Re: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Piszcz, Justin wrote: > I realize that, but I was wondering how it stored the lists in the > database by default, as it is not a plain text OR flat file anymore. > > -Original Message- > From: Greenberg, Katherine A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 9:06 AM > To: Piszcz, Justin; Ed Wilts; List Veritas List > Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? > > You can compress the images catalog in the same manner that you could in > previous versions. > > Is that what you're asking? > > ~Kate > > -Original Message- > From: Piszcz, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 8:22 AM > To: Greenberg, Katherine A; Ed Wilts; List Veritas List > Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? > > > Does NBU 6 use compression on the databases (vs. flat files) - I have a > box with 50,000,000+ files, the flatfiles are huge. Anyone know? > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greenberg, > Katherine A > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:04 AM > To: Ed Wilts; List Veritas List > Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? > > From everything I've heard/read, the memory requirements are higher, but > not sure about CPU. Since all of the Media Manager stuff is running on > the Master and all the db info for the device and media side of things > will be housed only on the master in a Sybase DB, the new req's are > based on that. Obviously it requires more system resources to run a real > relational database as opposed to the old NBU flat file method. > > ~Kate > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 3:57 PM > To: List Veritas List > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? > > > I've heard that NetBackup 6 takes a fair bit more memory than 5. Has > anyone seen any Veritas documentation that supports this? How about CPU > requirements? > > Thanks, > .../Ed I don't think it's been a flat file since 5.x, in 4.5 I think you could have either. Thanks Peter DrakeUnderkoffler -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDfeYsl+lekZRM55oRAu9NAJ97pJEcmvu8cYprNktECJJFR7OuAQCbBaKJ uoKmpUM2TMDKQqhwEXgSKMA= =IsA+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6?
Whoops - missed this reply before sending my last one out. The update is very easy, but don't forget to run "nbpushdata -add" on the master afterwards, else your EMM will be empty and you'll have no storage units or media. Cheers James Greenberg, Katherine A wrote: The Media Manager stuff is the only part that has changed. From how everything was explained to me... They pulled everything onto the Master, so the issues with SSO and vmd, etc. will go away because there will be one host assigning drives and allocating media for the entire environment, as opposed to each media server running it's own database. The communication between Master and Media servers will also be nowhere near as chatty, since the only time communication will happen is the sending of meta-data for backups and the assignation of backup drive and media allocation to the media server. The netbackup database (/usr/openv/netbackup/db/*) will not change at all from it's current format (binary for the .f files and flat for the image info files). The media manager database (/usr/openv/volmgr/database/*) will become Sybase. Has anyone done this upgrade yet? How easy/painful is it? ~Kate -Original Message- From: Piszcz, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 9:07 AM To: Greenberg, Katherine A; Ed Wilts; List Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? I realize that, but I was wondering how it stored the lists in the database by default, as it is not a plain text OR flat file anymore. -Original Message- From: Greenberg, Katherine A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 9:06 AM To: Piszcz, Justin; Ed Wilts; List Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? You can compress the images catalog in the same manner that you could in previous versions. Is that what you're asking? ~Kate -Original Message- From: Piszcz, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 8:22 AM To: Greenberg, Katherine A; Ed Wilts; List Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? Does NBU 6 use compression on the databases (vs. flat files) - I have a box with 50,000,000+ files, the flatfiles are huge. Anyone know? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greenberg, Katherine A Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:04 AM To: Ed Wilts; List Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? From everything I've heard/read, the memory requirements are higher, but not sure about CPU. Since all of the Media Manager stuff is running on the Master and all the db info for the device and media side of things will be housed only on the master in a Sybase DB, the new req's are based on that. Obviously it requires more system resources to run a real relational database as opposed to the old NBU flat file method. ~Kate -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 3:57 PM To: List Veritas List Subject: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? I've heard that NetBackup 6 takes a fair bit more memory than 5. Has anyone seen any Veritas documentation that supports this? How about CPU requirements? Thanks, .../Ed -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6?
The images database is still as it was in 4.5/5.x. It's just the EMM which is a relational DB, and this holds media manager type stuff. So your catalog will still be flat binary files. I think ASCII catalogs have been totally deprecated now but I could be wrong. Cheers James Piszcz, Justin wrote: I realize that, but I was wondering how it stored the lists in the database by default, as it is not a plain text OR flat file anymore. -Original Message- From: Greenberg, Katherine A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 9:06 AM To: Piszcz, Justin; Ed Wilts; List Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? You can compress the images catalog in the same manner that you could in previous versions. Is that what you're asking? ~Kate -Original Message- From: Piszcz, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 8:22 AM To: Greenberg, Katherine A; Ed Wilts; List Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? Does NBU 6 use compression on the databases (vs. flat files) - I have a box with 50,000,000+ files, the flatfiles are huge. Anyone know? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greenberg, Katherine A Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:04 AM To: Ed Wilts; List Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? From everything I've heard/read, the memory requirements are higher, but not sure about CPU. Since all of the Media Manager stuff is running on the Master and all the db info for the device and media side of things will be housed only on the master in a Sybase DB, the new req's are based on that. Obviously it requires more system resources to run a real relational database as opposed to the old NBU flat file method. ~Kate -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 3:57 PM To: List Veritas List Subject: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? I've heard that NetBackup 6 takes a fair bit more memory than 5. Has anyone seen any Veritas documentation that supports this? How about CPU requirements? Thanks, .../Ed -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6?
