Re: [Veritas-bu] SLP with Synthetic backups - What are people doing for workarounds?

2012-02-22 Thread Gregory Demilde
Hi,

Basically, What I have been told by Symantec is that the full synthetic
process was not aware of the SLP and therefore the image was re-created it
was without the SLP information. The good workaround was to use vault
duplication. Indeed that should be now fixed in one of the 7.1 releases. A
year ago I think it was planned to be fixed in the 7.1.0.3 release. A
simple workaround is to basically use vault duplication.

Because in 6.5.x there were some flaws in the SLP process especially when
you stop and started the services, an image could get the status
SLP_COMPLETED without any copies being made, I prefered to script the
duplication process instead using vault so I could include the images that
have been left out by the SLP. I think in 7.X Symantec corrected some
issues.

The big drawback of SLP, is the queued jobs. If you do not set up
duplication job size correctly, you might set up an important load on the
master. Besides, depending on the size of you environment you might need to
tune up NBRB. There are some SLP tuning recommendations on Symantec
website. But yeah SLP queued jobs are a pain.

I do not know if it is still the case but on 6.5.x stopping netbackup
master services could trigger SLP proces to be in disaster recovery mode
when starting up the services. Basically, this mode forces Netbackup to
check every image on the source STU before doing any SLP duplication. This
can take a while ( for us 36 hours ) if you use big disks for backups.

Greg

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:23 AM, David Stanaway da...@stanaway.net wrote:


 I am happy to report this was seemingly silently fixed in 7.1 (At least
 in 7.1.0.3), the only oddity is that each backup job seems to spawn it's
 own SLP duplication job, so you will see hundreds of SLP duplication
 jobs queued.

 Now can anyone say if SLP and GRT backups are going to work correctly in
 7.1 ?

 On 3/16/2010 8:02 AM, David Stanaway wrote:
  I'm getting very frustrated about having to re-invent the wheel to
  reproduce the functionality of Storage Lifecycle Policies for my
  Synthetic Full backups.
 
  For those not aware, Synthetic backup images for some dumb reason that
  hasn't been explained to me cannot be managed by an SLP and you will get
  dataloss if you backup to an SLP and expect it to execute the policy.
  The backup will go to the Backup destination, but that is it. No
  duplications.
 
  I am working on some scripts to re-produce the functionality of SLP
  since Vault is not adequate as I have hierarchical duplications that are
  not possible with a vault job. It is going to take a little time to get
  right, and I can't help but think this must have been done before.
 
 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] SLP with Synthetic backups - What are people doing for workarounds?

2012-02-21 Thread kevin . sheen
I'm not trying to hijack the thread.  If I should start my own, I will.

We are a recent customer of Symantec and use both netbackup and their 5020 
appliances.  We
have implmented 2 domains and are attempting to use an SLP and AIR to 
replicate images from one
Netbackup domain to the other.

We see the backups run and following that, the duplication run and 
complete as well. 

Our question is, should we see another job on the remote storage system 
perform the import.  If
we shouldn't see it in the activity monitor, is there a way (via the 
command line) that we can tell if the 
entire process is finished?

Thanks, Kevin

veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu wrote on 02/20/2012 10:23:06 PM:

 From: David Stanaway da...@stanaway.net
 To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU, 
 Date: 02/20/2012 10:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] SLP with Synthetic backups - What are 
 people doing for workarounds?
 Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 
 
 I am happy to report this was seemingly silently fixed in 7.1 (At least 
 in 7.1.0.3), the only oddity is that each backup job seems to spawn it's 

 own SLP duplication job, so you will see hundreds of SLP duplication 
 jobs queued.
 
 Now can anyone say if SLP and GRT backups are going to work correctly in 

 7.1 ?
 
 On 3/16/2010 8:02 AM, David Stanaway wrote:
  I'm getting very frustrated about having to re-invent the wheel to
  reproduce the functionality of Storage Lifecycle Policies for my
  Synthetic Full backups.
 
  For those not aware, Synthetic backup images for some dumb reason that
  hasn't been explained to me cannot be managed by an SLP and you will 
get
  dataloss if you backup to an SLP and expect it to execute the policy.
  The backup will go to the Backup destination, but that is it. No
  duplications.
 
  I am working on some scripts to re-produce the functionality of SLP
  since Vault is not adequate as I have hierarchical duplications that 
are
  not possible with a vault job. It is going to take a little time to 
get
  right, and I can't help but think this must have been done before.
 
 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] SLP with Synthetic backups - What are people doing for workarounds?

2012-02-20 Thread David Stanaway

I am happy to report this was seemingly silently fixed in 7.1 (At least 
in 7.1.0.3), the only oddity is that each backup job seems to spawn it's 
own SLP duplication job, so you will see hundreds of SLP duplication 
jobs queued.

Now can anyone say if SLP and GRT backups are going to work correctly in 
7.1 ?

On 3/16/2010 8:02 AM, David Stanaway wrote:
 I'm getting very frustrated about having to re-invent the wheel to
 reproduce the functionality of Storage Lifecycle Policies for my
 Synthetic Full backups.

 For those not aware, Synthetic backup images for some dumb reason that
 hasn't been explained to me cannot be managed by an SLP and you will get
 dataloss if you backup to an SLP and expect it to execute the policy.
 The backup will go to the Backup destination, but that is it. No
 duplications.

 I am working on some scripts to re-produce the functionality of SLP
 since Vault is not adequate as I have hierarchical duplications that are
 not possible with a vault job. It is going to take a little time to get
 right, and I can't help but think this must have been done before.



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[Veritas-bu] SLP with Synthetic backups - What are people doing for workarounds?

2010-03-16 Thread David Stanaway
I'm getting very frustrated about having to re-invent the wheel to
reproduce the functionality of Storage Lifecycle Policies for my
Synthetic Full backups.

For those not aware, Synthetic backup images for some dumb reason that
hasn't been explained to me cannot be managed by an SLP and you will get
dataloss if you backup to an SLP and expect it to execute the policy.
The backup will go to the Backup destination, but that is it. No
duplications.

I am working on some scripts to re-produce the functionality of SLP
since Vault is not adequate as I have hierarchical duplications that are
not possible with a vault job. It is going to take a little time to get
right, and I can't help but think this must have been done before.


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