[Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

2009-08-31 Thread oersted

you could try priming the filesystem cache by doing a dir /s prior to backup.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

2009-08-31 Thread Rusty.Major
Dave,

You could try using WinZip, WinRar, 7zip, or even NTBackup to create a 
flat file of all of these files for you. At a previous job we had a 
similarly designed application that created tons of directories for each 
client entry. Of course this was pretty static data, but it took a few 
hours just for NBU to traverse the directory structure in that area of the 
filesystem alone. Try that and see if it works any better for you.

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Not as yet. something i'll look at also.

I have spoke to the App guy and it makes sense the drive can't be locked 
to do a raw backup as it will be constantly in use by the application.

I'm a but stuck as to how to back this thing up now.

cheers

Donaldson, Mark wrote:
> Have you increased your timers yet?  Client_read_timeout springs to
> mind...
>
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> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dave
> Markham
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:11 AM
> To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue
>
> Running Netbackup 5.0Mp7 on Solaris 9 Master server.
>
> 10 odd network based clients some windows2000, 2003 and Solaris 8,9
>
> We are having trouble with one Windows 2000 server running Envision IDS 
> software which creates millions of files under a directory. 
> f:\nic\lsnode has 87gb data with 1.4million files. Luckily the directory
>
> is on a separate drive than the OS so there are options (hopefully).
>
> We currently can't get a backup as it fails with Status 14 or other
> issues.
>
> I'm asking for advise from windows side as i'm a Unix/Solaris engineer.
>
> I'm guessing i need to do some image type backup with flash or snap but 
> i dont have the advanced client license and as i'm on v5 i dont see how 
> i can get one.
>
> I've currently tried following this :- 
> http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/275912.htm
> and putting /\\.\F: in the file list for a new policy with the problem 
> client to do raw backup.
>
> However i get a Status1 and get the following error :-
>
> WRN - can't lock raw device for read: \\.\F: (F:) (Win32 5: Access is 
> denied. )
>
> I'm not sure why that is.
>
> Also i have not got any settings on the Client properties under VSP. I 
> dont have a cache file volume list or Cache File Size parameters other 
> than default. Should i be changing anything here?
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Cheers
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

2009-07-01 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Dave Markham wrote:

> I'm guessing this is the case that because this is an IDS monitoring box
> the directories and files on that volume are constantly in use. I
> suppose then the raw backup will never work?
>
> You'll have to excuse my ignorance with windows clients but isn't VSP
> installed with the client software or do i need to install it
> separately? I can't recall seeing it on the windows cd i have.


VSP is an optional, but default, component of the older clients.  Check for
VSP.SYS (in system32\drivers if I remember correctly) to see if it was
installed.   VSP is evil but back on Windows 2000, I don't think you have a
choice.

raw backup will work.  You need to define a separate cache volume for
FlashBackup and it needs to be large enough to handle all of the changed
blocks while the volume is being backed up.  It needs to be a minimum, I
think, of 300MB.  How large after that is totally dependent on the volume of
writes.

There is a separate document that discusses using the Advanced Client.  Read
and understand it.

We back up active volumes with tens of millions of them all the time.
Luckily for us, they're not very active.

FlashBackup has also been significantly improved over the years.  Because
you're running very old software, you could be running into issues that have
since been fixed.  If your business allows it, try to get to a supported
configuration on both the master and media servers,and then the clients,
especially those using special agents like this one.

.../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

2009-07-01 Thread judy_hinchcliffe
I am a unix person, but I believe the VSP is installed with it, as I
have never had to install it but I set a number of servers to use it.


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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

I'm guessing this is the case that because this is an IDS monitoring box

the directories and files on that volume are constantly in use. I 
suppose then the raw backup will never work?

You'll have to excuse my ignorance with windows clients but isn't VSP 
installed with the client software or do i need to install it 
separately? I can't recall seeing it on the windows cd i have.

cheers


mojomagix wrote:
> I think the reboot question is valid based on the "can't lock raw
device for read" message.  If some other entity is preventing NBU from
gaining access to the device that entity has to be "kicked off" somehow.
>
> Another option would be run a 'chkdsk /f /r' against that volume.
That will typically "kick everyone off" in the same manner that a reboot
would.  I suspect you'll see something like:
>
> "Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another
> process.  Chkdsk may run if this volume is dismounted first.
> ALL OPENED HANDLES TO THIS VOLUME WOULD THEN BE INVALID.
> Would you like to force a dismount on this volume? (Y/N)"
>
> If you do see that message, the process preventing chkdsk from running
is probably the same one preventing NBU from doing its backup.
>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

2009-07-01 Thread Dave Markham
Not as yet. something i'll look at also.

