Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup on HP-UX 64-bit on Itanium
Could you please expand a little bit on point 3? We've also experienced problems with nbsl (as I described on this mailing list last week), but only with NOM running. What problem did the PEM bundle fix? What was wrong with bpdulicate? (A coworker asked me yesterday evening about Vault periodically taking inordinately longer than it should in one of our environments, even though everything appears to complete correctly, so I'm hoping to get a smoking gun for free here... :^>) -- gabriel rosenkoetter Radian Group Inc, Unix/Linux/VMware Sysadmin / Backup & Recovery [EMAIL PROTECTED], 215 231 1556 -Original Message- From: jpryan99 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:39 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup on HP-UX 64-bit on Itanium We are running Netbackup 6.5 with HP/UX 11.23 on IA64 hardware. We have 3 Master servers and 3 dedicated media servers. To ease use and administration we segregated the environments (1 for Unix (Solaris, HP/UX, AIX, Linux), 1 for Windows (2003,2008, Etc.), and our Dev/Test which comprises a mixture of everything.) We have sucessfully upgraded our Dev/Test environment to 6.52a with several caveats. 1. Don't do this without engaging Symantec. (This will take several hops to get to the right people) 2. Don't do it to your production environment. 3. We needed to get 3 engineering binaries to make it useable. (NBSL, PEM bundle #2, and bpduplicate binary. (I can go into the gory details as a sidebar if needed) 4. We also needed to replace versioninfo because it kept core dumping. This was a long painful process to get it right, but we are very happy with the 6.52a environment we have now. We have done a lot of testing and we are confident we can roll this out to the Unix and Windows production environments without incident. As far as the hardware/OS portion of the equation...it's solid John Ryan Systems Engineer Publix Super Markets, Inc. +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Netbackup on HP-UX 64-bit on Itanium
We are running Netbackup 6.5 with HP/UX 11.23 on IA64 hardware. We have 3 Master servers and 3 dedicated media servers. To ease use and administration we segregated the environments (1 for Unix (Solaris, HP/UX, AIX, Linux), 1 for Windows (2003,2008, Etc.), and our Dev/Test which comprises a mixture of everything.) We have sucessfully upgraded our Dev/Test environment to 6.52a with several caveats. 1. Don't do this without engaging Symantec. (This will take several hops to get to the right people) 2. Don't do it to your production environment. 3. We needed to get 3 engineering binaries to make it useable. (NBSL, PEM bundle #2, and bpduplicate binary. (I can go into the gory details as a sidebar if needed) 4. We also needed to replace versioninfo because it kept core dumping. This was a long painful process to get it right, but we are very happy with the 6.52a environment we have now. We have done a lot of testing and we are confident we can roll this out to the Unix and Windows production environments without incident. As far as the hardware/OS portion of the equation...it's solid John Ryan Systems Engineer Publix Super Markets, Inc. +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup on HP-UX 64-bit on Itanium
> I am curious if there is anyone out there running on HP Itanium > for Netbackup Master server. If so, can you answer a few questions. Sure. We recently added a NetBackup environment on 11.31 and ia64 (smaller than our pre-existing ones, which are 11.23 on PA-RISC). The former is still 6.5GA, the latter are 6.5.2 (we needed the Exchange 2007 support, primarily). > Any issues or gotchas running on this OS? I haven't found any distinct from running NetBackup under HP-UX ordinarily. I no longer recall whether something had to be done to take advantage of the new pseudo-device infrastructure or if I was just concerned about that, but since the tape drives in use there are still /dev/rmt/cXtYdZBESTnb, I guess not. > Netbackup stable on this OS? Yes, it appears so. > How is tech support knowledge? Can't really say: I haven't had cause to call Symantec about anything related to the OS. > Any features that are not supported on Itanium that you were looking > for? Nope. You've read the compatibility list, are you fishing for one that you found there? > Did you move from PA-RISC to Itanium? No, and I think that if I were to do that, I would have Vault create a catalog tape with DR information, install the new system clean, and then restore that catalog tape over the clean install. (I have done that at a SunGard site with 6.5, and it works like a dream.) That may be a bit complicated by going from 6.0mp5 to 6.5, but upgrading the system you're migrating from to 6.5.3 first (but never actually letting clients write through it) shouldn't take very long and would obviously be a Good Idea. > If so, did you see any performance improvements due to 64 bit? Impossible to tell: we're using STK 9940s in L700s and L180s the pre-existing environments and LTO-3s in an HP MSL4048 in the new one. I certainly don't have performance complaints, but we're not really asking very much of that environment at the moment. All that said, in moving off the existing masters in other environments (and off the 7410s they use), we're seriously considering moving to Linux masters, either on Proliant 58xs or in C-class blades. -- gabriel