Re: [Veritas-bu] Unadvertised utility in Netbackup

2006-02-12 Thread Dan Pritts
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 07:51:00AM -0500, Paul Keating wrote:
 Sounds like you might want something like Powerbroker.
  
 Rather than everyone having root, each person logs in as themselves, and 
 executes a powerbroker script that gives them the access rights they need (if 
 that is root, then so be it.)
 Everything gets logged on the powerbroker server, and only one person needs 
 root.
  

also see sudo from the open source world.

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Unadvertised utility in Netbackup

2006-02-07 Thread Paul Keating
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Sounds 
like you might want something like Powerbroker.

Rather 
than everyone having "root", each person logs in as themselves, and executes a 
powerbroker script that gives them the access rights they need (if that is 
"root", then so be it.)
Everything gets logged on the powerbroker server, and only one person 
needs root.

Paul

  
  -Original Message-From: Hampus Lind 
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  PMTo: Paul Keating; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: SV: [Veritas-bu] 
  Unadvertised utility in Netbackup
  
  We have a lot of root 
  people at all our shops.. L
  
  Of course I got 
  access to all the data that are controlled under netbackup, and with that can 
  cause great damage.
  The question was more 
  in terms of “is it logged somewhere”? I`am I really safe if something happens 
  and people know I got this “feature”? I cant really proof that I did not use 
  this command?
  What about bpinst, 
  that are a far more powerful utility that allow you to execute scripts on any 
  client server you which.
  
  When it comes to 
  SLA`s our units agree to backups and controlled restores, not to the 
  possibility of undocumented programs that pretty much can do anything anytime 
  without any logging on there servers. 
  
  
  
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  utility in Netbackup
  
  
  it's 
  executable by root.
  
  
  
  keep 
  unauthorized root out of your box...sleep well at 
  night.
  
  
  
  yes, 
  it's a security risk...yes, it can save your buttyes, you can shoot 
  yourself in the foot with it...you can even blow your whole leg 
  off.
  
  
  
  anything you can do 
  with bpgp, you can do with a creative backup and 
  restore.
  
  
  
  Paul
  
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Hi all,

What are your 
comments to the bpgp utility, and others, in netbackup? I understand that it 
sometimes are useful for backup admins, my self included. But isen`t it also 
a great security risk? Does the use of this utility get logged somewhere? 


Thanks and 
regards,
MVH / Hampus 
LindRikspolisstyrelsenNational Police BoardTel dir: +46 (0)8 - 
401 99 43Tel mob: +46 
(0)70 - 217 92 66E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: [Veritas-bu] Unadvertised utility in Netbackup

2006-02-06 Thread Anthony Tocco








That Utility is an undocumented Utility.
I believe that utility is in the system for Veritas Tech support and we the users
have hijacked for use.







Tony Tocco

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Hi all,



What are your comments to the bpgp utility, and
others, in netbackup? I understand that it sometimes are useful for backup
admins, my self included. But isen`t it also a great security risk? Does the
use of this utility get logged somewhere? 



Thanks and regards,

MVH / Hampus Lind
Rikspolisstyrelsen
National Police Board
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Unadvertised utility in Netbackup

2006-02-06 Thread Paul Keating
Title: Message



it's 
executable by root.

keep 
unauthorized root out of your box...sleep well at night.

yes, 
it's a security risk...yes, it can save your buttyes, you can shoot yourself 
in the foot with it...you can even blow your whole leg off.

anything you can do with bpgp, you can do with a creative backup and 
restore.

Paul

  
  -Original Message-From: 
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  LindSent: February 6, 2006 2:13 PMTo: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Unadvertised 
  utility in Netbackup
  
  Hi all,
  
  What are your comments to the bpgp 
  utility, and others, in netbackup? I understand that it sometimes are useful 
  for backup admins, my self included. But isen`t it also a great security risk? 
  Does the use of this utility get logged somewhere? 
  
  Thanks and 
  regards,
  MVH / Hampus 
  LindRikspolisstyrelsenNational Police BoardTel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 
  99 43Tel mob: +46 
  (0)70 - 217 92 66E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  


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RE: [Veritas-bu] Unadvertised utility in Netbackup

2006-02-06 Thread Bob Stump
The first time I saw bpgp it was in the script called add_slave_on_client.
It was used to gather the bp.conf file from all of the UNIX clients unto the 
master server.
The new slave server entry would then be appended to the client's bp.conf file.
bpgp would then be used to send the modified bp.conf file back to the client.


 Paul Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/6/2006 2:58 PM 
it's executable by root.
 
keep unauthorized root out of your box...sleep well at night.
 
yes, it's a security risk...yes, it can save your buttyes, you can
shoot yourself in the foot with it...you can even blow your whole leg
off.
 
anything you can do with bpgp, you can do with a creative backup and
restore.
 
Paul

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Hi all,

 

What are your comments to the bpgp utility, and others, in
netbackup? I understand that it sometimes are useful for backup admins,
my self included. But isen`t it also a great security risk? Does the use
of this utility get logged somewhere? 

 

Thanks and regards,

MVH / Hampus Lind
Rikspolisstyrelsen
National Police Board
Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43
Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 



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