Re: [VFB] Tony visit

[Alan Di Somma]

thanks for the update Peggy. please give Tony and Dot my thoughts and prayers.


phxflytyer
Phoenix,AZ


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> On Feb 20, 2020, at 8:15 AM, Peggy Brenner  wrote:
> 
> I went and visited Tony yesterday at the hospital in the end he was 
> discharged to the rehab Dot is in. Things are not looking good but he has set 
> a goal of making his big 90 birthday, and Sowbug,he has his pattern picked 
> out.
> 
> Today I'm going to the nursing home and see them both,, I'll email you all 
> tonight.
> 
> Peggy B
> 
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 2:26 PM Chuck Alexander  > wrote:
> Great patterns. And my wife and I were just talking  Saturday about building 
> a stockpile of various length furled leaders cause our stock is low. Chuck
> 
>  
> 
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Gary Webb
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 11:44 PM
> To: vfb-mail mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Health and weather
> 
>  
> 
> I hope I didn't mislead any of you.  These flys are new to me.
> 
> Over the years I've tied many "Easiest Ever Ant Pattern" patterns.
> 
>  One of my all time favorites:  The late Ed Sutryn's McMurray Ant:  
> https://www.flydreamers.com/en/fly-tying/mc-murray-ant-vl233 
>   Years ago I 
> ordered some from Ed.  Still in my vest. I'll never use them.  But trout love 
> ants so even my poor copies produce.  And I've tied Harrison Steeve's 
> TransparAnt.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uIKex5Z-Ws 
> 
> Also Kelly Gallup's Ant Acid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uuYX-cKqio 
>   
> 
> I've tied a variety of fur  and foam ants.
> 
>  
> 
>   But my newest ant pattern I'm tying is Mr. Bill's Flying Ant.   
> http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/050806fotw.php 
> 
>  
> 
> The other new to me fly is Justin Bruce's:  Houdini Tenkara Fly:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIB18lIzwew&t=496s 
>  
> 
> I bought a $10 rod from China to try fishing the Tenkara method.
> 
> And I've tied a bunch of Kebari style flies. Which I'm hoping to try soon.  
> On most of the small streams I fish Tenkara will work well.
> 
> Chuck, furled leaders work really well with Tenkara rods.
> 
> Well that's what I've been up to this winter.
> 
> Gary
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 10:11 PM Chuck Alexander 
> mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Gary: Thanks. Will do on keeping you both in my prayers. Chuck
> 
>  
> 
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> Gary Webb
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 12:26 AM
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> Subject: Re: [VFB] Health and weather
> 
>  
> 
> Good to hear you're getting healthier Chuck.   I'm doing well, but
> 
> Susan has had some setbacks.  I won't go into details.  Just keep us in your 
> prayers as I know you do.   Weather here is typical Wisconsin in February.  
> Ten inches of snow last Sunday and minus 18 this morning.  The sun was 
> shining but I wasn't even tempted to try for some trout.  Barely took my dog 
> for a walk. When we get a day where temps get above freezing I'll be out 
> trying some new patterns I tied recently.   
> 
> Gary
> 
>  
> 
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 6:40 PM Chuck Alexander 
> mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Folks: since the group is real slow, so I thought I’d send a health and 
> weather email out asking about everybody. How is everybody’s health and 
> weather??? I FINALLY got over the pneumonia and dehydration I was 
> hospitalized because of   for a few days back in November. I kept a hacking 
> cough for over three months before getting rid of if FINALLY . And I think we 
> have had rain for about 30 STRAIGHT.  And I hope to fix a few more things on 
> my boat and boat trailer so we can boat fish as much as possible this yr but 
> it’s always raining so I haven’t been able to work on it. Hope everybody is 
> at least doing “fair to middlin’ “as we say in the deep South here, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Moore

[Alan Di Somma]

Chuck:

You know I will be the first to join. If you are mastering the swap, please 
send the box to me as I visit him every time  I am in Texas..
I would like to give the box to Jody personally.

I will get back to you as to Jimmy’s favorite fly.


phxflytyer
Phoenix,AZ


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> On Sep 25, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Chuck Alexander  
> wrote:
> 
> That is terrible news.  I was just asking  around about him a week or two ago 
> as He hasn’t posted in quite a while.I know he’d been having health problems 
> for quite some time.  Jimmy was one of the many “old timers” on VFB who 
> taught me to fly fish and fly tie yrs ago. Without these ppl I’d have gotten 
> to  depressed about not “getting it right” I’d have hung up my vise yrs ago 
> as there is no trout etc around here, thus very few fly fishermen in the area 
> to learn from “in person” so between ppl like Jimmy D., videos, and books 
> that’s how I learned to tie and cast.
>  
> Speaking of David Murphy, I didn’t know him well as he passed away right 
> after the first Sow Bug at the tender age of 50 I think. I also thing Murph 
> is the one that about 15 of us got together and tied Chili peppers, put them 
> in a memorial shadow box and sent one to Murphs wife and kids etc. I think we 
> should do the same for Jimmy D’s family as well. If somebody van come up with 
> the pattern, I’d be glad to meister such a swap unless somebody else would 
> rather do that.
>  
> Anyway, let me know if you’d even be interested or not and I’ll go Saturday 
> to my local Hobby Lobby and price the shadw boxes, postage etc ect and come 
> up with a total price.  I see this 8” by 10” sized one that could hole up to 
> about 20 flies or less for only $8.99 each, which mens that it should be 
> within each ones budget as with shipping etc and the hooks etc $15 each, or 
> less Chuck
>  
> https://www.hobbylobby.com/Home-Decor-Frames/Frames-Photo-Albums/Shadow-Boxes-Display-Cases/Black-Thin-Line-Shadow-Box---8%22-x-10%22-/p/80652736
>  
> <https://www.hobbylobby.com/Home-Decor-Frames/Frames-Photo-Albums/Shadow-Boxes-Display-Cases/Black-Thin-Line-Shadow-Box---8%22-x-10%22-/p/80652736>
>  
> From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail  
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:11 PM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Moore
>  
> Hate to hear this news.  Prayers for the family.
> Arkansas Tony
>  
> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 11:05:59 AM CDT, Neville Gosling 
> mailto:nev.gosl...@gmail.com>> wrote: 
>  
>  
> All the early members of VFB will remember Jimmy D.Moore just as we remember 
> Byard’s pall Murph. 
> I passed the sad news on to Don Ordes and this was his response
>  
> "So very sad. Prayers on the way."
> 
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> Greater Vancouver BC
>  
>  
>> On Sep 25, 2019, at 8:51 AM, Alan Di Somma > <mailto:phxflyt...@cox.net>> wrote:
>>  
> 
> It is with a very deeply saddened heart that I have to tell you that my good 
> friend Jimmy  passed away yesterday.
>  
> I am in Texas now and will be attending his funeral. I will appreciate it if 
> you could all say a prayer for Jimmy and his wife Jody.
>  
> When I get more info I will pass it on.
>  
>  
> phxflytyer
> Phoenix,AZ
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[VFB] Jimmy D. Moore

[Alan Di Somma]

It is with a very deeply saddened heart that I have to tell you that my good 
friend Jimmy  passed away yesterday.

I am in Texas now and will be attending his funeral. I will appreciate it if 
you could all say a prayer for Jimmy and his wife Jody.

When I get more info I will pass it on.


phxflytyer
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Re: [VFB] Tony & Dot

[Alan Di Somma]

Tony:

I feel your pain.
I lost a granddaughter at 21.
Very sad.
My prayers are with you and Dot to know she won’t be feeling any more pain.


phxflytyer
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> On Jun 16, 2017, at 4:31 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
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> Thanks for all the prayers.
> She was only 37 years old.
> Tony
> 
> On Thu, 6/15/17, Allan Fish  wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [VFB] Tony & Dot
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, June 15, 2017, 9:22 PM
> 
> Oh
> no!
> 
> Sent from my
> iPhone
> On Jun 15,
> 2017, at 9:33 PM, Joyce M Westphal 
> wrote:
> 
> I am so sorry.  Thanks for
> letting me know. Joyce
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at
> 6:24 PM, ladyflytyer 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Just a quick note to let everyone know that Tony
> ¨ have lost a Grand daughter.
> Peggy  B 
> Lee Vining, CA
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Re: [VFB] Fantasy Fly news and updates

[Alan Di Somma]

Congratulations Don. I know you deserve it. 


phxflytyer
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> On Apr 14, 2017, at 3:28 PM, DonO  wrote:
> 
> Just some fly news for retirement-time this summer.  Got many irons in the 
> fire, so it’s very hectic.  Getting in sync with my sister-in-law (new web 
> master) is taking a little time, but is coming along well.  New tricks + old 
> dogs don’t mix well.
>  
> Fly-Side News:
>  
> 1. My Matlacha Rainbow Streamer (below) was chosen for the expo pin logo-fly 
> for the Western Idaho Fly Fishing Expo 2018  scheduled for Jan 13 & 14, 2018. 
>  There was a contest for ‘the best pin fly design’, so I declined since I 
> don’t enter competitions.  They came back to me since they really liked the 
> streamers I donated to their conservation auction at the last show and 
> banquet. So I just sent the MR photo below and told them if they want to use 
> it they could.
>  
> They just got back and said it would be the logo fly on the official Show Pin 
> next year. They usually pick full dress salmon flies.
> 
>  
> 2. Website:  Completely re-doing FantasyFlies.com with a new web-page program 
> and provider.  Will be much easier to post new photos, articles, videos, etc. 
>  No one but Darren can upgrade the html-based site as it is now, so I have to 
> switch to non-genius format. Thanks Darren (Pacres) for your help years ago.
>  
> 3. Rope-dubbing videos are progressing, and have the 1st one for You-tube 
> very close (trailer video- lol).  Had to set me up a You Tube Channel with 
> all the bells and whistles, so that took some time.  Posted some short videos 
> of photos of me at the Idaho Falls show this spring, and one of some 
> streamers- just to test our posting settings.  Looking good.  Needed the 
> website addressed 1st for this also, with a modified Rope Dub page.  Lots of 
> work.
>  
> 4. #32 video.  Have it in editing with SiL for video trials for macro 
> clarity, and I think we’ve got it down now. Will do one more tie, and then 
> some clips of setting up the materials, then final edit and post.  I want to 
> have the website and channel done before I post in case I get any views or 
> traffic. Hope fully it will be as good quality-wise as the Rope Dub #1 DVD 
> video was.  Have had to learn my Sony Handi-cam and the editing software with 
> SiL.
>  
> 5. 14/0 Giant Flies- Making a new group of giant flies and will be posting 
> individual photos of each as they are finished.  That way a buyer gets 
> exactly what he or she ordered.  This will be new- Flies for sale page. Will 
> be how I feed myself after retirement this summer.
>  
> 6.  Big Classic Streamers in clear presentation boxes- Will order the plastic 
> display boxes soon to set my large show-streamers in to sell as individuals.  
> Also getting my wood shop set up for shadow-box framing groups.  Should be 
> fun.  All will be on the new website.
>  
> So LOTS going on, plus getting done a few other things I’ve been putting off. 
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Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making

[Alan Di Somma]

I also should have mentioned that the Veveeus?12/0 is still stronger then 
the Guedebrod 10/0.


phxflytyer
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> On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Alan Di Somma  wrote:
> 
> When I fished the San Juan River in New Mexico a couple of years back I 
> brought my tying stuff and tied some 28 and 30’s.
> I had Bennecci 16/0 and I liked it better then the Guedebrod 10/0 which I 
> thought broke too easily. Never did like that Guedebrod.
> 
> 
> phxflytyer
> Phoenix,AZ
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> 
>> On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Niclas (Gmail) > <mailto:n.runars...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I started to "make" my own thread for flies smaller than #26. Picked out a 
>> few filaments from a piece of GSP thread, waxed, twisted and put it on a 
>> little spool. That was TRUE spiderweb... à la super strong. Using that on a 
>> video it would look like the fly was tying itself while you were just moving 
>> your hand around it.  ;o)
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:39 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
>> mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>> I tyed mine with 10/0 Gudebrod. Too bad they don't make  any more. It was a 
>> finer thread than the 14/0 thread that I once had. This hook is real small, 
>> it will fit in the gape of the sx 32 you might find today.
>> 
>> On Mon, 4/3/17, Pete Gramp > <mailto:pete.gr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Subject: Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making
>>  To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>" 
>> mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>>
>>  Date: Monday, April 3, 2017, 3:40 AM
>> 
>>  I am
>>  anxiously awaiting that video - I can'r say I've
>>  ever tied anything smaller than 26, mostly because I never
>>  felt that fish would take anything smaller, but I admit also
>>  because my skill level just isn't there for it.  I can
>>  hardly fathom tying a 32 of any type (tiemco, mustad, any
>>  type), much less a naked/ blind eye!  
>>  I've used caenis thread on
>>  26's, and that was "big" thread for those (in
>>  my opinion), I can't imagine the special materials you
>>  had to procure to tie that small of a fly.  Any insights
>>  into the materials - were any "unusual" or special
>>  for the task?  
>>  Well done
>>  my friend!-Pete
>>  On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 3:06
>>  AM, Hans Weilenmann > <mailto:hans.weilenm...@gmail.com>>
>>  wrote:
>>  Technically difficult to film would be right. Well
>>  done, m'friend. Looking forward to the video.
>>  Cheers,HansNearsighted
>>  Flytiers United
>> 
>>  On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 6:59
>>  AM, DonO mailto:f...@tribcsp.com>>
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   
>>   
>>  Well, I surprised myself. My old eyeballs are still up
>>  to it.  3
>>  -naked eye #32 RCs.
>>   
>> 
>> 
>>   
>>  Making a tying video for You tube, worked on it
>>  today.  Should post
>>  next week. Technically difficult to film.
>>   
>>  Cheers,
>>  DonO
>>   
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Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making

[Alan Di Somma]

When I fished the San Juan River in New Mexico a couple of years back I brought 
my tying stuff and tied some 28 and 30’s.
I had Bennecci 16/0 and I liked it better then the Guedebrod 10/0 which I 
thought broke too easily. Never did like that Guedebrod.