The Media Manager stuff is the only part that has changed. >From how everything was explained to me... They pulled everything onto the Master, so the issues with SSO and vmd, etc. will go away because there will be one host assigning drives and allocating media for the entire environment, as opposed to each media server running it's own database. The communication between Master and Media servers will also be nowhere near as chatty, since the only time communication will happen is the sending of meta-data for backups and the assignation of backup drive and media allocation to the media server. The netbackup database (/usr/openv/netbackup/db/*) will not change at all from it's current format (binary for the .f files and flat for the image info files). The media manager database (/usr/openv/volmgr/database/*) will become Sybase. Has anyone done this upgrade yet? How easy/painful is it? ~Kate -Original Message- From: Piszcz, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 9:07 AM To: Greenberg, Katherine A; Ed Wilts; List Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? I realize that, but I was wondering how it stored the lists in the database by default, as it is not a plain text OR flat file anymore. -Original Message- From: Greenberg, Katherine A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 9:06 AM To: Piszcz, Justin; Ed Wilts; List Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? You can compress the images catalog in the same manner that you could in previous versions. Is that what you're asking? ~Kate -Original Message- From: Piszcz, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 8:22 AM To: Greenberg, Katherine A; Ed Wilts; List Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? Does NBU 6 use compression on the databases (vs. flat files) - I have a box with 50,000,000+ files, the flatfiles are huge. Anyone know? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greenberg, Katherine A Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:04 AM To: Ed Wilts; List Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? >From everything I've heard/read, the memory requirements are higher, but not sure about CPU. Since all of the Media Manager stuff is running on the Master and all the db info for the device and media side of things will be housed only on the master in a Sybase DB, the new req's are based on that. Obviously it requires more system resources to run a real relational database as opposed to the old NBU flat file method. ~Kate -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 3:57 PM To: List Veritas List Subject: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? I've heard that NetBackup 6 takes a fair bit more memory than 5. Has anyone seen any Veritas documentation that supports this? How about CPU requirements? Thanks, .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6?
You can compress the images catalog in the same manner that you could in previous versions. Is that what you're asking? ~Kate -Original Message- From: Piszcz, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 8:22 AM To: Greenberg, Katherine A; Ed Wilts; List Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? Does NBU 6 use compression on the databases (vs. flat files) - I have a box with 50,000,000+ files, the flatfiles are huge. Anyone know? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greenberg, Katherine A Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:04 AM To: Ed Wilts; List Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? >From everything I've heard/read, the memory requirements are higher, but not sure about CPU. Since all of the Media Manager stuff is running on the Master and all the db info for the device and media side of things will be housed only on the master in a Sybase DB, the new req's are based on that. Obviously it requires more system resources to run a real relational database as opposed to the old NBU flat file method. ~Kate -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 3:57 PM To: List Veritas List Subject: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? I've heard that NetBackup 6 takes a fair bit more memory than 5. Has anyone seen any Veritas documentation that supports this? How about CPU requirements? Thanks, .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6?
I realize that, but I was wondering how it stored the lists in the database by default, as it is not a plain text OR flat file anymore. -Original Message- From: Greenberg, Katherine A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 9:06 AM To: Piszcz, Justin; Ed Wilts; List Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? You can compress the images catalog in the same manner that you could in previous versions. Is that what you're asking? ~Kate -Original Message- From: Piszcz, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 8:22 AM To: Greenberg, Katherine A; Ed Wilts; List Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? Does NBU 6 use compression on the databases (vs. flat files) - I have a box with 50,000,000+ files, the flatfiles are huge. Anyone know? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greenberg, Katherine A Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:04 AM To: Ed Wilts; List Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? >From everything I've heard/read, the memory requirements are higher, but not sure about CPU. Since all of the Media Manager stuff is running on the Master and all the db info for the device and media side of things will be housed only on the master in a Sybase DB, the new req's are based on that. Obviously it requires more system resources to run a real relational database as opposed to the old NBU flat file method. ~Kate -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 3:57 PM To: List Veritas List Subject: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? I've heard that NetBackup 6 takes a fair bit more memory than 5. Has anyone seen any Veritas documentation that supports this? How about CPU requirements? Thanks, .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6?
Does NBU 6 use compression on the databases (vs. flat files) - I have a box with 50,000,000+ files, the flatfiles are huge. Anyone know? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greenberg, Katherine A Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:04 AM To: Ed Wilts; List Veritas List Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? >From everything I've heard/read, the memory requirements are higher, but not sure about CPU. Since all of the Media Manager stuff is running on the Master and all the db info for the device and media side of things will be housed only on the master in a Sybase DB, the new req's are based on that. Obviously it requires more system resources to run a real relational database as opposed to the old NBU flat file method. ~Kate -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 3:57 PM To: List Veritas List Subject: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? I've heard that NetBackup 6 takes a fair bit more memory than 5. Has anyone seen any Veritas documentation that supports this? How about CPU requirements? Thanks, .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
RE: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6?
>From everything I've heard/read, the memory requirements are higher, but not sure about CPU. Since all of the Media Manager stuff is running on the Master and all the db info for the device and media side of things will be housed only on the master in a Sybase DB, the new req's are based on that. Obviously it requires more system resources to run a real relational database as opposed to the old NBU flat file method. ~Kate -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 3:57 PM To: List Veritas List Subject: [Veritas-bu] Resource requirements for NBU 6? I've heard that NetBackup 6 takes a fair bit more memory than 5. Has anyone seen any Veritas documentation that supports this? How about CPU requirements? Thanks, .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
