Re: Can't install demo --- says trial period expired

2009-03-30 Thread john.patrick.gal...@gmail.com

I guess I'll try SmartSVN ... it seems to work.

On Mar 24, 12:57 pm, "john.patrick.gal...@gmail.com"
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> Subject says it all ... I want to try this but it won't let me ... how
> do I fix this?
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Re: Can't install demo --- says trial period expired

2009-03-30 Thread Quinn Taylor
Emphasis on "seems to".  :-)  Versions is much more polished, and I  
think worth a little patience with any bumps in getting the trial  
working. There are several SVN clients for OS X, but very few that  
work like a true Mac app. I suppose it really depends on what's most  
important to you, but you might try giving it another shot.


Did you previously install a demo version and let the trial period  
expire, or might someone else have done so? That could explain why it  
won't load now. You might try it on another Mac if you have access to  
one and see if you love the app before giving up.


 - Quinn


On Mar 30, 2009, at 8:20 AM, john.patrick.gal...@gmail.com wrote:



I guess I'll try SmartSVN ... it seems to work.

On Mar 24, 12:57 pm, "john.patrick.gal...@gmail.com"
 wrote:
Subject says it all ... I want to try this but it won't let me ...  
how

do I fix this?

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Re: Can't install demo --- says trial period expired

2009-03-30 Thread john.patrick.gal...@gmail.com

It may have been previously installed as I inherited this Mac.

Don't have the time/patience to find another machine.



On Mar 30, 11:53 am, Quinn Taylor  wrote:
> Emphasis on "seems to".  :-)  Versions is much more polished, and I  
> think worth a little patience with any bumps in getting the trial  
> working. There are several SVN clients for OS X, but very few that  
> work like a true Mac app. I suppose it really depends on what's most  
> important to you, but you might try giving it another shot.
>
> Did you previously install a demo version and let the trial period  
> expire, or might someone else have done so? That could explain why it  
> won't load now. You might try it on another Mac if you have access to  
> one and see if you love the app before giving up.
>
>   - Quinn
>
> On Mar 30, 2009, at 8:20 AM, john.patrick.gal...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > I guess I'll try SmartSVN ... it seems to work.
>
> > On Mar 24, 12:57 pm, "john.patrick.gal...@gmail.com"
> >  wrote:
> >> Subject says it all ... I want to try this but it won't let me ...  
> >> how
> >> do I fix this?
> > >
>
>
>  smime.p7s
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Re: Subversion 1.6

2009-03-30 Thread Alberto Ganesh Barbati

On 30 Mar, 04:06, Quinn Taylor  wrote:
> That said, the "special" thing about the built-in SVN libraries is
> that they are version 1.4.4 only.

In your valiant effor to clarify things, this statement is very
imprecise. It's true that MacOSX ships with the 1.4.4 libraries, but
those libraries are not "built-in" into anything and nothing prevents
the user to upgrade them. In fact the XCode SDK states explicitly (see
http://developer.apple.com/tools/subversionxcode.html) that it was
designed to work with 1.5.x and you can find on the developer forums
the procedure to upgrade.

> Since Versions is designed to
> support 1.5.x as well, and can't count on users having 1.5.x
> installed, the logical choice is to bundle the necessary library
> internally. By the same token, for someone like Ganesh who has
> replaced the built-in 1.4.4 tools with the 1.5.6 tools, Versions also
> shouldn't count on users having 1.4.4 installed, so it's also bundled
> internally. Similarly, although using 1.6.x should "just work", if
> anything in Versions were incompatible with or buggy under a newer
> release of SVN, it wouldn't be "safe" for them to allows users to
> dynamically link to whatever is installed in /usr/lib, or /opt/
> subversion, or wherever.

If it's safe for XCode, why wouldn't it be safe for Versions? Really I
don't get it. We are not talking of a tool for dumb end users. I am a
programmer with 20+ years of experience, I know that if I upgrade
there is a risk of incompatibility. I won't blame the programmers of
Versions if it happen. But I do blame the programmers of Versions if
they don't let me try simply because they are afraid of user
complaints. Especially since it is a feature that de facto is already
implemented! Versions is shipped with two bundles, namely SA146.bundle
and SA154.bundle. I don't know the details, but I'm pretty sure that
if I put symbolic links into one of those bundles, everything will
work just nice.

