Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC]
Yes, it is required. I am using SSO and ndmp and this option was set on all my NetApp filers in order for SSO to work. --Rajmund -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Preston Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 2:22 PM To: Mike Heck; POUSSARD, Gilles (INFOTEL); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] While I agree with the last poster that it's probably not documented, I do believe it's required. NetApp was required to support scsi reserve/release before this feature would work. I'm guessing from your question that they made this an optional feature on that NetApp. If you don't turn this on, bad things could happen. (although this is just an educated guess.) --- W. Curtis Preston Author of O'Reilly's Backup & Recovery and Using SANs and NAS VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Heck Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 6:12 AM To: POUSSARD, Gilles (INFOTEL); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Gilles, I am not 100% sure of this, I believe "tape.reservations scsi" is required. I would suggest that, since this is an option in the NetApp OS not a NetBackup option, that you check NetApp's support to see if that option is needed for drive sharing. Thank you, Mike Heck Customer Focus Team Symantec -Original Message- From: POUSSARD, Gilles (INFOTEL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 3:44 AM To: Mike Heck; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Thanks, Do we need to setup the NetApp option "tape.reservations scsi" on the NetApp filers or is it not necessary ?? Gilles. -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Mike Heck Envoyé : mercredi 2 mai 2007 19:25 À : veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Objet : [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Justin, The answer to your questions is yes, if you were at 7.1.1 or 7.2.1 or higher of the ONTap OS for all the NetApp filers involved you could do SSO with the Master, Media, and NDMP devices having any number of them sharing the same drives. Thank you, Mike Heck Customer Focus Team Symantec ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This mail has originated outside your organization, either from an external partner or the Global Internet. Keep this in mind if you answer this message. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Conexant E-mail Firewall (Conexant.Com) made the following annotations-** Legal Disclaimer "This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, use or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply email and delete the message. Thank you." ** - ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC]
While I agree with the last poster that it's probably not documented, I do believe it's required. NetApp was required to support scsi reserve/release before this feature would work. I'm guessing from your question that they made this an optional feature on that NetApp. If you don't turn this on, bad things could happen. (although this is just an educated guess.) --- W. Curtis Preston Author of O'Reilly's Backup & Recovery and Using SANs and NAS VP Data Protection GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Heck Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 6:12 AM To: POUSSARD, Gilles (INFOTEL); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Gilles, I am not 100% sure of this, I believe "tape.reservations scsi" is required. I would suggest that, since this is an option in the NetApp OS not a NetBackup option, that you check NetApp's support to see if that option is needed for drive sharing. Thank you, Mike Heck Customer Focus Team Symantec -Original Message- From: POUSSARD, Gilles (INFOTEL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 3:44 AM To: Mike Heck; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Thanks, Do we need to setup the NetApp option "tape.reservations scsi" on the NetApp filers or is it not necessary ?? Gilles. -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Mike Heck Envoyé : mercredi 2 mai 2007 19:25 À : veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Objet : [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Justin, The answer to your questions is yes, if you were at 7.1.1 or 7.2.1 or higher of the ONTap OS for all the NetApp filers involved you could do SSO with the Master, Media, and NDMP devices having any number of them sharing the same drives. Thank you, Mike Heck Customer Focus Team Symantec ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This mail has originated outside your organization, either from an external partner or the Global Internet. Keep this in mind if you answer this message. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC]
