Re: [Veritas-bu] Uncofigured server group (Any) when trying to change storage unit for policy - RESOLVED

2011-07-15 Thread Lightner, Jeff
As a follow up on this issue:

I later found that changing anything in the GUI would give the error before 
doing the below command line change so it really had nothing to do with the 
storage unit.

Also today I realized the SQL 2000 backups were not running properly although 
they were exiting with status 0.Investigation into that revealed that 
running the below command line also caused the policy type to change from 
MS-Sql-Server to Standard.   Since the backup specification was for Windows bch 
files what it was doing was just backing up those bch files rather than running 
the bch files to backup the database.On changing type back to MS-Sql-Server 
they began running properly.

I believe this was all a holdover for an earlier issue last year.   At that 
time my co-worker had attempted to manually edit the policies en masse in 
/usr/openv/netbackup/db/class.   When he did that it caused us various issues 
including converting policy types to Standard.   We had fixed most of that at 
the time.   I think these SQL backups didn't get converted then for some 
unknown reason but did get put in an odd state where one couldn't change via 
the GUI as we discovered this week.   When I ran the command line below I think 
it fixed the policy and set it to use the desired storage unit but then 
triggered the same policy type change we'd seen last year..

Moral of the story:
Do NOT manually edit /usr/openv/netbackup/db/class stuff in NBU 6.5.4 or 
greater (probably NBU 6.0 or greater) because it stores a checksum.   Use the 
GUI or NBU command line tools.

P.S.   One thing you CAN do with stuff in class is copy an entire policy 
subdirectory from one master to another - the checksum is still valid.   We did 
that when moving most of our policies from NBU 6.5.4 to NBU 7.1 on another host 
and saw no issues doing it.


From: Lightner, Jeff
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:20 AM
To: 'nbuser'
Cc: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Uncofigured server group (Any) when trying to change 
storage unit for policy

Thanks - The command line worked:   "bpplinfo Sql-WaterCom-New -set -residence 
atubks01_atldd03"
On checking the policy after running that it has the master's storage unit at 
intended.   I'm still wondering why the GUI complained though.

On your other questions:
I'm not sure what a "refresh" would do - I pulled up the console and attempted 
to make the change so it should already have been "fresh" at the time I 
attempted it.

Doing through the Java GUI prior to trying the above command line resulted in 
the following:   Since I put the exact text of the error message in my original 
email I'm not sure what the screen shot will tell you.




From: nbuser [mailto:nbu...@live.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:05 AM
To: Lightner, Jeff
Cc: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Uncofigured server group (Any) when trying to change 
storage unit for policy

did you refresh the policies in the console and tried. You can also change the 
storage unit from command line by "bpplinfo policyname -set -residence stuname" 
also if you can please paste the screenshot of the error that would be really 
helpful
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Lightner, Jeff 
mailto:jlight...@water.com>> wrote:
NBU 6.5.4 HP-UX Unix master,  Windows 2000 client with SQL 2000 DB

Currently we are running a backup for the above environment using a separate 
Windows media server so have defined the storage unit as the one on that media 
server.   This is the only backup on that media server (and master) and we want 
to free up the media server and have the backup handled by the master (which is 
also a media server).

On trying to modify the policy to change the storage unit from the one 
appropriate for the Windows media server to the one appropriate to the master 
(which are both the same physical dedupe appliance) we get the following error 
window popup:

An error occurred while changing policy ''Sql-WaterCom', status:144
Unconfigured server group (Any) for -sg options specified

I found nothing at all on this error when searching for it.   Status 144 is a 
generic invalid options error so there is no detail on it.   The "Any" it is 
showing above so far as I can tell is the reference to the greyed out "Media 
Owner" area of the Policy attributes.  I also get the same errors on other 
Windows non-sql backups on trying to move them.  However, if I move one of my 
HP-UX jobs to the windows storage unit that works and it then lets me move it 
back without the error.   If I create a new policy with the same parameters as 
the original Windows 2000 SQL 2000 policy it lets me select the HP-UX storage 
unit.

Has anyone seen this and have any ideas as to how to re

Re: [Veritas-bu] Uncofigured server group (Any) when trying to change storage unit for policy

2011-07-13 Thread nbuser
 Good to know that your problem has been resolved. Whenever we open the java
console all policies are locally cached on the system where java console is
installed and whenever you make changes, java console doesn't refresh
automatically. We need to do it manually so that updated policies can be
locally cached.

Why command line worked because you did the changes directly on the master
server...:)


> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
>
>> 
>>
>> Thanks - The command line worked:   “bpplinfo Sql-WaterCom-New -set
>> -residence atubks01_atldd03“
>>
>> On checking the policy after running that it has the master’s storage unit
>> at intended.   I’m still wondering why the GUI complained though.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On your other questions:
>>
>> I’m not sure what a “refresh” would do - I pulled up the console and
>> attempted to make the change so it should already have been “fresh” at the
>> time I attempted it.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Doing through the Java GUI prior to trying the above command line resulted
>> in the following:   Since I put the exact text of the error message in my
>> original email I’m not sure what the screen shot will tell you.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> 
>>
>> ** **
>>  --
>>
>> *From:* nbuser [mailto:nbu...@live.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:05 AM
>> *To:* Lightner, Jeff
>> *Cc:* VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU
>> *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] Uncofigured server group (Any) when trying to
>> change storage unit for policy
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> did you refresh the policies in the console and tried. You can also change
>> the storage unit from command line by "bpplinfo policyname -set -residence
>> stuname" also if you can please paste the screenshot of the error that would
>> be really helpful
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Lightner, Jeff 
>> wrote:
>>
>> NBU 6.5.4 HP-UX Unix master,  Windows 2000 client with SQL 2000 DB
>>
>>  
>>
>> Currently we are running a backup for the above environment using a
>> separate Windows media server so have defined the storage unit as the one on
>> that media server.   This is the only backup on that media server (and
>> master) and we want to free up the media server and have the backup handled
>> by the master (which is also a media server).   
>>
>>  
>>
>> On trying to modify the policy to change the storage unit from the one
>> appropriate for the Windows media server to the one appropriate to the
>> master (which are both the same physical dedupe appliance) we get the
>> following error window popup:
>>
>>  
>>
>> An error occurred while changing policy ‘’Sql-WaterCom’, status:144
>>
>> Unconfigured server group (Any) for –sg options specified
>>
>>  
>>
>> I found nothing at all on this error when searching for it.   Status 144
>> is a generic invalid options error so there is no detail on it.   The “Any”
>> it is showing above so far as I can tell is the reference to the greyed out
>> “Media Owner” area of the Policy attributes.  I also get the same errors on
>> other Windows non-sql backups on trying to move them.  However, if I move
>> one of my HP-UX jobs to the windows storage unit that works and it then lets
>> me move it back without the error.   If I create a new policy with the same
>> parameters as the original Windows 2000 SQL 2000 policy it lets me select
>> the HP-UX storage unit. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Has anyone seen this and have any ideas as to how to resolve other than
>> recreating the policies from scratch?   (Copying doesn’t work – the copy has
>> the same issue as the original.)
>>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Uncofigured server group (Any) when trying to change storage unit for policy

2011-07-13 Thread nbuser
did you refresh the policies in the console and tried. You can also change
the storage unit from command line by "bpplinfo policyname -set -residence
stuname" also if you can please paste the screenshot of the error that would
be really helpful

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Lightner, Jeff  wrote:

> **
>
>  NBU 6.5.4 HP-UX Unix master,  Windows 2000 client with SQL 2000 DB
>
> ** **
>
> Currently we are running a backup for the above environment using a
> separate Windows media server so have defined the storage unit as the one on
> that media server.   This is the only backup on that media server (and
> master) and we want to free up the media server and have the backup handled
> by the master (which is also a media server).   
>
> ** **
>
> On trying to modify the policy to change the storage unit from the one
> appropriate for the Windows media server to the one appropriate to the
> master (which are both the same physical dedupe appliance) we get the
> following error window popup:
>
> ** **
>
> An error occurred while changing policy ‘’Sql-WaterCom’, status:144
>
> Unconfigured server group (Any) for –sg options specified
>
> ** **
>
> I found nothing at all on this error when searching for it.   Status 144 is
> a generic invalid options error so there is no detail on it.   The “Any” it
> is showing above so far as I can tell is the reference to the greyed out
> “Media Owner” area of the Policy attributes.  I also get the same errors on
> other Windows non-sql backups on trying to move them.  However, if I move
> one of my HP-UX jobs to the windows storage unit that works and it then lets
> me move it back without the error.   If I create a new policy with the same
> parameters as the original Windows 2000 SQL 2000 policy it lets me select
> the HP-UX storage unit. 
>
> ** **
>
> Has anyone seen this and have any ideas as to how to resolve other than
> recreating the policies from scratch?   (Copying doesn’t work – the copy has
> the same issue as the original.)
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
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> Inc *| 5660 New Northside Drive, Ste 250 | ***
> *Atlanta**, **GA** **30328* *
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> jlight...@water.com
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[Veritas-bu] Uncofigured server group (Any) when trying to change storage unit for policy

2011-07-13 Thread Lightner, Jeff
NBU 6.5.4 HP-UX Unix master,  Windows 2000 client with SQL 2000 DB

Currently we are running a backup for the above environment using a separate 
Windows media server so have defined the storage unit as the one on that media 
server.   This is the only backup on that media server (and master) and we want 
to free up the media server and have the backup handled by the master (which is 
also a media server).

On trying to modify the policy to change the storage unit from the one 
appropriate for the Windows media server to the one appropriate to the master 
(which are both the same physical dedupe appliance) we get the following error 
window popup:

An error occurred while changing policy ‘’Sql-WaterCom’, status:144
Unconfigured server group (Any) for –sg options specified

I found nothing at all on this error when searching for it.   Status 144 is a 
generic invalid options error so there is no detail on it.   The “Any” it is 
showing above so far as I can tell is the reference to the greyed out “Media 
Owner” area of the Policy attributes.  I also get the same errors on other 
Windows non-sql backups on trying to move them.  However, if I move one of my 
HP-UX jobs to the windows storage unit that works and it then lets me move it 
back without the error.   If I create a new policy with the same parameters as 
the original Windows 2000 SQL 2000 policy it lets me select the HP-UX storage 
unit.

Has anyone seen this and have any ideas as to how to resolve other than 
recreating the policies from scratch?   (Copying doesn’t work – the copy has 
the same issue as the original.)








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