> Versions already checks the version of the command-line binaries in /
> usr/bin for compatibility to help minimize conflicts and be a good
> citizen, for which the devs are to be commended. I agree that it would
> be nice if there were an easier process for end users to update the
> 1.4.x and 1.5.x libraries bundled inside Versions. It's not highest on
> my priority list, since the minor point releases generally fix fairly
> minor bugs and don't introduce any new backwards-incompatible
> functionality. There are many other points of usability and polish on
> which I place higher value, although I'll be glad to have a newer
> bundled SVN as well.

I don't need, nor request to update the libraries shipped with
Versions.

> Perhaps if the preference to point to a custom library location were
> unexposed in the UI and had to be set in Terminal using the `defaults`
> command, it would be self-evident that if you change it, you get what
> you get, and don't blame the developers. Even so, I think it would be
> difficult to make it work in all cases, since the devs wouldn't be
> able to link against every possible library at build time, and you
> wouldn't want them to since it could have an adverse effect on binary
> size and load time. I'll trust the devs to decide whether such an
> approach would even work, since they know their code. :-)

I think that providing an "hidden" feature is kind of stupid. Versions
already warns you about possible incompatibility between 1.4.6 and
1.5.4. Just add another warning. If the user wants to shoot himself on
the foot, just let him.

Just my opinion,

Ganesh

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Duplication

2009-03-30 Thread Gibson

Hey guys!

I'm a new user of vectors (still testing it demo version), an I found
some troubles working whith a windows network.
My files that contains accent have automaticaly created a revision,
generated in my computer (macbook), when I made the checkout or the
update command in my folders.
When I do the commit, it has created two files whith the same name in
the server too (windows server).
Does anyone knows how can I fix it?

Best regards.

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Feature Request: Recursive Add

2009-03-30 Thread Steven Sacks

One of the greatest features in TortoiseSVN on Windows is the ability
to choose "Add" on a folder that already exists in the repository
which will dig down and find any files or folders that are not under
version control and add them for you.  This is a HUGE timesaver,
especially if you have added a bunch of folders and files in various
subfolders.  You can just hit the top level and click Add and it will
find and add any subfolders and files that have not been added.
Digging down yourself manually takes a lot of time.

Please consider adding this extremely useful feature.

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Re: Feature Request: Recursive Add

2009-03-30 Thread Quinn Taylor
I won't say it couldn't be a useful feature, but I think the different  
nature of Versions makes this less of an issue. Since TortoiseSVN is  
primarily a context-menu-based tool, it makes sense to eliminate lots  
of file system "yo-yo" browsing. Since versions is an application, I  
find the easiest way to add as-yet unversioned contents of a directory  
is to toggle from "All" to "Changed". Anything that hasn't yet been  
added will show up with a question mark. (This works best if any  
modified resources have already been committed.) I do realize this  
involves command-clicking each entry and clicking Add, but it's a lot  
less work than filesystem browsing. Also, when adding files/ 
directories, I tend to err on the side of caution — I don't generally  
add everything that hasn't been yet, but instead specifically add what  
I want to add. Maybe that's different than your workflow, so the  
feature could still be more useful to you than to me.


 - Quinn

On Mar 30, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Steven Sacks wrote:


One of the greatest features in TortoiseSVN on Windows is the ability
to choose "Add" on a folder that already exists in the repository
which will dig down and find any files or folders that are not under
version control and add them for you.  This is a HUGE timesaver,
especially if you have added a bunch of folders and files in various
subfolders.  You can just hit the top level and click Add and it will
find and add any subfolders and files that have not been added.
Digging down yourself manually takes a lot of time.

Please consider adding this extremely useful feature.

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Re: Subversion 1.6

2009-03-30 Thread Quinn Taylor


On Mar 30, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Alberto Ganesh Barbati wrote:


On 30 Mar, 04:06, Quinn Taylor  wrote:

That said, the "special" thing about the built-in SVN libraries is
that they are version 1.4.4 only.


In your valiant effor to clarify things, this statement is very
imprecise. It's true that MacOSX ships with the 1.4.4 libraries, but
those libraries are not "built-in" into anything and nothing prevents
the user to upgrade them. In fact the XCode SDK states explicitly (see
http://developer.apple.com/tools/subversionxcode.html) that it was
designed to work with 1.5.x and you can find on the developer forums
the procedure to upgrade.


I wasn't trying to start a dispute about it, but be aware that many  
people internal to Apple often refer to "built-in" tools. Of course  
this is meant to refer to the stock tools, the default, the ones that  
ship with the system, the ones that can affect the entire system if  
modified, ones that require admin access to change. I apologize if  
this caused any confusion, but I didn't mean they were built into  
anything in particular, which is why I specifically listed the  
locations where they are installed.