Hi Mike, Effectively, there is nowhere this information on Symantec site. If this is a prerequisite, Symantec would have to give this information on a document. For me until now , this is not a prerequisite but I'm not sure, and I don't know if my Netapp's contact know about this. I will ask them and let you know. If somebody knows, welcome... Gilles. -Message d'origine- De : Mike Heck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : jeudi 3 mai 2007 15:12 À : POUSSARD, Gilles (INFOTEL); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Objet : RE: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Gilles, I am not 100% sure of this, I believe "tape.reservations scsi" is required. I would suggest that, since this is an option in the NetApp OS not a NetBackup option, that you check NetApp's support to see if that option is needed for drive sharing. Thank you, Mike Heck Customer Focus Team Symantec -Original Message- From: POUSSARD, Gilles (INFOTEL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 3:44 AM To: Mike Heck; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Thanks, Do we need to setup the NetApp option "tape.reservations scsi" on the NetApp filers or is it not necessary ?? Gilles. -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Mike Heck Envoyé : mercredi 2 mai 2007 19:25 À : veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Objet : [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Justin, The answer to your questions is yes, if you were at 7.1.1 or 7.2.1 or higher of the ONTap OS for all the NetApp filers involved you could do SSO with the Master, Media, and NDMP devices having any number of them sharing the same drives. Thank you, Mike Heck Customer Focus Team Symantec ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This mail has originated outside your organization, either from an external partner or the Global Internet. Keep this in mind if you answer this message. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. This mail has originated outside your organization, either from an external partner or the Global Internet. Keep this in mind if you answer this message. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC]
Gilles, I am not 100% sure of this, I believe "tape.reservations scsi" is required. I would suggest that, since this is an option in the NetApp OS not a NetBackup option, that you check NetApp's support to see if that option is needed for drive sharing. Thank you, Mike Heck Customer Focus Team Symantec -Original Message- From: POUSSARD, Gilles (INFOTEL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 3:44 AM To: Mike Heck; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Thanks, Do we need to setup the NetApp option "tape.reservations scsi" on the NetApp filers or is it not necessary ?? Gilles. -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Mike Heck Envoyé : mercredi 2 mai 2007 19:25 À : veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Objet : [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Justin, The answer to your questions is yes, if you were at 7.1.1 or 7.2.1 or higher of the ONTap OS for all the NetApp filers involved you could do SSO with the Master, Media, and NDMP devices having any number of them sharing the same drives. Thank you, Mike Heck Customer Focus Team Symantec ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This mail has originated outside your organization, either from an external partner or the Global Internet. Keep this in mind if you answer this message. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC]
Thanks, Do we need to setup the NetApp option "tape.reservations scsi" on the NetApp filers or is it not necessary ?? Gilles. -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Mike Heck Envoyé : mercredi 2 mai 2007 19:25 À : veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Objet : [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Justin, The answer to your questions is yes, if you were at 7.1.1 or 7.2.1 or higher of the ONTap OS for all the NetApp filers involved you could do SSO with the Master, Media, and NDMP devices having any number of them sharing the same drives. Thank you, Mike Heck Customer Focus Team Symantec ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This mail has originated outside your organization, either from an external partner or the Global Internet. Keep this in mind if you answer this message. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC]
> I use direct attached tape drives ( through a SAN ) to backup my filers. > I don't use remote NDMP nor 3-way NDMP becaus I don't want to use the network for backup or restore traffics. Which network ? SAN or Ethernet you do not want to use ? If the drives are SAN attached and you are using them right now then you are using network ( SAN ) already anyway. If you are talking about your TCP/IP network then no worries - only the metadata is transmited over TCP/IP or commands and status to be exact. Implementing NDMP will not change your backup traffic flow. 1) Please check previous postings - this was covered just few days back. A memeber of this list, working for Symantec gave a detailed and specific answer to NDMP sharing question. http://www.mail-archive.com/veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu/ is a good WEB archive to use for searches. 2) between the filers ? Using NDMP ? That'd be a 3-way NDMP backup I beleive. NBU master gives goahead to filer1. Filer1 dumps to filer2 attached drives. But note (!) - you'll be sending the backup traffic over the network between 2 filers. Regards This message uses only 100% recycled electrons. "POUSSARD, Gilles \(INFOTEL\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/02/2007 10:26 AM To cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Hello, I use direct attached tape drives ( through a SAN ) to backup my filers . I don't use remote NDMP nor 3-way NDMP becaus I don't want to use the network for backup or restore traffics. I have 2 questions: 1) It seems that for NetApp filers we have the possibility to share "filers direct attached tape drives" with media servers , but the DataOntap version needs to be at least at 7.1.1 version. Because, my filers are only at 7.04P10 version until now, I can't share those direct attached tape drives. Is it exact ?? 