Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem getting file server backed up. code 84

2006-01-07 Thread len boyle
The 64k limit is an old one and was based on older drivers/windows. With the 
newer drivers and windows this number can be quite a bit larger. Check your 
readme's for the drivers/hba.


len
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Hello Frank

if you windows box is writing to the tape drives, make sure that block 
size

is 64k (65536) or less.

Regards
Michael

On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:10:56 -0600, Wooten, FH Frank (3934) @ IS wrote













Ok, I am having a huge problem getting a 400gb file server backed up. My

master server is a unix and the file server is win2k3. I have a ESL9000
attached to a san switch that the file server is attached too. Problem 
with
the job is it will run for 4 to 5 hours and then fail with a code 84 
(media
write error). I have eliminated the tapes being the problem cause I have 
used
new tapes and still get this error. I am wondering if its something with 
the

switch or if it's the drives. It happens on multiple drives not just one.








Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is driving me nutts.















Thanks









Frank


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RE: [Veritas-bu] Problem getting file server backed up. code 84

2006-01-06 Thread WEAVER, Simon
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Frank
Not
knowing Unix much, are there any other errors being logged for other
clients?
In the
Global Settings (Host Properties), have you tried to set the Master server
properties to increase the schedule backup attempts to a few more
tries?

Thanks
Simon
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  84
  
  
  
  Ok, I am having a
  huge problem getting a 400gb file server backed up.
  My master server is a unix
  and the file server is win2k3. I have a ESL9000
  attached to a san switch that the file server is attached too. Problem with
  the job is it will run for 4 to 5 hours and then fail with a code 84 (media
  write error). I have eliminated the tapes being the problem cause I have used new tapes and still get this error. I am
  wondering if its something with the switch or if it's
  the drives. It happens on multiple drives not just one.
  
  
  Any help would be
  greatly appreciated. This is driving me nutts.
  
  
  
  Thanks
  
  Frank

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem getting file server backed up. code 84

2006-01-06 Thread Ed Wilts
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 08:10:56AM -0600, Wooten, FH Frank (3934) @ IS wrote:
 Ok, I am having a huge problem getting a 400gb file server backed up. My
 master server is a unix and the file server is win2k3. I have a ESL9000
 attached to a san switch that the file server is attached too. Problem with
 the job is it will run for 4 to 5 hours and then fail with a code 84 (media
 write error). I have eliminated the tapes being the problem cause I have
 used new tapes and still get this error. I am wondering if its something
 with the switch or if it's the drives. It happens on multiple drives not
 just one. 
  
 Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is driving me nutts. 

I've seen at least 3 different classification of 84 errors:

1.  Bad tape or tape drive.  You've eliminated this.
2.  A full disk staging unit.  You're not using DSSUs.
3.  Connectivity issues between media server and tape drive.  This is where
the fun happens...  Check your switch ports for errors on the ports.  I
had this happen when I had my ISLs set for 2Gbps and found out later
that the fibre wasn't capable of being driven at 2Gbps for that
distance.  I dropped my ISL speed to 1Gbps and it's working fine (still
out of spec and giving me buffer credit issues but error-free from the
backup point of view).  My fibre is actually being replaced now.

Have a good look at your SAN switch logs and the host error logs.  When
I had my issue, I was logging scsi errors on the hosts (even though the
drives are on the other end of a fibre/scsi bridge).

.../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem getting file server backed up. code 84

2006-01-06 Thread ida3248b
Hello Frank

if you windows box is writing to the tape drives, make sure that block size 
is 64k (65536) or less.

Regards
Michael

On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:10:56 -0600, Wooten, FH Frank (3934) @ IS wrote


 



 

 Ok, I am having a huge problem getting a 400gb file server backed up. My 
master server is a unix and the file server is win2k3. I have a ESL9000 
attached to a san switch that the file server is attached too. Problem with 
the job is it will run for 4 to 5 hours and then fail with a code 84 (media 
write error). I have eliminated the tapes being the problem cause I have used 
new tapes and still get this error. I am wondering if its something with the 
switch or if it's the drives. It happens on multiple drives not just one.



