SV: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS..
Hi all, Thanks for all answers i got. Now I have something to think about… MVH / Hampus Lind Rikspolisstyrelsen National Police Board Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43 Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Hampus Lind Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:05 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS.. Hi, We run all our master and media servers on HP PA-RISC server and HP-UX as OS. These servers cost a lot, not only to buy, but also in maintenance... What do you guys think about going from the above to powerful INTEL server with linux as OS instead in a datacenter environment? We have about 200 clients and (all full is about ~15TB, never at one time though) to backup at one of our sites. Anyone using this type of solution in DC env`s? Recommendations?? Thankful for advice, MVH / Hampus Lind Rikspolisstyrelsen National Police Board Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43 Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS..
Johnny, Can't say I share the same opinion regarding issues with Linux running as media or master servers in a NetBackup environment. I've been using Linux (SLES 8/9) media servers in a SSO environment with ACSLS for the better part of a year and a half and haven't had any major issues. Sure, setting it up was challenging as there wasn't definitive documentation at the time. My media servers are a 2 x 3.4 MHz (multi threaded) using either Intel/AMD with 4 Gb of Ram driving 4 FC LTO II tapes drives (thru QLogic HBA's) with two 1 Gb NIC ports bonded together. No problems here. Scott J.>>> "Johnny Oestergaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/24/2006 1:11 pm >>> I don't know anything about Linux, but in our installation I use Windows 2003 on my combined master/media server. The server is a Dell 2850, 2 x 3,6 Ghz HT Xeon CPU's. I use 2 Emulex LP1 HBA's to give me access to the SAN (2 connections to disk and 2 to tapes) and one Qlogic HBA to connect to the library. Connection to our LAN is at the moment 2 Gbit/s The server feeds 4 STK9940B drives Except for the LAN connection I really don't have any problems with performance. Daily backup volume is around 2,5 - 3,0 TB from 80-100 servers running anything from NT 4.0 to Windows 2003, Exchange, SQL, SPS, BizTalk and God knows what. I even have a bunch of VMware ESX servers. After I migrate to NBU 6.0 I will add one extra media server and share the drives using SSO. Windows isn't the best operatingsystem for have I/O load, but I don't want to migrate to Solaris because of the extra cost and also don't want to use Linux because I am the only one who knows anything about Linux in our shop. And we have to pay a lot more for a RedHat ES server licens then what we pay for a Windows licens (NBU cost is the same for Windows and Linux) From all what I know about performance on an Intel box (or AMD) you would get a decent performance out of any box now-a-days for NBU use. I would go for a 4 CPU box using Xeon processors with 4 GB ram, some good HBA's and some good NIC's if I had the money. But a 2 processor box as the one I use can feed 4 drives in my installation without any real problem. Even if my info is from Windows, I hope you can use it. /johnny From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hampus LindSent: 24. januar 2006 20:05To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS.. Hi, We run all our master and media servers on HP PA-RISC server and HP-UX as OS. These servers cost a lot, not only to buy, but also in maintenance. What do you guys think about going from the above to powerful INTEL server with linux as OS instead in a datacenter environment? We have about 200 clients and (all full is about ~15TB, never at one time though) to backup at one of our sites. Anyone using this type of solution in DC env`s? Recommendations?? Thankful for advice, MVH / Hampus LindRikspolisstyrelsenNational Police BoardTel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS..
I don’t know anything about Linux, but in our installation I use Windows 2003 on my combined master/media server. The server is a Dell 2850, 2 x 3,6 Ghz HT Xeon CPU’s. I use 2 Emulex LP1 HBA’s to give me access to the SAN (2 connections to disk and 2 to tapes) and one Qlogic HBA to connect to the library. Connection to our LAN is at the moment 2 Gbit/s The server feeds 4 STK9940B drives Except for the LAN connection I really don’t have any problems with performance. Daily backup volume is around 2,5 – 3,0 TB from 80-100 servers running anything from NT 4.0 to Windows 2003, Exchange, SQL, SPS, BizTalk and God knows what. I even have a bunch of VMware ESX servers. After I migrate to NBU 6.0 I will add one extra media server and share the drives using SSO. Windows isn’t the best operatingsystem for have I/O load, but I don’t want to migrate to Solaris because of the extra cost and also don’t want to use Linux because I am the only one who knows anything about Linux in our shop. And we have to pay a lot more for a RedHat ES server licens then what we pay for a Windows licens (NBU cost is the same for Windows and Linux) From all what I know about performance on an Intel box (or AMD) you would get a decent performance out of any box now-a-days for NBU use. I would go for a 4 CPU box using Xeon processors with 4 GB ram, some good HBA’s and some good NIC’s if I had the money. But a 2 processor box as the one I use can feed 4 drives in my installation without any real problem. Even if my info is from Windows, I hope you can use it. /johnny From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hampus Lind Sent: 24. januar 2006 20:05 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS.. Hi, We run all our master and media servers on HP PA-RISC server and HP-UX as OS. These servers cost a lot, not only to buy, but also in maintenance… What do you guys think about going from the above to powerful INTEL server with linux as OS instead in a datacenter environment? We have about 200 clients and (all full is about ~15TB, never at one time though) to backup at one of our sites. Anyone using this type of solution in DC env`s? Recommendations?? Thankful for advice, MVH / Hampus Lind Rikspolisstyrelsen National Police Board Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43 Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS..
