO-3 drives with a set of LTO-3
tapes. My question is how do I keep LTO-2 tapes going to LTO-2 drives
while the LTO-3 tapes go only to LTO-3 drives. I suspect a combination
of storage units and tape pools but now that we are at NBU6mp4 expired
tapes just return to the scratch pool which would make them available to
anything.
 
present setup
 
W2K3 master/media with sso/ndmp to scaler 2000 (5 tape drives
allowed)
W2K3 media server sso to scaler 2000 and DSSU (4 tape drives
allowed)
W2K3 san media server sso to scaler 2000 
 
David Spearman
County of Henrico
 
 


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Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix

2007-04-24 Thread McCammont, Anderson \(IT\)
If you do this you need to take part of your six digit barcode range and
dedicate it to the particular media type.  
 
It's sad that Netbackup doesn't support proper regexps in the barcode
rules so that the 'L2', 'L3' (presumably) 'L4' last two digits of the
barcode can be used to select the media type.  We've had a feature
request in for years for this and it's gone nowhere (unless 6.x does it
and our rep hasn't mentioned it).
 
rant  why's there no feedback on feature requests - even when they do
make it into a release you're left to scrabble round to see if it made
it in there.  /rant



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin,
Jonathan (Contractor)
Sent: 25 April 2007 03:42
To: Spearman, David; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix


Use barcode rules and media types.  LTO2 media can be hcart2 and LTO3
can be hcart3 (I think hcart stands for Half-Inch Cartridge.)  NBU will
never put a hcart2 tape into an hcart3 tape device.  TO NBU that's as
incompatible as having LTO and DLT in the same library.
 
-Jonathan



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Spearman, David
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:17 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] LTO-2 LTO-3 mix


 

We will be getting an expansion cabinet to our scaler 2000 soon.
At the moment we have LTO-2 drives and tapes. When we add the expansion
cabinet we are also going to add 2 LTO-3 drives with a set of LTO-3
tapes. My question is how do I keep LTO-2 tapes going to LTO-2 drives
while the LTO-3 tapes go only to LTO-3 drives. I suspect a combination
of storage units and tape pools but now that we are at NBU6mp4 expired
tapes just return to the scratch pool which would make them available to
anything.
 
present setup
 
W2K3 master/media with sso/ndmp to scaler 2000 (5 tape drives
allowed)
W2K3 media server sso to scaler 2000 and DSSU (4 tape drives
allowed)
W2K3 san media server sso to scaler 2000 
 
David Spearman
County of Henrico


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