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> On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Niclas (Gmail)  wrote:
> 
> I started to "make" my own thread for flies smaller than #26. Picked out a 
> few filaments from a piece of GSP thread, waxed, twisted and put it on a 
> little spool. That was TRUE spiderweb... à la super strong. Using that on a 
> video it would look like the fly was tying itself while you were just moving 
> your hand around it.  ;o)
> 
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:39 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
> mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> I tyed mine with 10/0 Gudebrod. Too bad they don't make  any more. It was a 
> finer thread than the 14/0 thread that I once had. This hook is real small, 
> it will fit in the gape of the sx 32 you might find today.
> 
> On Mon, 4/3/17, Pete Gramp  > wrote:
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>  Subject: Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making
>  To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com " 
> mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>>
>  Date: Monday, April 3, 2017, 3:40 AM
> 
>  I am
>  anxiously awaiting that video - I can'r say I've
>  ever tied anything smaller than 26, mostly because I never
>  felt that fish would take anything smaller, but I admit also
>  because my skill level just isn't there for it.  I can
>  hardly fathom tying a 32 of any type (tiemco, mustad, any
>  type), much less a naked/ blind eye!  
>  I've used caenis thread on
>  26's, and that was "big" thread for those (in
>  my opinion), I can't imagine the special materials you
>  had to procure to tie that small of a fly.  Any insights
>  into the materials - were any "unusual" or special
>  for the task?  
>  Well done
>  my friend!-Pete
>  On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 3:06
>  AM, Hans Weilenmann  >
>  wrote:
>  Technically difficult to film would be right. Well
>  done, m'friend. Looking forward to the video.
>  Cheers,HansNearsighted
>  Flytiers United
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>  On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 6:59
>  AM, DonO mailto:f...@tribcsp.com>>
>  wrote:
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> 
> 
> 
>   
>   
>  Well, I surprised myself. My old eyeballs are still up
>  to it.  3
>  -naked eye #32 RCs.
>   
> 
> 
>   
>  Making a tying video for You tube, worked on it
>  today.  Should post
>  next week. Technically difficult to film.
>   
>  Cheers,
>  DonO
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Re: [VFB] Furled Leaders

[Alan Di Somma]

Thanks to y’all for the responses.
I find them all helpful. 
My fishing buddy has one but I think his needs some refinement?
I will use this info to make one for myself.

Thanks to all of you….


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> On Oct 3, 2016, at 9:27 PM, Henk Verhaar  wrote:
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> I'm pretty sure the globalflyfisher website has a description of how to make 
> the jig, as has claude freaner's
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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> Henk Verhaar
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> On 4 okt. 2016, at 06:17, Alan Di Somma  <mailto:phxflyt...@cox.net>> wrote:
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>> Mike:
>> 
>> I just spent the last hour looking on you tube for “how to make a furled 
>> leader jig”
>> 
>> 
>> Could not find one. By any chance do you have a web site?
>> 
>> Found…how to make furled leaders but no jigs.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> phxflytyer
>> Phoenix,AZ
>> 
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>>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Michael Bliss >> <mailto:flyfish...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>> Alan,
>>> 
>>> I would go to youtube and type in furled leaders.  There are some nice 
>>> videos there.
>>> 
>>> Mike B
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Alan Di Somma >> <mailto:phxflyt...@cox.net>> wrote:
>>> Does any one have the spec’s for making a furled leader set up?
>>> 
>>> I love using them but not for buying them. 
>>> 
>>> I would like to make my own but don’t know how to make the board?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> phxflytyer
>>> Phoenix,AZ
>>> 
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Re: [VFB] Furled Leaders

[Alan Di Somma]

Mike:

I just spent the last hour looking on you tube for “how to make a furled leader 
jig”


Could not find one. By any chance do you have a web site?

Found…how to make furled leaders but no jigs.



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> Alan,
> 
> I would go to youtube and type in furled leaders.  There are some nice videos 
> there.
> 
> Mike B
> 
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Alan Di Somma  <mailto:phxflyt...@cox.net>> wrote:
> Does any one have the spec’s for making a furled leader set up?
> 
> I love using them but not for buying them. 
> 
> I would like to make my own but don’t know how to make the board?
> 
> 
> phxflytyer
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Re: [VFB] Furled Leaders

[Alan Di Somma]

Thanks Mike.

How do you like being back on terra firma ?


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> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Alan Di Somma  <mailto:phxflyt...@cox.net>> wrote:
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> 
> I love using them but not for buying them. 
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> I would like to make my own but don’t know how to make the board?
> 
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[VFB] Furled Leaders

[Alan Di Somma]

Does any one have the spec’s for making a furled leader set up?

I love using them but not for buying them. 

I would like to make my own but don’t know how to make the board?


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Re: [VFB] Tony S.

[Alan Di Somma]

Prayers for sure. What is the oper for?
.
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> I had planned to write last night but my internet was down. Hopefully this 
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Re: [VFB] Aspen

[Alan Di Somma]

Damn fingers don’t know how to type———should have been an“I”

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> On May 18, 2016, at 8:38 PM, Alan Di Somma  wrote:
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> Well Allan….handsome is not the word O was thinking…..
> 
> 
> phxflytyer
> Phoenix,AZ
> 
> 
>  "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government 
> take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian."
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> 
>> On May 18, 2016, at 7:05 AM, J Balmer > <mailto:jbal...@betadigm.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> A 90 degree difference…
>>  
>>  
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>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [VFB] Aspen
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Here is what the Maroon Bells looked like yesterday.. Quite a bit different 
>> from when you were there 
>> Wes. 
>>  
>>  
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>> Thank You,
>> Alan Di Somma
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>>  
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>>  
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>> On May 17, 2016, at 8:04 AM, J Balmer > <mailto:jbal...@betadigm.com>> wrote:
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>>> I’ll have to try that next time I’m in Aspen.
>>>  
>>> J
>>>  
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>>> [mailto:wada@gmail.com <mailto:wada@gmail.com>] On Behalf Of Wes 
>>> Wada
>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 7:30 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [VFB] Aspen
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>>> http://www.parhamphotography.com/Landscapes/Colorado-Visions/Maroon-Bells-Region-Aspen/i-qmGh9Gf/1/XL/MB-0509-XL.jpg
>>>  
>>> <http://www.parhamphotography.com/Landscapes/Colorado-Visions/Maroon-Bells-Region-Aspen/i-qmGh9Gf/1/XL/MB-0509-XL.jpg>
>>>  
>>> The lake below the Maroon Bells near Aspen, Colorado is a beautiful setting 
>>> to go fishing.  I used to camp up on the face of the Maroon Bells at upper 
>>> left of that picture.  Denver is my home town, so the Aspen area wasn't 
>>> that far to drive.
>>>  
>>> These days, however, there is even a shuttle that takes people on the road 
>>> up to the lake area.  Kind of ruins the experience compared to the old days.
>>>  
>>> Wes Wada
>>> Bend, Oregon
>>>  
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Alan Di Somma >> <mailto:phxflyt...@cox.net>> wrote:
>>>> I got to fish Maroon Bells Lake today .  Got one small rainbow on a 
>>>> parachute Adams.
>>>>  
>>>> Got to fish in the rain , snow and grapple. Wind blew down the canyon so 
>>>> bad that I had to leave.
>>>>  
>>>> Tomorrow the Frying Pan.   
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
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>>>>  
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Re: [VFB] Aspen

[Alan Di Somma]

Well Allan….handsome is not the word O was thinking…..


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> A 90 degree difference…
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> Subject: Re: [VFB] Aspen
>  
> 
> 
> Here is what the Maroon Bells looked like yesterday.. Quite a bit different 
> from when you were there 
> Wes. 
>  
>  
>  
> Sent from my iPad
>  
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Phoenix, AZ.
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>  
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> 
> On May 17, 2016, at 8:04 AM, J Balmer  <mailto:jbal...@betadigm.com>> wrote:
> 
>> I’ll have to try that next time I’m in Aspen.
>>  
>> J
>>  
>> From: wada@gmail.com <mailto:wada@gmail.com> 
>> [mailto:wada@gmail.com <mailto:wada@gmail.com>] On Behalf Of Wes Wada
>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 7:30 PM
>> To: VFB Mail mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [VFB] Aspen
>>  
>> http://www.parhamphotography.com/Landscapes/Colorado-Visions/Maroon-Bells-Region-Aspen/i-qmGh9Gf/1/XL/MB-0509-XL.jpg
>>  
>> <http://www.parhamphotography.com/Landscapes/Colorado-Visions/Maroon-Bells-Region-Aspen/i-qmGh9Gf/1/XL/MB-0509-XL.jpg>
>>  
>> The lake below the Maroon Bells near Aspen, Colorado is a beautiful setting 
>> to go fishing.  I used to camp up on the face of the Maroon Bells at upper 
>> left of that picture.  Denver is my home town, so the Aspen area wasn't that 
>> far to drive.
>>  
>> These days, however, there is even a shuttle that takes people on the road 
>> up to the lake area.  Kind of ruins the experience compared to the old days.
>>  
>> Wes Wada
>> Bend, Oregon
>>  
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Alan Di Somma > <mailto:phxflyt...@cox.net>> wrote:
>>> I got to fish Maroon Bells Lake today .  Got one small rainbow on a 
>>> parachute Adams.
>>>  
>>> Got to fish in the rain , snow and grapple. Wind blew down the canyon so 
>>> bad that I had to leave.
>>>  
>>> Tomorrow the Frying Pan.   
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> phxflytyer
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>>> Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American 
>>> Indian."
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[VFB] Aspen

[Alan Di Somma]

I got to fish Maroon Bells Lake today .  Got one small rainbow on a parachute 
Adams.

Got to fish in the rain , snow and grapple. Wind blew down the canyon so bad 
that I had to leave.

Tomorrow the Frying Pan.   



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Re: [VFB] New fly for the Keys trip

[Alan Di Somma]

good looking fly Don.

Looks a lot like the crawdads that I tie.


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> On Apr 30, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Don Ordes  wrote:
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> Pretty much all packed and chomping on the bit about going to the Keys.
> Lots to do around here, but it’ll have to wait until we return.
>  
> Tied up a new fly for the trip- a fl-pink Mantis Shrimp:
>  
> 
>  
> I like the way it came out, so I’m doing a green & blue one, but with a 
> longer body.
> What other colors would you ‘Florida Salties’ suggest?
>  
> Also have a lot of tarpon flies packed. The season is on, and I have a guide 
> booked for at least two days.
> Last of my ‘Big Four’ saltwater catches- sailfish, marlin, 50#+ dorado, and 
> tarpon.
> There are others, and I’ll take them as they come.
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Re: [VFB] A little bird

[Alan Di Somma]

Thank you from the poor old decrepit dude.



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> On Mar 29, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
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> A little bird told me that Alan DiSomma ("Single L Al") just got a year older 
> today.
> (Poor old decrepit dude.)
> 
> HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ALAN
>  -- 
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Re: [VFB] Big Trout

[Alan Di Somma]

Yes he did say that he was planning on the Oct. trip.


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> On Mar 11, 2016, at 6:02 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
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> He is planning on making the SRG here in October.
> Hope you were going to make the Sowbug. Over 140 tyers are signed up.
> Tony
> 
> 
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 5:56 PM, Phxflytyer  wrote:
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> 
> BTW Tony, Brett said to say hello.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Phoenix, AZ.
> 
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2016, at 4:10 PM, "'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail" 
> mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> 
>> I forgot to mention that 30" Brown was caught on a fly rod and 10 streamer.
>> Arkansas Tony
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 5:06 PM, Anthony Spezio > <mailto:bambot...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> You are welcome to come and try. A tyer that will be at the Sowbug is going 
>> out tomorrow with his friend who caught a 30" Brown a week or so ago.  
>> forgot what he said the girt was.
>> There was a 27" caught just above my dock and another 26" below my dock two 
>> weeks ago.
>> Arkansas Tony
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 4:57 PM, Alan Di Somma > <mailto:phxflyt...@cox.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> tempting Tony…..very tempting.
>> 
>> 
>> phxflytyer
>> Phoenix,AZ
>> 
>> 
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>> Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American 
>> Indian."
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>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2016, at 3:38 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
>>> mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I had a friend come down to check my boat, having lot of rain Going down 
>>> the ramp he yelled for me to come to where he was. I normally don't go down 
>>> to the dock as I have problems walking across the yard. There was a Brown I 
>>> say about 28" long  up against the bank. Water is real high and I was just 
>>> about 10" from the bank. There has been a load of large Browns caught on 
>>> this high water that went over 25". Several were caught around my dock area
>>> Arkansas Tony.
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Re: [VFB] Big Trout

[Alan Di Somma]

tempting Tony…..very tempting.


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> On Mar 11, 2016, at 3:38 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had a friend come down to check my boat, having lot of rain Going down the 
> ramp he yelled for me to come to where he was. I normally don't go down to 
> the dock as I have problems walking across the yard. There was a Brown I say 
> about 28" long  up against the bank. Water is real high and I was just about 
> 10" from the bank. There has been a load of large Browns caught on this high 
> water that went over 25". Several were caught around my dock area
> Arkansas Tony.
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Re: Alan DiS: Re: [VFB] Jimmy D

[Alan Di Somma]

I know. It happened two more times to me. I even tried to forward the one that 
was returned by the mail subsystem (whatever that is)

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> On Feb 13, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
> 
> I just tried sending him a test message again.  The one also burped back, 
> saying the e-mail account is over quota.
> 
> For some reason Jimmy's got his e-mail set up really funky.  From trying to 
> decipher the gobbledy-gook that came back with the rejection notice, it 
> appears that e-mails sent to  are being transferred to 
> .  The bigtroutman.com account is over quota.
> 
> Alan, why don't you fly over there and help him out with this.  Get him set 
> up with att.net or someone else.  Or maybe he simply needs to cut loose of 
> some of those big bucks and pay Earthlink for more storage space.  
> 
> af
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Re: [VFB] Jimmy D

[Alan Di Somma]

My reply just bounced back from BIGTROUTMAN this past minute.

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> On Feb 13, 2016, at 10:44 AM, ray...@earthlink.net wrote:
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> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: Allan Fish mailto:afi...@sbcglobal.net>>
>> Sent: Feb 12, 2016 9:25 PM
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: [VFB] Jimmy D
>> 
>> I'll join the crowd.  My 'rejection notice' said that his Earthlink mail 
>> box had exceeded its limit.
>> 
>> My sister had Earthlink before she passed away and ALWAYS had trouble.  
>> JD needs to get a more reliable carrier.
> EITHER THAT OR NEW BRAIN.
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[VFB] Jimmy D

[Alan Di Somma]

Jimmy:

I sent a reply to your email at Rayado, but it gets bounced back to me saying 
that mail was undeliverable to “Bigtroutman”

What is happening?


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[VFB] Walker

[Alan Di Somma]

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Re: [VFB] Parkinsons

[Alan Di Somma]

I am up for that.

What say Jimmy?


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> On Feb 6, 2016, at 1:25 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
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> 
> Alan,
> Maybe you guys can make the Sowbug in April.
> Tony
> 
> 
> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 2:15 PM, Alan Di Somma  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Jimmy:
> 
> I should be in Texas around the first of April for the grandsons birthday, 
> for a week or so.
> 
> Would really like to come and visit?
> 
> 
> phxflytyer
> Phoenix,AZ
> 
> 
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> take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian."
> Henry Ford
> 
>> On Feb 6, 2016, at 12:39 PM, ray...@earthlink.net 
>> <mailto:ray...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm still hanging in there with a light case of Parkinsons. The only 
>> problems I have are "light weight tremors" Not much twitching at all.  Would 
>> be great hearing from ya'll and being able to wade. Next spring, maybe if 
>> the Meds keep improving.  They have so far! can walk fairly  well with a 
>> Cane when needed.  Working on "Super Walker"for very shallow streams like 
>> the Rayado at Philmont.
>> 
>> Looking forward to hearing from you.
>> 
>> JIMMYD
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Re: [VFB] Parkinsons

[Alan Di Somma]

Jimmy:

I should be in Texas around the first of April for the grandsons birthday, for 
a week or so.