I have spoke to the App guy and it makes sense the drive can't be locked 
to do a raw backup as it will be constantly in use by the application.

I'm a but stuck as to how to back this thing up now.

cheers

Donaldson, Mark wrote:
> Have you increased your timers yet?  Client_read_timeout springs to
> mind...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dave
> Markham
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:11 AM
> To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue
>
> Running Netbackup 5.0Mp7 on Solaris 9 Master server.
>
> 10 odd network based clients some windows2000, 2003 and Solaris 8,9
>
> We are having trouble with one Windows 2000 server running Envision IDS 
> software which creates millions of files under a directory. 
> f:\nic\lsnode has 87gb data with 1.4million files. Luckily the directory
>
> is on a separate drive than the OS so there are options (hopefully).
>
> We currently can't get a backup as it fails with Status 14 or other
> issues.
>
> I'm asking for advise from windows side as i'm a Unix/Solaris engineer.
>
> I'm guessing i need to do some image type backup with flash or snap but 
> i dont have the advanced client license and as i'm on v5 i dont see how 
> i can get one.
>
> I've currently tried following this :- 
> http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/275912.htm
> and putting /\\.\F: in the file list for a new policy with the problem 
> client to do raw backup.
>
> However i get a Status1 and get the following error :-
>
> WRN - can't lock raw device for read: \\.\F: (F:) (Win32 5: Access is 
> denied. )
>
> I'm not sure why that is.
>
> Also i have not got any settings on the Client properties under VSP. I 
> dont have a cache file volume list or Cache File Size parameters other 
> than default. Should i be changing anything here?
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Cheers
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

2009-07-01 Thread Preston, Doug
What you need with NBU 5.x is to get an Advanced Client license and use
flashbackup on that client drive.  It will then allow you to back it up.
You will need a lot of cache space for NBU to use during the backup.  I
have one machine that has 2.5 TB of 3k files spread across 10 drives
that I use flashbackup on.  I have one 300GB drive that is strictly for
use by NBU for cache.  This works pretty good for us.

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To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

I'm guessing this is the case that because this is an IDS monitoring box

the directories and files on that volume are constantly in use. I 
suppose then the raw backup will never work?

You'll have to excuse my ignorance with windows clients but isn't VSP 
installed with the client software or do i need to install it 
separately? I can't recall seeing it on the windows cd i have.

cheers


mojomagix wrote:
> I think the reboot question is valid based on the "can't lock raw
device for read" message.  If some other entity is preventing NBU from
gaining access to the device that entity has to be "kicked off" somehow.
>
> Another option would be run a 'chkdsk /f /r' against that volume.
That will typically "kick everyone off" in the same manner that a reboot
would.  I suspect you'll see something like:
>
> "Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another
> process.  Chkdsk may run if this volume is dismounted first.
> ALL OPENED HANDLES TO THIS VOLUME WOULD THEN BE INVALID.
> Would you like to force a dismount on this volume? (Y/N)"
>
> If you do see that message, the process preventing chkdsk from running
is probably the same one preventing NBU from doing its backup.
>
>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

2009-07-01 Thread Dave Markham
I'm guessing this is the case that because this is an IDS monitoring box 
the directories and files on that volume are constantly in use. I 
suppose then the raw backup will never work?

You'll have to excuse my ignorance with windows clients but isn't VSP 
installed with the client software or do i need to install it 
separately? I can't recall seeing it on the windows cd i have.

cheers


mojomagix wrote:
> I think the reboot question is valid based on the "can't lock raw device for 
> read" message.  If some other entity is preventing NBU from gaining access to 
> the device that entity has to be "kicked off" somehow.
>
> Another option would be run a 'chkdsk /f /r' against that volume.  That will 
> typically "kick everyone off" in the same manner that a reboot would.  I 
> suspect you'll see something like:
>
> "Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another
> process.  Chkdsk may run if this volume is dismounted first.
> ALL OPENED HANDLES TO THIS VOLUME WOULD THEN BE INVALID.
> Would you like to force a dismount on this volume? (Y/N)"
>
> If you do see that message, the process preventing chkdsk from running is 
> probably the same one preventing NBU from doing its backup.
>
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[Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

2009-06-30 Thread Jayles

Increasing the time out limit will be good, but might not really solve the 
error code "0" and "1". It will also depending on your application. Suggest you 
run thru the files, and see if they are critical files that encounter error 0 & 
1. 