 

 Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is driving me nutts.



 



 

 Thanks



 

 Frank

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Problem getting file server backed up. code 84

2006-01-06 Thread Dhotre, Shekhar
Title: UNIX RAW PARTITION RESTORE QUESTION





I have seen this before when backing up up file/print 
server 1.2TB + data . The windows and some other servers with 
terabyte plus data have been configured as a SAN media servers . SAN media 
servers gives these servers direct access to DISK staging unit / Library ,so 
they don`t send data over network . We have dedicated GIG network for backups 
which always helps.You may want to consider putting your file server 
over GIG network and configure it as a SAN media server. 

Are you on 5.1 MP4 ? I guess not 
...


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getting file server backed up. code 84




Ok, I am having a 
huge problem getting a 400gb file server backed up. My 
master server is a unix and 
the file server is win2k3. I have a ESL9000 attached to 
a san switch that the file server is attached too. Problem with the job is it 
will run for 4 to 5 hours and then fail with a code 84 (media write error). I 
have eliminated the tapes being the problem cause I 
have used new tapes and still get this error. I am wondering if its something with the switch or if it's the drives. It 
happens on multiple drives not just one. 

Any help would be 
greatly appreciated. This is driving me nutts. 



Thanks

Frank




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RE: [Veritas-bu] Problem getting file server backed up. code 84

2006-01-06 Thread Dhotre, Shekhar
Title: UNIX RAW PARTITION RESTORE QUESTION





Also check the technote below . IBM CE replaced 
rives but we use to get same error. check your indexing on the drives and 
drive configuration just to make sure that they are in correct order 
..

http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/272802.htm

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Frank (3934) @ ISSent: Friday, January 06, 2006 9:11 AMTo: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Problem 
getting file server backed up. code 84




Ok, I am having a 
huge problem getting a 400gb file server backed up. My 
master server is a unix and 
the file server is win2k3. I have a ESL9000 attached to 
a san switch that the file server is attached too. Problem with the job is it 
will run for 4 to 5 hours and then fail with a code 84 (media write error). I 
have eliminated the tapes being the problem cause I 
have used new tapes and still get this error. I am wondering if its something with the switch or if it's the drives. It 
happens on multiple drives not just one. 

Any help would be 
greatly appreciated. This is driving me nutts. 



Thanks

Frank




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RE: [Veritas-bu] Problem getting file server backed up. code 84

2006-01-06 Thread Mark . Donaldson
A correction for the third condition is adding a larger value
CLIENT_READ_TIMEOUT value to your bp.conf on your client.  It'll make the
media server more tolerant to slow conditions on the client.  I find it
especially valuable on my large database servers.

I ahve a value of 10800 seconds per client as a matter of course now:

CLIENT_READ_TIMEOUT = 10800

HTH -M

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Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem getting file server backed up. code 84


On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 08:10:56AM -0600, Wooten, FH Frank (3934) @ IS
wrote:
 Ok, I am having a huge problem getting a 400gb file server backed up. My
 master server is a unix and the file server is win2k3. I have a ESL9000
 attached to a san switch that the file server is attached too. Problem
with
 the job is it will run for 4 to 5 hours and then fail with a code 84
(media
 write error). I have eliminated the tapes being the problem cause I have
 used new tapes and still get this error. I am wondering if its something
 with the switch or if it's the drives. It happens on multiple drives not
 just one. 
  
 Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is driving me nutts. 

I've seen at least 3 different classification of 84 errors:

1.  Bad tape or tape drive.  You've eliminated this.
2.  A full disk staging unit.  You're not using DSSUs.
3.  Connectivity issues between media server and tape drive.  This is where
the fun happens...  Check your switch ports for errors on the ports.  I
had this happen when I had my ISLs set for 2Gbps and found out later
that the fibre wasn't capable of being driven at 2Gbps for that
distance.  I dropped my ISL speed to 1Gbps and it's working fine (still
out of spec and giving me buffer credit issues but error-free from the
backup point of view).  My fibre is actually being replaced now.

