Re: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape

2008-04-16 Thread Kevin Whittaker
Also, since you are on 6.5 look at lifecycle policies. 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 1:15 AM
To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape

Without paying extra, you can actually have the copy created as the
backup is being made.  Just configure multiple copies in the policy.
That, of course, requires twice as many tape drives.

If you don't want to do that, and don't want to pay extra, you're in
command-line land.  Learn how bpduplicate works.  It will actually
automatically figure out what hasn't been copied and copy it.

If you are willing to pay for an extra-price product, Vault is very good
and will automate everything and give you a bunch of options.

---
W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

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 Subject: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape
 
 Hi Dears,
 
 Does NetBackup 6.5 able to clone a tape automatically after completing

 a backup as EMC NetWorker did?.
 
 As EMC NetWorker we can configure in the Group properties by clicking 
 the clone box option. Clone will run automatically when Group is 
 completed.
 
 In NetBackup 6.5, how to do it?
 Please kindly share your experience.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Moehatdee
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Re: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape

2008-04-16 Thread Jeff Lightner
Just to clarify on what Curtis wrote.  Vault costs extra but is a
Symantec/Veritas product intended to be used with NBU.

As he noted you can do it yourself with a script using the bpduplicate
command if you don't want to pay for Vault to automate things.

For our large Production DB we do an inline tape copy which as he also
notes means it uses twice as many drives.

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To: Curtis Preston; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape

Also, since you are on 6.5 look at lifecycle policies. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis
Preston
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 1:15 AM
To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape

Without paying extra, you can actually have the copy created as the
backup is being made.  Just configure multiple copies in the policy.
That, of course, requires twice as many tape drives.

If you don't want to do that, and don't want to pay extra, you're in
command-line land.  Learn how bpduplicate works.  It will actually
automatically figure out what hasn't been copied and copy it.

If you are willing to pay for an extra-price product, Vault is very good
and will automate everything and give you a bunch of options.

---
W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of moehatdee
 Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:52 PM
 To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape
 
 Hi Dears,
 
 Does NetBackup 6.5 able to clone a tape automatically after completing

 a backup as EMC NetWorker did?.
 
 As EMC NetWorker we can configure in the Group properties by clicking 
 the clone box option. Clone will run automatically when Group is 
 completed.
 
 In NetBackup 6.5, how to do it?
 Please kindly share your experience.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Moehatdee
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Re: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape

2008-04-16 Thread Mark.Donaldson
I thought vault was in the base licensing of NB Enterprise these days.
No?

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Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:34 AM
To: Kevin Whittaker; Curtis Preston; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape

Just to clarify on what Curtis wrote.  Vault costs extra but is a
Symantec/Veritas product intended to be used with NBU.

As he noted you can do it yourself with a script using the bpduplicate
command if you don't want to pay for Vault to automate things.

For our large Production DB we do an inline tape copy which as he also
notes means it uses twice as many drives.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Whittaker
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:47 AM
To: Curtis Preston; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape

Also, since you are on 6.5 look at lifecycle policies. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis
Preston
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 1:15 AM
To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape

Without paying extra, you can actually have the copy created as the
backup is being made.  Just configure multiple copies in the policy.
That, of course, requires twice as many tape drives.

If you don't want to do that, and don't want to pay extra, you're in
command-line land.  Learn how bpduplicate works.  It will actually
automatically figure out what hasn't been copied and copy it.

If you are willing to pay for an extra-price product, Vault is very good
and will automate everything and give you a bunch of options.

---
W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of moehatdee
 Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:52 PM
 To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape
 
 Hi Dears,
 
 Does NetBackup 6.5 able to clone a tape automatically after completing

 a backup as EMC NetWorker did?.
 
 As EMC NetWorker we can configure in the Group properties by clicking 
 the clone box option. Clone will run automatically when Group is 
 completed.
 
 In NetBackup 6.5, how to do it?
 Please kindly share your experience.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Moehatdee
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Re: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape

2008-04-16 Thread Kevin Whittaker
HAHAHAHA. H Nope 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape

I thought vault was in the base licensing of NB Enterprise these days.
No?

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Lightner
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:34 AM
To: Kevin Whittaker; Curtis Preston; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape

Just to clarify on what Curtis wrote.  Vault costs extra but is a
Symantec/Veritas product intended to be used with NBU.

As he noted you can do it yourself with a script using the bpduplicate
command if you don't want to pay for Vault to automate things.

For our large Production DB we do an inline tape copy which as he also
notes means it uses twice as many drives.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Whittaker
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:47 AM
To: Curtis Preston; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape

Also, since you are on 6.5 look at lifecycle policies. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis
Preston
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 1:15 AM
To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape

Without paying extra, you can actually have the copy created as the
backup is being made.  Just configure multiple copies in the policy.
That, of course, requires twice as many tape drives.

If you don't want to do that, and don't want to pay extra, you're in
command-line land.  Learn how bpduplicate works.  It will actually
automatically figure out what hasn't been copied and copy it.

If you are willing to pay for an extra-price product, Vault is very good
and will automate everything and give you a bunch of options.

---
W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

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 Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:52 PM
 To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape
 
 Hi Dears,
 
 Does NetBackup 6.5 able to clone a tape automatically after completing

 a backup as EMC NetWorker did?.
 
 As EMC NetWorker we can configure in the Group properties by clicking 
 the clone box option. Clone will run automatically when Group is 
 completed.
 
 In NetBackup 6.5, how to do it?
 Please kindly share your experience.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Moehatdee
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[Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape

2008-04-15 Thread moehatdee
Hi Dears,

Does NetBackup 6.5 able to clone a tape automatically after completing
a backup as EMC NetWorker did?.

As EMC NetWorker we can configure in the Group properties by clicking
the clone box option. Clone will run automatically when Group is
completed.

In NetBackup 6.5, how to do it?
Please kindly share your experience.


Regards,

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Re: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape

2008-04-15 Thread Curtis Preston
Without paying extra, you can actually have the copy created as the
backup is being made.  Just configure multiple copies in the policy.
That, of course, requires twice as many tape drives.

If you don't want to do that, and don't want to pay extra, you're in
command-line land.  Learn how bpduplicate works.  It will actually
automatically figure out what hasn't been copied and copy it.

If you are willing to pay for an extra-price product, Vault is very good
and will automate everything and give you a bunch of options.

---
W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

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 Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:52 PM
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 Subject: [Veritas-bu] clone or duplicate tape
 
 Hi Dears,
 
 Does NetBackup 6.5 able to clone a tape automatically after completing
 a backup as EMC NetWorker did?.
 
 As EMC NetWorker we can configure in the Group properties by clicking
 the clone box option. Clone will run automatically when Group is
 completed.
 
 In NetBackup 6.5, how to do it?
 Please kindly share your experience.
 
 
 Regards,
 
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