My experience with my customer is as such that the files are random when hit 
with error 0 & 1. In the end, they ignore the error msg.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

2009-06-30 Thread Donaldson, Mark
Have you increased your timers yet?  Client_read_timeout springs to
mind...

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Dave
Markham
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:11 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

Running Netbackup 5.0Mp7 on Solaris 9 Master server.

10 odd network based clients some windows2000, 2003 and Solaris 8,9

We are having trouble with one Windows 2000 server running Envision IDS 
software which creates millions of files under a directory. 
f:\nic\lsnode has 87gb data with 1.4million files. Luckily the directory

is on a separate drive than the OS so there are options (hopefully).

We currently can't get a backup as it fails with Status 14 or other
issues.

I'm asking for advise from windows side as i'm a Unix/Solaris engineer.

I'm guessing i need to do some image type backup with flash or snap but 
i dont have the advanced client license and as i'm on v5 i dont see how 
i can get one.

I've currently tried following this :- 
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/275912.htm
and putting /\\.\F: in the file list for a new policy with the problem 
client to do raw backup.

However i get a Status1 and get the following error :-

WRN - can't lock raw device for read: \\.\F: (F:) (Win32 5: Access is 
denied. )

I'm not sure why that is.

Also i have not got any settings on the Client properties under VSP. I 
dont have a cache file volume list or Cache File Size parameters other 
than default. Should i be changing anything here?

Any help appreciated.

Cheers
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[Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

2009-06-30 Thread mojomagix

I think the reboot question is valid based on the "can't lock raw device for 
read" message.  If some other entity is preventing NBU from gaining access to 
the device that entity has to be "kicked off" somehow.

Another option would be run a 'chkdsk /f /r' against that volume.  That will 
typically "kick everyone off" in the same manner that a reboot would.  I 
suspect you'll see something like:

"Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another
process.  Chkdsk may run if this volume is dismounted first.
ALL OPENED HANDLES TO THIS VOLUME WOULD THEN BE INVALID.
Would you like to force a dismount on this volume? (Y/N)"

If you do see that message, the process preventing chkdsk from running is 
probably the same one preventing NBU from doing its backup.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

2009-06-30 Thread Martin, Jonathan
Do you have the Veritas open file agent installed and have you rebooted?
Are you running the latest service pack for whatever version client?

I backup far more than 1.4 million files here on single Windows 2000
systems with and without Flashbackup without issue.

-Jonathan 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:55 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

Thanks for the info Bryan.

I have just changed the file path to \\.\F: and ran a test and i'm still
getting 'WRN - can't lock raw device for read: \\.\F: (F:) (Win32 5: 
Access is denied. )

I take it there's not other flash ways without advanced client license.

Cheers

Bryan Bahnmiller wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
>   The Flash backup documentation is wrong, at least for 6.5. Instead 
> of using /\\.\F: I had to use \\.\F:
> It will backup the entire volume. And since your "empty" space 
> probably hasn't been overwritten with zeros, it will take time to back

> it up. It should still compress like the rest of the volume. If you 
> had a VTL or are using de-dupe of some sort, even that "empty" space 
> would probably de-dupe quite well.
>
>   I just ran some tests. I had a 50 GB volume. I created about 9 GB of

> small files, about a million or so. The backup speed would start at 
> about 10 MB/s and then when it hit the millions of tiny files, the 
> speed drastically dropped resulting in a final average of 1.7 MB/s.
> However, the speed of the flashbackup of the raw volume ran 
> consistently at 11 MB/s, start to finish. So even though there was 
> only 10 GB to backup on a 50 GB volume, the 10 GB backup of files took

