RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1

2005-12-20 Thread Tschida, Tom \(C\)\(STP\)
Title: Message



the issue would be not having the catalog complete before 
our off-site providor shows up to swap tapes, which would stretch a previous RPO 
of 24 hours to 48.
 
Tom


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catalog backups with 5.1

depends on your shop.
 
if 
your backups run betwen 20:00 and 06:00, and any vaulting/duplicating is done by 
11:00-12:00, then you've got all afternoon to backup your catalog, providing you 
don't have any restores to do, or backup jobs to respool.
 
basically, anytime your catalog backup is running, 
nothing else is.
 
Paul
 

  
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  5.1  
   Is there any  significant 
  problem associated with increasing the catalog backup time (ie, do we run into 
  any problems if it takes longer to back up)? Regards,Abhishek DhingraStorage and Backup 
  AdministrationCBS IT Operations
  


  
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backups with 5.1Our catalogue is 248 GB.  I upgraded on Thursday. 
   On Friday I noticed the elapsed time for the catalogue was over 9 hours. 
   In looking through the Activity monitor, prior to the upgrade it 
  finished in just under 7 hours for roughly the same size catalogue. 
    I haven't notices a definite pattern for regular 
  backups.   
  Tom 
  
  From: WEAVER, Simon 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 19, 
  2005 9:09 AMTo: Tschida, Tom (C)(STP); 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] slow 
  catalog backups with 5.1Tom How large is the catalogue backup when you view 
  it in Activity Monitor?   I use 5.1 and time 
  wise, it depends on the size of the catalogue mainly.   Are you seeing any other slowness with the backups itself? 
      
  Simon WeaverTechnical 
  SupportWindows Domain Administrator 
  
  EADS AstriumTel: 
  02392-708598 
  Email: 
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  Tschida, Tom (C)(STP) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 
  December 2005 15:04To: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog 
  backups with 5.1We've 
  recently upgraded our environment to 5.1 MP 4, and I've noticed that our 
  catalog backup has slowed by over 30%.  Has anyone seen similar things 
  with 5.1?   
  Thanks,   Tom Tschida Guidant 
  Corp 
  


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RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1

2005-12-20 Thread Paul Keating
Title: Message



depends on your shop.
 
if 
your backups run betwen 20:00 and 06:00, and any vaulting/duplicating is done by 
11:00-12:00, then you've got all afternoon to backup your catalog, providing you 
don't have any restores to do, or backup jobs to respool.
 
basically, anytime your catalog backup is running, 
nothing else is.
 
Paul
 

  
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  SimonSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 
  5.1  
   Is there any  significant 
  problem associated with increasing the catalog backup time (ie, do we run into 
  any problems if it takes longer to back up)? Regards,Abhishek DhingraStorage and Backup 
  AdministrationCBS IT Operations
  


  
  "Tschida, Tom (C)(STP)" 
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                  To:     
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veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu         cc:       
        
  Subject:        RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog 
backups with 5.1Our catalogue is 248 GB.  I upgraded on Thursday. 
   On Friday I noticed the elapsed time for the catalogue was over 9 hours. 
   In looking through the Activity monitor, prior to the upgrade it 
  finished in just under 7 hours for roughly the same size catalogue. 
    I haven't notices a definite pattern for regular 
  backups.   
  Tom 
  
  From: WEAVER, Simon 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 19, 
  2005 9:09 AMTo: Tschida, Tom (C)(STP); 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] slow 
  catalog backups with 5.1Tom How large is the catalogue backup when you view 
  it in Activity Monitor?   I use 5.1 and time 
  wise, it depends on the size of the catalogue mainly.   Are you seeing any other slowness with the backups itself? 
      
  Simon WeaverTechnical 
  SupportWindows Domain Administrator 
  
  EADS AstriumTel: 
  02392-708598 
  Email: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  Tschida, Tom (C)(STP) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 
  December 2005 15:04To: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog 
  backups with 5.1We've 
  recently upgraded our environment to 5.1 MP 4, and I've noticed that our 
  catalog backup has slowed by over 30%.  Has anyone seen similar things 
  with 5.1?   
  Thanks,   Tom Tschida Guidant 
  Corp 
  


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RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1

2005-12-19 Thread abhishek . dhingra

   Is there any  significant problem associated with increasing the catalog backup time (ie, do we run into any problems if it takes longer to back up)?

Regards,
Abhishek Dhingra
Storage and Backup Administration
CBS IT Operations







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Our catalogue is 248 GB.  I upgraded on Thursday.  On Friday I noticed the elapsed time for the catalogue was over 9 hours.  In looking through the Activity monitor, prior to the upgrade it finished in just under 7 hours for roughly the same size catalogue.
 
I haven't notices a definite pattern for regular backups.
 