2) If I am in 7.1.1 DataOntap version, will I be able to share tape drives between 2 filers ?? Thanks . Gilles. -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Mike Heck Envoyé : mardi 1 mai 2007 17:15 À : veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Objet : Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Jonathan, I hate to contradict you, however the most current support documentation shows that the SUN StoreEdge Filers are not supported for SSO via direct attached drives. The Sun StorEdge NAS Systems are only supported via Remote NDMP, 3-way NDMP and in the case of the 4.20M0 OS direct attached NDMP backups. Nowhere does it list SSO. I have double checked this with the Symantec testing team as well as with Product Management. Symantec is constantly working with Vendors to get products certified, as they are certified the compatibility list is updated. The compatibility lists are your best source of information, as these are constantly updated. The 4.20 version of Sun StorEdge OS currently does not support SSO on Direct attracted drives. If you were provided with information from Symantec that it is supported in this way, please contact me off list with the case number you opened to obtain this information. Thank You Mike Heck Customer Focus Team Symantec Original message thread: I've got confirmation from both SUN and Symantec that The Sun StorEdge 5320 running 4.20 M0 will allow SSO both via Remote NDMP (thru the Media Server) and Direct Attached. I'm still a bit sceptical, because it hasn't worked yet, but I've got a fair amount of confidence that when Sun & Symantec say something works, it will. I'll have it up and running next week and I'll confirm one way or another. -Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:59 PM To: Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Why not ? STK loves NT ... I'm sure it is a Dell box with Enginio controllers ... If you want to use shared ( SSO ) drives - confirm with STK/SUN if the NDMP version it runs supports SCSI Reserve/Release and of course as was mentioned yearlier today, NetBackup have to be version 6. Regards. -- Misha Pavlov Soci?t? G?n?rale desk: (212) 278-6096 cell: (646) 346-9341 This message uses only 100% recycled electrons. "Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/26/2007 03:07 PM To "Mike Heck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 Ok... Just a point of clarification here... I was under the assumption that if I had 4 fiber drives in library shared with 2 media servers via SSO that I could also share one of those drives with an ND
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC]
Quick question, why do you prefix some of your e-mails with [NC] -- is that from a web/news posting, or? On Wed, 2 May 2007, POUSSARD, Gilles (INFOTEL) wrote: Hello, I use direct attached tape drives ( through a SAN ) to backup my filers . I don't use remote NDMP nor 3-way NDMP becaus I don't want to use the network for backup or restore traffics. I have 2 questions: 1) It seems that for NetApp filers we have the possibility to share "filers direct attached tape drives" with media servers , but the DataOntap version needs to be at least at 7.1.1 version. Because, my filers are only at 7.04P10 version until now, I can't share those direct attached tape drives. Is it exact ?? 2) If I am in 7.1.1 DataOntap version, will I be able to share tape drives between 2 filers ?? Thanks . Gilles. -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Mike Heck Envoyé : mardi 1 mai 2007 17:15 À : veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Objet : Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Jonathan, I hate to contradict you, however the most current support documentation shows that the SUN StoreEdge Filers are not supported for SSO via direct attached drives. The Sun StorEdge NAS Systems are only supported via Remote NDMP, 3-way NDMP and in the case of the 4.20M0 OS direct attached NDMP backups. Nowhere does it list SSO. I have double checked this with the Symantec testing team as well as with Product Management. Symantec is constantly working with Vendors to get products certified, as they are certified the compatibility list is updated. The compatibility lists are your best source of information, as these are constantly updated. The 4.20 version of Sun StorEdge OS currently does not support SSO on Direct attracted drives. If you were provided with information from Symantec that it is supported in this way, please contact me off list with the case number you opened to obtain this information. Thank You Mike Heck Customer Focus Team Symantec Original message thread: I've got confirmation from both SUN and Symantec that The Sun StorEdge 5320 running 4.20 M0 will allow SSO both via Remote NDMP (thru the Media Server) and Direct Attached. I'm still a bit sceptical, because it hasn't worked yet, but I've got a fair amount of confidence that when Sun & Symantec say something works, it will. I'll have it up and running next week and I'll confirm one way or another. -Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:59 PM To: Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Why not ? STK loves NT ... I'm sure it is a Dell box with Enginio controllers ... If you want to use shared ( SSO ) drives - confirm with STK/SUN if the NDMP version it runs supports SCSI Reserve/Release and of course as was mentioned yearlier today, NetBackup have to be version 6. Regards. -- Misha Pavlov Soci?t? G?n?rale desk: (212) 278-6096 cell: (646) 346-9341 This message uses only 100% recycled electrons. "Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/26/2007 03:07 PM To "Mike