[Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.
Had a few questions. 1. How do you handle it? 2. You can send tapes off-site to Iron Mountain, degauss them before you send them off-site, that is one option. 3. How much are the machines that securely and physically destroy the tape media? 4. If they're physically destroyed, how do you deal with the tape shards, how do you dispose of the material? How do others on this list deal with bad tapes (with thousands of errors etc) how do you properly dispose of them? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.
I the past when I have had to get rid of a bunch of old media. I did some net searching and found a company that specifically dealt with this as well as equipment recycling. They agreed a price for the amount of tapes that I had; collected them and then they were confidentially destroyed. I believe they were put in a furnace. We were then issued with a certificate of destruction as proof. This avoided any messing around with degaussing, erasing etc. James Justin Piszcz wrote: Had a few questions. 1. How do you handle it? 2. You can send tapes off-site to Iron Mountain, degauss them before you send them off-site, that is one option. 3. How much are the machines that securely and physically destroy the tape media? 4. If they're physically destroyed, how do you deal with the tape shards, how do you dispose of the material? How do others on this list deal with bad tapes (with thousands of errors etc) how do you properly dispose of them? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- Systems Administrator Backups Storage Team Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute Wellcome Trust Genome Campus Hinxton, Cambridge. CB10 1SA -- The Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute is operated by Genome Research Limited, a charity registered in England with number 1021457 and a company registered in England with number 2742969, whose registered office is 215 Euston Road, London, NW1 2BE. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.comwrote: 1. How do you handle it? 2. You can send tapes off-site to Iron Mountain, degauss them before you send them off-site, that is one option. Iron Mountain also offers a tape destruction service. For a fee, of course. 3. How much are the machines that securely and physically destroy the tape media? 4. If they're physically destroyed, how do you deal with the tape shards, how do you dispose of the material? That's why we pay a fee to have it done. So we don't have to deal with the garbage. We have never to worry about degausing tapes because for starters, we encrypt all of them. Even if they sit on a pallet here waiting for enough tapes to be sent out for destruction, we're still okay. That's one of the many advantages with an encrypt ALL of the tapes policy. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.
You might want to degauss even before sending out to such a company. At least one poster on this list noted how he had gotten used tapes that were supposedly wiped but on checking he found other people's data. As for us we degauss any bad tapes after images have expired in NBU. We don't destroy until then on the off chance we'll need to send to someone like Pivar to try to extract what can be extracted. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of James Osbourn Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:55 AM To: Justin Piszcz Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions. I the past when I have had to get rid of a bunch of old media. I did some net searching and found a company that specifically dealt with this as well as equipment recycling. They agreed a price for the amount of tapes that I had; collected them and then they were confidentially destroyed. I believe they were put in a furnace. We were then issued with a certificate of destruction as proof. This avoided any messing around with degaussing, erasing etc. James Justin Piszcz wrote: Had a few questions. 1. How do you handle it? 2. You can send tapes off-site to Iron Mountain, degauss them before you send them off-site, that is one option. 3. How much are the machines that securely and physically destroy the tape media? 4. If they're physically destroyed, how do you deal with the tape shards, how do you dispose of the material? How do others on this list deal with bad tapes (with thousands of errors etc) how do you properly dispose of them? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- Systems Administrator Backups Storage Team Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute Wellcome Trust Genome Campus Hinxton, Cambridge. CB10 1SA -- The Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute is operated by Genome Research Limited, a charity registered in England with number 1021457 and a company registered in England with number 2742969, whose registered office is 215 Euston Road, London, NW1 2BE. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.
I use a company to do it. Was Media Recovery - Now known as dataSPAN. 1) They will degauss onsite before the tapes leave your building 2) They may buy the tapes from you after that (they clean and sell them as used - because they are degaussed before they leave your site they are good to go) 3) They will also physically destroy them and take care of the disposal of the leftovers in proper environmentally fashion. 4) You can get a certificate that says you had so many tapes or cd's destroyed for audit compliance. I have used them for years. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Justin Piszcz Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:43 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions. Had a few questions. 1. How do you handle it? 2. You can send tapes off-site to Iron Mountain, degauss them before you send them off-site, that is one option. 3. How much are the machines that securely and physically destroy the tape media? 4. If they're physically destroyed, how do you deal with the tape shards, how do you dispose of the material? How do others on this list deal with bad tapes (with thousands of errors etc) how do you properly dispose of them? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.
The government requires that tapes be smelt but I don't know what they are supposed to smell like :-) Bob Stump Fidelity National Information Services -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:50 AM To: jpis...@lucidpixels.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions. I use a company to do it. Was Media Recovery - Now known as dataSPAN. 1) They will degauss onsite before the tapes leave your building 2) They may buy the tapes from you after that (they clean and sell them as used - because they are degaussed before they leave your site they are good to go) 3) They will also physically destroy them and take care of the disposal of the leftovers in proper environmentally fashion. 4) You can get a certificate that says you had so many tapes or cd's destroyed for audit compliance. I have used them for years. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Justin Piszcz Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:43 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions. Had a few questions. 1. How do you handle it? 2. You can send tapes off-site to Iron Mountain, degauss them before you send them off-site, that is one option. 3. How much are the machines that securely and physically destroy the tape media? 4. If they're physically destroyed, how do you deal with the tape shards, how do you dispose of the material? How do others on this list deal with bad tapes (with thousands of errors etc) how do you properly dispose of them? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.
I wondered what they did with the leftovers. I just never got into the details. Was told they were deposed of in the proper way. I have seen the claw thing that breaks/shreds/crushes the tapes into small bits. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Stump, Bob A Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:49 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions. The government requires that tapes be smelt but I don't know what they are supposed to smell like :-) Bob Stump Fidelity National Information Services -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:50 AM To: jpis...@lucidpixels.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions. I use a company to do it. Was Media Recovery - Now known as dataSPAN. 1) They will degauss onsite before the tapes leave your building 2) They may buy the tapes from you after that (they clean and sell them as used - because they are degaussed before they leave your site they are good to go) 3) They will also physically destroy them and take care of the disposal of the leftovers in proper environmentally fashion. 4) You can get a certificate that says you had so many tapes or cd's destroyed for audit compliance. I have used them for years. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Justin Piszcz Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:43 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions. Had a few questions. 1. How do you handle it? 2. You can send tapes off-site to Iron Mountain, degauss them before you send them off-site, that is one option. 3. How much are the machines that securely and physically destroy the tape media? 4. If they're physically destroyed, how do you deal with the tape shards, how do you dispose of the material? How do others on this list deal with bad tapes (with thousands of errors etc) how do you properly dispose of them? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape media destruction questions.
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Stump, Bob A bob.a.st...@fnis.com wrote: The government requires that tapes be smelt Sounds fishy to me :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smelt .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
