Re: [Veritas-bu] Need help with FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS

2007-09-17 Thread Paul Keating
Netbackup does this if you have it configured to do so.
 
You need to have entries on your clients to allow access from all of
your media servers, else you'll end up with Status 59.
 
then you create your STUs for each media server, create a STU-Group that
contains all of those STUs, and configure your policies to use the
STU-Group.
 
works a treat.
 
Paul
 
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Need help with
FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS





It makes a ton of sense! And, other data protection application
vendors get it. I was performing a bake-off with another vendor and I
inadvertently left 5 out of 6 media servers powered off. To my surprise,
the next morning when I came in, backups had transparently failed over
to the single, remaining media server! That's redundancy for you! This
redundancy mechanism also applies with storage units. If one storage
unit is for whatever reason unavailable, it'll fail over to a second,
third, fourth.however many redundant paths you have a particular
storage policy to use.


--Steve



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Need help with FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS

2007-09-14 Thread Sesar, Steven L.


Ah I was looking for the equivalent of FORCE_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVER but
only when the exsiting restore media server is busy.

This would make a lot of sense, yes?

It makes a ton of sense! And, other data protection application vendors
get it. I was performing a bake-off with another vendor and I
inadvertently left 5 out of 6 media servers powered off. To my
surprise, the next morning when I came in, backups had transparently
failed over to the single, remaining media server! That's redundancy
for you! This redundancy mechanism also applies with storage units. If
one storage unit is for whatever reason unavailable, it'll fail over to
a second, third, fourth.however many redundant paths you have a
particular storage policy to use. 


--Steve


Justin.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Need help with FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS

2007-09-14 Thread Justin Piszcz


On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Tim Hoke wrote:

> Justin,
>
> I think you are misinterpreting the parameter.  It has nothing to do with
> how busy a server is... It's if the server is totally not available
> (offline).
>
>> From the SAG:
> "Specifies automatic failover to another NetBackup server if a server is
> temporarily inaccessible for a restore."
>
> The key word is "inaccessible".
>
> If you need a temporary solution, look at bpmedia -movedb... you can "move"
> the server so that you can complete the restore, then move back.
>
> I though I heard at one point that this whole media "ownership" thing was
> going to go away.  I just don't know when.  That way, if you kick off a
> restore, it sounds like it would try to use the original host, else, find
> one that is available so I can just get the restore done... In the short
> term, bpmedia is your bet option.
>
> -Tim
>

Ah I was looking for the equivalent of FORCE_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVER but
only when the exsiting restore media server is busy.

This would make a lot of sense, yes?

Justin.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Need help with FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS

2007-09-14 Thread Tim Hoke
Justin,

I think you are misinterpreting the parameter.  It has nothing to do with
how busy a server is... It's if the server is totally not available
(offline).

>From the SAG:
"Specifies automatic failover to another NetBackup server if a server is
temporarily inaccessible for a restore."

The key word is "inaccessible".

If you need a temporary solution, look at bpmedia -movedb... you can "move"
the server so that you can complete the restore, then move back.

I though I heard at one point that this whole media "ownership" thing was
going to go away.  I just don't know when.  That way, if you kick off a
restore, it sounds like it would try to use the original host, else, find
one that is available so I can just get the restore done... In the short
term, bpmedia is your bet option.