> 1hr 44m, and the flashbackup of 50GB took 1hr 30m.
>
>   Ideally you would want to split off the "bad" files in their own 
> volume, so you aren't backing up that much white space. Is it possible

> to shrink it in your environment? (With W2K it may not be possible.) 
> I'm not sure you can do a "mountpoint" inside of a filesystem on W2K.
> I know it is possible in W2003 and above.
>
>   Bryan
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dave Markham * Sent by: 
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> 06/30/2009 10:14 AM
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>
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
> To add The F:\  volume is 521gb with 134gb used. Does this mean 
> the raw backup is 134gb or 521 as i dont want it filling tape
unnecessarily.
>
> Ideally i'd like to do the mount point option and have a policy 
> backing up the mount point of the problem dirs e.g F:\nic\lsnode but i

> dont know how to make a mount point from a current directory in
windows.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave Markham wrote:
> > Running Netbackup 5.0Mp7 on Solaris 9 Master server.
> >
> > 10 odd network based clients some windows2000, 2003 and Solaris 8,9
> >
> > We are having trouble with one Windows 2000 server running Envision 
> > IDS software which creates millions of files under a directory.
> > f:\nic\lsnode has 87gb data with 1.4million files. Luckily the
> directory
> > is on a separate drive than the OS so there are options (hopefully).
> >
> > We currently can't get a backup as it fails with Status 14 or other
> issues.
> >
> > I'm asking for advise from windows side as i'm a Unix/Solaris
engineer.
> >
> > I'm guessing i need to do some image type backup with flash or snap 
> > but i dont have the advanced client license and as i'm on v5 i dont 
> > see how i can get one.
> >
> > I've currently tried following this :- 
> > http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/275912.htm
> > and putting /\\.\F: in the file list for a new policy with the 
> > problem client to do raw backup.
> >
> > However i get a Status1 and get the following error :-
> >
> > WRN - can't lock raw device for read: \\.\F: (F:) (Win32 5: Access 
> > is denied. )
> >
> > I'm not sure why that is.
> >
> > Also i have not got any settings on the Client properties under VSP.

> > I dont have a cache file volume list or Cache File Size parameters 
> > other than default. Should i be changing anything here?
> >
> > Any help appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

2009-06-30 Thread Dave Markham
Thanks for the info Bryan.

I have just changed the file path to \\.\F: and ran a test and i'm still 
getting 'WRN - can't lock raw device for read: \\.\F: (F:) (Win32 5: 
Access is denied. )

I take it there's not other flash ways without advanced client license.

Cheers

Bryan Bahnmiller wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
>   The Flash backup documentation is wrong, at least for 6.5. Instead 
> of using /\\.\F: I had to use \\.\F:
> It will backup the entire volume. And since your "empty" space 
> probably hasn't been overwritten with zeros, it will take time to back 
> it up. It should still compress like the rest of the volume. If you 
> had a VTL or are using de-dupe of some sort, even that "empty" space 
> would probably de-dupe quite well.
>
>   I just ran some tests. I had a 50 GB volume. I created about 9 GB of 
> small files, about a million or so. The backup speed would start at 
> about 10 MB/s and then when it hit the millions of tiny files, the 
> speed drastically dropped resulting in a final average of 1.7 MB/s. 
> However, the speed of the flashbackup of the raw volume ran 
> consistently at 11 MB/s, start to finish. So even though there was 
> only 10 GB to backup on a 50 GB volume, the 10 GB backup of files took 
> 1hr 44m, and the flashbackup of 50GB took 1hr 30m.
>
>   Ideally you would want to split off the "bad" files in their own 
> volume, so you aren't backing up that much white space. Is it possible 
> to shrink it in your environment? (With W2K it may not be possible.) 
> I'm not sure you can do a "mountpoint" inside of a filesystem on W2K. 
> I know it is possible in W2003 and above.
>
>   Bryan
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dave Markham *
> Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
>
> 06/30/2009 10:14 AM
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>   Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue
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> To add The F:\  volume is 521gb with 134gb used. Does this mean the
> raw backup is 134gb or 521 as i dont want it filling tape unnecessarily.
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> Ideally i'd like to do the mount point option and have a policy backing
> up the mount point of the problem dirs e.g F:\nic\lsnode but i dont know
> how to make a mount point from a current directory in windows.
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> Cheers
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> Dave Markham wrote:
> > Running Netbackup 5.0Mp7 on Solaris 9 Master server.
> >
> > 10 odd network based clients some windows2000, 2003 and Solaris 8,9
> >
> > We are having trouble with one Windows 2000 server running Envision IDS
> > software which creates millions of files under a directory.
> > f:\nic\lsnode has 87gb data with 1.4million files. Luckily the 
> directory
> > is on a separate drive than the OS so there are options (hopefully).
> >
> > We currently can't get a backup as it fails with Status 14 or other 
> issues.
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> > I'm asking for advise from windows side as i'm a Unix/Solaris engineer.
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> > I'm guessing i need to do some image type backup with flash or snap but
> > i dont have the advanced client license and as i'm on v5 i dont see how
> > i can get one.
> >
> > I've currently tried following this :-
> > http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/275912.htm
> > and putting /\\.\F: in the file list for a new policy with the problem
> > client to do raw backup.
> >
> > However i get a Status1 and get the following error :-
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> > WRN - can't lock raw device for read: \\.\F: (F:) (Win32 5: Access is
> > denied. )
> >
> > I'm not sure why that is.
> >
> > Also i have not got any settings on the Client properties under VSP. I
> > dont have a cache file volume list or Cache File Size parameters other
> > than default. Should i be changing anything here?
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> > Any help appreciated.
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> > Cheers
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