Would really like to come and visit?


phxflytyer
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> On Feb 6, 2016, at 12:39 PM, ray...@earthlink.net wrote:
> 
> I'm still hanging in there with a light case of Parkinsons. The only problems 
> I have are "light weight tremors" Not much twitching at all.  Would be great 
> hearing from ya'll and being able to wade. Next spring, maybe if the Meds 
> keep improving.  They have so far! can walk fairly  well with a Cane when 
> needed.  Working on "Super Walker"for very shallow streams like the Rayado at 
> Philmont.
> 
> Looking forward to hearing from you.
> 
> JIMMYD
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[VFB] Happy Thanksgiving from Phoenix

[Alan Di Somma]

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> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bad Parrot
> 
> A young man named John received a parrot as a gift. The parrot had a bad
> attitude and an even worse vocabulary.
> 
> Every word out of the bird's mouth was rude, obnoxious and laced with
> profanity. John tried and tried to change the bird's attitude by consistently 
> saying only polite words, playing soft music and anything else he could
> think of to 'clean up' the bird's vocabulary.
> 
> Finally, John was fed up and he yelled at the parrot. The parrot yelled
> back. John shook the parrot and the parrot got angrier and even more rude.
> John, in desperation, threw up his hands, grabbed the bird and put him in 
> the freezer.
> 
> For a few minutes the parrot squawked and kicked and screamed. Then
> suddenly there was total quiet. Not a peep was heard for over a minute.
> 
> Fearing that he'd hurt the parrot, John quickly opened the door to the
> freezer. The parrot calmly stepped out onto John's outstretched arms 
> and said "I believe I may have offended you with my rude language and 
> actions.  I'm sincerely remorseful for my inappropriate transgressions and 
> I fully intend to do everything I can to correct my rude and 
> unforgivable behavior."
> 
> John was stunned at the change in the bird's attitude.
> 
> As he was about to ask the parrot what had made such a dramatic change 
> in his behavior, the bird spoke-up, very softly, "May I ask what the turkey
> did?"
> 
> *Happy Thanksgiving*
> 
>  
> 
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Re: [VFB] Some days.... Alan

[Alan Di Somma]

Good one Don…..



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> On Nov 17, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Don Ordes  wrote:
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> Alan, no, this is after a fly tier...
>  
> 
>  
> DonO
>  
>  
> From: Phxflytyer <mailto:phxflyt...@cox.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 12:35 PM
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> Subject: Re: [VFB] Some days
>  
> Or a fly tyer?
> 
>  
> Sent from my iPad
>  
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Phoenix, AZ.
>  
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>  
>  
> 
> On Nov 17, 2015, at 12:05 PM, "Don Ordes"  <mailto:f...@tribcsp.com>> wrote:
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>> Does it feel like the tax man just can’t get much more?
>>  
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Re: [VFB] Fwd: More or Less?

[Alan Di Somma]

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Henry Ford

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Allan Fish  wrote:
> 
> This brings to mind a couple of interesting (at least they are to me) stories.
> 
> 1. Our club used to go up to Michigan to fish for trout in the Ausable River. 
>  In the summer, there was allways a big 'canoe hatch'.  We'd come in at night 
> and there would be a bunch of the guys griping about the canoe hatch.  I told 
> them I enjoyed the canoe hatch.  I would throw a weighted nymph in right 
> behind the canoe as the would go past (sometimes sideways) and usually catch 
> a trout. My theory was that the unskilled paddlers were stirring up the 
> bottom and the fish would key in on the goodies that they stirred up.   I 
> don't think I ever converted anyone to my tactic.Sounds like a variation of 
> the San Juan Shuffle?
> 
> 2.  One time I took my wife up there.  We were fishing the South Branch.  
> Three guys came up to the stream and the older guy started yelling and 
> cussing that we were fishing "in MY spot"!  That was not too long after I had 
> my first knee replacement and was still walking with a cane (which, by the 
> way, makes a good wading staff).  I refused to move.  And that S.O.B. (silly 
> old boy) got into the stream and stomped right up the middle through where we 
> were fishing, still yelling and cussing, while his son was yelling back at 
> him saying, "Dad, CALM DOWN."  We left and I haven't fished that stream since.
> 
> So I've got mixed emotions.  If that's how Michiganders treat folks who pay 
> about 10 times what they do for a fishing license, they can keep their 
> over-fished streams.  However, if I ever go up there with a group again, I'll 
> hope for a good canoe hatch.  
> 
> af
> 
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Re: [VFB] QFTD

[Alan Di Somma]

Thats the way I feel about fishing lately.

Just being out there is reward enough.

Glad to see you are getting out.


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> On Oct 27, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Allan Fish  wrote:
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> On 10/27/15 10:52 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
>> "With appreciation of all the wonders of nature to be seen, smelled, or 
>> heard on any trip outdoors, the importance of the bag grows less."
> Great quote.
> 
> I spent the afternoon floating the local river with two friends on Friday and 
> didn't get a single bump, let alone actually catching a fish.
> 
> And I enjoyed the heck out of it.  
> 
> It was a beautiful day, I saw some neat critters (herons, kingfishers), my 
> buddy caught a huge smallmouth, and Jeff Conrad, the guide, rowed his 
> ultra-comfortable rubber fishing raft.  The autumn scenery was gorgeous. It 
> was a truly delightful day. 
> 
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Re: [VFB] SALTWATER SWAP

[Alan Di Somma]

In the mail today.


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> On Oct 4, 2015, at 6:32 AM, Peggy Brenner  wrote:
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> Address for the Saltwater Swap is, 266 N River Rd, Milford, NH 03055
> 
> Peggy
> 
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Phxflytyer  <mailto:phxflyt...@cox.net>> wrote:
> Peggy:
> 
> I have my flies ready to go.
> May I have your address, please.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Phoenix, AZ.
> 
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 15, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Peggy Brenner  <mailto:ladyflyt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Flies due October 31 and only 6 saltwater  swappers. A NEW due date~ 
>> 
>> 1 Peggy Brenner EP redfish 
>> 2 Alan Di Somma Rattling Red Fish Clouser var.
>> 3 Bob Hendry 
>> 4 Ashley Strutt 
>> 5 Al Fish Electric Chicken Clouser
>> 6 Jack Harford Gurgler type
>> 
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Re: [VFB] IFFF Faire and vfb and Swap announcement

[Alan Di Somma]

Well Peggy, I guess it is just you and I.

How many shall we tie?   LOL


phxflytyer
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> On Aug 17, 2015, at 6:34 PM, ladyflytyer  wrote:
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> 
> 
> 
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> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S
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> 
>  Original message 
> From: ladyflytyer  
> Date: 08/16/2015 7:18 AM (GMT-08:00) 
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: IFFF Faire and vfb and Swap announcement 
> 
> I met with Wes Wada and J Balmer at the Faire in Bend OR. It's always nice to 
> put faces to the members. We also talked about a swap so here goes
> 
> RED FISH FLIES, DEADLINE OCTOBER 15 and10 spots
> 
> 1 Peggy Brenner
> 2
> E
> 4
> 5
> 6
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> 8
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> Heading East today
> 
> Peggy
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> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S
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Re: [VFB] Test photo

[Alan Di Somma]

I for one will certainly enjoy that.


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> On Mar 21, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Peggy Brenner  wrote:
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> I'm going to be taking pictures for the list at Sowbug, but I only have one 
> email address set up on my smart phone.  This way those who can't make it can 
> then enjoy virtually this year.
> 
> Peggy
> 
> On 3/21/2015 9:19 AM, J Balmer wrote:
>> Looks like a photo of some nice streamers, where’s the test?
>> 
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Re: [VFB] SowBug Roundup 2015

[Alan Di Somma]

Then leave it home and borrow a rod from someone there.
It is a win-win for everyone…..

I sure wish I could be there again.

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> On Mar 17, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Scott Bearden  wrote:
> 
> This is how it works: If I bring my fishing gear the river will be a raging 
> torrent and completely unfishable. If I leave my gear at home, it will be the 
> best 3 days of fishing all year long. Story of my life.
> 
> Scott
> 
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:33 AM, 'TONY SPEZIO' via VFB Mail 
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> They have been good for the past few days.
> Tony
> 
> Peggy Brenner mailto:peggy.bren...@comcast.net>> 
> wrote:
> 
> >WE are already in Bull Shoals, the water levels are good for fishing
> >this year!
> >
> >Peggy
> >
> >On 3/17/2015 7:47 AM, 'TONY SPEZIO' via VFB Mail wrote:
> >> We will miss you.
> >>
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> >>> Starting to feel sad about not going this year, always a good time and 
> >>> just feels like spring always  arrives when I return home.
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Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??

[Alan Di Somma]

Marty:

Tnx. That one looks very user friendly.
I have one of their bobbins and I use it almost exclusively.
It was very expensive but I believe it is well worth it because I use it so 
much and feels good while you are using it.
I’ll bet the hackle pliers are that good also?


phxflytyer
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> On Mar 13, 2015, at 5:43 PM, MartinWestbeek  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> Here’s a link to the (Japanse) website.
> http://www.c-and-f.co.jp/c_and_f_e/flytyingtool/flytyingtool/f_tool/cft_140.html
>  
> <http://www.c-and-f.co.jp/c_and_f_e/flytyingtool/flytyingtool/f_tool/cft_140.html>
>  
> They are expensive (maybe $ 30 or so) but if mine would break, I’d get a new 
> one right away.
>  
> Mart
>  
> Van: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>] Namens 
> Alan Di Somma
> Verzonden: zaterdag 14 maart 2015 01:36
> Aan: VFB List
> Onderwerp: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
>  
> Marty:
>  
> Could you post a pic of the C&F plier?
>  
>  
> phxflytyer
> Phoenix,AZ
>  
>  
>  "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government 
> take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian."
> Henry Ford
>  
>> On Mar 13, 2015, at 5:13 PM, MartinWestbeek > <mailto:martinwestb...@planet.nl>> wrote:
>>  
>> Yup. I have the C&F hackle pliers and they help me tie parachutes when the 
>> hackle is getting small. Great tool!
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 6:56 AM
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
>>  
>> Allan give Chuck a break. LOL
>> A rotary vise is useless for winding parachute hackles. The swivel hackle 
>> pliers is the way to go on them. That is all I have used for about 25 years. 
>> The long handle one is the best for that. I can show what I mean at the 
>> show., Gee now I am picking on you. LOL I am in a good mood this morning.
>> BTW, the poppers are finished and you can pick them up at the Sowbug.
>> Tony
>>  
>> 
>> On Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16 AM, Chuck Alexander 
>> mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> 
>> Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I 
>> already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the 
>> “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam 
>> spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck
>>  
>> From: Neville Gosling <mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>
>> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
>>  
>> Chuck: 
>>  
>> I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to 
>> bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both 
>> sizes anyhow. 
>> Oh, I'm still laughing 😃
>>  
>> Neville (Nev) Gosling
>> 
>> "A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted"
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>> On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander 
>>> mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead 
>>> and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and 
>>> the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of 
>>> the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of 
>>> tea or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used 
>>> to tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out 
>>> if he was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I 
>>> own I hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to 
>>> all, Chuck
>>>  
>>> From: Joyce M Westphal <mailto:joyce...@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM
>>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
>>>  
>>> I hav

Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??

[Alan Di Somma]

Marty:

Could you post a pic of the C&F plier?


phxflytyer
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> On Mar 13, 2015, at 5:13 PM, MartinWestbeek  wrote:
> 
> Yup. I have the C&F hackle pliers and they help me tie parachutes when the 
> hackle is getting small. Great tool!
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 6:56 AM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
>  
> Allan give Chuck a break. LOL
> A rotary vise is useless for winding parachute hackles. The swivel hackle 
> pliers is the way to go on them. That is all I have used for about 25 years. 
> The long handle one is the best for that. I can show what I mean at the 
> show., Gee now I am picking on you. LOL I am in a good mood this morning.
> BTW, the poppers are finished and you can pick them up at the Sowbug.
> Tony
>  
> 
> On Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16 AM, Chuck Alexander 
> mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net>> 
> wrote:
>  
> 
> Well, since Allan reminded me that since I have a rotary vise, in theory I 
> already have rotating hackle pliers, and since I hadn’t actually hit the 
> “order” button, I just deleted the pliers and jacked up the number of foam 
> spider bodies I ordered which I KNOW I use all the time LOL.. Chuck
>  
> From: Neville Gosling 
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:41 AM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
>  
> Chuck: 
>  
> I can't help but laugh, we have been delicately trying to tell you not to 
> bother because we hardly ever use rotary hackle pliers, but you bought both 
> sizes anyhow. 
> Oh, I'm still laughing 😃
>  
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> 
> "A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted"
>  
>  
>  
>  
>> On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Chuck Alexander 
>> mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> Well, since these are so cheap, ($3.45 and $4.45 respectively) I went ahead 
>> and ordered two pair as one has a short handle of about 1 1/2” I think and 
>> the other has a 4 1/2” handle with a built in half hitch tool on the end of 
>> the handle. Guess it’s the only way I can find out of they are my cup of tea 
>> or not. My Daddy did a lot of mechanic work his whole life and he used to 
>> tell me “Son, you can’t have too many tools” LOL.. Guess I’ll find out if he 
>> was right. In my mechanics tool box and my tool shed, most tools I own I 
>> hardly ever use , but when I need them I REALLY need them. Thanks to all, 
>> Chuck
>>  
>> From: Joyce M Westphal 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:05 PM
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: [VFB] Rotary Hackle Pliers??
>>  
>> I have some, rarely use them, but don't usually use this kind of hackle 
>> pliers tip as I find  it breaks the hackle more often than the standard 
>> pliers tips that come together.  I think it is just a matter of preference. 
>>  
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Neville Gosling > > wrote:
>> 
>> My favourite hackle pliers in most circumstances 
>>  
>> Neville (Nev) Gosling
>> Greater Vancouver
>> BC  Canada
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>> On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Alexander 
>>> mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Folks: I’m getting a fly tying materials order and have always wanted to 
>>> try a pair of Rotary Hackle Pliers. Do they work  good?? Are they better 
>>> than regular hackle pliers. Only problem I foresee is that after you wrap 
>>> the hackle, those rotary pliers will hang down a lot farther than normal 
>>> hackle pliers, making getting your lock in thread wraps behind the hackle 
>>> would be harder to do than using reg. hackle pliers. Am I missing something 
>>> there?? Thanks for any pros or cons. They are only $3.45 from Stockard, 
>>> which is the place I’m ordering from, but if I’ll never use them, that’s 
>>> $3.45 I could use on something I will use. Chuck
>>>  
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Re: [VFB] testing

[Alan Di Somma]

Had an absolutely great day fishing today with two fishing buddies.

Not a cloud in the sky and every once in a while a little breeze came up.

Not enough to cause any problems in our pontoon boats.

One guy got two nice small mouth bass but the other two of us did not get 
anything.