-Tim

On 9/14/07, Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone here use FAILOVER RESTORE media servers?
>
> Justin.
>
> On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Justin Piszcz wrote:
>
> > I have a user-initiated restore in a library with > 20 tape drives.
> > More than 15 of them are free, the one it is trying to use for the
> > restore is completely utilized (all 4 drives are in use):
> >
> > 09/14/2007 01:21:11 - begin Restore
> > 09/14/2007 01:21:19 - number of images required: 1
> > 09/14/2007 01:21:20 - media needed: C00498
> > 09/14/2007 01:21:57 - restoring from image
the_client_hostname_1189167024
> > 09/14/2007 01:21:59 - connecting
> > 09/14/2007 01:22:00 - connected; connect time: 0:00:00
> > 09/14/2007 01:21:59 - requesting resource C00498
> > 09/14/2007 01:22:00 - awaiting resource C00498. Waiting for resources.
> >  Reason: Drives are in use, Media server: media_server_2,
> >  Robot Type(Number): ACS(0), Media ID: N/A, Drive Name: N/A,
> >  Volume Pool: N/A, Storage Unit: N/A, Drive Scan Host: N/A
> >
> > FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS is NOT WORKING.
> >
> > If media_server_2 is busy, it should failover to one of the other media
> > servers with free drives!
> >
> > media_server_2$ sudo /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/vmoprcmd -d ds
> >
> >  DRIVE STATUS
> >
> > Drv Type   Control  User  Label  RecMID  ExtMID  Ready   Wr.Enbl
.  ReqId
> >  0 hcart3   ACS   Yes   C00202  C00202   Yes
Yes0
> >  1 hcart3   ACS   Yes   C00200  C00200   Yes
Yes0
> >  2 hcart3   ACS   Yes   C02392  C02392   Yes
Yes0
> >  3 hcart3   ACS   Yes   C00197  C00197   Yes
Yes0
> > media_server_2$ logout
> >
> > media_server_3$ sudo /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/vmoprcmd -d ds
> >
> >  DRIVE STATUS
> >
> > Drv Type   Control  User  Label  RecMID  ExtMID  Ready   Wr.Enbl
.  ReqId
> >  0 hcart3   ACS   Yes   C00697  C00697   Yes
Yes0
> >  1 hcart3   ACS- No   -
0
> >  2 hcart3   ACS- No   -
0
> >  3 hcart3   ACS- No   -
0
> > media_server_3$
> >
> > My bp.conf file:
> >
> > # new config
> > FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_1 media_server_2
media_server_3
> > media_server_4 media_server_5 media_server_6 media_server_7
media_server_8
> > FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_2 media_server_3
media_server_4
> > media_server_5 media_server_6 media_server_7 media_server_8
media_server_1
> > FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_3 media_server_4
media_server_5
> > media_server_6 media_server_7 media_server_8 media_server_1
media_server_2
> > FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_4 media_server_5
media_server_6
> > media_server_7 media_server_8 media_server_1 media_server_2
media_server_3
> > FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_5 media_server_6
media_server_7
> > media_server_8 media_server_1 media_server_2 media_server_3
media_server_4
> > FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_6 media_server_7
media_server_8
> > media_server_1 media_server_2 media_server_3 media_server_4
media_server_5
> > FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_7 media_server_8
media_server_1
> > media_server_2 media_server_3 media_server_4 media_server_5
media_server_6
> > FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_8 media_server_1
media_server_2
> > media_server_3 media_server_4 media_server_5 media_server_6
media_server_7
> >
> > # COMMENT:
> >
> > I used to use FORCE_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVER but the problem with that is
> > you can only force it to an alternate media server, I want to make the
> > most use of the available capacity in the robot, how can I do this if
> > failover restore media server does not work?
> >
> > Justin.
> >
> >
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Need help with FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS

2007-09-14 Thread Justin Piszcz
Anyone here use FAILOVER RESTORE media servers?

Justin.

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Justin Piszcz wrote:

> I have a user-initiated restore in a library with > 20 tape drives.
> More than 15 of them are free, the one it is trying to use for the
> restore is completely utilized (all 4 drives are in use):
>
> 09/14/2007 01:21:11 - begin Restore
> 09/14/2007 01:21:19 - number of images required: 1
> 09/14/2007 01:21:20 - media needed: C00498
> 09/14/2007 01:21:57 - restoring from image the_client_hostname_1189167024
> 09/14/2007 01:21:59 - connecting
> 09/14/2007 01:22:00 - connected; connect time: 0:00:00
> 09/14/2007 01:21:59 - requesting resource C00498
> 09/14/2007 01:22:00 - awaiting resource C00498. Waiting for resources.
>  Reason: Drives are in use, Media server: media_server_2,
>  Robot Type(Number): ACS(0), Media ID: N/A, Drive Name: N/A,
>  Volume Pool: N/A, Storage Unit: N/A, Drive Scan Host: N/A
>
> FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS is NOT WORKING.
>
> If media_server_2 is busy, it should failover to one of the other media 
> servers with free drives!
>
> media_server_2$ sudo /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/vmoprcmd -d ds
>
>  DRIVE STATUS
>
> Drv Type   Control  User  Label  RecMID  ExtMID  Ready   Wr.Enbl.  ReqId
>  0 hcart3   ACS   Yes   C00202  C00202   Yes Yes0
>  1 hcart3   ACS   Yes   C00200  C00200   Yes Yes0
>  2 hcart3   ACS   Yes   C02392  C02392   Yes Yes0
>  3 hcart3   ACS   Yes   C00197  C00197   Yes Yes0
> media_server_2$ logout
>
> media_server_3$ sudo /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/vmoprcmd -d ds
>
>  DRIVE STATUS
>
> Drv Type   Control  User  Label  RecMID  ExtMID  Ready   Wr.Enbl.  ReqId
>  0 hcart3   ACS   Yes   C00697  C00697   Yes Yes0
>  1 hcart3   ACS- No   - 0
>  2 hcart3   ACS- No   - 0
>  3 hcart3   ACS- No   - 0
> media_server_3$
>
> My bp.conf file:
>
> # new config
> FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_1 media_server_2 media_server_3 
> media_server_4 media_server_5 media_server_6 media_server_7 media_server_8
> FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_2 media_server_3 media_server_4 
> media_server_5 media_server_6 media_server_7 media_server_8 media_server_1
> FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_3 media_server_4 media_server_5 
> media_server_6 media_server_7 media_server_8 media_server_1 media_server_2
> FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_4 media_server_5 media_server_6 
> media_server_7 media_server_8 media_server_1 media_server_2 media_server_3
> FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_5 media_server_6 media_server_7 
> media_server_8 media_server_1 media_server_2 media_server_3 media_server_4
> FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_6 media_server_7 media_server_8 
> media_server_1 media_server_2 media_server_3 media_server_4 media_server_5
> FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_7 media_server_8 media_server_1 
> media_server_2 media_server_3 media_server_4 media_server_5 media_server_6
> FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_8 media_server_1 media_server_2 
> media_server_3 media_server_4 media_server_5 media_server_6 media_server_7
>
> # COMMENT:
>
> I used to use FORCE_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVER but the problem with that is
> you can only force it to an alternate media server, I want to make the
> most use of the available capacity in the robot, how can I do this if
> failover restore media server does not work?
>
> Justin.
>
>
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[Veritas-bu] Need help with FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS

2007-09-14 Thread Justin Piszcz
I have a user-initiated restore in a library with > 20 tape drives.
More than 15 of them are free, the one it is trying to use for the
restore is completely utilized (all 4 drives are in use):

09/14/2007 01:21:11 - begin Restore
09/14/2007 01:21:19 - number of images required: 1
09/14/2007 01:21:20 - media needed: C00498
09/14/2007 01:21:57 - restoring from image the_client_hostname_1189167024
09/14/2007 01:21:59 - connecting
09/14/2007 01:22:00 - connected; connect time: 0:00:00
09/14/2007 01:21:59 - requesting resource C00498
09/14/2007 01:22:00 - awaiting resource C00498. Waiting for resources.
   Reason: Drives are in use, Media server: media_server_2,
   Robot Type(Number): ACS(0), Media ID: N/A, Drive Name: N/A,
   Volume Pool: N/A, Storage Unit: N/A, Drive Scan Host: N/A

FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS is NOT WORKING.

If media_server_2 is busy, it should failover to one of the other media servers 
with free drives!

media_server_2$ sudo /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/vmoprcmd -d ds

   DRIVE STATUS

Drv Type   Control  User  Label  RecMID  ExtMID  Ready   Wr.Enbl.  ReqId
   0 hcart3   ACS   Yes   C00202  C00202   Yes Yes0
   1 hcart3   ACS   Yes   C00200  C00200   Yes Yes0
   2 hcart3   ACS   Yes   C02392  C02392   Yes Yes0
   3 hcart3   ACS   Yes   C00197  C00197   Yes Yes0
media_server_2$ logout

media_server_3$ sudo /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/vmoprcmd -d ds

   DRIVE STATUS

Drv Type   Control  User  Label  RecMID  ExtMID  Ready   Wr.Enbl.  ReqId
   0 hcart3   ACS   Yes   C00697  C00697   Yes Yes0
   1 hcart3   ACS- No   - 0
   2 hcart3   ACS- No   - 0
   3 hcart3   ACS- No   - 0
media_server_3$

My bp.conf file:

# new config
FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_1 media_server_2 media_server_3 
media_server_4 media_server_5 media_server_6 media_server_7 media_server_8
FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_2 media_server_3 media_server_4 
media_server_5 media_server_6 media_server_7 media_server_8 media_server_1
FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_3 media_server_4 media_server_5 
media_server_6 media_server_7 media_server_8 media_server_1 media_server_2
FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_4 media_server_5 media_server_6 
media_server_7 media_server_8 media_server_1 media_server_2 media_server_3
FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_5 media_server_6 media_server_7 
media_server_8 media_server_1 media_server_2 media_server_3 media_server_4
FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_6 media_server_7 media_server_8 
media_server_1 media_server_2 media_server_3 media_server_4 media_server_5
FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_7 media_server_8 media_server_1 
media_server_2 media_server_3 media_server_4 media_server_5 media_server_6
FAILOVER_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVERS = media_server_8 media_server_1 media_server_2 
media_server_3 media_server_4 media_server_5 media_server_6 media_server_7

# COMMENT:

I used to use FORCE_RESTORE_MEDIA_SERVER but the problem with that is
you can only force it to an alternate media server, I want to make the
most use of the available capacity in the robot, how can I do this if
failover restore media server does not work?

Justin.

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