Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup changes

2008-02-19 Thread Mr. Hernandez
You can utilize CVS/SVN tools to track changes, because you can retain a
database of all changes, which includes what and who.

You can also run the command below to create a baseline configuration:

bppllist -allpolicies -U > allpolicies_base

Then have a "cron" or "at" job run every 24 hours running the same command
and redirecting the output to a file appended with the current date and
time.  Then running diff against both files and capturing the differences,
which can be emailed, and stored in a data repository.  This will not
provide who, but it is a systematic way of capturing changes.

-- 
Cheers,
Tito Hernandez
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup changes

2008-02-18 Thread Stuart Liddle
We used to use subversion (SVN) a version control system to track our
changes.  We would first do a list of all of the policies using the
following command:

bppllist -allpolicies -U > policylistfile

This file was then checked into subversion along with a change control
request number (we did not make changes without first getting a request
from someone).

This system was very useful in finding out when & what changes to the
backup policies were made.  So, if we needed to find out who made the
change to the path for a given policy, we could look it up and find out
that there was a request to do so by a given user.very helpful
indeed!

--stuart

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We do use tripwire. It gives us the "what" but not the "who".

One problem for auditing we've found is that the while the java gui can
log the command strings, there's always the command line to circumvent.
If you don't hand out root and only use the GUI, then you can add the
"-lc" option to the jnbSA command line and log the commands it runs in
the background.

So, write a wrapper script to jnbSA, add the "-lc" option and a specific
log file location like this and you're got something that might work.

example:

>cat jnb
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/jnbSA -l
/usr/openv/netbackup/logs/gui_logs/$USER.`date +%y%m%d%H%M%S` -lc
 
...
It's not much but it keeps our auditors happy.


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You don't mention what OS, but perhaps "tripwire" or "big brother" would
be
of help.

Regards,

Patrick Whelan
Whelan Consulting Limited

VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX.
VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Microsoft Windows.


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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup changes

Hello,

I am interested to know if anyone has or knows of any software which can

easily track the changes made in netbackup. We have a fairly large 
install and would like to be able to track who makes changes to what and

when for obvious reasons. I have had a look at the documentation but its

not clear if its possible in the "standard product". Does anyone have 
any advice that they can provide me?

Regards,

Jimmy
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup changes

2008-02-15 Thread Mark.Donaldson
We do use tripwire. It gives us the "what" but not the "who".

One problem for auditing we've found is that the while the java gui can
log the command strings, there's always the command line to circumvent.
If you don't hand out root and only use the GUI, then you can add the
"-lc" option to the jnbSA command line and log the commands it runs in
the background.

So, write a wrapper script to jnbSA, add the "-lc" option and a specific
log file location like this and you're got something that might work.

example:

>cat jnb
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/jnbSA -l
/usr/openv/netbackup/logs/gui_logs/$USER.`date +%y%m%d%H%M%S` -lc
 
...
It's not much but it keeps our auditors happy.


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You don't mention what OS, but perhaps "tripwire" or "big brother" would
be
of help.

Regards,

Patrick Whelan
Whelan Consulting Limited

VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX.
VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Microsoft Windows.


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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup changes

Hello,

I am interested to know if anyone has or knows of any software which can

easily track the changes made in netbackup. We have a fairly large 
install and would like to be able to track who makes changes to what and

when for obvious reasons. I have had a look at the documentation but its

not clear if its possible in the "standard product". Does anyone have 
any advice that they can provide me?

Regards,

Jimmy
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup changes

2008-02-15 Thread Jimmy Stewpot
Hi

Thanks for your response, is we run the GUI from a windows system 
remotely can we enable logging on the server and the logs are stored there?

It maybe a stupid question but i cannot find it in the administration 
guides.

Regards,

Jimmy

rcarlisle wrote:
> You can turn  auditing on in the JAVA GUI, if you use that.  However, the
> tracking will be on the system that anyone logged in on.  You can tie that
> down to one system and that would allow you to control it a little better.
> I know that Aptare also does track some changes from within the GUI...but I
> am not positive what level it comes down to.
> 
> Since any product is going to be somewhat dependant on what resources
> Symantec has natively (if the changes aren't tracked within the product at
> all, it's hard for a third party software to track them), it might be hard
> to find a product that doe what you are looking for.  Depending on the level
> of auditing you want.
> 
> I do know that NBU 7.0 is going to be a security focused release with much
> more emphasis on auditing and tracking information. 
> 
> 
>  
>  
> ReneƩ Carlisle 
> ServerWare Corporation
>  
> 
> 
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> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am interested to know if anyone has or knows of any software which can 
> easily track the changes made in netbackup. We have a fairly large 
> install and would like to be able to track who makes changes to what and 
> when for obvious reasons. I have had a look at the documentation but its 
> not clear if its possible in the "standard product". Does anyone have 
> any advice that they can provide me?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jimmy
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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup changes

2008-02-15 Thread Patrick
You don't mention what OS, but perhaps "tripwire" or "big brother" would be
of help.

Regards,

Patrick Whelan
Whelan Consulting Limited

VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX.
VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Microsoft Windows.


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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup changes

Hello,

I am interested to know if anyone has or knows of any software which can 
easily track the changes made in netbackup. We have a fairly large 
install and would like to be able to track who makes changes to what and 
when for obvious reasons. I have had a look at the documentation but its 
not clear if its possible in the "standard product". Does anyone have 
any advice that they can provide me?

Regards,

Jimmy
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup changes

2008-02-15 Thread rcarlisle
You can turn  auditing on in the JAVA GUI, if you use that.  However, the
tracking will be on the system that anyone logged in on.  You can tie that
down to one system and that would allow you to control it a little better.
I know that Aptare also does track some changes from within the GUI...but I
am not positive what level it comes down to.

Since any product is going to be somewhat dependant on what resources
Symantec has natively (if the changes aren't tracked within the product at
all, it's hard for a third party software to track them), it might be hard
to find a product that doe what you are looking for.  Depending on the level
of auditing you want.

I do know that NBU 7.0 is going to be a security focused release with much
more emphasis on auditing and tracking information. 


 
 
ReneƩ Carlisle 
ServerWare Corporation
 


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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup changes

Hello,

I am interested to know if anyone has or knows of any software which can 
easily track the changes made in netbackup. We have a fairly large 
install and would like to be able to track who makes changes to what and 
when for obvious reasons. I have had a look at the documentation but its 
not clear if its possible in the "standard product". Does anyone have 
any advice that they can provide me?

Regards,

Jimmy
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