Heck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 Ok... Just a point of clarification here... I was under the assumption that if I had 4 fiber drives in library shared with 2 media servers via SSO that I could also share one of those drives with an NDMP NAS, namely a Sun StorEdge 5320. Is this not the case? Just to clarify, when it comes NDMP backup time I want the Sun StorEdge to allocate one of the SSO drives and write its data to it while sending metadata to one of the media servers. Is that not gonna happen? -Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Heck Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:56 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 Rongsheng, NDPM and SSO works very similar to normal SSO with NetBackup. What I would do is configure the Windows and UNIX hosts to share the drives first, then configure access to the NDMP Host (Celerra NAS), then finally modify the drives to include the NDMP path to the drives. You can then set up an NDMP storage Unit, and start backing up. However I feel the need to advise you that not all versions of all filers are compatible with SSO, this is mainly due the way reserve and release are handled in some versions of some manufacturers Filer OS. Please check the support.veritas.com web site, compatibility list for NDMP to verify that your Filers OS is compatible. Thank you, Mike Heck ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Verit
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC]
Hello, I use direct attached tape drives ( through a SAN ) to backup my filers . I don't use remote NDMP nor 3-way NDMP becaus I don't want to use the network for backup or restore traffics. I have 2 questions: 1) It seems that for NetApp filers we have the possibility to share "filers direct attached tape drives" with media servers , but the DataOntap version needs to be at least at 7.1.1 version. Because, my filers are only at 7.04P10 version until now, I can't share those direct attached tape drives. Is it exact ?? 2) If I am in 7.1.1 DataOntap version, will I be able to share tape drives between 2 filers ?? Thanks . Gilles. -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Mike Heck Envoyé : mardi 1 mai 2007 17:15 À : veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Objet : Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Jonathan, I hate to contradict you, however the most current support documentation shows that the SUN StoreEdge Filers are not supported for SSO via direct attached drives. The Sun StorEdge NAS Systems are only supported via Remote NDMP, 3-way NDMP and in the case of the 4.20M0 OS direct attached NDMP backups. Nowhere does it list SSO. I have double checked this with the Symantec testing team as well as with Product Management. Symantec is constantly working with Vendors to get products certified, as they are certified the compatibility list is updated. The compatibility lists are your best source of information, as these are constantly updated. The 4.20 version of Sun StorEdge OS currently does not support SSO on Direct attracted drives. If you were provided with information from Symantec that it is supported in this way, please contact me off list with the case number you opened to obtain this information. Thank You Mike Heck Customer Focus Team Symantec Original message thread: I've got confirmation from both SUN and Symantec that The Sun StorEdge 5320 running 4.20 M0 will allow SSO both via Remote NDMP (thru the Media Server) and Direct Attached. I'm still a bit sceptical, because it hasn't worked yet, but I've got a fair amount of confidence that when Sun & Symantec say something works, it will. I'll have it up and running next week and I'll confirm one way or another. -Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:59 PM To: Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Why not ? STK loves NT ... I'm sure it is a Dell box with Enginio controllers ... If you want to use shared ( SSO ) drives - confirm with STK/SUN if the NDMP version it runs supports SCSI Reserve/Release and of course as was mentioned yearlier today, NetBackup have to be version 6. Regards. -- Misha Pavlov Soci?t? G?n?rale desk: (212) 278-6096 cell: (646) 346-9341 This message uses only 100% recycled electrons. "Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/26/2007 03:07 PM To "Mike Heck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 Ok... Just a point of clarification here... I was under the assumption that if I had 4 fiber drives in library shared with 2 media servers via SSO that I could also share one of those drives with an NDMP NAS, namely a Sun StorEdge 5320. Is this not the case? Just to clarify, when it comes NDMP backup time I want the Sun StorEdge to allocate one of the SSO drives and write its data to it while sending metadata to one of the media servers. Is that not gonna happen? -Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Heck Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:56 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 Rongsheng, NDPM and SSO works very similar to normal SSO with NetBackup. What I would do is configure the Windows and UNIX hosts to share the drives first, then configure access to the NDMP Host (Celerra NAS), then finally modify the drives to include the NDMP path to the drives. You can then set up an NDMP storage Unit, and start backing up. However I feel the need to advise you that not all versions of all filers are compatible with SSO, this is mainly due the way reserve and release are handled in some versions of some manufacturers Filer OS. Please check the support.veritas.com web site, compatibility list for NDMP to verify that your Filers OS is compatible. Thank you, Mike Heck ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This mail has originated outside
