Re: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?

2010-05-12 Thread Alan Di Somma
Thanks Bill.

I will try to find some one that already does tanning.
I am not going to try to do it myself.
Just looks too time consuming and expensive.


Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

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You take your dog for a walk and you both use the same tree.

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  rty this site for any info you may need they have everything you would need 
for fish or animals

  http://www.vandykestaxidermy.com/category/chemicals-and-tanning
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Alan,

Any taxidermy shop can help you through the multi-step process, but an 
overview for tannning that will give you a soft leather hide like you find in 
shops is on Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanning

It is involved, and when I wanted hides tanned, I brought them into a 
tannery and he added them to his batches for a minimal fee.  My suggestion, if 
you don't actually want to learn it yourself.  If you do, there's different 
methods depending on the results you want.

I would love to know how Wapsi gets their hides done.  The leather is 
awesome and the hair is never brittle.

Hope this helps.
DonO
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  From: Alan Di Somma 
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  Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:41 PM
  Subject: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?


  I have a nice piece of elk rump. 
  I want to remove all the fat and what ever else is there but I want the 
hyde to be pliable.
  I have dried other pieces of hyde with borax and salt, but it was always 
very hard and stiff.
  When you buy a piece of deer fur the hyde is usually very flexible.
  Can any one tell me what kind of chemicals are used ?

  Thank you,
  Alan Di Somma 

  You know your a redneck when:

  You can entertain yourself for more than 15 minutes with a fly swatter.

  http://www.azflyfishing.net/

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Re: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?

2010-05-12 Thread Alan Di Somma
Looks like I will try to find some one here that will tan the hyde for me.
It is way too complicated and takes a long time to do it , to say nothing about 
the cost of the chemicals.

I have done the salt and borax and that just makes the hyde very stiff and 
brittle.

Thanks for the info 


Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

You know your a redneck when:

You take your dog for a walk and you both use the same tree.

http://www.azflyfishing.net/
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  From: Don Ordes 
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  Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?


  Alan,

  Any taxidermy shop can help you through the multi-step process, but an 
overview for tannning that will give you a soft leather hide like you find in 
shops is on Wiki:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanning

  It is involved, and when I wanted hides tanned, I brought them into a tannery 
and he added them to his batches for a minimal fee.  My suggestion, if you 
don't actually want to learn it yourself.  If you do, there's different methods 
depending on the results you want.

  I would love to know how Wapsi gets their hides done.  The leather is awesome 
and the hair is never brittle.

  Hope this helps.
  DonO
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From: Alan Di Somma 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:41 PM
Subject: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?


I have a nice piece of elk rump. 
I want to remove all the fat and what ever else is there but I want the 
hyde to be pliable.
I have dried other pieces of hyde with borax and salt, but it was always 
very hard and stiff.
When you buy a piece of deer fur the hyde is usually very flexible.
Can any one tell me what kind of chemicals are used ?

Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

You know your a redneck when:

You can entertain yourself for more than 15 minutes with a fly swatter.

http://www.azflyfishing.net/

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Re: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?

2010-05-11 Thread Bill
rty this site for any info you may need they have everything you would need for 
fish or animals

http://www.vandykestaxidermy.com/category/chemicals-and-tanning
  - Original Message - 
  From: Don Ordes 
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  Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?


  Alan,

  Any taxidermy shop can help you through the multi-step process, but an 
overview for tannning that will give you a soft leather hide like you find in 
shops is on Wiki:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanning

  It is involved, and when I wanted hides tanned, I brought them into a tannery 
and he added them to his batches for a minimal fee.  My suggestion, if you 
don't actually want to learn it yourself.  If you do, there's different methods 
depending on the results you want.

  I would love to know how Wapsi gets their hides done.  The leather is awesome 
and the hair is never brittle.

  Hope this helps.
  DonO
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From: Alan Di Somma 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:41 PM
Subject: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?


I have a nice piece of elk rump. 
I want to remove all the fat and what ever else is there but I want the 
hyde to be pliable.
I have dried other pieces of hyde with borax and salt, but it was always 
very hard and stiff.
When you buy a piece of deer fur the hyde is usually very flexible.
Can any one tell me what kind of chemicals are used ?

Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

You know your a redneck when:

You can entertain yourself for more than 15 minutes with a fly swatter.

http://www.azflyfishing.net/

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Re: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?

2010-05-11 Thread Bill
A friend of mine used to tack a hide to plywood and cover it with Borax and 
leave it laying flat for about a month and his turned out pretty good but not 
sure if he did anything else to it or not. I do know all the flesh has got to 
be removed or it may rot I've also heard salt will work but never trying it 
myself not sure what would work best.I know you can buy some stuff from 
Vandykes that will tan a hide and it's powder form..
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  From: Don Ordes 
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  Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?


  Alan,

  Any taxidermy shop can help you through the multi-step process, but an 
overview for tannning that will give you a soft leather hide like you find in 
shops is on Wiki:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanning

  It is involved, and when I wanted hides tanned, I brought them into a tannery 
and he added them to his batches for a minimal fee.  My suggestion, if you 
don't actually want to learn it yourself.  If you do, there's different methods 
depending on the results you want.

  I would love to know how Wapsi gets their hides done.  The leather is awesome 
and the hair is never brittle.

  Hope this helps.
  DonO
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From: Alan Di Somma 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:41 PM
    Subject: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?


I have a nice piece of elk rump. 
I want to remove all the fat and what ever else is there but I want the 
hyde to be pliable.
I have dried other pieces of hyde with borax and salt, but it was always 
very hard and stiff.
When you buy a piece of deer fur the hyde is usually very flexible.
Can any one tell me what kind of chemicals are used ?

Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

You know your a redneck when:

You can entertain yourself for more than 15 minutes with a fly swatter.

http://www.azflyfishing.net/

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Re: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?

2010-05-11 Thread Don Ordes
Alan,

Any taxidermy shop can help you through the multi-step process, but an overview 
for tannning that will give you a soft leather hide like you find in shops is 
on Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanning

It is involved, and when I wanted hides tanned, I brought them into a tannery 
and he added them to his batches for a minimal fee.  My suggestion, if you 
don't actually want to learn it yourself.  If you do, there's different methods 
depending on the results you want.

I would love to know how Wapsi gets their hides done.  The leather is awesome 
and the hair is never brittle.

Hope this helps.
DonO
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  From: Alan Di Somma 
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  Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:41 PM
  Subject: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?


  I have a nice piece of elk rump. 
  I want to remove all the fat and what ever else is there but I want the hyde 
to be pliable.
  I have dried other pieces of hyde with borax and salt, but it was always very 
hard and stiff.
  When you buy a piece of deer fur the hyde is usually very flexible.
  Can any one tell me what kind of chemicals are used ?

  Thank you,
  Alan Di Somma 

  You know your a redneck when:

  You can entertain yourself for more than 15 minutes with a fly swatter.

  http://www.azflyfishing.net/

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[VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?

2010-05-11 Thread Alan Di Somma
I have a nice piece of elk rump. 
I want to remove all the fat and what ever else is there but I want the hyde to 
be pliable.
I have dried other pieces of hyde with borax and salt, but it was always very 
hard and stiff.
When you buy a piece of deer fur the hyde is usually very flexible.
Can any one tell me what kind of chemicals are used ?

Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

You know your a redneck when:

You can entertain yourself for more than 15 minutes with a fly swatter.

http://www.azflyfishing.net/

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