rosenkoetter Radian Group Inc, Unix/Linux/VMware Sysadmin / Backup & Recovery [EMAIL PROTECTED], 215 231 1556 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:33 PM To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup on HP-UX 64-bit on Itanium We are currently running our Master and Media Servers (6.0mp5) on HP-UX 32-bit on PA-RISC. We are condering moving the Master server to 64-bit HPUX on Itanium (6.5.3 when GA). I am curious if there is anyone out there running on HP Itanium for Netbackup Master server. If so, can you answer a few questions. Any issues or gotchas running on this OS? Netbackup stable on this OS? How is tech support knowledge? Any features that are not supported on Itanium that you were looking for? Did you move from PA-RISC to Itanium? If so, did you see any performance improvements due to 64 bit? Any feedback or insight you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ! Mark Jessup - IS Manager IT Strategy and Architecture Northwestern Mutual (414) 661-3968 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information of Northwestern Mutual. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify Northwestern Mutual immediately by returning it to the sender and delete all copies from your system. Please be advised that communications received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center are secure. Communications that are not received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center may not be secure and could be observed by a third party. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup on HP-UX 64-bit on Itanium
Thanks Jeff for the clarification. Yes, PA-RISC as an OS is 64-bit and has been there for awhile, it is NB that runs as a 32-bit app on PA-RISC which is our issue. So hitting the memory limits of a 32-bit app has been problematic in our environment. We have verified the compatibility matrix so it does run on Itanium. I am just trying to find out if anyone is doing it out there and if so, how is it going. -Original Message- From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:52 AM To: JESSUP, MARK; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup on HP-UX 64-bit on Itanium There's a bit of a flaw in your question as it implies PA-RISC wasn't 64 bit. However as of PA-RISC 2.0 introduced back when they were still making K class servers it was a 64 bit CPU. With HP-UX 11.0 you still had the option to install the OS as 32 bit or 64 bit. As of HP-UX 11.11 (11i v1) you had to install it 64 bit. Running a 64 bit OS on PA-RISC did not require the applications (NetBackup, Oracle etc...) to be 64 bit - they could still be 32 bit but if run that way had the same memory limitations as if run on a 32 bit OS. HP introduced Memory Windows as a way around some of those limitations (good for DBs like Sybase that were still only 32 bit at the time). For whatever reason NetBackup runs only 32 bit on PA-RISC 2.x systems. Itanium as I understand it only runs 64 bit applications. HP won't ship any new PA-RISC based systems after the end of this year. They'll continue to sell parts for PA-RISC based systems through end of next year. If you plan to continue on HP-UX you'll definitely have to go to Itanium at some point. Having said all that we are still doing PA-RISC 2.x as our master so would be interested to hear if anyone is running Itanium based HP-UX for a master. We only have one Itanium system at the moment and it is only a client. Have you checked the compatibility matrix to be sure HP-UX on Itanium is supported as a master? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:36 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup on HP-UX 64-bit on Itanium We are currently running our Master and Media Servers (6.0mp5) on HP-UX 32-bit on PA-RISC. We are condering moving the Master server to 64-bit HPUX on Itanium (6.5.3 when GA). I am curious if there is anyone out there running on HP Itanium for Netbackup Master server. If so, can you answer a few questions. Any issues or gotchas running on this OS? Netbackup stable on this OS? How is tech support knowledge? Any features that are not supported on Itanium that you were looking for? Did you move from PA-RISC to Itanium? If so, did you see any performance improvements due to 64 bit? Any feedback or insight you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ! Mark Jessup - IS Manager IT Strategy and Architecture Northwestern Mutual (414) 661-3968 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information of Northwestern Mutual. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify Northwestern Mutual immediately by returning it to the sender and delete all copies from your system. Please be advised that communications received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center are secure. Communications that are not received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center may not be secure and could be observed by a third party. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information of Northwestern Mutual. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify Northwestern Mutual immediately by returning it to the sender and delete all copies from your system. Please be advised that communications received via the Northwestern Mutual
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup on HP-UX 64-bit on Itanium