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC]
Jonathan, I hate to contradict you, however the most current support documentation shows that the SUN StoreEdge Filers are not supported for SSO via direct attached drives. The Sun StorEdge NAS Systems are only supported via Remote NDMP, 3-way NDMP and in the case of the 4.20M0 OS direct attached NDMP backups. Nowhere does it list SSO. I have double checked this with the Symantec testing team as well as with Product Management. Symantec is constantly working with Vendors to get products certified, as they are certified the compatibility list is updated. The compatibility lists are your best source of information, as these are constantly updated. The 4.20 version of Sun StorEdge OS currently does not support SSO on Direct attracted drives. If you were provided with information from Symantec that it is supported in this way, please contact me off list with the case number you opened to obtain this information. Thank You Mike Heck Customer Focus Team Symantec Original message thread: I've got confirmation from both SUN and Symantec that The Sun StorEdge 5320 running 4.20 M0 will allow SSO both via Remote NDMP (thru the Media Server) and Direct Attached. I'm still a bit sceptical, because it hasn't worked yet, but I've got a fair amount of confidence that when Sun & Symantec say something works, it will. I'll have it up and running next week and I'll confirm one way or another. -Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:59 PM To: Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Why not ? STK loves NT ... I'm sure it is a Dell box with Enginio controllers ... If you want to use shared ( SSO ) drives - confirm with STK/SUN if the NDMP version it runs supports SCSI Reserve/Release and of course as was mentioned yearlier today, NetBackup have to be version 6. Regards. -- Misha Pavlov Soci?t? G?n?rale desk: (212) 278-6096 cell: (646) 346-9341 This message uses only 100% recycled electrons. "Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/26/2007 03:07 PM To "Mike Heck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 Ok... Just a point of clarification here... I was under the assumption that if I had 4 fiber drives in library shared with 2 media servers via SSO that I could also share one of those drives with an NDMP NAS, namely a Sun StorEdge 5320. Is this not the case? Just to clarify, when it comes NDMP backup time I want the Sun StorEdge to allocate one of the SSO drives and write its data to it while sending metadata to one of the media servers. Is that not gonna happen? -Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Heck Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:56 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 Rongsheng, NDPM and SSO works very similar to normal SSO with NetBackup. What I would do is configure the Windows and UNIX hosts to share the drives first, then configure access to the NDMP Host (Celerra NAS), then finally modify the drives to include the NDMP path to the drives. You can then set up an NDMP storage Unit, and start backing up. However I feel the need to advise you that not all versions of all filers are compatible with SSO, this is mainly due the way reserve and release are handled in some versions of some manufacturers Filer OS. Please check the support.veritas.com web site, compatibility list for NDMP to verify that your Filers OS is compatible. Thank you, Mike Heck ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC]
I've got confirmation from both SUN and Symantec that The Sun StorEdge 5320 running 4.20 M0 will allow SSO both via Remote NDMP (thru the Media Server) and Direct Attached. I'm still a bit sceptical, because it hasn't worked yet, but I've got a fair amount of confidence that when Sun & Symantec say something works, it will. I'll have it up and running next week and I'll confirm one way or another. -Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:59 PM To: Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC] Why not ? STK loves NT ... I'm sure it is a Dell box with Enginio controllers ... If you want to use shared ( SSO ) drives - confirm with STK/SUN if the NDMP version it runs supports SCSI Reserve/Release and of course as was mentioned yearlier today, NetBackup have to be version 6. Regards. -- Misha Pavlov Société Générale desk: (212) 278-6096 cell: (646) 346-9341 This message uses only 100% recycled electrons. "Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/26/2007 03:07 PM To "Mike Heck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 Ok... Just a point of clarification here... I was under the assumption that if I had 4 fiber drives in library shared with 2 media servers via SSO that I could also share one of those drives with an NDMP NAS, namely a Sun StorEdge 5320. Is this not the case? Just to clarify, when it comes NDMP backup time I want the Sun StorEdge to allocate one of the SSO drives and write its data to it while sending metadata to one of the media servers. Is that not gonna happen? -Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Heck Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:56 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 Rongsheng, NDPM and SSO works very similar to normal SSO with NetBackup. What I would do is configure the Windows and UNIX hosts to share the drives first, then configure access to the NDMP Host (Celerra