Tom


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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:09 AM
To: Tschida, Tom (C)(STP); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1

Tom
How large is the catalogue backup when you view it in Activity Monitor?
 
I use 5.1 and time wise, it depends on the size of the catalogue mainly.
 
Are you seeing any other slowness with the backups itself?
 
 
Simon Weaver
Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium
Tel: 02392-708598 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Sent: 19 December 2005 15:04
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1

We've recently upgraded our environment to 5.1 MP 4, and I've noticed that our catalog backup has slowed by over 30%.  Has anyone seen similar things with 5.1?
 
Thanks,
 
Tom Tschida
Guidant Corp


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RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1

2005-12-19 Thread Tschida, Tom \(C\)\(STP\)
Title: Message



Our catalogue is 248 GB.  I upgraded on 
Thursday.  On Friday I noticed the elapsed time for the catalogue was over 
9 hours.  In looking through the Activity monitor, prior to the upgrade it 
finished in just under 7 hours for roughly the same size 
catalogue.
 
I haven't notices a definite pattern for regular 
backups.
 
Tom


From: WEAVER, Simon 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 19, 
2005 9:09 AMTo: Tschida, Tom (C)(STP); 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] slow 
catalog backups with 5.1

Tom
How 
large is the catalogue backup when you view it in Activity 
Monitor?
 
I use 
5.1 and time wise, it depends on the size of the catalogue 
mainly.
 
Are 
you seeing any other slowness with the backups itself?
 
 
Simon 
WeaverTechnical SupportWindows Domain Administrator 
EADS 
AstriumTel: 02392-708598 
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  
  -Original Message-From: Tschida, Tom 
  (C)(STP) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 December 2005 
  15:04To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
  [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1
  We've recently upgraded our environment to 5.1 MP 4, 
  and I've noticed that our catalog backup has slowed by over 30%.  
  Has anyone seen similar things with 5.1?
   
  Thanks,
   
  Tom Tschida
  Guidant Corp

  
  
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RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1

2005-12-19 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



Tom
You 
did not mention the environment you are in, however this may / may not be worth 
a look...
 
http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/273288.htm
 
Also, 
just in case, what if you re-configure the Catalogue again, using the Wizard, 
use a different set of tapes and re-try. A very long shot I know, but it might 
be worth a try, to rule the media out.
 
DB 
sounds quite large - I am guessing you have alot of long retention periods / 
infinite / clients ?
Simon 
WeaverTechnical SupportWindows Domain Administrator 
EADS 
AstriumTel: 02392-708598 
Email: 
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  -Original Message-From: Tschida, Tom 
  (C)(STP) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 December 2005 
  15:47To: WEAVER, Simon; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] slow 
  catalog backups with 5.1
  Our catalogue is 248 GB.  I upgraded on 
  Thursday.  On Friday I noticed the elapsed time for the catalogue was 
  over 9 hours.  In looking through the Activity monitor, prior to the 
  upgrade it finished in just under 7 hours for roughly the same size 
  catalogue.
   
  I haven't notices a definite pattern for regular 
  backups.
   
  Tom
  
  
  From: WEAVER, Simon 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 19, 
  2005 9:09 AMTo: Tschida, Tom (C)(STP); 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] slow 
  catalog backups with 5.1
  
  Tom
  How 
  large is the catalogue backup when you view it in Activity 
  Monitor?
   
  I 
  use 5.1 and time wise, it depends on the size of the catalogue 
  mainly.
   
  Are 
  you seeing any other slowness with the backups itself?
   
   
  Simon 
  WeaverTechnical SupportWindows Domain Administrator 
  EADS 
  AstriumTel: 02392-708598 
  Email: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  

-Original Message-From: Tschida, Tom 
(C)(STP) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 December 2005 
15:04To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
[Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1
We've recently upgraded our environment to 5.1 MP 
4, and I've noticed that our catalog backup has slowed by over 
30%.  Has anyone seen similar things with 5.1?
 
Thanks,
 
Tom Tschida
Guidant Corp
  


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RE: [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1

2005-12-19 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



Tom
How 
large is the catalogue backup when you view it in Activity 
Monitor?
 
I use 
5.1 and time wise, it depends on the size of the catalogue 
mainly.
 
Are 
you seeing any other slowness with the backups itself?
 
 
Simon 
WeaverTechnical SupportWindows Domain Administrator 
EADS 
AstriumTel: 02392-708598 
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  
  -Original Message-From: Tschida, Tom 
  (C)(STP) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 December 2005 
  15:04To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
  [Veritas-bu] slow catalog backups with 5.1
  We've recently upgraded our environment to 5.1 MP 4, 
  and I've noticed that our catalog backup has slowed by over 30%.  
  Has anyone seen similar things with 5.1?
   
  Thanks,
   
  Tom Tschida
  Guidant 
Corp

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