Have a good look at your SAN switch logs and the host error logs.  When
I had my issue, I was logging scsi errors on the hosts (even though the
drives are on the other end of a fibre/scsi bridge).

.../Ed

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Problem getting file server backed up. code 84

2006-01-06 Thread Dhotre, Shekhar
that's good suggestion . I have it set to 7200. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/openv/netbackupcat bp.conf 
SERVER = master  
SERVER = media1  
SERVER = usatl01lq207
#SERVER = media1_nbu 
#SERVER = master_nbu 
CLIENT_NAME = master 
KEEP_VAULT_SESSIONS_DAYS = 10
CLIENT_CONNECT_TIMEOUT = 1800
CLIENT_READ_TIMEOUT = 7200   
BPSTART_TIMEOUT = 1800   
BPEND_TIMEOUT = 1800 
DISALLOW_CLIENT_RESTORE = NO 
SERVER_CONNECT_TIMEOUT = 60  
#REQUIRED_INTERFACE = master_nbu 
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = DBR  
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = TAR  
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = CPIO 
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = ANSI 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/openv/netbackup


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A correction for the third condition is adding a larger value
CLIENT_READ_TIMEOUT value to your bp.conf on your client.  It'll make
the media server more tolerant to slow conditions on the client.  I find
it especially valuable on my large database servers.

I ahve a value of 10800 seconds per client as a matter of course now:

CLIENT_READ_TIMEOUT = 10800

HTH -M

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To: Wooten, FH Frank (3934) @ IS
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem getting file server backed up. code 84


On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 08:10:56AM -0600, Wooten, FH Frank (3934) @ IS
wrote:
 Ok, I am having a huge problem getting a 400gb file server backed up. 
 My master server is a unix and the file server is win2k3. I have a 
 ESL9000 attached to a san switch that the file server is attached too.

 Problem
with
 the job is it will run for 4 to 5 hours and then fail with a code 84
(media
 write error). I have eliminated the tapes being the problem cause I 
 have used new tapes and still get this error. I am wondering if its 
 something with the switch or if it's the drives. It happens on 
 multiple drives not just one.
  
 Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is driving me nutts. 

I've seen at least 3 different classification of 84 errors:

1.  Bad tape or tape drive.  You've eliminated this.
2.  A full disk staging unit.  You're not using DSSUs.
3.  Connectivity issues between media server and tape drive.  This is
where the fun happens...  Check your switch ports for errors on the
ports.  I had this happen when I had my ISLs set for 2Gbps and found out
later that the fibre wasn't capable of being driven at 2Gbps for that
distance.  I dropped my ISL speed to 1Gbps and it's working fine (still
out of spec and giving me buffer credit issues but error-free from the
backup point of view).  My fibre is actually being replaced now.

Have a good look at your SAN switch logs and the host error logs.  When
I had my issue, I was logging scsi errors on the hosts (even though the
drives are on the other end of a fibre/scsi bridge).

.../Ed

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Problem getting file server backed up. code 84

2006-01-06 Thread Eric Ljungblad
Possibly?  Check the tape device drivers, ensure that the correct and current 
tape device drivers are installed. Veritas also supplies a set 
Of good drivers on there installation CD's under additional products.
Block size is also very important for Windows - 64k as mentioned in previous 
Reply should be the Max.

Eric Ljungblad

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Hello Frank

if you windows box is writing to the tape drives, make sure that block size 
is 64k (65536) or less.

Regards
Michael

On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:10:56 -0600, Wooten, FH Frank (3934) @ IS wrote


 



 

 Ok, I am having a huge problem getting a 400gb file server backed up. My 
master server is a unix and the file server is win2k3. I have a ESL9000 
attached to a san switch that the file server is attached too. Problem with 
the job is it will run for 4 to 5 hours and then fail with a code 84 (media 
write error). I have eliminated the tapes being the problem cause I have used 
new tapes and still get this error. I am wondering if its something with the 
switch or if it's the drives. It happens on multiple drives not just one.



 

 Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is driving me nutts.



 



 

 Thanks



 

 Frank

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