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> On Feb 18, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Reuven Segal  wrote:
> 
> OK.This will be the longest material swap in the history of fly fishing. 
> Fingers crossed!
> 
> On 19/02/2015 1:36 AM, Don Ordes wrote:
>> Reuven, I’ll take anything from the south pole I can get, emperor, king, 
>> seal.
>> Yes the deal is still on for the 14/0 FF. 
>> But get me an emperor pelt (black and white, yellow-orange neck) and I’ll 
>> make you a 19/0 shark-hook fly. (the giant mega-flies)  I need the white 
>> feathers to use as is and also to dye. I need the yellow feathers for salmon 
>> flies.
>>  
>> DonO
>>  
>> From: Reuven Segal 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 10:23 PM
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: [VFB] testing
>>  
>> Hi DonO:
>> 
>> I have been busy chasing your TriPolar materials. My landlord will return in 
>> two weeks and has offered to get some king Penguin (Sh) from a PhD 
>> researcher who just happens to hang around them alot. Cannot promise 
>> anything but...Don't forget I was promised a desk mount 
>> of your giant fly if I came up with the goodswas there a statute 
>> of limitations on it?
>> 
>> R
>> 
>> On 18/02/2015 4:14 PM, Don Ordes wrote:
>>> Haven’t seen a  post in days. Anyone there?
>>>  
>>> DonO
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Re: [VFB] Fly rod spinnerbait

[Alan Di Somma]

If you use a small barrel swivel in line, you will eliminate line twist.
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> On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:46 PM, 'Wayne C Blake Hedges' via VFB Mail 
>  wrote:
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> Dang auto correct!   Should read Fly tiers dungeon micro bug legs and ready 
> made spinner bait form from Jann's Netcraft
> 
> Wayneb
> 
> On January 11, 2015, at 10:40 PM, Neville Gosling  > wrote:
> 
> What is a "Winnebago form as 1" - the wire? I had a friend who put a small 
> propellor in front of a bucktail fly when fishing the sea for coho (Silver) 
> salmon. Had to stop and let his fly line untwist after a short time.
> 
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> Greater Vancouver
> BC  Canada
> 
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2015, at 6:45 PM, 'Wayne C Blake Hedges' via VFB Mail 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All;
>> 
>> Always wanted to make these, this one uses micro bug legs from flutters 
>> dungeon, size 6 mustard 3366 hook, medium yellow crystal flash chenille,and 
>> a Winnebago form as 1 from Janns Netcraft.
>> 
>> Wayneb
>> 
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Re: [VFB] Doug.jpg (JPEG Image, 705x529 pixels)

[Alan Di Somma]

Jimmy…send them to me also please.


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> On Dec 20, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
> 
> Jimmy,
> I'd love to see yr pics. 
> Al
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 20, 2014, at 2:09 PM, Jimmy D. Moore  > wrote:
> 
>> Another pic of Danny and me.  Sangre de Christo mountains in background.  
>> The other guy
>> is Doug Palmer, Dir of  Camping at philmont.  We had just finished Giant 
>> Buffalo T-Bones.
>> I have other pics of Danny if you'd care to see them.  Just let me know off 
>> line.
>> JIMMYD
>> 
>> file:///C:/Users/Jim Moore/Pictures/Philmont 9-04/Doug.jpg 
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Re: [VFB] Denny Conrad - A tribute from Jimmy D and Jeff Hines

[Alan Di Somma]

Way to go Jimmy.

You and Denny are some of my best friends.

As a former scout, I still remember many of my scouting mottos and live by 
…..BE PREPARED…..

Thanks for the great story.



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> On Dec 18, 2014, at 5:17 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
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> 
> This is the first I have heard of this.
> Thanks Jimmy.
> Tony
> 
> 
> On Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:14 PM, Allan Fish  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Jimmy,
> You brought a bit of a tear to my eye. 
> You're a good man, Jimmy!
> al
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 18, 2014, at 7:12 PM, Jimmy D. Moore  > wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Gang!
> 
> I'm sure you're aware that Denny Conrad passed away last week.  Denny was one 
> heck of a nice guy. I met him at Sow Bug and later invited him to spend a 
> week with me at Philmont Scout Ranch fishing for rainbow trout in the Rayado, 
> my favorite little river.  Denny was my guest and all his expenses were 
> waived because I put him on the Philmont Fishing Committee.  All Denny had to 
> do was pay his way to and from his home in Washington.  He took the bus.  I 
> picked him up at 4:00 a.m. at the Raton, NM at an all night restaurant. Ugh!
> 
> Denny wasn't aware of my ultimate purpose in getting him to Philmont, but 
> Jeff Hines was.  You see, Denny lost his Eagle Scoout badge back in 1941 but 
> never said too much about it.  Anyway Jeff let me know  and I suggested we 
> get another Eagle and re-present it during the week at Philmont.  Jeff, who 
> lives in Carrollton, TX  and I got with National BSA and they checked it out 
> and all was kosher, so they sent the Eagle Badge to me.  I presented it to 
> Denny at the opening banquet of the Fishing Invitational. Blew Denny totally 
> away.  It was a very moving experience for all of us,  Denny was spechless. 
> 
> Yours in Scouting,
> 
> JIMMY D 
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Re: [VFB] FFF Fly Fair

[Alan Di Somma]

He must be on his best behavior then.hahahahaha!



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> Had a pleasant afternoon and evening with Allan Fish yesterday. We will be 
> tying at the FFF Fly Fair today and tomorrow.
> Arkansas Tony
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Re: [VFB] Are Fish Intelligent?

[Alan Di Somma]

I have fished the San Juan River in N.M. and I believe those fish have been 
caught several times each, so they come in quickly because they know they will 
be released.

Maybe they have a memory? Maybe they are trained? They bunk against your legs 
so that you move quickly and stir up the bottom thereby causing the "SAN JUAN 
SHUFFLE"

I don't know if they are smart or trainable?


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On Sep 12, 2014, at 6:20 PM, J Balmer  wrote:

> While I agreed w/ most of the points presented, there is some anecdotal 
> evidence of learned behavior in some fish species, & predators in particular 
> seem to possess greater intelligence than bait fish. I truly believe that the 
> reason we catch more juvenile fish is more than just because there are more 
> of them. Why, for instance, will a more mature fish spend more time observing 
> a lure or fly before taking action, including backing away? The more time you 
> spend studying fish in their habitat, the better  your chances of enticing 
> said piscatorial foe into catching a lure, and "out thinking" is an overused 
> term in that regard but that doesn't mean that fish don't learn.
>  
> J
>  
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
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> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:54 PM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Are Fish Intelligent?
>  
> Virtual Fly Box Collaborators - I would be interested on your feedback on 
> this article published in the Armchair Angler a few months back.  Tight 
> lines..
>  
> Are Fish Intelligent?  . . . or are Fishermen Stupid?
>  
> Fly Fishers through the ages have allotted great intelligence to fish in 
> general and the harder it is to catch a fish the smarter it must be.  However 
> the question remains, "are the fish really smart or are the fishers dumb."  
> Since few people are able to accept or admit that they are not intelligent 
> (in some area) they tend rather to accredit great intelligence to the prey 
> and grant themselves the title of "even more intelligent" when they happen to 
> land a fish. 
>  
> If one admits that a fish has but a pea sized brain and relatively simple 
> cognitive skills, they must also recognize that, though humans have a 
> grapefruit size brain and complex cognitive thought processes, we often 
> remain quite stupid when it comes to thinking like a fish.
>  
> Some fishermen have interesting irrational thought patterns like:
> "That looks like a nice spot I'll fish here."
> "I think this is a beautiful fly, so I'm sure the fish will like it too.
> "Wow . . . That is a beautiful fly rod, if I have one of those I'll bet I can 
> catch a lot of fish with it."
> "I caught a fish."
>  
> I would surmise that the only ones who have "caught" a fish with a rod and 
> reel are the ones snagging fish in low water with a bare treble hook on the 
> end of the line.  In all other instances the fisher did NOT catch a fish; 
> rather the fish caught the fly. Fly rods, no matter how beautiful or 
> expensive do not catch fish; fish catch flies.  It makes little difference if 
> the fisher thinks his flies are beautiful; it only matters if the fish thinks 
> the fly is food or is endangering their space.  There are many beautiful 
> stretches of water that contain very few fish - the old 80/20 rule - 80% of 
> the fish are in 20% of the water (or even 90/10).
>  
> What matters to the fish are three things:
> ·Food - is there a source of nourishment
> ·Shelter - am I safe here
> ·Oxygen - can I breathe freely
> Fish are very sensitive to these three things . . . sometimes very sensitive. 
> And maybe a fourth would be reproduction. They are very sensitive to their 
> spawning time.  The author's opinion is that these sensitivities are not so 
> much learned through intelligence, but are the God given instincts that all 
> fish are imbued with.
>  
> The fish have an instinctive ability to perceive if they are safe or on 
> danger.  They will avoid places and situations where they feel unsafe and 
> gravitate to places where they feel safe and protected; we call these places 
> structure.
>  
> The fish have an instinctive ability to sense how much dissolved oxygen in in 
> the water. If they cannot breathe freely they will look for a place where the 
> water has greater oxygen content, like below a riffle, in colder water, or 
> beneath waves.
>  
> And fish instinctively know when they are hungry, what items are food, and 
> maybe, and this may be a stretch, even which will give them the most protein 
> for the effort it takes to catch that food.  Sometimes when fishers say, "the 
> fish are so smart today and won't take any of my flies," the fact of the 
> matter may be that they are not feeding at that time of the day.
>  
> Since fishers 

Re: [VFB] Jimmy

[Alan Di Somma]

I have also.


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On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:47 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail 
 wrote:

> I do too.
> Tony
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 12:19 PM, Jimmy D. Moore  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> :-D I have children older than you.
> 
> JIM
> 
> Ed Roden wrote:
>> I'm a young guy at 46
>> 
>> Ed Roden
>> Email: flyfished at gmail dot com
>> Twitter: @flyfished
>> mittenstateangler.com
>> Henrietta Lange: The true test of a commander is when he is as frightened 
>> and confused as those who look up to him. In that moment, when you can't 
>> find it in yourself, you will find it in them. That's leadership.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 2:28 PM, J Balmer  wrote:
>> Surprisingly, about 30% are under 60...
>>  
>> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Allan Fish
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 12:35 PM
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [VFB] Jimmy
>>  
>> Jimmy, 
>> 
>> Average age as of now = 62-1/3
>> 
>> Change Salty's last name to Harriman
>> Change "Harrig" to Bob Haering
>> 
>> We're a-gettin' there.
>> 
>> Take care of that hand.
>> 
>> Al - one of the old farts.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> d to me Off List if need be..
>> 
>>What's the average age now.  Lots of Old Farts
>> 
>> JIMMY D
>> 
>> JIMMY D  77  AGE MEISTER  
>> Tony Spezio --85 
>> Denny Conrad--79 3/4 
>> <>Allan fish--78 
>> Don Ordes - 63 
>> Peggy Brenner - 65 
>> Nev Gosling - 68 
>> Wayne Blake-Hedges - 54 
>> Jerry Caruso - 66 
>> Dan harrington - 63 
>> Reuven Segal - 38 
>> Ron Boutin - 64 
>> Alan Di somma - 71 
>> Walter Shockley - 65 
>> Gary Webb - 67 
>> Jimi - Desert Eagle - 57 
>> Joyce Wetphal -73 
>> J Balmer - 61 
>> Mel Hocken - agless ,
>>  Bob Hendry - 70 
>> Rene 59  Jack 45, 
>> Rick 64,
>> Thomas 70,
>>  Brian 62,
>> Scott 37, 
>> Gary 67
>> Bruce 45  Michael 66
>> Morger 53
>> Haerig 57
>> Hans 60
>>  Dan
>>  Jack
>>  Jeff 54
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> AND THE LIST GROWS AND GROWS.
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Re: [VFB] Tenkara Anyone?

[Alan Di Somma]

FREE FOOD but I wouldn't eat those eel's.

My dad used to go out on a party boat after work on Friday nights and come back 
just around dawn with Blue fish they caught.
I hated that also. Very oily and fishy tasting.


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On Aug 11, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> Alan (who needs another L in his name) said:
>> When you are poor and don't have any expendable cash, you find ways to make 
>> what you want.
> 
> But we didn't realize we were poor. Nobody else had any money either. You did 
> with what you had or could get for next to nothing. I think bamboo 'poles' 
> (actually just long bamboo stalks) were about 2 or 3 bucks back then.
> 
> And did we catch fish? Yes. During WWII, that was 'free' food.
> 
> a.
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Re: [VFB] Tenkara Anyone?

[Alan Di Somma]

Back in the early 50's, my father actually made three bamboo surf rods from 
straight bamboo.
He tied the guides on and the Penn reel was held on with hose clamps. 
The handle was nothing more then black electrical tape rapped around the base.
I actually remember him catching eels in the Hudson River.
We took them down the Jersey Shore and used them in the surf.

When you are poor and don't have any  expendable cash, you find ways to make 
what you want.


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> 
> 
>> Truth be told, I was referring to split cane rods. How can one expect to 
>> catch fish on straight bamboo?
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Re: [VFB] Are we too Old? SURVEY

[Alan Di Somma]

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On Aug 5, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Jimmy D. Moore  wrote:

> Ok, young and old farts, (VFB'ers). lets do one of My well known VFB surveys. 
>  OK?? Could be fun. 
>  Add your name.  Could also liven things up a little and age below:
> JIMMY D
> 
>  Just fall in line, don't be embarrassed . :-! 
> Jimmy D. 77 :-P 
> Tony Spezio --
> Denny Conrad--
> Allan fish--
Alan Di Somma 71
> AND THE LIST GROWS AND GROWS.
> 
> Allan Fish wrote:
>> On 8/5/14, 9:16 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
>>> 
>>> Guess you are saying I am onew of the old guys, since I am on VFB.
>>> 
>>> Rick
>> 
>> 
>> No, Rick,
>> 
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Re: [VFB] a vision...

[Alan Di Somma]

Probably ate something bad..LOL


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On Jun 27, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Don Ordes  wrote:

> I was looking out the window of my office and there, in a cloud formation, 
> was Buggs, with his arm up and a jet-stream trail that looked like a fishing 
> line connected to a large rainbow trout.
>  
> Was this a message? What does it mean?
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Re: [VFB] test

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Ain't that the truth Bob?


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On May 17, 2014, at 3:38 PM, Bob Hendry  wrote:

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> 5x or loud and clear.  Love your signature line . . .
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> The good you do today will be forgotten tomorrow. 
> Do good anyway.
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[VFB] test

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Re: [VFB] Kinda quiet this afternoon!

[Alan Di Somma]

You big bully..D & R 

Alan


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> when I got
> back on ther air, haven't heard a Peep since :-P
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Re: [VFB] Spam test

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AMEN!!!



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Re: [VFB] test

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Still testing are we?



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Re: [VFB] Hi everybody.

[Alan Di Somma]

Jimmy:

I haven't been back to Texas since Thanksgiving and I sure miss being there.

I am in the process of buying a new house and should have the closing later 
this month. I guess it will take a while before I get everything up to par, so 
I hope I can gt back for Jacks birthday in Sept.