(As a note, I can't find anywhere on that link that backs up your  
claim. Midway down the page, it states that Xcode 1.5+ has support for  
Subversion built-in, but nothing about which version of Xcode. That  
article was last update at the end of 2005, right when SVN 1.3 was  
released, which is why the instructions detail installing SVN 1.2.3.)



Since Versions is designed to
support 1.5.x as well, and can't count on users having 1.5.x
installed, the logical choice is to bundle the necessary library
internally. By the same token, for someone like Ganesh who has
replaced the built-in 1.4.4 tools with the 1.5.6 tools, Versions also
shouldn't count on users having 1.4.4 installed, so it's also bundled
internally. Similarly, although using 1.6.x should "just work", if
anything in Versions were incompatible with or buggy under a newer
release of SVN, it wouldn't be "safe" for them to allows users to
dynamically link to whatever is installed in /usr/lib, or /opt/
subversion, or wherever.


If it's safe for XCode, why wouldn't it be safe for Versions? Really I
don't get it. We are not talking of a tool for dumb end users. I am a
programmer with 20+ years of experience, I know that if I upgrade
there is a risk of incompatibility. I won't blame the programmers of
Versions if it happen. But I do blame the programmers of Versions if
they don't let me try simply because they are afraid of user
complaints. Especially since it is a feature that de facto is already
implemented! Versions is shipped with two bundles, namely SA146.bundle
and SA154.bundle. I don't know the details, but I'm pretty sure that
if I put symbolic links into one of those bundles, everything will
work just nice.


No offense, but that's a flawed premise. Compatibility of one  
application does not imply compatibility of all applications. I know  
the Subversion team takes great pains to ensure maximum compatibility,  
but sometimes bug fixes can break expected behavior, and my experience  
is that allowing one's software to knowingly operate in untested  
situations is dangerous.


Xcode has a vastly larger development and test team than does  
Versions, and it's an entirely different beast. If the Versions devs  
were to state that their app is designed to work with SVN 1.6.x and  
provide instructions to upgrade, then one can make the case that it  
should be safe. Given the recurrent nature of several other feature  
requests and bug reports, I'm sure the devs are more occupied with  
things that will are more important to a greater number of users.


I made no assumptions (or insults) about your skill or experience.  
It's true that Subversion isn't designed for "dumb end users" — it is  
generally assumed that people who are dealing with Subversion have a  
higher level of expertise. However, many of the questions on this  
forum indicate that many Versions users are still relative novices  
when it comes to the ins and outs of Subversion. (Heck, I'm an  
experienced programmer, and I still do pretty much all my work in  
trunk! I've been waiting to deal with branching and merging until I  
can move all my development to 1.5. For personal projects, I simply  
haven't had the need to branch.)



Versions already checks the version of the command-line binaries in /
usr/bin for compatibility to help minimize conflicts and be a good
citizen, for which the devs are to be commended. I agree that it  
would

be nice if there were an easier process for end users to update the
1.4.x and 1.5.x libraries bundled inside Versions. It's not highest  
on

my priority list, since the minor point releases generally fix fairly
minor bugs and don't introduce any new backwards-incompatible
functionality. There are many other points of usability and polish on
which I place higher value, although I'll be glad to have a

Re: Subversion 1.6

2009-03-30 Thread Quinn Taylor
(As a note, I can't find anywhere on that link that backs up your  
claim. Midway down the page, it states that Xcode 1.5+ has support  
for Subversion built-in, but nothing about which version of Xcode.  
That article was last update at the end of 2005, right when SVN 1.3  
was released, which is why the instructions detail installing SVN  
1.2.3.)


(Of course I meant "nothing about which version of Subversion.")

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Re: Problem with umlaut characters like ö,ä,ü

2009-03-30 Thread Gibson

I have exactly the same problem working whith both windows and Mac in
a server based in windows server 2003.
Now I have  files and folders duplicated whith the same name in my
macbook and in the server...
Is there anything I can do to fix it?

Regards
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Re: Problem with umlaut characters like ö,ä,ü

2009-03-30 Thread Gibson

I forgot to say, I'm working in brasilian portuguese (á; ã; ç; õ)

On 4 mar, 11:19, ruluk7  wrote:
> Is there any chance that there will ever be an update addressing this
> problem? Even if it's not Versions fault, Versions should be able to
> handle that correctly... At least other SVN clients do (SmartSVN).
>
> regards
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