There's a bit of a flaw in your question as it implies PA-RISC wasn't 64 bit. However as of PA-RISC 2.0 introduced back when they were still making K class servers it was a 64 bit CPU. With HP-UX 11.0 you still had the option to install the OS as 32 bit or 64 bit. As of HP-UX 11.11 (11i v1) you had to install it 64 bit. Running a 64 bit OS on PA-RISC did not require the applications (NetBackup, Oracle etc...) to be 64 bit - they could still be 32 bit but if run that way had the same memory limitations as if run on a 32 bit OS. HP introduced Memory Windows as a way around some of those limitations (good for DBs like Sybase that were still only 32 bit at the time). For whatever reason NetBackup runs only 32 bit on PA-RISC 2.x systems. Itanium as I understand it only runs 64 bit applications. HP won't ship any new PA-RISC based systems after the end of this year. They'll continue to sell parts for PA-RISC based systems through end of next year. If you plan to continue on HP-UX you'll definitely have to go to Itanium at some point. Having said all that we are still doing PA-RISC 2.x as our master so would be interested to hear if anyone is running Itanium based HP-UX for a master. We only have one Itanium system at the moment and it is only a client. Have you checked the compatibility matrix to be sure HP-UX on Itanium is supported as a master? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:36 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup on HP-UX 64-bit on Itanium We are currently running our Master and Media Servers (6.0mp5) on HP-UX 32-bit on PA-RISC. We are condering moving the Master server to 64-bit HPUX on Itanium (6.5.3 when GA). I am curious if there is anyone out there running on HP Itanium for Netbackup Master server. If so, can you answer a few questions. Any issues or gotchas running on this OS? Netbackup stable on this OS? How is tech support knowledge? Any features that are not supported on Itanium that you were looking for? Did you move from PA-RISC to Itanium? If so, did you see any performance improvements due to 64 bit? Any feedback or insight you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ! Mark Jessup - IS Manager IT Strategy and Architecture Northwestern Mutual (414) 661-3968 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information of Northwestern Mutual. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify Northwestern Mutual immediately by returning it to the sender and delete all copies from your system. Please be advised that communications received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center are secure. Communications that are not received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center may not be secure and could be observed by a third party. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Netbackup on HP-UX 64-bit on Itanium
We are currently running our Master and Media Servers (6.0mp5) on HP-UX 32-bit on PA-RISC. We are condering moving the Master server to 64-bit HPUX on Itanium (6.5.3 when GA). I am curious if there is anyone out there running on HP Itanium for Netbackup Master server. If so, can you answer a few questions. Any issues or gotchas running on this OS? Netbackup stable on this OS? How is tech support knowledge? Any features that are not supported on Itanium that you were looking for? Did you move from PA-RISC to Itanium? If so, did you see any performance improvements due to 64 bit? Any feedback or insight you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ! Mark Jessup - IS Manager IT Strategy and Architecture Northwestern Mutual (414) 661-3968 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information of Northwestern Mutual. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify Northwestern Mutual immediately by returning it to the sender and delete all copies from your system. Please be advised that communications received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center are secure. Communications that are not received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center may not be secure and could be observed by a third party. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Netbackup on HP-UX 64-bit on Itanium
We are currently running our Master and Media Servers (6.0mp5) on HP-UX 32-bit on PA-RISC. We are condering moving the Master server to 64-bit HPUX on Itanium (6.5.3 when GA). I am curious if there is anyone out there running on HP Itanium for Netbackup Master server. If so, can you answer a few questions. Any issues or gotchas running on this OS? Netbackup stable on this OS? How is tech support knowledge? Any features that are not supported on Itanium that you were looking for? Did you move from PA-RISC to Itanium? If so, did you see any performance improvements due to 64 bit? Any feedback or insight you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ! Mark Jessup - IS Manager IT Strategy and Architecture Northwestern Mutual (414) 661-3968 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information of Northwestern Mutual. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify Northwestern Mutual immediately by returning it to the sender and delete all copies from your system. Please be advised that communications received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center are secure. Communications that are not received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center may not be secure and could be observed by a third party. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