Sure do miss our time together. We have to get together on my next visit.

Alan


On May 8, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Jimmy D. Moore  wrote:

> Same here, Alan.  We need to get together again, soon.
> 
> JIMMY  D
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>> Glad to see you are back. I for one surely missed you.
>> 
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>> 
>> Thank You,
>> Alan Di Somma
>> Phoenix, AZ.
>> 
>> If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not
>> for being in the country illegally ...you might live in a country founded by 
>> geniuses but run by idiots.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Jimmy D. Moore
>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 9:02 AM
>> To: Virtual Fly Box
>> Subject: [VFB] Hi everybody.
>> 
>> Hope is well with you, has been a chines fire drill for me. I will send
>> more good  stuff laier.
>> 
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Re: [VFB] Bobbin

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Send me one and I will try it again>

I do like the C&F bobbin. Not an aout, but it really feels good in your hand.

Alan


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> Jerry,
> 
> It just goes to show that if you ask 100 people, you'll get 100 different 
> opinions.
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> I think the Nor-bobbins are the best.  
> 
> Allan
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> 
> 
> On 5/8/14, 3:34 PM, 'J Mck' via VFB Mail wrote:
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>> The Rite Bobbins are the best
>>  
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>> P.O. Box 9104 
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>> www.caddisflyfishers.org
>> On Thursday, May 8, 2014 2:30 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
>> On 5/8/14, 3:16 PM, Baz wrote:
>> > hi, you wrote that"Nor vise bobbin, could not get the hang of 
>> > it,".What it means?  I was thinking to buy Norvise or Erich 
>> > bobbin(expensive) for rewind purposes. I used and have and had C&F, 
>> > Master bobbin of TMC, regular one and Griffins etc and resold them all 
>> > and kept master bobbin of TMC with 3 tube head. I think if you do not 
>> > use them, you don't fill the right one. I saw rite bobbin too, but did 
>> > not use it. http://handcraftedbybazlur.com/
>> 
>> 
>> Baz,
>> 
>> Unlike Denny, I DO like the Norvise bobbin.  The ONLY trick to it is 
>> remembering to "stop" the end of the bobbin before you cut the thread 
>> off the fly.  Otherwise you'll spend all day re-threading the bobbin.
>> 
>> I picked up some rite bobbins recently and really don't care for them.  
>> They're going in the club auction next spring.
>> 
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Re: [VFB] test

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Yes Jimmy. You are getting out.


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Re: [VFB] Vise repair question

[Alan Di Somma]

Epoxy?


On May 7, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Robert Morger  wrote:

> I have a Regal Inex vise that the lever for opening the jaw is always coming 
> loose. Anyone have any experience with how to repair it
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Re: [VFB] Gorgeous day

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Glad to see you are finally out of the snow.YUCK!

You have got to get out more often. It does the soul good.

Alan


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> Gorgeous day here in Indiana.  Took an Arborist friend from Indpls down to 
> the southern part of the county to an orchard he'd never heard of which is 
> owned by a friend who used to work with me.  He was VERY impressed.  She has 
> over 7,000 apple trees, plus peaches, strawberries, raspberries, etc.  We 
> found her in the greenhouse and ended up buying some plants.  I mentioned we 
> were going over to a DNR site to try to tease a fish or two.  She said, 
> "These two ponds over there (pointing) have a ton of fish if you'd like to 
> fish here.  But."  I spoke up and said, "We're strictly catch and 
> release."  She said good.
> 
> We caught a ton of fish.  The ONLY fly that worked well I'll have to call the 
> Ziegerbug. It's a bug that Rick Zieger sent me.  Rick's bug has speckled 
> rubber legs.  I didn't have any, so I tied some of them with solid rubber 
> that I had marked with a Sharpie. It looks like most of the Sharpie wore off 
> after catching so many bluegills.  (1st attachment)  I don't know what Rick 
> tied the body with, but I used black ice dub body with mallard feather tail 
> and a duck-quill wing case.  Weight was 1/8" brass bead on a size 10 94840 
> hook.
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> I out-fished my buddy, but he took the cake with a 11+ inch bluegill.  
> Gorgeous fish.  (2nd attachment).  It looks kinda small in his hands, but he 
> is 6-10" tall and the rest of his body is proportional.  His hands are huge.
> 
> It was good to actually feel the tug of a different fish on the OTHER end of 
> the rod again.
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Re: [VFB] Quiet night

[Alan Di Somma]

I hope you are going fishing and not into the bath room to wet the 
lineDAR!



On May 2, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> Not much happenin' on VFB tonight, is there?
> 
> HA!  Since I wrote that Chuck's note popped up!
> I'll add a different topic than Chuck's note.
> 
> Things are actually looking up.  It looks like I'm actually going to wet a 
> line tomorrow!
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> WHOOPEE!
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> Allan
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Re: [VFB] Test

[Alan Di Somma]

Weel i see that I am getting out.
I tried earlier to send from my iPad and the emails didn't send.

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Re: [VFB] Anybody out there? need some advice

[Alan Di Somma]

I am getting you Jimmy. I am on my Mac, because my PC crashed and it is costing 
me $250 to get the data recovered.
I downloaded a virus from what I thought was a trusted site to download a 
rebate form for my contact lenses. 
Turns out it was a virus that I downloaded.YUCK


On Apr 10, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Jimmy D. Moore  wrote:

> This MSoft thing is giving me headaches. :-[  :-( 
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Re: [VFB] Re: thread diameters

[Alan Di Somma]

Perhaps the best way would be by breaking strength?


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> On Feb 24, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Paul  wrote:
> 
> I suppose I should keep my nose out of this but that's impossible. You can't 
> measure thread diameter, it's meaningless. You have threads that are flat 
> nylon, others that are twisted, others with multiplies, etc., etc. (what's 
> the diameter of a flat thread?). This was the problem with the X/0 system, it 
> had no standard. For a long time most respoolers played more or less fair and 
> advertised numbers that at least gave some relative idea of "size." Then, 
> along came a bunch that decided to game the system like Benecchi. They put 
> numbers like 12/0 on threads that were the same (same thread manufacturer) as 
> other respoolers 8/0. So all of sudden you could throw the X/0 system in the 
> crapper. The only reasonable approach is Denier or Decitex, both 
> weight/length measures.  And even here the relative "size" is only "accurate" 
> when referring to the same material. My little booklet, "How to Choose and 
> Use Fly-tying Thread" explains this and gives a correlation for UNI-Threads. 
> Paul
> 
>> On Sunday, February 23, 2014 1:21:49 AM UTC-4, wayne...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All;
>> 
>> Anyone know how 00 & 0 size thread compares to 8/0 or 6/0 tying thread?
>> 
>> Wayneb
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Re: [VFB] RE: thread diameters

[Alan Di Somma]

That should have read" SPLAIN"


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> On Feb 23, 2014, at 5:25 PM, Alan Di Somma  wrote:
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> It does. Pleases plain better.
> 
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> Sent from my iPad
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> 
>> On Feb 23, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2/23/14, 10:42 AM, wayneb22...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> I wish manufacturers would list the actual diameter of thread but, I guess 
>>> that would be asking too much!
>>> 
>>> I can't think of how to measure it myself without compressing it, perhaps a 
>>> tippet gauge?
>> Wayne,
>> 
>> That's what makes the "Denier" system a tad better.  It's a true 
>> measurement, I think.  Although I could have been lead astray.
>> 
>> IF I remember right (always a problem any more) 140 denier is fairly 
>> equivalent to the old 3/0 (think Danville prewaxed).  6/0 was in the area of 
>> 80 denier, 8/0 in the area of 60 denier.  The higher the denier, the heavier 
>> the thread.
>> 
>> Here's the definition of "denier" I found on the internet.:
>> A unit of fineness for rayon, nylon, and silk fibers, based on 
>> a standard mass per length of 1 gram per 9,000 meters of yarn.
>> So all you have to do is take 9,000 meters (5.6 miles) of yarn and weigh it.
>> 
>> Of course the tensile strength is highly dependent on the material used to 
>> make the thread.
>> 
>>  I hope this hasn't totally muddled the issue.
>> 
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Re: [VFB] RE: thread diameters

[Alan Di Somma]

It does. Pleases plain better.


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> On Feb 23, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
> 
>> On 2/23/14, 10:42 AM, wayneb22...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I wish manufacturers would list the actual diameter of thread but, I guess 
>> that would be asking too much!
>> 
>> I can't think of how to measure it myself without compressing it, perhaps a 
>> tippet gauge?
> Wayne,
> 
> That's what makes the "Denier" system a tad better.  It's a true measurement, 
> I think.  Although I could have been lead astray.
> 
> IF I remember right (always a problem any more) 140 denier is fairly 
> equivalent to the old 3/0 (think Danville prewaxed).  6/0 was in the area of 
> 80 denier, 8/0 in the area of 60 denier.  The higher the denier, the heavier 
> the thread.
> 
> Here's the definition of "denier" I found on the internet.:
> A unit of fineness for rayon, nylon, and silk fibers, based on 
> a standard mass per length of 1 gram per 9,000 meters of yarn.
> So all you have to do is take 9,000 meters (5.6 miles) of yarn and weigh it.
> 
> Of course the tensile strength is highly dependent on the material used to 
> make the thread.
> 
>  I hope this hasn't totally muddled the issue.
> 
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Re: [VFB] AquaNova fly lines

[Alan Di Somma]

Most people don't even know about them. When ever I tell someone  when I am 
working, you can almost see the light bulb go on over their heads. LIKE WOW!
 I have them in 4 sizes. 3"-6"-9"-12" inches per second.


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> On Feb 11, 2014, at 11:06 PM, "Chuck Alexander" 
>  wrote:
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> Alan: I thought you’d have to pick it up like that, but wasn’t positive. I 
> think I like the idea of just buying a sinking tip that would 
> connect/disconnect to my normal floating line. Thanks, Chuck
>  
> From: Alan Di Somma
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> Subject: Re: [VFB] AquaNova fly lines
>  
> I have several sinking lines Chuck.
>  
> The thing I have found , is that you must retrieve most of the line before 
> you can pick up the sinking part.
>  
> I have sinking tips of several different rates. I also have full sinking 
> line. The  sink tips allow you to use your regular floating line and be able 
> to change them while you are fishing. They are usually loop to loop.
> 
> I use them from my pontoon boat, because the heaver one are so hard to cast. 
> As you are kicking, you just let line out. It is much easier then trying to 
> cast the.
>  
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> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
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>  
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>  
>  
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:29 PM, "Chuck Alexander" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That (fly fishing with a sinking tip, or fully sinking line) is something I 
>> have never tried. Say on a sinking tip line, when you go to re-cast, and the 
>> line, leader, tippet and fly are underwater, does that make it real hard to 
>> pull all that up and out of the water?? I would suppose that instead of a 
>> jerk, you’d just pull smoothly till you got the line back up atop the water, 
>> then re-cast as normal right ??? Or wrong??  Do those sinking lines take a 
>> while to get used to?? Thanks, Chuck
>>  
>> From: aflyt...@comcast.net
>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:11 PM
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [VFB] AquaNova fly lines
>>  
>> You will not be disappointed I have used both their floating and sinking 
>> lines and have never found fault with them, other than they are sometimes 
>> hard to find when you want a new one.
>> Gary
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Chuck Alexander" 
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 11:00:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [VFB] AquaNova fly lines
>> 
>> I never have, but at that price, I think I will try at least the sinking 
>> tip, because the fish are suspended in deeper water right now, till they go 
>> into the shallows to spawn starting in April sometime, and I plan to try and 
>> get out to the lake before that happens. Chuck
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Allan Fish
>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:23 PM
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [VFB] AquaNova fly lines
>> 
>> On 2/10/14, 9:49 PM, wayneb22...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >
>> > I must admit, I'm very impressed with the Dt lines that Dorber sells. 
>> > Anyone try the Wf or sinking lines?
>> >
>> > Wayneb
>> >
>> 
>> Wayne,
>> 
>> I've got a DT 5wt, a WF 6 wt. and a WF 3 wt. and am pleased with all
>> three of them.
>> 
>> Al
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Re: [VFB] AquaNova fly lines

[Alan Di Somma]

I have several sinking lines Chuck.

The thing I have found , is that you must retrieve most of the line before you 
can pick up the sinking part. 

I have sinking tips of several different rates. I also have full sinking line. 
The  sink tips allow you to use your regular floating line and be able to 
change them while you are fishing. They are usually loop to loop.

I use them from my pontoon boat, because the heaver one are so hard to cast. As 
you are kicking, you just let line out. It is much easier then trying to cast 
the.


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> On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:29 PM, "Chuck Alexander" 
>  wrote:
> 
> That (fly fishing with a sinking tip, or fully sinking line) is something I 
> have never tried. Say on a sinking tip line, when you go to re-cast, and the 
> line, leader, tippet and fly are underwater, does that make it real hard to 
> pull all that up and out of the water?? I would suppose that instead of a 
> jerk, you’d just pull smoothly till you got the line back up atop the water, 
> then re-cast as normal right ??? Or wrong??  Do those sinking lines take a 
> while to get used to?? Thanks, Chuck
>  
> From: aflyt...@comcast.net
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:11 PM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] AquaNova fly lines
>  
> You will not be disappointed I have used both their floating and sinking 
> lines and have never found fault with them, other than they are sometimes 
> hard to find when you want a new one.
> Gary
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Chuck Alexander" 
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 11:00:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [VFB] AquaNova fly lines
> 
> I never have, but at that price, I think I will try at least the sinking 
> tip, because the fish are suspended in deeper water right now, till they go 
> into the shallows to spawn starting in April sometime, and I plan to try and 
> get out to the lake before that happens. Chuck
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Allan Fish
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:23 PM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] AquaNova fly lines
> 
> On 2/10/14, 9:49 PM, wayneb22...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > I must admit, I'm very impressed with the Dt lines that Dorber sells. 
> > Anyone try the Wf or sinking lines?
> >
> > Wayneb
> >
> 
> Wayne,
> 
> I've got a DT 5wt, a WF 6 wt. and a WF 3 wt. and am pleased with all
> three of them.
> 
> Al
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Re: [VFB] Source for plastic box?

[Alan Di Somma]

You are very industrious. I like your idea.

The fly boxes with that type of hook holder is really gaining in popularity.


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> On Jan 28, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Neville Gosling  wrote:
> 
> I have not made any yet but believe it can be done using suitable adhesive 
> backed 2-3 mm foam, scissors,  razor blade & steel ruler.
> 
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> Greater Vancouver
> BC  Canada
> 
>> How did you make those micro slit foam inserts?
>> 
>> If you have Staples or other office supply store near you, they may have the 
>> type of boxes you are looking for.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [VFB] Source for plastic box?

[Alan Di Somma]

How did you make those micro slit foam inserts?

If you have Staples or other office supply store near you, they may have the 
type of boxes you are looking for.