I would not recommend Linux for Netbackup environment ,simply because it cannot be restored on to dissimilar hardware in DR like scenario , there are other reasons as well . (I have a list ) .. On the cost , I don`t know about HP RISC but IBM`s P-series (RISC) hardware which runs AIX is cheaper than Intel hardware(surprised??) . I am working on a business case to move oracle running on Intel/Linux off to to AIX ,So comparing Pserise vs... Intel hardware (price,performance ,DR , LVM ,etc..) I know the pricing /quotes and other details about the hardware. send me an email offline if you need to know more about it . Our master and media is running on IBM pserise servers P550 . http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/p/ Shekhar Dhotre ICT Storage Engineering. v 404.846.7483 | f 404.848.1077 [EMAIL PROTECTED]48 Perimeter Center East | Atlanta, GA 30346 "Mistakes are a fact of life. It is the response to error that counts!" From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 2:17 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS.. A lot of us have been having trouble using Linux as a media server, especially in a drive-sharing environment. Check the history on ths list for a lot of details. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Hampus LindSent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:05 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS.. Hi, We run all our master and media servers on HP PA-RISC server and HP-UX as OS. These servers cost a lot, not only to buy, but also in maintenance... What do you guys think about going from the above to powerful INTEL server with linux as OS instead in a datacenter environment? We have about 200 clients and (all full is about ~15TB, never at one time though) to backup at one of our sites. Anyone using this type of solution in DC env`s? Recommendations?? Thankful for advice, MVH / Hampus LindRikspolisstyrelsenNational Police BoardTel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "This email (including any attachments) is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, use, disclose, distribute or rely on the information contained in it. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and delete the email from your system. Confidentiality and legal privilege attached to this communication are not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. Lend Lease does not guarantee that this email or the attachment(s) are unaffected by computer virus, corruption or other defects. Lend Lease may monitor incoming and outgoing emails for compliance with its Email Policy. Please note that our servers may not be located in your country."
RE: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS..
I agree. If you’re doing Fibre it doesn’t seem Linux does it well for existing SAN environments so far as storage goes. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS.. A lot of us have been having trouble using Linux as a media server, especially in a drive-sharing environment. Check the history on ths list for a lot of details. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Hampus Lind Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:05 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS.. Hi, We run all our master and media servers on HP PA-RISC server and HP-UX as OS. These servers cost a lot, not only to buy, but also in maintenance... What do you guys think about going from the above to powerful INTEL server with linux as OS instead in a datacenter environment? We have about 200 clients and (all full is about ~15TB, never at one time though) to backup at one of our sites. Anyone using this type of solution in DC env`s? Recommendations?? Thankful for advice, MVH / Hampus Lind Rikspolisstyrelsen National Police Board Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43 Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS..
A lot of us have been having trouble using Linux as a media server, especially in a drive-sharing environment. Check the history on ths list for a lot of details. -M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Hampus LindSent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:05 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS.. Hi, We run all our master and media servers on HP PA-RISC server and HP-UX as OS. These servers cost a lot, not only to buy, but also in maintenance... What do you guys think about going from the above to powerful INTEL server with linux as OS instead in a datacenter environment? We have about 200 clients and (all full is about ~15TB, never at one time though) to backup at one of our sites. Anyone using this type of solution in DC env`s? Recommendations?? Thankful for advice, MVH / Hampus LindRikspolisstyrelsenNational Police BoardTel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Veritas-bu] Master and Media HW and OS..
Hi, We run all our master and media servers on HP PA-RISC server and HP-UX as OS. These servers cost a lot, not only to buy, but also in maintenance… What do you guys think about going from the above to powerful INTEL server with linux as OS instead in a datacenter environment? We have about 200 clients and (all full is about ~15TB, never at one time though) to backup at one of our sites. Anyone using this type of solution in DC env`s? Recommendations?? Thankful for advice, MVH / Hampus Lind Rikspolisstyrelsen National Police Board Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43 Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