NAS), then finally modify the drives to include the NDMP path to the drives. You can then set up an NDMP storage Unit, and start backing up. However I feel the need to advise you that not all versions of all filers are compatible with SSO, this is mainly due the way reserve and release are handled in some versions of some manufacturers Filer OS. Please check the support.veritas.com web site, compatibility list for NDMP to verify that your Filers OS is compatible. Thank you, Mike Heck ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu * This message and any attachments (the "message") are confidential and intended solely for the addressees. Any unauthorised use or dissemination is prohibited. E-mails are susceptible to alteration. Neither SOCIETE GENERALE nor any of its subsidiaries or affiliates shall be liable for the message if altered, changed or falsified. * ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC]
Why not ? STK loves NT ... I'm sure it is a Dell box with Enginio controllers ... If you want to use shared ( SSO ) drives - confirm with STK/SUN if the NDMP version it runs supports SCSI Reserve/Release and of course as was mentioned yearlier today, NetBackup have to be version 6. Regards. -- Misha Pavlov Société Générale desk: (212) 278-6096 cell: (646) 346-9341 This message uses only 100% recycled electrons. "Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/26/2007 03:07 PM To "Mike Heck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 Ok... Just a point of clarification here... I was under the assumption that if I had 4 fiber drives in library shared with 2 media servers via SSO that I could also share one of those drives with an NDMP NAS, namely a Sun StorEdge 5320. Is this not the case? Just to clarify, when it comes NDMP backup time I want the Sun StorEdge to allocate one of the SSO drives and write its data to it while sending metadata to one of the media servers. Is that not gonna happen? -Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Heck Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:56 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 Rongsheng, NDPM and SSO works very similar to normal SSO with NetBackup. What I would do is configure the Windows and UNIX hosts to share the drives first, then configure access to the NDMP Host (Celerra NAS), then finally modify the drives to include the NDMP path to the drives. You can then set up an NDMP storage Unit, and start backing up. However I feel the need to advise you that not all versions of all filers are compatible with SSO, this is mainly due the way reserve and release are handled in some versions of some manufacturers Filer OS. Please check the support.veritas.com web site, compatibility list for NDMP to verify that your Filers OS is compatible. Thank you, Mike Heck ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu * This message and any attachments (the "message") are confidential and intended solely for the addressees. Any unauthorised use or dissemination is prohibited. E-mails are susceptible to alteration. Neither SOCIETE GENERALE nor any of its subsidiaries or affiliates shall be liable for the message if altered, changed or falsified. * ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 [NC]
Rongsheng, I can't give yo much details on NDMP SSO configuration option as this is new in 6.0 and I am still on 5.1 I do not think there is much difference though - when doing tpconfig to create a device on media server, you'd just add "-share yes" option. For what it's worth, here are some generic NDMP ramblings I can share with you. You'll need the NetBackup for NDMP option installed with the license and mostlikely the same on EMC sides. If drives already zoned and Celera can see them - you practically all set jsut few configuration commands to run :-) Celera see the drive and start dumping to it when it's told to. Media and master servers get the devices ( tpconfig ) and STU configured ( bpstu[list|add|rep|del] ) with drives connected to NDMP host ( ndmphost:nrst#a in my NetApp case ). Master, media , robot control ( could be all on the same machine ) servers will do the scheduling and the media management ( pick, mount, unmount, etc. ) NBU will give a goahead to Celera to do the SCSI Reserve/Release and to start dumping to the specified NDMP drive[s]. Would be nice if you could post the summary if you'll decide to go with this. Regards Rongsheng Fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/26/2007 10:41 AM To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] NDMP and SSO in NetBackup 6.0 Hi, We have some Celerra NAS devices on the network (and SAN) and would like to use NDMP to back up those devices. We have a tape library with six tape drives in the SAN. Is it possible to configure the Celerra NAS devices to mount the tape drives from the SAN with NetBackup SSO option? Or we have to mount the tape drive on one of the NetBackup media servers and do three-way or remote NDMP backup? I read through the NetBackup for NDMP SA's guide but still not clear on how SSO works with NDMP. Can somebody kindly explain to me how SSO works with NDMP? Thanks much, Rongsheng ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu * This message and any attachments (the "message") are confidential and intended solely for the addressees. Any unauthorised use or dissemination is prohibited. E-mails are susceptible to alteration. Neither SOCIETE GENERALE nor any of its subsidiaries or affiliates shall be liable for the message if altered, changed or falsified. * ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