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> On Jan 27, 2014, at 7:47 PM, Neville Gosling  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan:
> 
> 
> I just want the empty box with no internal compartments so that I can stick 
> my own home-made micro-slit foam fly holders inside.
> I would like to get several.
> 
> Nev
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I bought one with the threaders on eBay, for about $3.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Neville Gosling  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am looking for a suitable rectangular plastic or ABS boxes with attached 
>>> lid similar in size to the small C & F fly box size approximately  5" x 
>>> 33/4".
>>> Does anyone have a suggestion for a source? Preferably the slightly 
>>> flexible type of plastic that gives under pressure instead of cracking or 
>>> fracturing.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Neville (Nev) Gosling
>>> Greater Vancouver
>>> BC  Canada
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Re: [VFB] Source for plastic box?

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I bought one with the threaders on eBay, for about $3.


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> On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Neville Gosling  wrote:
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> I am looking for a suitable rectangular plastic or ABS boxes with attached 
> lid similar in size to the small C & F fly box size approximately  5" x 33/4".
> Does anyone have a suggestion for a source? Preferably the slightly flexible 
> type of plastic that gives under pressure instead of cracking or fracturing.
> 
> 
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> BC  Canada
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Re: [VFB] Did You Know this?: CABELA'S.....Un-Believable!!

[Alan Di Somma]

Does that mean that the tax just went into effect?

Remember this when you vote for incumbents.


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> On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
> 
> Jimi,
> 
> That was in January 2013 and was a computer error.  It was caught almost 
> immediately and corrected by Cabelas.
> 
> Cheers,
> af
> 
>> On 1/26/14, 6:44 PM, Jimi, AKA Desert Eagle wrote:
>> SURPRISE, SURPRISE!
>> 
>> Who knew a fishing rod was a medical device?
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Re: [VFB] ooops

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There is actually a section here in Phoenix called San Tan Valley. So maybe it 
is named after them . 


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> On Jan 11, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Allan Fish  wrote:
> 
>> On 1/11/14, 11:42 AM, J Balmer wrote:
>> Usually see them either tan or red, but not both, so it should work 
>> regardless.
> 
> 
> So maybe it's a Sand Juan Worm?
> 
> Or a San Tan Worm??
> 
> 
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Re: [VFB] ooops

[Alan Di Somma]

Best it you Birdie. Hope you get well. I will have you in my prayers.

BTW you can tie the San Juan worm in many colors. Usually they are tied in one 
color and can be tied on 6 to 16. I have even seen them tied from shami.


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> On Jan 11, 2014, at 8:29 AM,  wrote:
> 
> Alan
>  
> Never heard of the shuffle but have heard of people doing it here in England 
> to stir up coarse fish, don’t think it’s illegal here except perhaps in 
> matches but thanks for the info.
>  
> I am not too bad but will be starting chemo again on Wednesday so fingers 
> crossed.
>  
> Birdie 
>  
> From: phxflyt...@cox.net
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>  
> Brian:
>  
> It is tied with Vernielle. The one you photo you attached has a metal bead.
> I have only recently seen it tied this way. It is usually tied without one.
> In order to tie one you must take a cigarette lighter and singe both ends of 
> the Vernielle to taper the ends.
>  
> This pattern was developed for the San Juan River in New Mexico, USA.
> It is used by many fly fishers in Arizona in Lee’s Ferry, which is the tail 
> water from Lake Powell.
> I have also heard of it being used in other places here.
>  
> Does the term” San Juan Shuffle” mean anything to you.
>  
>  
> It is a way of stirring up the bottom of the San Juan River by shuffling your 
> feet, there by stirring up some food sources .
> The rainbows can be very large and just swim around your feet and nudge you< 
> making you look down at them and you get startled and shuffle .
> Many fishermen do this as a general routine to stir up activity. The water is 
> so clear and shallow that you can see many fish in the river.
>  
> If you have any other questions I will be happy to help.
>  
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Phoenix, AZ.
> 
> If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for 
> being in the country illegally ...you might live in a country founded by 
> geniuses but run by idiots.
> 
>  
> From: brian.burge...@btinternet.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 6:21 AM
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>  
> Sorry forgot to attach picture
>  
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Re: [VFB] ooops

[Alan Di Somma]

It should be. The only problem making it illegal is the when the fish bunk into 
you legs, you do it out of reflex.

I know because I just fished there in Sept.
The fish are very big and just swim around your legs.

By the way, one of the guys I was fishing with was using a 4 wt. rod that was 
extremely slow. It looked like a noodle.
He hooked into a good one that I saw was at least 25-28".
He was fighting it for a while until it decided he had enough of the and headed 
down river. Well you should have seen him running down after it. Several 
minutes later he came back up to where I was fishing with a rather dejected 
look on his face. I said to him that just hooking one of those big fish should 
be a thrill.


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> On Jan 11, 2014, at 7:21 AM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:
> 
> I thought the Sam Juan Shuffle was illegal. I hear it is here in Arkansas.
> Tony
> 
> 
> On Saturday, January 11, 2014 7:52 AM, "phxflyt...@cox.net" 
>  wrote:
> Brian:
>  
> It is tied with Vernielle. The one you photo you attached has a metal bead.
> I have only recently seen it tied this way. It is usually tied without one.
> In order to tie one you must take a cigarette lighter and singe both ends of 
> the Vernielle to taper the ends.
>  
> This pattern was developed for the San Juan River in New Mexico, USA.
> It is used by many fly fishers in Arizona in Lee’s Ferry, which is the tail 
> water from Lake Powell.
> I have also heard of it being used in other places here.
>  
> Does the term” San Juan Shuffle” mean anything to you.
>  
>  
> It is a way of stirring up the bottom of the San Juan River by shuffling your 
> feet, there by stirring up some food sources .
> The rainbows can be very large and just swim around your feet and nudge you< 
> making you look down at them and you get startled and shuffle .
> Many fishermen do this as a general routine to stir up activity. The water is 
> so clear and shallow that you can see many fish in the river.
>  
> If you have any other questions I will be happy to help.
>  
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Phoenix, AZ.
> 
> If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for 
> being in the country illegally ...you might live in a country founded by 
> geniuses but run by idiots.
> 
>  
> From: brian.burge...@btinternet.com
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> Sorry forgot to attach picture
>  
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Re: [VFB] Between

[Alan Di Somma]

Thanks Mike.

You and I and maybe some in SoCal don't have the bad weather, so we can feel 
for those suffering. I just hope everyone stays safe.

That is an interesting article. 


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> On Jan 3, 2014, at 10:42 PM, Michael Bliss  wrote:
> 
> Allan,
> 
> I saw this article and thought of your comments - 
> http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-01-02/in-winter-storms-humans-are-as-risky-as-mother-nature?campaign_id=DN010314
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Alan Di Somma  wrote:
>> Please be careful buddy. I sure don't want to see anything bad happen to you.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On Jan 3, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
>> >
>> > We'll not totally between. We came to the hospital before the roads got 
>> > well cleared after our 6" snow. They stuck another stent in one of my 
>> > cardiac arteries today (that's 9 now). I get to go home tomorrow just in 
>> > time for  our next 8-10" snow. Fortunately I can't get out to shovel it. 
>> > And can't get out in the 2-3 days if sub-zero temps that follow the snow.
>> > Life is good. 😊
>> > Allan
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Re: [VFB] Between

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Please be careful buddy. I sure don't want to see anything bad happen to you. 


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> On Jan 3, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
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> We'll not totally between. We came to the hospital before the roads got well 
> cleared after our 6" snow. They stuck another stent in one of my cardiac 
> arteries today (that's 9 now). I get to go home tomorrow just in time for  
> our next 8-10" snow. Fortunately I can't get out to shovel it. And can't get 
> out in the 2-3 days if sub-zero temps that follow the snow.  
> Life is good. 😊
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Re: [VFB] Vacation in the Poconos or Catskills

[Alan Di Somma]

Mike

Have you ever fished Sunfish Pond?

It is on top of the mountain in Stokes State Forest.

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> On Jan 3, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Mike Barrett  wrote:
> 
> I sent the following by direct email to Hendry.
>  
> 
> By the way, the Beaverkill Valley Inn has 1 mile of private water catch and 
> release water on the upper Beaverkill just like 2 miles north of Lew Beach, 
> NY. The 'wall pool' is like no more than 300 feet away where I have caught 22 
> inch rainbows at the head of the pool many times because the BVI is catch and 
> release. This pool is quite long. There are three great pools to fish and 
> twice as many riffles also. There is the bend pool further south, may 800 
> feet away. If you are lucky enough to know someone from the Beaverkill Trout 
> Club a couple of miles south of the BVI, they have 6 miles of private water. 
> You would like to fish within walking distance of the motel/Bed & Breakfast 
> and be in NIRVANA? Well this is it!!! it sounds like you want to make a 
> summer trip. The water will be cool enough to hold the fish even through 
> August and warm enough to wet wade. Bing Maps the Birds Eye view of the 
> address and you will get an idea of their property. 
> 
> The nice thing about the BVI, is that you must cross the Barnhart Road bridge 
> to get to their property. Their property is separated from the Beaverkill 
> Valley Road by the river.
> 
> From the BVI you can get to the East Branch of the Delaware, which has many 
> access points for wade fishing. In August it will still be ice cold from 
> water releases early in the morning, 40 degree range from the bottom of the 
> Pepacton Reservoir Dam in Downsville NY. It is like natures own A/C on a 95 
> degree August day.
> 
> They have an indoor swimming pool, indoor basketball court and a self serve 
> ice cream bar. Breakfast is part of your room charge. Last year weekdays were 
> $167/ night and Sunday is a weekday. They serve lunch and dinner, if need be 
> at an additional price. Full course dinners were $50/person with soup, salad, 
> entre and desert. Sometimes with dinner, they have a cocktail hour with hors 
> d'œuvres. It just depends on how many people will be at dinner. They have a 
> nice little bar with good spirits a plenty, fine wine and many craft beers. 
> Tipping is not permitted. If they are not serving dinner, you are allowed to 
> eat at the homeowners association club bar in Lew Beach.
> 
>  
> There is a wonderful wraparound porch for sitting and reading. There are many 
> trails for hiking but it is black bear country so please bring bear mace 
> and/or fog horns. Just Google either and make your choice. I always carry 
> bear mace, a small horn and one 5 inch bowie knife as a last resort.
>  
> From the BVI, you can go fish the covered bridge on the upper Beaverkill NY 
> state park area a few miles away. There is a deep pool there. You can go 
> north on route 206 out of Roscoe and before you cross the Beaverkill River 
> Bridge, there is a torn off on your left to the Beaverkill River. Back down 
> 206 towards Roscoe, there is another access point. And of Course there is the 
> famous Junction Pool (the Beaverkill and Willowemoc meet to form the lower 
> Beaverkill. 
>  
> There is a cute little creek with two turn offs for fishing, Mongaup Creek. 
> It is up Mongaup Road which is off of DeBruce Road out of Livingston Manor. 
> Mongaup is a tributary to the Upper Willowemoc, upstream from Livingston 
> Manor. The turnoff to the pool, which I always fish, is the one with the v 
> formed plank dam, the second one after driving up on Mongaup Road. Do not 
> step out onto the dam. It is slick as goat shit. Plus I am not sure that it 
> would support any weight because of its age. A vist to the hatchery on 
> Mongaup creek is worthwhile. It is fed by 1,500 gallons daily of spring 
> water, which just emptys into the lower Mongaup Creek where the plank dam is, 
> insuring water even during a hot dry summer month. 
>  
> Just plop a size 16 royal wullf to the far side and let the back wash drift 
> it into the foam and pretty little 14 inch rainbows will bolt from the depth 
> underneath the foam and take your presentation. Mongaup Creek houses the 
> Mongaup Creek NY State Hatchery further on up the road so Google map it and 
> you will find the road to the aforementioned fishing spot.  
>  
> Depending on the time of year, which you may go, you will have to check local 
> info as to local craft fairs etc.
> 
> The only fly shop, to which I go, is the Catskills Fly Shop. Dennis, the 
> owner, is very friendly but do not be put off by his sarcasm, if 

Re: [VFB] Savings for seniors age 50+

[Alan Di Somma]

Fabulous Jimi. Thanks a lot for the heads up.


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> On Dec 15, 2013, at 2:15 PM, "Jimi, AKA Desert Eagle"  wrote:
> 
> Savings for seniors age 50+
> 
> You may qualify for this now!
> 
> Thought this was interesting...
> 
> 
>   SENIOR DISCOUNTS
> 
>   Keep this list and send a copy to your senior friends and relatives.
>   As I was waiting in line behind an older gentleman at Wendy's recently, I 
> heard him ask for his senior discount. The girl at the register apologized 
> and charged him less. When I asked the man what the discount was, he told me 
> that seniors over age 55 get 10% off everything on the menu, every day.
>   Being of 'that' age myself, I figured I might as well ask for the discount 
> too.
>   This incident prompted me to do some research, and I came across a list of 
> restaurants, supermarkets, department stores, travel deals and other types of 
> offers giving various discounts with different age requirements. I was 
> actually surprised to see how many there are and how some of them start at 
> the young age of 50 .
>   This list may not only be useful for you, but for your friends and family 
> too.
>   Dunkin Donuts gives free coffee to people over 55 .
>   If you're paying for a cup every day, you might want to start getting it 
> for FREE.
> 
>   YOU; must ASK for your discount !
> 
>   RESTAURANTS:
>   Applebee's: 15% off with Golden Apple Card (60+)
>   Arby's: 10% off ( 55 +)
>   Ben & Jerry's: 10% off (60+)
>   Bennigan's: discount varies by location (60+)
>   Bob's Big Boy: discount varies by location (60+)
>   Boston Market: 10% off (65+)
>   Burger King: 10% off (60+)
>   Chick-Fil-A: 10% off or free small drink or coffee ( 55+)
>   Chili's: 10% off ( 55+)
>   CiCi's Pizza: 10% off (60+)
>   Denny's: 10% off, 20% off for AARP members ( 55 +)
>   Dunkin' Donuts: 10% off or free coffee ( 55+)
>   Einstein's Bagels: 10% off baker's dozen of bagels (60+)
>   Fuddrucker's: 10% off any senior platter ( 55+)
>   Gatti's Pizza: 10% off (60+)
>   Golden Corral: 10% off (60+)
>   Hardee's: $0.33 beverages everyday (65+)
>   IHOP: 10% off ( 55+)
>   Jack in the Box: up to 20% off ( 55+)
>   KFC: free small drink with any meal ( 55+)
>   Krispy Kreme: 10% off ( 50+)
>   Long John Silver's: various discounts at locations ( 55+)
>   McDonald's: discounts on coffee everyday ( 55+)
>   Mrs. Fields: 10% off at participating locations (60+)
>   Shoney's: 10% off
>   Sonic: 10% off or free beverage (60+)
>   Steak 'n Shake: 10% off every Monday & Tuesday ( 50+)
>   Subway: 10% off (60+)
>   Sweet Tomatoes: 10% off (62+)
>   Taco Bell : 5% off; free beverages for seniors (65+)
>   TCBY: 10% off ( 55+)
>   Tea Room Cafe: 10% off ( 50+)
>   Village Inn: 10% off (60+)
>   Waffle House: 10% off every Monday (60+)
>   Wendy's: 10% off ( 55 +)
>   Whataburger: 10% off (62+)
>   White Castle: 10% off (62+) This is for me ... if I ever see one again.
> 
>   RETAIL & APPAREL :
>   Banana Republic: 30% off ( 50 +)
>   Bealls: 20% off first Tuesday of each month ( 50 +)
>   Belk's: 15% off first Tuesday of every month ( 55 +)
>   Big Lots: 30% off
>   Bon-Ton Department Stores: 15% off on senior discount days ( 55 +)
>   C.J. Banks: 10% off every Wednesday (50+)
>   Clarks : 10% off (62+)
>   Dress Barn: 20% off ( 55+)
>   Goodwill: 10% off one day a week (date varies by location)
>   Hallmark: 10% off one day a week (date varies by location)
>   Kmart: 40% off (Wednesdays only) ( 50+)
>   Kohl's: 15% off (60+)Modell's Sporting Goods: 30% off
>   Rite Aid: 10% off on Tuesdays & 10% off prescriptions
>   Ross Stores: 10% off every Tuesday ( 55+)
>   The Salvation Army Thrift Stores: up to 50% off ( 55+)
>   Stein Mart: 20% off red dot/clearance items first Monday of every month ( 
> 55 +)
> 
>   GROCERY :
>   Albertson's: 10% off first Wednesday of each month ( 55 +)
>   American Discount Stores: 10% off every Monday ( 50 +)
>   Compare Foods Supermarket: 10% off every Wednesday (60+)
>   DeCicco Family Markets: 5% off every Wednesday (60+)
>   Food Lion: 60% off every Monday (60+)
>   Fry's Supermarket: free Fry's VIP Club Membership & 10% off every Monday ( 
> 55 +)
>   Great Valu Food Store: 5% off every Tuesday (60+)
>   Gristedes Supermarket: 10% off every Tuesday (60+)
>   Harris Teeter: 5% off every Tuesday (60+)
>   Hy-Vee: 5% off one day a week (date varies by location)
>   Kroger: 10% off (date

Re: [VFB] Tying Materials

[Alan Di Somma]

http://www.azflyfishing.net/proshop/home.php?cat=251

Try this page for a wide variety of dubbing.