2009-06-30 Thread Dave Markham
To add The F:\  volume is 521gb with 134gb used. Does this mean the 
raw backup is 134gb or 521 as i dont want it filling tape unnecessarily.

Ideally i'd like to do the mount point option and have a policy backing 
up the mount point of the problem dirs e.g F:\nic\lsnode but i dont know 
how to make a mount point from a current directory in windows.

Cheers

Dave Markham wrote:
> Running Netbackup 5.0Mp7 on Solaris 9 Master server.
>
> 10 odd network based clients some windows2000, 2003 and Solaris 8,9
>
> We are having trouble with one Windows 2000 server running Envision IDS 
> software which creates millions of files under a directory. 
> f:\nic\lsnode has 87gb data with 1.4million files. Luckily the directory 
> is on a separate drive than the OS so there are options (hopefully).
>
> We currently can't get a backup as it fails with Status 14 or other issues.
>
> I'm asking for advise from windows side as i'm a Unix/Solaris engineer.
>
> I'm guessing i need to do some image type backup with flash or snap but 
> i dont have the advanced client license and as i'm on v5 i dont see how 
> i can get one.
>
> I've currently tried following this :- 
> http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/275912.htm
> and putting /\\.\F: in the file list for a new policy with the problem 
> client to do raw backup.
>
> However i get a Status1 and get the following error :-
>
> WRN - can't lock raw device for read: \\.\F: (F:) (Win32 5: Access is 
> denied. )
>
> I'm not sure why that is.
>
> Also i have not got any settings on the Client properties under VSP. I 
> dont have a cache file volume list or Cache File Size parameters other 
> than default. Should i be changing anything here?
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Cheers
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[Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

2009-06-30 Thread Dave Markham
Running Netbackup 5.0Mp7 on Solaris 9 Master server.

10 odd network based clients some windows2000, 2003 and Solaris 8,9

We are having trouble with one Windows 2000 server running Envision IDS 
software which creates millions of files under a directory. 
f:\nic\lsnode has 87gb data with 1.4million files. Luckily the directory 
is on a separate drive than the OS so there are options (hopefully).

We currently can't get a backup as it fails with Status 14 or other issues.

I'm asking for advise from windows side as i'm a Unix/Solaris engineer.

I'm guessing i need to do some image type backup with flash or snap but 
i dont have the advanced client license and as i'm on v5 i dont see how 
i can get one.

I've currently tried following this :- 
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/275912.htm
and putting /\\.\F: in the file list for a new policy with the problem 
client to do raw backup.

However i get a Status1 and get the following error :-

WRN - can't lock raw device for read: \\.\F: (F:) (Win32 5: Access is 
denied. )

I'm not sure why that is.

Also i have not got any settings on the Client properties under VSP. I 
dont have a cache file volume list or Cache File Size parameters other 
than default. Should i be changing anything here?

Any help appreciated.

Cheers
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