[Veritas-bu] NDMP Incremental backup

2008-06-04 Thread PGerard

Sure starting to look that way...oh well, thank-you.  I'll do some re-aligning 
and hope for the best.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Incremental backup

2008-06-04 Thread Green, Steven
Pat,

We backup a Celerra (NS80G) with dedicated tape drives and also perform
a weekly full and daily incremental. We've not had to concern ourselves
with ctime/mtimes of files - just set the policy schedule to an
incremental type (we run diffs) and let 'er rip. We do VBB backups of
our Celerra rather than the default PAX (tar) backups because we found
this to be a better performer with our LTO2 tape drives. VBB is
EMC-specific and must be set using a custom 'set type = vbb' line in the
policy (it's documented in Celerra NDMP backup manual). Note that VBB
requires usage of checkpoint (snapsure) files, whereas a PAX type of
backup it is optional.

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Hi everyone.  I am backing up an EMC Celerra using NDMP with one tape
drive attached to each of the data moversthis is working fairly
well...at least way better than the way it was beforebut I do have a
question about incrementals.  One of the file systems does pretty much a
ful everytime the incremental runs.  Could that be a CTIME/MTIME thing?
Is there a necessity to turn off CTIME?  Can someone please let me know?

Thanks

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[Veritas-bu] NDMP Incremental backup

2008-06-03 Thread PGerard

Hi everyone.  I am backing up an EMC Celerra using NDMP with one tape drive 
attached to each of the data moversthis is working fairly well...at least 
way better than the way it was beforebut I do have a question about 
incrementals.  One of the file systems does pretty much a ful everytime the 
incremental runs.  Could that be a CTIME/MTIME thing?  Is there a necessity to 
turn off CTIME?  Can someone please let me know?

Thanks

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[Veritas-bu] NDMP Incremental backup

2008-06-03 Thread Mike Heck
PGerard Wrote:

 

but I do have a question about incrementals.  One of the file
systems does pretty much a ful everytime the incremental runs.  Could
that be a CTIME/MTIME thing?  Is there a necessity to turn off CTIME?
Can someone please let me know?



 

The way incremental backups are handled in NDMP is via a setting called
Dump Level this can be a number between 0 and 9, 0 is the full backup
of the system and each level after that (1-9) backs up all the changes
the filer tracks since the last dump level. 

 

What you want to check is that the policy you have this filer in has a
weekly (or at least once every 10 days) full backup and the other
backups either cumulative or differential incremental backups. 

 

If you do a cumulative incremental backup the dump level for all
incremental backups will be 1 (meaning all the changes since the last
full). This will use more tape but will assure a faster recovery. If you
have a differential incremental you will see dump level from 1 to 9 or
in most cases from 1 to 4 (Monday through Thursday).

 

What you will want to do is look in the NDMP log for an incremental
backup to see what the Dump Level is set to. 

 

You do not happen to have any scripts that are cleaning up the streams
files from in the NetBackup\db\images directory do you?

 

Mike Heck

 

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[Veritas-bu] NDMP Incremental backup

2008-06-03 Thread PGerard

No...all of the other policies for the other file systems are built the exact 
same way and they are fine.  This particular one has outlook PST files in it, 
which are likely quite large, and I doubt they are ALL changing, so I suspect 
the time stamp gets modified when the users open it up with outlook...i guess 
it's possible they have some automatic archiving too and the minute even a 
single new email message makes it into the PST it is deemed as having changed 
and will get picked up by an incremental.  We are running differentials all the 
time with only Monthly backupswe have 30TB of Celerra and only 6 tape 
drives to back it all up, so doing it every week would be extremely tedious.  I 
thought maybe the ctime thing was causing this but the more I think about it, 
the more I think the files are just being modified on a daily basis.

Thanks

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Incremental backup

2008-06-03 Thread Tim Hoke
I sure know that my pst file is updated a lot every day. I'm sure that  
is the cause of your issue.

-tim



On Jun 3, 2008, at 5:35 PM, PGerard netbackup- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 No...all of the other policies for the other file systems are built  
 the exact same way and they are fine.  This particular one has  
 outlook PST files in it, which are likely quite large, and I doubt  
 they are ALL changing, so I suspect the time stamp gets modified  
 when the users open it up with outlook...i guess it's possible they  
 have some automatic archiving too and the minute even a single new  
 email message makes it into the PST it is deemed as having changed  
 and will get picked up by an incremental.  We are running  
 differentials all the time with only Monthly backupswe have 30TB  
 of Celerra and only 6 tape drives to back it all up, so doing it  
 every week would be extremely tedious.  I thought maybe the ctime  
 thing was causing this but the more I think about it, the more I  
 think the files are just being modified on a daily basis.

 Thanks

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