I have used some of them but not all.

The ones I have used are great.

I am just a happy user, not related to him.

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> On Dec 5, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Joyce M Westphal  wrote:
> 
> Here id a link http://www.bearsden.com/product12170.html  I have used this 
> supplier with good results. Joyce
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
>> On Dec  2013, at 10:16 PM, Garry Wiles  wrote:
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>> > It's Spirit River brand Body-Brite Bagged Purple.
>> 
>> Their Lite-bright dubbing is available on EBay. See of it looks like it.
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Re: [VFB] Tying Materials

[Alan Di Somma]

That sure is spiky looking dubbing.
Have you used it before Joyce?


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> On Dec 5, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Joyce M Westphal  wrote:
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> Here id a link http://www.bearsden.com/product12170.html  I have used this 
> supplier with good results. Joyce
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
>> On Dec  2013, at 10:16 PM, Garry Wiles  wrote:
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>> > It's Spirit River brand Body-Brite Bagged Purple.
>> 
>> Their Lite-bright dubbing is available on EBay. See of it looks like it.
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Re: [VFB] Blizzard -Rope Dub swap 2014 CLOSED

[Alan Di Somma]

Peggy:

I sure would like to meet you at the Sow Bug.

I am hoping to be able to drive to Texas, so I can drive Jimmy D and myself 
there. It may be my last time.

I appreciate this swap and I may host one to be completed by April 1st. Since I 
am. A Bass fisher. I would Like that as my theme.

Any one interested in one like that?


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> On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Peggy Brenner  wrote:
> 
> I just went through our emails of today and this is what I have.  The list 
> for both swaps was the same except for the very bottom. We'll go with 15 
> swappers, a sweet list of materials, and you can rope dub or not. This way a 
> option is a winter themed free style rope dubbed fly.
> 
> Ice dub
> Polar bear
> Seal fur (synthetic OK) or walrus
> Penguin feathers (if you have them)
> Arctic fox
> Islandic sheep,
> caribou
> Yeti hair
> Narwhal under-hair dubbing
> ice colors of angel hair
> snowshoe hair from a snowshoe hare
> 
> And, deadline February 7, flies to
> 
> Peggy Brenner
> 266 N River Rd
> Milford, NH 03055
> 
> I still work 3 days a week, till May, then it's good bye job, hello Medicare, 
> retirement in August when Jerry turns 67.
> 
> And we are both coming down to Sowbug in 2014 anyone else coming?
> 
> 
> 
> 1. Don Ordes- 18 Below Caddis Fly Nymph (18” below the strike indicator)
> 2.  Allan Fish
> 3.  Mike Bliss
> 4.  Pete Gramp-Josh's White Lightning nymph
> 5.  Peggy Brenner-Artic fox salmon with ice dub body rope on
> 6.  Chuck Alexander - maybe
> 7. Alan Single-L DiSomma
> 8.  Ashley Strutt
> 9.  Rick Zieger if he can find his dubbing
> 10. Wayne Blake-Hedges
> 11. Bob Haering
> 12. J. Balmer
> 13. Joyce Westphal
> 14. Jerry Mckaughan
> 15 Rene Zillman
> 
> Peggy
> 
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Re: [VFB] Blizzard of 2014 swap

[Alan Di Somma]

Peggy

I still want to be in your swap also.


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> On Dec 3, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
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> Peggy,
> 
> Count me in to your swap too.
> 
> Allan
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Re: [VFB] Roll call and winter fly-swap interest??

[Alan Di Somma]

I am actually in Texas for Thanksgiving and had my left rotator cuff repaired. 
I will be leaving to go back to Phoenix tomorrow morning.

Since I cannot lift anything heavier then some dubbing, you may as we'll count 
me in. I will tie an Arizona Peacock Lady with Ice Dubbing instead of Peacock 
herl.



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> On Dec 1, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Pete Gramp  wrote:
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> 
> Thanks everyone, but golly it wasn't my intent to hijack the email thread.  I 
> really would like to see a swap (hosted by someone else) happen - and 
> participate as well. :)  Thanks for the well wishes, though, much appreciated 
> :)
> -Pete
> 
> On Sunday, December 1, 2013, Peggy Brenner  wrote:
> > I hope this has a good outcome, scary but.
> >
> > Peggy
> >
> > On 12/1/2013 2:47 PM, Pete Gramp wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm still here.  Have a cranial mass lesion in left occipital lobe,
> >> 6.5mm, aka brain tumor.  still doing the "every 6 weeks MRI with
> >> contrast and perfusion" routine.  As long as it doesn't grow, all is
> >> well; if it does grow, I'll be in the operating room for cranial
> >> neurosurgery within a week (or so they say).  So other than that, life
> >> is good.  Tie on the weekends when not working.
> >> I'm game for a swap if 12 or fewer flies, and if no PB is needed.  I
> >> have some Ice Dub and could tie up some "Josh's White Lightnings" nymphs
> >> in either purple or orange (prefer purple - caught a 13-14" brookie and
> >> an 18" rainbow on it this pattern this late september / early october).
> >>   Let me know when due, how many flies, and where to send.  I don't do
> >> well with hosting, but if someone else (you?) are hosting, I'll gladly
> >> participate.
> >> -Pete
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Michael Bliss  >> <mailto:flyfish...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I am still here.
> >>
> >> I am still working at BYU Hawaii in Laie, HI.  But next year
> >> probably end of May will retire.  We bought a home in Utah and will
> >> move back.  I hope I can re-acclimate to the cold after all this
> >> time.  We want to be back around family.  I am okay on health for
> >> now.  Hope to see some of you at least after moving back.  Maybe a
> >> VFB conclave on the Green River?
> >>
> >> I need an excuse to tie so I would join the swap.  I have no polar
> >> bear but could sub something (snowshoe or arctic fox).  I have
> >> plenty of ice dubbing.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Don Ordes  >> <mailto:f...@tribcsp.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> VFB Roll Call...  Who’s still here?
> >> And let us know how you are doing if you feel like it.
> >> I’ll start.  Got my diabetes on the run. Off insulin now
> >> (un-officially) and my BG readings are still all normal.
> >> Exercise and diet have been the key for me. Up to a mile on the
> >> treadmill now- walking, jogging, and wind-sprinting up to 6 mph
> >> so far with incline. Two months ago a 5 min. /2 mph/ /level
> >> walk/ pooped me out. My BP is now normal after the workout and
> >> after the cool-down. Have lost 45 pounds so far (less of me to
> >> love). Who-hoo!
> >> Anyone interested in *fly swaps* now that winter is here?
> >> Something with ice-dubbing? or polar bear?
> >> DonO
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Re: [VFB] Happy Thanksgiving

[Alan Di Somma]

and a Happy Thanksgiving ti you also.
thanks Tony



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> On Nov 28, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:
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> Wishing all my friends on the lists a Happy Thanksgiving. I have a lot to be 
> thankful for including all the friends I have made on these lists over the 
> years.
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Re: [VFB] Jimmy D update

[Alan Di Somma]

It may be hard to tie flies with the magnetic attraction.
Although it should be able to find erant hookshahahahaha


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> On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:02 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
> 
> I'll have to be careful around you, Peggy.  Your magnetic fields might 
> attract my metal knees!!
> 
> I'll stop there while I'm still ahead. ;-)
> 
> Al
> 
>> On 11/15/13, 7:26 PM, Peggy Brenner wrote:
>> Great that things are coming along.  Your boot and the Medicare price gave 
>> me a chuckle, this summer after back surgery that involved a bone graft I 
>> have to use a gadget that creates a magnetic field, it cost my insurance 
>> $5600!
>> 
>> There is actually proof that bones when they heal do create a magnetic 
>> field, this is to enhance that natural effect.
>> 
>> Peggy
>> 
>>> On 11/14/2013 10:47 AM, Jimmy D. Moore wrote:
>>> Hi Gang:
>>> 
>>> Still progressing nicely.  Taking a litle while to get tht Comadin
>>> regulated,
>>> but I understand that's the way it goes.  Blood too thin, blood too thick.
>>> Hopefully they get it right this time.
>>> 
>>> There's no swelling or pain.  Been no pain from the outset, so I'm lucky
>>> there.  Some have really bad pain with the clot.  The only thing that
>>> bothers me is that I have to take the Comadin for 6 months. So be it!
>>> During all this I plan to re-hab the muscles in my legs.  Was working on
>>> on that when Clot hit.
>>> 
>>> The orthopedic boot is 'out the window'  Both my docs said that the
>>> way I had it tightened was what caused the clot in the first place.
>>> Told me in no uncertain terms  was I to wear the boot until
>>> the clot business is over and done with.  Anyone want to buy a $1000
>>> boot? :-P  Yep, thats what they cost. Medicare paid for it,. whew!
>>> 
>>> Hopefully, come spring, I can wade again.
>>> 
>>> JIMMYD
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  ><º>  
>>> JIMMY D. MOORE, ARS WB5RHT,author Moon Holler Misfits Fishing & Hunting
>>> Club, Member, TOWA, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited,   North
>>> Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,
>>> Texas Fish & Game Magazine, Virtual Fly Box & Fly Fishing
>>> World Moderator, Scout Exec. Boy Scouts of America, Retired
>>> http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html *
>>> <º><   *
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Re: [VFB] Something bad but good...

[Alan Di Somma]

Don;

I to am diabetic, but no longer take insulin injections,
I control it with diet. Have not yet developed the inclination for-UGH! 
Exercise.

I do not eat anything with added sugar (sucrol) but I am not afraid to eat 
fruits (frucrol) . If your blueberry/mango does not have added sugar, you 
should be OK.
I would test your blood sugar before and 25 mins. After eating it.

The main thing I have learned is to eat small amounts several times a day.


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> On Oct 11, 2013, at 7:26 AM, "Don Ordes"  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Tony and the rest.  I missed the FFF show in W. Yellowstone because of 
> this development. I’m dealing with it OK for now, but I haven’t had to travel 
> yet. My goals are to get in better shape, lose the excess weight, and get off 
> the 3 per day ‘orange pen’ injections.
>  
> Sad part is I just got finished making 3 gallons of spicy mango chutney for 
> my British/Indian curry recipe, and now I can’t eat it. One more goal to 
> achieve. Made a half gallon of mixed mango and blueberry chutney for 
> pancakes, too, and that will have to wait.
>  
> DonO
>  
> From: Anthony Spezio
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 12:19 PM
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> Subject: Re: [VFB] Something bad but good, but weird- what else from Dr. D?
>  
> Good to hear that you are doing better. I know what it is to be  down and not 
> be able to do anything.
> I did get to tie last weekend at the local FFF Fly Fair for a few hours each 
> day.
> Tony
> 
> 
> On Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:09 PM, Don Ordes  wrote:
> I'm not normally one to post every medical situation here, but this one is 
> sorta' tying related.
> 
> About 5 weeks ago I started feeling pretty down- not sick, but just really 
> dragging, like the energy button was set on 2 out of 10. Went on a 3-week 
> trip and developed the tell-tale symptoms of sugar diabetes. Was not a good 
> trip, as all I did was drink everything in sight and then pee it out. I lost 
> close to 30 pounds of water-weight and I'm told muscle weight also. And 
> Cheryl had to do the bigger share of driving, as my eyes had gotten blurry. 
> Any of you with diabetes know the score, and those who support/know them 
> know it 2nd hand. I was in acidosis big time.
> 
> So I get back, order a blood test, and set up an appointment with my doc. He 
> moved my appointment to the next day when he got the results, and then threw 
> my butt in the hospital. My blood sugar on the test was over 400, and when 
> they checked me in, it was over 700. I felt 'OK', and was cutting up with 
> everyone in the ER check-in, being such a sweet guy and all. Got a room on 
> the heart floor because of my a-fib (for monitoring), and they re-hydrated 
> me and started me on insulin to bring the sugars down. I responded 
> immediately and the sugars came down into the high 100's in two days and 
> they kicked me out. My sugars now hover around 100, and have been like that 
> for 2 weeks now- very stable. I had adverse reactions to Metforin (sp?), so 
> the doc took me off of that. Had an ultra-sound done of my heart and all 
> A-OK there.
> 
> Now for the part about fly tying. The doc said it could take months for my 
> eye blurriness to clear up, and then my vision might not equal what I had. 
> Ha.!  I pulled a fast one on them. My vision cleared up while I was still in 
> the hospital, and I noticed I was having trouble seeing with my glasses. 
> After I got home my eyes totally corrected and I mean actually reversed 
> themselves. For the 1st time since I was 12 I don't need and can see fine 
> without glasses. With my glasses it's like opening my eyes underwater. So 
> now, without glasses, I can see a size 22 dry fly float by. Who-hooo! It's 
> not 20-20, but I've never had that- even with glasses. Bought me some cool 
> shades for the 1st time, too.
> 
> Wait...that's not fly tying. This is fly tying related. I used to amaze 
> everyone that I could tie a #32 Mustad royal coachman with the naked eye. 
> Well, no more. Closer than 16", any fly gets blurry, so I need reading 
> glasses for the 1st time in my life. I don't like the shape-shifting as I 
> look around for stuff, so I may go to a magnifier. With reading glasses, I 
> can still see just enough to tie a #32, but nothing like the macro-vision I 
> had before.
> 
> For fishing outlook, I put much of the water-weight back on, but have lost 
> 20 pounds now based on diet and exercise. I'm walking on the treadmill every 
> day and have actually started jogging on it, which I haven't been able to do 
> for years d

Re: [VFB] Mustad Mdl 277 size #32

[Alan Di Somma]

They are TMC's not Mustads.
Are you sure that prices correct?


