[VFB] Re: Active Nymphing was QUOTE FOR THE DAY

2009-02-16 Thread Anthony Spezio
Tom and you are men after me own heart. I did not have anyone to teach me but I 
found out that doing it this way had been real effective for me. That drift 
with some twitching has taken a lot of fish when others had a hard time 
catching fish. That lift at the end of the swing is deadly. I would say I 
catch about 90% of my fish there when nymping or using buggers.
I am self taught and have never had the desire to use bobbers. I know I am 
stepping on some toes but to me worms and bobbers go together.. LOL
Tom, any time you can come by, you are welcome, we will miss you at the Sowbug.
Tony

--- On Mon, 2/16/09, George k...@msn.com wrote:
From: George k...@msn.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Active Nymphing was QUOTE FOR THE DAY
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Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 10:55 AM



 
Absolutely Tom, I couldn't agree more with your observations. When I 
started nymphing without a strike indicator, my catch rate increased. I have 
used the same technique and have also caught fish at all stages of the 
presentation. 
 
The fly is only part of the technique, the rest is presentation, 
presentation, presentation.
 
Keeping the fly in the water is very important, even fishing out a bad 
cast can produce a catch. I can usually spot a novice by watching the number of 
false casts. The fly in the water is what catches the fish, the fly in the air 
doesn't.
 
George Vincent



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FOR THE DAY


I learned to fly fish about 15 years ago when a friend helped me get 
rigged up and taught me how to cast and fish.  He was a nymph fisherman 
(anyone who fishes the Weber River where I fish most often is) and he taught me 
to dead drift the fly behind a strike indicator.   Later I talked to 
another friend who had been a fly tyer and fly fisher for years, and asked him 
if he used a strike indicator and the dead drift.  He said no, he always 
used a shorter line and followed it as it drifted through the deep holes. 
 So I tried his technique and started catching more fish.  Several 
years later I  realized what I was doing is called High Sticking and it 
is still my preferred method to dig a bunch of fish out of a deep hole.  It 
always includes a lift at the end, and often I strip it back, and have caught 
fish both ways.  Also with a nymph and a swing, especially when there are 
caddis hatching.  


While the basic idea of the dead drift is sound, but I don't think it is 
as important as some people think.  Sometimes adding a little motion to the 
fly is exactly what the fish need to strike.  If I am fishing a long, deep 
run, I will often combine them all... Maybe cast into a back eddy, let the fly 
sink then strip it into the main current, let it dead drift until it comes 
close 
to me, then lift the line and high stick through the water next to me, with a 
swing on the end, followed by stripping the line back.   I have caught fish 
at all stages of the presentation of the fly.


I think we spend too much time wondering what a fly represents . 
 Most often, it is just something that looks like food to the fish, and 
movement can be a trigger. 


Perhaps the most important thing is just keeping the fly in the water, and 
close to the bottom.


Tom


P.S.  By the way, I am officially back.  My strength, energy, 
appetite, are all normal.  I am also making progress with the other two 
side effects  of the surgery.  Life is good.  The only downside 
is that my intention to attend Sowbug this year has been derailed by $3000.00 
in 
medical expenses (since I was in the hospital in December and January, it get 
to 
pay for two years worth of deductibles).


I was really looking forward to seeing Tony again,  but my son is a 
trucker, and if he has a run this summer that comes within 200 miles of 
Flippin, 
I'll be there to visit (I'll call first).


   


On Feb 14, 2009, at 6:21 AM, Anthony Spezio wrote:


  


  This called the Miracle Inch. I use it a lot and get 
some violent strikes. At first I would get a lot of break offs till I 
learned to keep the line loose in my line hand. I would twitch the 
nymph on the drift let it swing and hold it there for a short. Then 
work 
it back up stream like a wounded minnow.
Tony

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2/13/09, KP kpt...@btinternet.com 
wrote:

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  KP kpt...@btinternet.com
Subject: 
  [VFB] Re: Active Nymphing was QUOTE FOR THE 
  DAY
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  Friday, February 13, 2009, 5:01 PM

I love upstream dry fly fishng and in the winter I fish my nymphs this
way too. A friend of mine just came back from a course here in the
 UK
and they were shown how the masters of short line nymphing do the job.
Your books ref to the stripping the nymph

[VFB] Re: Active Nymphing was QUOTE FOR THE DAY

2009-02-12 Thread DonO

Mike,

Some species of nymphs are swimmers, some are clingers, some are burrowers.
If he is short-stripping a nymph (but not darting), he is probably
imitiating a swimmer variety.  Dead-drifting works for imitating clingers,
and also burrowers that get washed up out of the dirt.  All they can do is
drift downstream until they hit something they can cling on to, or end up in
an eddy (or a gut).

Depending on the fish and other circumstances, one way may work and the
others won't.  One thing that does work for me is the lifting technique,
imitating a nymph that is rising to the surface.  Whatever way I drift the
nymph, at the end of the cast I make a slow deliberate lift to the surface,
pausing before I pull the nymph from the water, especially if it ends up in
slack water.

Like you, my most productive nymphing is dead-drifting with a strike
indicator down the seams in the river, where the still or slow water meets
the fast water.  Next I'll choose area in front of obstructions and then
directly behind.  If that doesn't work, I'll look for deep pockets and
eddies.  I have rig-ups and lines for all types of approaches and
nymph-sinking methods.  In the N. Platte R., that puppy's got to be bouncing
along the bottom- seems to trigger the takes.

But all of this happens only if the dry-fly fishing is unproductive or if
it's just too windy for dries.

D




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 I am reading a book called Active Nymphing: Aggressive Strategies for
 Casting, Rigging, And Moving the Nymphs  By Rich Osthoff.  In the
 book he talks of moving the nymph, not just like streamer fishing but
 casting upstream and stripping the nymph (not streamer).  I am a dead
 drifter almost all of the time and this is new to me.  Anyone do this
 and can you shed some perspective on this?

 Mike

 


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[VFB] Re: Active Nymphing was QUOTE FOR THE DAY

2009-02-12 Thread J Balmer

I do a lot of nymphing in tailwaters. I generally cast upstream  work my
way down stream until I find a pattern that works, especially when the water
is high. Sometimes I swim it, sometimes I'll do a drift  lift, but what
works in those waters quite often when the water is moving is casting across
stream  stripping on the swing.

J  

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Subject: [VFB] Active Nymphing was QUOTE FOR THE DAY


I am reading a book called Active Nymphing: Aggressive Strategies for
Casting, Rigging, And Moving the Nymphs  By Rich Osthoff.  In the book he
talks of moving the nymph, not just like streamer fishing but casting
upstream and stripping the nymph (not streamer).  I am a dead drifter almost
all of the time and this is new to me.  Anyone do this and can you shed some
perspective on this?

Mike




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