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On Sep 20, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

> Jack,
> A full box of them went for 277.00 several years ago on E bay.
> Tony
> 
> From: Jack Lehman 
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 9:28 PM
> Subject: [VFB] Mustad Mdl 277 size #32
> 
> As an officer of the local fly club, I sometimes get handed items from 
> estates of members who have passed on.  I haven't opened the boxes yet, 
> but there are 4, count em 4, 100 boxes of these in the donation.  
> Anybody have an idea of what they are worth?  Anybody interested 
> sometime in the near future?  Right now I'm trying to ascertain the 
> value of the donation so I can give it to the family for taxes.  Most 
> items will go to club members during meetings and our annual banquet, 
> but I think these may be more appreciated by some of ya'll.  And by 
> appreciated I mean rectangular green paper. We were told by the family 
> to auction most off to be donated to some of our charities, and anything 
> not worth selling, to use for our teaching efforts.
> 
> 
> There are also some TMC 30s and 32s.
> 
> Jack
> Austin
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Re: [VFB] Pink Jig

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That should have been "queezie"

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On Sep 1, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Alan Di Somma  wrote:

> This should make Chuck queenside!!!
> 
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> 
> On Sep 1, 2013, at 5:02 AM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:
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>> These Pink Jigs have been the choice here on the White for several months.
>> Tying up some for a friend. They are fished under an indicator.
>> Arkansas Tony 
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Re: [VFB] Pink Jig

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This should make Chuck queenside!!!


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> These Pink Jigs have been the choice here on the White for several months.
> Tying up some for a friend. They are fished under an indicator.
> Arkansas Tony 
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Re: [VFB] Fishing the other day

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I got to go out Thursday with a friend.

Caught one largemouth, two sun fish and one trout.

It rained but I brought my rain coat and kept fishing. I was hoping it would 
stop but it didn't. I was wearing my cowboy hat and it kept me dry for a good 
while until it got soaked. Then it started running down my neck. That's when I 
rowed my pontoon boat back to shore and sat in the truck. Nothing worse than 
being wet and cold. 


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On Aug 31, 2013, at 5:10 AM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

> Dot had an appointment with the doctor on Thursday. This is the doctor that 
> has a pond right by the parking lot. I decided to take my fly rod with me 
> though it was real hot and bright sun in the early afternoon. The pond was 
> flat with no activity. I tied on a Yellow Froggie, made a few casts and 
> hooked up. Had a Largemouth. It was not a monster but it is a fish. Worked a 
> few yards further and picked up another Largemouth. Then it was quiet for a 
> while and picked up again. Missed a couple of strikes and then another Bass. 
> The heat started to get to me and I knew I would not be out there very long. 
> I spent about 45 minuets by the pond and ended up with Five Bass and missed 
> at least three.
> I spent the rest of the time till Dot got finished in the air conditioned 
> waiting room.
> Was not much of a fishing trip but I did get to fish and that was better than 
> not fishing at all.
> Arkansas Tony
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[VFB] Congratulations Jerry McKaughan

[Alan Di Somma]

Just looking thru the Fall 2013 issue of Flyfishing & Tying Journal and there 
is a tie by Jerry. Looks like it could be a great Sow Bug imitation? What say 
Jerry?


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Re: [VFB] Where is every?one : Wes's season so far

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I'm jealous. 


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On Jul 29, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Wes Wada  wrote:

> Hi VFB!
> 
> Spring fishing in central Oregon was Gone with the Wind.  At one point, had 
> scheduled eight trips, only to be able to make two, due to wretched weather.  
> I was getting depressed!  Felt like the whole season was going down the tubes.
> 
> Had a couple of very good days at Davis Lake for Largemouth Bass.
> 
> Then finally the weather warmed in July, and this month has been incredible.  
> I have mostly been fishing Crane Prairie Reservoir for the big rainbows, and 
> in the last 12 days, have C&R two 27", two 26" and three more over 20".
> 
> The fly of choice was my Juicebug Damsel, both in the original version, and 
> lately an olive brown, copper-eyed, heavy hook version.  The light wire hooks 
> in the original pattern were no match for these fish, so ended up going to a 
> 3X heavy Fuling Mills Competition Heavyweight from the UK. That's done the 
> trick.  The tails and abdomen are dyed Arctic Fox body fur.
> 
> Also in the third season of restoring our 1975 vintage Dodge Maxivan camper.  
> The camping has almost been better than the fishing.
> 
> We are tinder dry here, and fires seem to start every day, but have been 
> quickly extinguished.  The greatest fear will be a dry lightning storm.
> 
> Hope you are able to view the photos.
> 
> Safe travels.
> 
> Wes Wada
> Bend, Oregon
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Re: [VFB] Where is every?one Gar-goyle photo

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Why, exactly is that guy wrasslin with that big mass of UGLY..?


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On Jul 29, 2013, at 9:19 AM, "Don Ordes"  wrote:

> 
> These are the style of flies I tie for both alligator gars and needle-nose 
> gars.
>  
> My goal is one like this:
> 
>  
>  
>  
> From: Alan Di Somma
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>  
> Rick;
>  
> ILL BET THAT FLY WOULD CATCH ALLIGATOR GAR.
> 
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>  
> 
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Rick Zieger   wrote:
> 
>> Go to FAOL.   Boa yarn leeches and a furl tailed mohiar leech, olive.
>> If you would like a few of each of them let me know.
>>  
>> Rick
>>  
>> From: Don Ordes 
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 7:47 AM
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>> Rick,
>> Would like to know what you were using, please.  photo?
>> No gills & crappy here, but there are in Boise, where I visit often.
>>  
>> DonO
>>  
>> From: Rick Zieger
>> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:30 AM
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>> Been busy doing some other things.
>> Went out this morning.  Came home with 39 bluegills and 34 crappie.
>> Also gave a dozen or so to another person that was fishing the pond.
>>  
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Re: [VFB] Where is every?one

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Either fly..


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On Jul 29, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Alan Di Somma  wrote:

> Rick;
> 
> ILL BET THAT FLY WOULD CATCH ALLIGATOR GAR.
> 
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> On Jul 29, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Rick Zieger  wrote:
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>> Go to FAOL.   Boa yarn leeches and a furl tailed mohiar leech, olive.
>> If you would like a few of each of them let me know.
>>  
>> Rick
>> 
>> From: Don Ordes 
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>> Would like to know what you were using, please.  photo?
>> No gills & crappy here, but there are in Boise, where I visit often.
>>  
>> DonO
>>  
>> From: Rick Zieger
>> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:30 AM
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>> Went out this morning.  Came home with 39 bluegills and 34 crappie.
>> Also gave a dozen or so to another person that was fishing the pond.
>>  
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Re: [VFB] Where is every?one

[Alan Di Somma]

Rick;

ILL BET THAT FLY WOULD CATCH ALLIGATOR GAR.


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On Jul 29, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Rick Zieger  wrote:

> Go to FAOL.   Boa yarn leeches and a furl tailed mohiar leech, olive.
> If you would like a few of each of them let me know.
>  
> Rick
> 
> From: Don Ordes 
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 7:47 AM
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> Rick,
> Would like to know what you were using, please.  photo?
> No gills & crappy here, but there are in Boise, where I visit often.
>  
> DonO
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> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:30 AM
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> Also gave a dozen or so to another person that was fishing the pond.
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Re: [VFB] Where is every?one

[Alan Di Somma]

Tony's Froggies.


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On Jul 27, 2013, at 1:40 PM, "rene.zillmann"  wrote:

> Sitting in an old winery with family at the Mosel and talking fishing.  Frogs 
> seems to be good pattern here. What frog pattern do you use? 
> 
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>  Original message 
> From: "Joseph Fusco, Sr."  
> Date: 
> To: VFB ,fly fishing for panfish 
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> Subject: [VFB] Where is every?one 
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> I've  been off line for a couple of days - old computer died suddenly.  Been 
> setting up a new one, and no activity since I came back on line.
> -- 
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> REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE
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Re: [VFB] TESTING

[Alan Di Somma]

Just got back from a 4th long weekend in the White Mnts.

Got to spend some really great time with the wife going to antique shops and 
two very nice craft fairs. Bought more then we need.

Got to go fishing Sat. Rained most of the time but I was well prepared for 
rain. Caught three nice rainbows. I was actually trying to catch largemouth 
bass, but gave that up after the rain storm with lightning. Went back out on 
the lake and that's when I got the trout.


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On Jul 7, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> Everyone must be out fishing, Jimmy.
> 
> Wish they'd give us a report.
> 
> Al
> 
> 
> On 7/7/13 9:05 PM, Jimmy D. Moore wrote:
>> VFB OK?  got very few emails today.
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>> Lemme Know , much appreciated
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Re: AW: [VFB] Happy 4th

[Alan Di Somma]

Tom;

Thanks so much.

I love that fly.

If I had it I would proudly display it on my cowboy/fishing hat.

Could you send me the receipe?


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On Jul 4, 2013, at 7:06 AM, "Thomas R. Eckert"  wrote:

> Happy 4th ! 
>  
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> All those who believe in psychokinesis, raise my hand.
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Re: [VFB] Update on my Shoulder for those interested

[Alan Di Somma]

Gary

Any tips on strengthening ham strings?

Mine tightened up last Tues. in my pontoon boat.


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> Excellent! 
> 
> I guess you don't need this exercise routine.
> 
>  EXERCISE FOR PEOPLE OVER 60 
> 
> 
> 1. Begin by standing on a comfortable surface, where you have plenty 
> of room at each side. 
> 
>  2. With a 5-lb potato bag in each hand, extend your arms straight out from 
> your sides and hold them there as long as you can; try to reach a full minute 
> and then relax. 
> 
> 3. Each day you'll find that you can hold this position for just a 
> bit longer. After a couple of weeks, move up to 10-lb potato bags. 
> 
>  4. Then try 50-lb potato bags and then eventually try to 
> 
> get to where you can lift a 100-lb potato bag in each hand and hold your 
> arms straight for more than a full minute (I'm at this level). 
> 
>  5. After you feel confident at that level, put a potato in each bag. 
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> 
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> 
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Jimi AKA Desert Eagle  
> wrote:
>> Had an appointment with the VA in ABQ yesterday, 6 days after the surgery to 
>> see how things were going and get
>> stitches out. I swear, one of those stitches on the back over the Deltoid 
>> felt like it ran all the way down to my
>> left great toe. Doc Lesko was more than pleased with my progress. His 
>> intention was to evaluate and schedule me for
>> physical therapy after examination. Mind you I set up my own therapy to keep 
>> the mussel structure from getting
>> stiff and work it a bit since there were no clear instructions other than to 
>> keep it moving and only sling it when
>> necessary to alleviate pain. Doc Lesko was impressed that my passive range 
>> of motion was nearly 100% and my active
>> ROM was about 60%, (50% greater than expected). He ask about my régime and 
>> workout times and how I came up with the
>> ideas for it. Told him went back to my "Books" and did some research on 
>> mussel movement and uses and worked from
>> there.
>> 
>> He said he would see me back in 4 weeks and was not going to waste my time 
>> with scheduling a therapist since I was
>> 3 weeks ahead of where I was expected to be in passive and active range of 
>> motion. Did want me to refrain from any
>> lifting or stress workouts using the biceps for fear of damaging the tendon 
>> attachment to the soft tissue after
>> being snipped.
>> 
>> Guess having all those "books" over the years and the varied interest I have 
>> help paid off in time and recovery.
>> Never said I had a limited interest in subjects, but being a "Jack of All 
>> Trades" paid off I think. Still have
>> discomfort and it hurts after hauling hay or feed, but life goes on. At 
>> least I only have to move the big ice chest
>> one time from the car to the house, thank you Lord.
>> 
>> Sharfschutze.
>> "The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears."
>> "One who stands with his convictions never stands alone"
>> "A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the 
>> hands of 200 million law-abiding
>> citizens."
>> "Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit." - Vince Lombardi
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Re: [VFB] Test

[Alan Di Somma]

Got it


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Re: [VFB] Sparrow

[Alan Di Somma]

Hans:

I just wanted to thank you again for sending me the link for the Sparrow.

I tied up a bunch of them for a friend in three colors.

He was ecstatic and could not wait to try them.

He had caught quite a few trout on the pattern last year but could find any to 
buy. He is gone for several days this week and plans to use them. I will post a 
is hing report next week but I just wanted to thank you.

As a side benefit, I learned how to split the thread in order to dub.


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On Apr 14, 2013, at 11:57 PM, Hans Weilenmann  wrote:

> Alan,
> 
> Here is the video I posted for the Sparrow. The recipe is under the video 
> window:
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUTRyT8EtNM
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> (Please view in HD - if able)
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> Cheers,
> Hans
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> On Monday, April 15, 2013, Alan Di Somma wrote:
>> Hans,
>> 
>> If you are out there, I would like to tie up some of your Sparrow's.
>> 
>> Would you please give me the recepie?
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Re: [VFB] Belated report - but at least a fishing report.

[Alan Di Somma]

Got three rainbows several weeks ago and got shunned two weeks ago.




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On May 27, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> On 5/27/13 9:25 PM, Alan Di Somma wrote:
>> 
>> Nice report. We are going to expect more of these in the coming months.
> 
> In that case, I'll have to go out LOTS more than I did last Summer.
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> And where are the reports from SIngle-L?
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Re: [VFB] Belated report - but at least a fishing report.

[Alan Di Somma]

Nice report. We are going to expect more of these in the coming months. 


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On May 27, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> I actually went fishing Friday afternoon.  A friend and I went to a 
> (nameless) lake about an hour South of here and caught a bunch of HUGE 
> bluegills.  Not only were they big, they were wide.  Everything was caught on 
> top-water...rubber spiders, gurglers, and a local foam creation, the 
> Harford Housefly:
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> Harford House Fly Side view:
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> Harford House Fly Top View:
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> It's a little bedraggled - missing legs, punctured foam.  Obviously a cripple.
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> We were fishing in a little 'plastic bass boat', which got beaten all over 
> the place by the wind.  The lake is filling rapidly with lily pads, but we 
> were able to cast into open areas, then drag out the big gills covered with 
> tons of lily pads.  We were both fishing 2X leader, so we only had 3 or 4 
> break off in the pads.
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> Not all the gills were huge - I caught the most aggressive one of the day- a 
> 2-3" bluegill that swallowed the fly above.
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> All in all a fun afternoon.
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